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Carver
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:02 am 
 

oneyoudontknow wrote:
Shouldn't this be another entry at the MA?
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=30135

It was released as Steppenwolf; I have the tape in front of me.
After this release they changed their name to Megalith


Yes go on add it

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MMisantropo
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:22 am 
 

You mean Stonehenge, right? No one could be retarded enough to name his name Steppenwolf.

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Reaper43
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:46 am 
 

Reaper43 wrote:
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Here's the link to the second album by Society's Finest. If this isn't metal enough by the M-A standards then the band has no other chance. The album is basically Death/Metalcore with some elements of Groove.

New page and it's been awhile so I'll repost. Opinions?

Thanks in advance.
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PiotrB
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 4:10 pm 
 

http://www.myspace.com/thesovran ?
on one side they are describe as Heavy'n'roll

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 4:19 pm 
 

Piotr_Bojka wrote:
http://www.myspace.com/thesovran ?
on one side they are describe as Heavy'n'roll

Sounds like Turbonegro, so no.

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:27 am 
 

http://download.yousendit.com/41DF53EB33003DF0
it is a cover scan of this release:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=22851

Can someone familiar with Spanish add the necessary information?
(line-up, where recorded etc.)

According to the scan the release is an EP, should it be changed to this?

edit: updated the cover.
edit2: the rip of the demo us completed; about 19 minutes of music.
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http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=22498
Why is the band listed as one and not two. There has been a slightly change in the name after the 2000 release; from Testimony to Tesstimony.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 2:32 pm 
 

oneyoudontknow wrote:
http://download.yousendit.com/41DF53EB33003DF0
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http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=22498
Why is the band listed as one and not two. There has been a slightly change in the name after the 2000 release; from Testimony to Tesstimony.


Spelling change only.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 2:51 pm 
 

Whoever reports anonymously Mike Inez to be listed in No More Tears line-up, forget it. All the bass tracks were played by Bob Daisley, Mike only appeared in the videos and went on tour for the album with Ozzy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_More_Tears

http://www.bobdaisley.com/recordings.htm

Although Mike Inez is seen playing bass in several of the album's videos, long-time Ozzy bassist Bob Daisley plays on the entire album. Though Inez was an official member of the band, the Osbournes had a longstanding working relationship with Daisley and had also asked him to write lyrics, as he did for all of Ozzy's '80s releases. While his bass playing remains on the album, Daisley's lyrics were not used. Inez is credited as a writer for the title track, yet does not perform on the song either.

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/archive/i ... 13448.html

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:20 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
oneyoudontknow wrote:
http://download.yousendit.com/41DF53EB33003DF0
i
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http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=22498
Why is the band listed as one and not two. There has been a slightly change in the name after the 2000 release; from Testimony to Tesstimony.


Spelling change only.

OK...
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DeathForBlitzkrieg
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:26 am 
 

I've just submitted a band, but I wasn't able to add the logo, a band picture and the cover of the release. Normal?
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GVOLTT
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:38 am 
 

DeathForBlitzkrieg wrote:
I've just submitted a band, but I wasn't able to add the logo, a band picture and the cover of the release. Normal?

Image uploads are disabled for the time being. Read the announcement concerning the downtime on the frontpage.
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DeathForBlitzkrieg
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:44 am 
 

GVOLTT wrote:
DeathForBlitzkrieg wrote:
I've just submitted a band, but I wasn't able to add the logo, a band picture and the cover of the release. Normal?

Image uploads are disabled for the time being. Read the announcement concerning the downtime on the frontpage.


Oh, damn, I read it, but not carefully enough, it seems. Thanks.
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Carver
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:41 am 
 

A music video is a valid release for the addition of a band?

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Mieresch
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:51 am 
 

Carver wrote:
A music video is a valid release for the addition of a band?

I think only if it's on a video tape or DVD.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:32 am 
 

dust666 wrote:
Carver wrote:
A music video is a valid release for the addition of a band?

I think only if it's on a video tape or DVD.

Correct.

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Carver
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:31 am 
 

Sorry for asking about that the genre of this band can be described as Traditional Heavy/Gothic/Hard Rock?

http://www.myspace.com/resoluterock

Is this acceptable for a MA submission (review from http://www.thecorroseum.com)

Band: cartago (swe)

Barely worth mentioning, and only so thanx to a rather upbeat B-side sounding somewhat like RISING FORCE or SILVER MOUNTAIN - you know, the typical "talented melodic metal"-crap. OK, it's not crap, it's better than a lot of the commercial tripe I've had to wade through when researching for this list, but compared to the excellent, mid-80's demo track I got off some radio show it's pretty superfluous. Their debut 7" from 10 years earlier is awful poppy rock/HR and should be avoided at all costs.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 1:35 pm 
 

Carver wrote:
Sorry for asking about that the genre of this band can be described as Traditional Heavy/Gothic/Hard Rock?

http://www.myspace.com/resoluterock

Is this acceptable for a MA submission (review from http://www.thecorroseum.com)

Band: cartago (swe)

Barely worth mentioning, and only so thanx to a rather upbeat B-side sounding somewhat like RISING FORCE or SILVER MOUNTAIN - you know, the typical "talented melodic metal"-crap. OK, it's not crap, it's better than a lot of the commercial tripe I've had to wade through when researching for this list, but compared to the excellent, mid-80's demo track I got off some radio show it's pretty superfluous. Their debut 7" from 10 years earlier is awful poppy rock/HR and should be avoided at all costs.


As for Resolute, only the song Monster is real metal, the rest is grungy hard rock like Skunk Anansie, so I would not submit them.

As for the second band, it would be preferable to hear the single first or to see more reviews. He says he included them only for the second song on it.

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Carver
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:24 pm 
 

well the band released 2 single 1 in 1980 a non metal single and one in 1990 considered metal

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ralfman
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:06 am 
 

It´s just me or what...?

Can´t upload pictures or logos...

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:16 am 
 

ralfman wrote:
It´s just me or what...?

Can´t upload pictures or logos...

In case you have not noticed yet, the site is still far from being stable and is steadily modificated in order to solve the appearing problems. All users should consider, if they will make a submission now when itmost likely will appear incomplete or wait for fully functional site. Read the messages on the main page, please.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:19 pm 
 

Please, DO NOT report Olaf Hayer as a Nemesis (Cze) member, he is a member of the new incarnation of the band - Symphonity.
The Symphonity page will be established, when they will release their debut album in March. Quite simple, yet there are still problems with name changes.

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PiotrB
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:01 pm 
 

http://www.myspace.com/davidmalinich ?

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:11 am 
 

Piotr_Bojka wrote:
http://www.myspace.com/davidmalinich ?

Yes, this is metal.

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PiotrB
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:31 pm 
 

http://cdbaby.com/cd/curare what about this?

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Carver
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:33 pm 
 

Hello, I have 3 things 2 say.

1. About the online release, a band releasing an online release exp mp3 demo on myspace or mp3 demo on their official website, if you contact the band they will for sure burn you a cd-r with these demos. As I see such bands are getting accepted here so I dont see why rejecting others since other band will do the same if you contact them. There is no such thing as "online release" in those cases.

2. Since a side-project is a parallel project for the member (as Witcher said) I dont see why the band 20.SV is not accepted here?

3. Finding bands for submission is too easy while writing a review is harder and takes more time. Why giving 10 poins for submiing a band + 5 for each album and so on while giving a max of 5? points for a review.


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PiotrB
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:44 pm 
 

Carver wrote:
3. Finding bands for submission is too easy while writing a review is harder and takes more time. Why giving 10 poins for submiing a band + 5 for each album and so on while giving a max of 5? points for a review.


IMO band submission is more important then review

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:05 pm 
 

Carver wrote:
Hello, I have 3 things 2 say.

1. About the online release, a band releasing an online release exp mp3 demo on myspace or mp3 demo on their official website, if you contact the band they will for sure burn you a cd-r with these demos. As I see such bands are getting accepted here so I dont see why rejecting others since other band will do the same if you contact them. There is no such thing as "online release" in those cases.

2. Since a side-project is a parallel project for the member (as Witcher said) I dont see why the band 20.SV is not accepted here?

3. Finding bands for submission is too easy while writing a review is harder and takes more time. Why giving 10 poins for submiing a band + 5 for each album and so on while giving a max of 5? points for a review.



Now really, every myspace band could claim, that you can burn out a cd with their songs: The rule was implemented to revent exactly such cases.
In which cases would there be an online release ?? Then every band with an mp3 or two on myspace could claim having a demo out. Please do not ask about it again. Regardless of that, all this was discussed two weeks ago in detail.
"First, the band must have at least released SOME material. If you don't even have a demo... forget it. The band might have been formed, even got a logo, but how will we know that they won't just disband before even recording any song? An mp3 or two on MySpace or mp3.com-like websites is not enough. The band must have a demo out - this is the minimum. If you want to add your band, and you *know* you will release something soon, simply wait until it's released before submitting it!"

If you want it straight, you are expected to follow such fundamental rules, not to constantly question them.



2. I do not know the band, but it must have a release on a label with worldwide distribution. And according to the rules, it can be always vetoed when it would look out of place here - a vague rule, but the whole side project rule is problematic. You shoould stick with bands, that are reasonably metal only.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... d=87849516

I have seldom heard something as unmetal as this. Furthermore he does not seem to be a member of any reasonably metal band along besides this. He only remixed Stalaggh songs - another unmetal band whose inclusion here was most probably a m istake.
Furthermore Autumn Winds are a small indie underground label.

3. Really excellent, detailed reviews could be perhaps rewared ten points, but the archives are a metal band database first and foremost and reviews are only complementary.


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Carver
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:21 pm 
 

I know about the "online release rule" and I accept it what I want to know is why such bands are sill getting accepted here there is many bands under this case they have an online demo for example a 6 song demo and they claim that the demo is available as a CD-R (they will burn you the songs on a cd-r) I have seen many such bands here for example most of the Iranian bands (thats only an example i have seen bands from US doing the same) release only mp3 demoswich are turned o cd-r releases and so on did you get what I mean?

http://www.myspace.com/20sv label: Autumn Wind Productions & Cthulhic Dawn although available through many worldwide distributions

On Full Moon Prd: http://www.fmp666.com/mm5/merchant.mvc? ... ory_Code=0

The member is in Kafan on Full Moon Productions
and Veinen (Lbn) Todestrieb Records and many other distributions
both bands are metal

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:29 pm 
 

Carver wrote:
I know about the "online release rule" and I accept it what I want to know is why such bands are sill getting accepted here there is many bands under this case they have an online demo for example a 6 song demo and they claim that the demo is available as a CD-R (they will burn you the songs on a cd-r) I have seen many such bands here for example most of the Iranian bands (thats only an example i have seen bands from US doing the same) release only mp3 demoswich are turned o cd-r releases and so on did you get what I mean?

http://www.myspace.com/20sv label: Autumn Wind Productions & Cthulhic Dawn although available through many worldwide distributions


20 sv - yes, but-
The music is non-metal crap - my ears hurt!!
I will veto any attempt to get something like this listed in here, just out of principle.
The label must have its own distribution worldwide - like Nuclear Blast, Roadrunner, Earache, Metal Blade etc. This is not a case wih online shops and distros, they carry stuf released by other labels.
As for Iranian bands, they are a chapter for themselves. I usually demand a link to distro or a picture of Cd from them, but it still does not seem to be enough.

It is possible, that Emerna and the related project do not have any releases at all, as suggested by Iranian users here in forum...

As for U.S. bands, if it is submitted by established user like Piotr Bojka, who actually contacts the bands, I will accept it, since he confirms the officiality of the demos. You can try to do the same.
Case closed.

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Carver
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:40 pm 
 

Ok man dont worry I just wanted you to be more strict with the bands form Islamic/Arabic countries since the majority of them can't manage o release a physical album in their country well I can try to make you a list with those band (they have a demo,album... as mp3 the physical release may exist under a burned cd-r of the mp3 traks)

I will give you an example:

Damaar - Triumph Through Spears of Sacrilege this demo was self-released as an mp3 demo in 2006 physical copies was a burned cd-r of those mp3 circulaing between ppl (anyone who has the mp3's can burn them into a cd, the cd-rs are not particulary burned by the band) band was submitted by Molochengott on April 1st, 2006 based on that demo, THEN in December 5th, 2007 he demo was released as a physical release by Nuclear War Now! Productions after band members traveled 2 australia. What I want to say there is many such releases in MA (still as mp3 and not released in the same way as Triumph Through Spears of Sacrilege) would such band stay on MA or I may try to make a list of them?

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:47 pm 
 

Carver wrote:
Ok man dont worry I just wanted you to be more strict with the bands form Islamic/Arabic countries since the majority of them can't manage o release a physical album in their country well I can try to make you a list with those band (they have a demo,album... as mp3 the physical release may exist under a burned cd-r of the mp3 traks)

I will give you an example:

Damaar - Triumph Through Spears of Sacrilege this demo was self-released as an mp3 demo in 2006 physical copies was a burned cd-r of those mp3 circulaing between ppl (anyone who has the mp3's can burn them into a cd, the cd-rs are not particulary burned by the band) band was submitted by Molochengott on April 1st, 2006 based on that demo, THEN in December 5th, 2007 he demo was released as a physical release by Nuclear War Now! Productions after band members traveled 2 australia. What I want to say there is many such releases in MA (still as mp3 and not released in the same way as Triumph Through Spears of Sacrilege) would such band stay on MA or I may try to make a list of them?


If you are absolutely sure, you can report them in the appropriate thread, but not 100 or so at one time.

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Carver
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:52 pm 
 

Ok I will try to do that excluding the Iranian bands since the majority need to the removed those releases listed may exist but not sold I will leave the Iranian case and you judge the bands I will post there.

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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:23 pm 
 

http://www.myspace.com/balmung28 ?

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:24 pm 
 

molk15 wrote:
http://www.myspace.com/balmung28 ?


rac with a bit of thrashy riffs in the first song. The following songs have litlle to zero metal influences.

No death metal to be found there.

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PiotrB
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:36 pm 
 

Piotr_Bojka wrote:
http://cdbaby.com/cd/curare what about this?

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Catastrophic
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:19 am 
 

Is this Death Metal enough??

http://www.purevolume.com/dannytanner

Or just plain Grindcore?? Sounds like Death\Grind to me.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:46 am 
 

Piotr_Bojka wrote:
Piotr_Bojka wrote:
http://cdbaby.com/cd/curare what about this?


Tribal sound like Soulfly etc...

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:48 am 
 

Catastrophic wrote:
Is this Death Metal enough??

http://www.purevolume.com/dannytanner

Or just plain Grindcore?? Sounds like Death\Grind to me.

It is metal, but to all again, donot ask about random bands, just submit them and wait.

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Carver
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:07 am 
 

Hello, is this mallcore http://www.myspace.com/lessthansacred ?

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:39 am 
 

Carver wrote:
Hello, is this mallcore http://www.myspace.com/lessthansacred ?

Not entirely, but too much of an alternative influence, at least in the first sample song.

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