Let's start this one.I want to see why one or another person is hated here or submit bands with many doubts(And they are still are accepted).

Personally I hate these kids:

Lord_Sauron(Minimum info and all that crap)

Reaper43 (Almost every band comes from MySpace, just mentioning-They released Demo in 199... 200... Blah,Blah,Blah)

I control Reaper's submissions and he almost always mentions where to find the ordering info for the demo or the contact for a band member who hands it out in physical form. He knows very well what is needed in such case, I have explained it to him even on this forum long time ago. Only in a few cases in this month were his bands totally unacceptable. He can explain himself here, it is in his own interest, if you demand it so strongly.
I of course delete the additional info, or should I leave info like "look into the blog post from Mid-July, the guitarist offers the demo for two dollars there" on the band's listing here?

As for the other user - the bands, whose info can be found also elsewhere, I will accept, the others not. I cannot teach all the users here to not rely only on downloads and to check out also some webzines, fanzines or reviews to validate the info. They should be reasonable enough to do that.
I personaly have a huge collection of real Cds and tapes and a lot of old Czech fanzines and german metal magazines. It is sad, that the teenagers from today even do not recognize the logo of their favourite death metal band, but what can you do ? To start a "School of Rock" for them??

Seriously, I am starting to have enough- when I reject a russian band with a minimun info, it is a terrible injustice, because they are an established local band. On the other hand, when I choose to accept a myspace page band with explicit info about a demo there, it is wrong too. The rules are not speaking about rejecting everything myspace, may I remind you?

I hate you all

There was also this band from Argentina submitted again, whose first record/demo was Black Metal, but nowhere on the net it can be found. I have seen it several times this submission several times.
Your comment regarding to the knowledge of juveniles towards old metal bands is too true. You just have to look at the reviews that are submitted now and then, to get a glimpse on the musical background they possess.
If you feel uncomfortable with a band, why don't you reject the submission. As long as the users do not offer a good amount of information it is just a waste of time and energy for you to collect it.

Yes, you are right about minimal info, but bands that I submit are mostly totally forgoten, they never had a web-site, MySpace or some other shit. Also those bands were NEVER reviewed or even mentioned in some magazine or web-site(ex: Enola Gay(Hrv)), I found all of them on some metal history sites, or blogs for underground music. Only way to know more about those bands is to contact them, what is almost impossible.

If you think that I only download albums, you are wrong. I buy every real CD or tape which I download(exept really bad ones and really rare ones). I cannot check informations about those bands in fanzines becouse they(informations) don't exist. And, I know logo from every band in my collection and for every famous metal band, and I play in melodic death metal band, so I am well informed about other undergroud croatian metal bands, and I know many guys playing in bands which are on M.A.

I thought it was kind of weird that you didn't add the Raw Power album to your submission, even though the page you linked to had cover and complete tracklist. Don't be so lazy.

I submited enought albums and bands today.

Only two short remarks. Every non-metal bands you submit takes a large portion of my time, we are all volunteers here, you should think about that when you will submit five aor/hard rock/seventies rock bands daily That you submit also valid bands does not make it less tiresome. Our job is not to find the info about submited bands, but to validate the the info and metalness of bands submitted by users. Therefore the submissions should be as precise and as informative as possible, the same goes also for song samples.

Second, the thing with logo was actual, real incident here in forum, when a user was surprised to see an album cover of his favourite band for the first time. It was mentioned, because it illustrates the situation here in forum and in the submission queue.

Edit: recent submission by better unknown user, no demo, but the following on band's myspace:

About The Joseph Bailey Experience
The Joseph Bailey Experience is the result of one man striving for greatness. While stumbling through the dense woodlands of Hampshire one winters eve, Joe witnessed two strapping young men pointing their erect swords towards the frostbitten moon. Those men were Edward Bailey and Matthew Turner. He knew instantly that they were the ones to bring his project to life.


(It should be mentioned, that they list Spinal Tap as theit influence, which explains a lot.)

Piss off..... seriously.

As Witcher explained I submit bands with the needed proof, he just removes it as not to clutter up the additional notes as it really isn't necessary. I'm sorry i can't get a specific track listing it often isn't available. I don't see why such a trivial aspect should keep a band from the archives especially if I've proven the releases existence.

What's your issue with me, why not just work on your own submissions and leave me to mine.

Also, it is it really necessary to start a thread about this it would generally fit into the point whoring thread if you have a problem with someones
submissions or work. Cry me a river.

As for the cases Witcher was referring to in which bands i submitted where unacceptable I figure he means the band whose demo was only released online (I missed the blog that stated this, I was going by info on their main page, if I had seen it I wouldn't have bothered as it's a waste of my time), and two hybrid bands that contained too much punk in one case and varied between grind and metal in the other. I didn't think of at the time but I would have posted in the band submissions page before hand as I wasn't overly confident of either. I think their was one other band with metal openings but modern hardcore mid-sections to their song that was also rejected, this was a hasty submission and I'll admit that I made a mistake by not listening thoroughly enough. Beyond that I can't think of any other recent rejections, but I really don't think 4 is all that bad for 50 submissions since the beginning of just September.

Edit: I think alot of people seem to forget that even though some submissions are minimal this site does allow other users to edit the info, if something's missing find it and add it, if you can't find it shut up.

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*distributes free Kleenex*

Lock this useless thread now, you're all so pathetic