I was roaming MA. And I found something that it just does not make any sence. There is a Christian Black Metal band (that is signed to Bombworks Records, a Christian label) named Azmaveth whose mainman (Ancient Prophet) plays in Velyal and Godless, both bands have themes about Satanism and Anti-religion. Both Godless and Azmaveth are active and that member plays currently in both bands. How can this be explained???

Multiple Personality Disorder?

Suggestion, complaint or just another shitty thread?

That's right, hypocrisy isn't unheard of in the Christian circles, whowouldathunkit?

Look at this, this is even stranger:

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=87590

Why are you asking us?? Ask the band members, we do not control their behaviour.

Velyal are not active for years, so the reason can be same as for Ron Rinehart - he became brainwashed christian. Some people are also strange and do not know what they want in life. Why is someone using a corpsepaint as a christian, for example??

Or they are schizophrenic and have multiple personalities - also a possibility.

Or check out Horrific Majesty:
http://www.myspace.com/horrificmajesty
Black Fucking Chaos Metal - self-defined
Influences Nightmares,depression,hate.
To which scene they actually belong??
Their lyrics were never particularly religious and rather dark without hope to begin with.

Offerblod:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=91357
Sönderknullad mean Fucked into pieces
Which christian value does he want to demonstrate with that?

Wrathful Plague:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... d=41218563
Wrathful Plague is NOT a religious band and ideologies contained within the lyrics are solely those of Nostaun.
Check out Wavy's bands and label.


The world is a sad and fascinating place.

Nostaun is a Christian but Wrathful Plague is not a religious plague. I talk to Nostaun via Last.fm


Velyal may not be active but Godless are. Ancient Prophet is currently on both bands. And that's weird.

The Satanic Slaughter case is even more weird but in that case he is just a teenager. Ancient Prophet is not a kid and he still hasn't decided if he is a Satanist or a Christian.

Yes, it is weird, but what more to say about it? Only he personally could explain this rather strange behaviour.

Both Wavy and Nostaun are christians beside Gud Er Sannhet Records is a christian label

Some christian labels are releasing some not so christian bands-Eluveitie, so that alone does not mean so much, at least today.

For some it could be only a pose or they are trying to be different, so that people check them out just because of curiosity- now generally speaking about all such bands.

The Offerblod -Sönderknullad, Death By The Scythe or Azmaveth cases are much stranger.

Living Sacrifice=Ripped To Shreds

I was surfing the web and I came across this little forum topic…and I thought I would just take a moment to set a few things straight.

First, E.E.E. Records/Distro is not solely a “Christian/unblack” label. Several bands involved with EEE are not religious bands (example, Velnias, Whispers from a Dead World, etc).

Secondly, both I and my project Wrathful Plague are not Christian…and I am simply annoyed when I see pathetic genre terms like “unblack, white metal etc” used to describe my music. I will not deny that WP’s first album “the frostbitten path” did contain Judeo-Christian elements, but this was only because (I was in a sense) immature and naïve at the time and in turn, I allowed outside influences (friends, family, fellow metalheads and my brainwashed youth) to influence my work. These outside influences also curbed my artistic license (for this blackened trash art). Thus the reason why a lot of the tracks on that first album are, in my opinion, insuperior compared to my latest creation (Bitter Forest Winds).
For this new album I ensured that a number of “elements “ (as you could call them), were in place when I composed and recorded each lick. For example, most if not all, of the lyrics were composed in solitude via candlelight, then promptly burned after I finished recording. (Therefore none of the lyrics from BFW’s can.... or ever will be released or re-printed). Secondly all of the vocals were recorded on a simple cassette outdoors in the woods during subfreezing weather, which created the cold, nightmarish vibe I was searching for. And most of all, every note and tremolo riff was composed during moments of time when I felt that the true spirit of misanthropy was flowing (unadulterated) through my veins.

On another note.....many people hear the demo track “Pissing on Satan” off TFBP and instantly categorize that song as another cheesy “Horde or Striperish” Christian bashing Satan battle cry. When in fact the real meaning behind that song involves my disgust for the hypocrisy of “Satanism” and it's correlation with black metal. Most if not all true BM patrons declare a strong seeded hatred for anything and everything relating to Judeo-Christian ideologies (this is obvious). The reason is primarily rooted in the history of how these Christian lies/corruption were forced down the throats of our northern European ancestors. Yet, the black metal community chooses to use a character from Judeo-Christian mythology as their chief avatar? This utter bullshit is what pisses me most whenever I hear a black metal hymn praising Satan, the anti-christ…etc. The whole root of this can be traced to black metalers desire to simply “shock” the outside world with their music instead of simply keeping this black art underground, amongst themselves and most of all unknown to “outsiders”. “Hail Satan, 666 and inverted crosses” draw more attention and fear verses simply saying “Odin Guide our path” or wearing a pagan symbol around your neck.

So in closing....Nostaun is NOT a Nazarene worshiper....and the ideologies in WP's lyrics on BFW's and any future works will be primarily dealing with nature, Tolkien’s world and some aspects of Norse/Germanic mythology.

If anyone has any further comments or questions I will be glad to answer them when I find the time.

Oh god that's hilarious.

NostaunWP so how do you explain the presence of Wavy Svendersuhn in your band Wrathful Plague beside your presence in the band Glaciial another christian band with both Flaskavsae and W.S. 2 christian members. You will have to choose to be satanic or christian it's very funny to see someone like you trying to figure out what he really is.

Yes, Satan is a Judeo-Christian invention. In fact, not a single part of the bible is plagiarized from any other religion dominant in the middle east during the time the books of the bible was written.[/sarcasm]

Nostaun, your Judeo-Christian supremacism is quite ridiculous, you shouldn't be surprised people classify your crap as "white metal" after posts like that. As long as you promote the infallability of the bible you promote Judeo-Christian ideology, no matter how you twist it.

And did you guys notice how he said he was soooo immature and naive when he was making his first album... in 2006.

Fvking kvlt. I'm going to have to buy you're album now.

The pretension is so thick I could climb it with an icepick.

He said what he wanted, in a constructive and non-insulting way, which is more than can be said about many people here on this board or many musicians, which come to this part of the forum.

The christian band claims were removed from the band's page here some time ago, so the post serves as a clarification only.

Unlike the music, I suppose that the band members should know the best about the band's philosophy, since it is always their personal thing, how they present themselves to the world.

Some of the bands' philosophies are rather strange, indeed, but after my experience with some black metal musicians in relation to this page, hardly anything more surprises me.

By the way, it was reported by the recent distributor of Horrific Majesty, that the band is now regular black metal with no references to christianity, so I was right about the "black fucking metal" tag.

I only wonder, who else will recognize the error of their ways suddenly - Crimson Moonlight?
(Shamgar from Slechtvalk has already denied in Legacy mag., that the band was ever christian).

As for convincing others - pontential fans or people interested in their music, that they are serious about what they do, that is of course up to the respective band.

"Insuperior"? Does that mean inferior or superior, I'm confused.


Grim...


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Thank you, you made my day.

^ What she said. That was awesome.

This is why I never waste my time on forums....they almost always house morons who attempt to look "witty" by bickering and flamming everyone, everything and even each other to death....

It's quite sad...but also hilariously addicting at the same time :}

And before more flaming is spawned because I edited this comment a few times....for the record my web connection is shitty...because I dwell in the woods in an old oak tree I carved the interior out of...and I run extension cords (black and corroded for grimness) from a nearby morgue. I live off decomposing animals I find lying around the bitter forest floor. I do all this so I can constantly dwell in a pure state of misanthropy......and this winter I plan to die in a frostbitten manner similar to Valfar in order
achieve an ultimate "tr00 kvlt" status for my band project.
I also only quit believing in jesus because I kept praying to him to lower the price of petrol...because I don't make enough on WP albums to buy gas to torch all these baptist churches I'm surrounded with.... ::p:p:p:p

Although I do not agree with both Eric and Flask on certain religious viewpoints...I do respect their music...enough so to allow Eric to provide drums and ambience for my project in addition to my guest appearance on Glaciial's E.P.

And I was also unaware that someone has to choose between merely two religious ideologies (satanism or christianity) to be black metal.......

My sometimes dry sense of humor often goes over people's heads but I'm glad I was able to make your day.......because it also made my day to see that certain people took me "seriously" on those certain over-the-top cheesy/satirical elements involved in recording the album.

I was straightforward about the religious controversies sounded my little project.....but life if short....I always have to find ways to keep myself entertained.......because when I die and I'm sent to spend an eternity with Jesucifer (since I obviously don't know whether to worship jesus or satan I'll just stick with that name :s) I want to look back upon my existence with a smile and a humorous laugh......

And yes...my spelling is sometimes rancid.....but I blame that on my first grade teacher...he was a jew and spent more time calculating his savings account balance...than teaching his students how to properly spell...

N ~

Shit, did they let Varg out already?

You can't exactly blame us for that. You would be surprised at the kinds of nutcases that make their way to this very forum. Like that one guy who wanted his band to be deleted from the Archives because the bands ID number ended with a '9', thus being "incomplete".

I fucking love this guy.

HOW DARE YOU?!

HE IS TEH FVKKIN' TR00!!!

(I had a good laugh on reading THAT topic, however.)

Everybody's getting owned by everybody.

When did ..... replace commas?