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Cursarion
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 12:00 pm 
 

I guess this thread rather goes here than in the Metal Discussion. Thought about it a bit, and, well, I'm just asking, and this is kind of MA matter, not like general in metal. Sorry if this shouldn't be here.

Anyway, I just bought this record. I wonder if anyone knows how the tracklisting goes? I'm bit confused with it.

The Archives have it like this:
1. Solum Visio Perfecta Est 06:14
2. Solum Somnium Completum Est 01:55
3. Solum Haec Visio Potest Mihi Dare 04:59
4. Absolutam Commoventem Suavitatem 03:04
5. Solum Hoc Somnium Est Verum Mihi 04:59
6. Non Possum Vivere Ante 03:19
7. Meum Sommium Esse Veritatem 01:33
8. Solum Tunc Possum Vivere 06:02
9. Vivam In Meo Somnio 01:09
10. Numquam Peribo 06:11

Yet the booklet lists 11 things, Vivam In Somnio being 9th (and Vivam In Meo Somnio being 10th and Numquam Peribo being 11th)...

Shouldn't two of those be linked together then, with / or something?

For example, cduniverse has it like this:
10. Viram In Neo Scmnic / Numquam Peribo

And on what basis for Vivam In Somnio not being one of the tracks? I wonder if someone knows; well someone added it. :)

Then again, are those phrases in the inside of the booklet track titles?

Here's an example from some kind of review / info text:
Quote:
This album can not be classified as a classical music, as this kind of music has certain rules that at least should be learned before broken. Ihsahn has therefore avoided to name his tracks by classical definitions, nor any names at all except from the main title of the album, SOMNIUM - the dream.


So... What do you think? Does someone know anything about the album?

...Hmm... MySpace contains two of the tracks and they seem to have the names that are listed in the booklet...

(and btw, changed the release year of the album. Mine shows 2000, it was 2001 there...)
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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 11:24 pm 
 

If your cd has 11 tracks, just change the tracklist and fix the track lenghts. What's so puzzling in that?


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Cursarion
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:04 pm 
 

Nope, it has 10.

But the supposed tracklisting lists 11 items. I'm just wondering on what basis only 10 of them have been chosen to the album info here... And I'm not sure if that text is even tracklist.
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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:05 am 
 

So...the cd has 10 tracks, just like the tracklist in MA, but the booklet says that it has 11? If that's correct, does the last track sounds like it's in fact two songs that were pressed together?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:09 am 
 

Yea, sometimes intros/outros are listed as separate tracks, when really they're just tacked onto the initial or final track.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:28 am 
 

Yup, if that's the case, then he should write the names of both tracks in the same track field. Ronimuz, you could also write about the discrepancy of the tracklists in the additional notes.

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Cursarion
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:03 am 
 

Okay.

Here's what the booklet page 1 contains:

Quote:
Solum visio perfecto est
Solum somnium completum est
Solum haec visio potest mihi dare
Absolutam commoventem suavitatem.
Solum hoc somnium est verum mihi.
Non possum vivere ante
Meum somnium esse veritatem.
Solum tunc possum vivere
Vivam in somnio
Vivam in meo somnio
Numquam peribo


Exactly like that. Some of the lines end with periods, which is quite weird.
But, if they wanted to publish a tracklist, this must be it. Booklet page 2 contains only credits, and the cover contains only the logo and text "Somnium". There's no text on the booklet page 4, and the back cover contains only label information. But, there's a chance the text here is not a tracklist, right? I don't know, it might be just a poem... Well, anyway, who knows. Their MySpace uses these though, I guess they should have it correctly there.

Anyway, it's really weird. I've gone through several webshops, including the one that's linked from candlelight records. They all have it differently.

And, if there's a intro/outro tackled into next track, it's quite hard to know which one it is... I'll listen it through carefully.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 6:37 pm 
 

It's likely that different editions may have slightly varying tracklists-- even if not in actuality, then at least so far as the album's layout/booklet is concerned.

What we aim for on MA is the actual tracklisting as it stands on the tape/disc/vinyl, preferably from the original release/pressing (there may be an exception to this latter condition in a few cases).
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:38 am 
 

RonimuZ wrote:
Okay.

Here's what the booklet page 1 contains:

Quote:
Solum visio perfecto est
Solum somnium completum est
Solum haec visio potest mihi dare
Absolutam commoventem suavitatem.
Solum hoc somnium est verum mihi.
Non possum vivere ante
Meum somnium esse veritatem.
Solum tunc possum vivere
Vivam in somnio
Vivam in meo somnio
Numquam peribo


Exactly like that. Some of the lines end with periods, which is quite weird.


Couldn't it be just a small poem?

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