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PiotrB
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:24 pm 
 
Which word should be started with small letter ?
a, of, on, the, and, with, an,

what with this :
thy, from, that, as

some bands name are with big letters, some with small...
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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 1:31 pm 
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitaliza ... capitalize

I think the third example is used on MA.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:00 pm 
 
yep, that's correct.
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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:30 pm 
 
I follow the fifth example.
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Star-Gazer
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:07 am 
 
is this just for band names?

or are we talking album titles as well?

if so, I prefer the 7th example listed there, but I know it probably isnt the most popular one
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GuyOne
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:11 am 
 
These two examples are most common for "properly" capitalizing titles:

The Vitamins Are in My Fresh Brussels Sprouts
capitalization of all words, except for internal articles, prepositions and conjunctions
The Vitamins are in My Fresh Brussels Sprouts
capitalization of all words, except for internal articles, prepositions, conjunctions and forms of to be
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MMisantropo
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:44 am 
 
It's for album and song titles as well, but I don't go as far as to verify every single one. On band names I guarantee 99% follow the standard.

Anyway, this is what the guidelines say:
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And please don't enter the names/titles all in caps, or all in lowercase (unless the song was originally spelled that way)!
Tip: band names and song/album titles generally have the first letter of each word capitalized (except for acronyms obviously), except for small words like "the" and "of" (unless of course they start the title). So it's "Cradle of Filth", "Council of the Fallen", not "Cradle Of Filth" or "Council Of The Fallen".


It's not explicit whether small pronouns and verbs count as "small words" (3rd vs. 5th example of the wikipedia page). On my interpretation, they don't. Also, I typically also capitalize the first and last words, prepositions that are part of phrasal verbs, and most conjunctions other than "and"/"or", specially when they connect whole sentences instead of two words (as in "Trick or Treat", "Fire and Water").
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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:44 am 
 
einvolk wrote:
if so, I prefer the 7th example listed there, but I know it probably isnt the most popular one

You should not follow that example. Nouns should always be capitalized here!

We also need to take into account that different languages follow different rules.
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Star-Gazer
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:07 am 
 
Evenfiel wrote:
einvolk wrote:
if so, I prefer the 7th example listed there, but I know it probably isnt the most popular one

You should not follow that example. Nouns should always be capitalized here!

We also need to take into account that different languages follow different rules.
OK - I have seen a few here and there, so if I notice them again I will point them out
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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:40 am 
 
Should such spelling also be applied for German?

When I have to see spellings like there
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=25966
I am close to vomiting.
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1. Eroffnung 01:33 [view lyrics]
2. Mein Jahr In Lemberg 1911 06:14 [view lyrics]
3. Mehmet Und Die Zirkusstadt 01:33 [view lyrics]
4. Zinnsoldaten Und Kanonen 1917 04:33 [view lyrics]
5. Anastasia Spennocchi 1920 06:09 [view lyrics]
6. Der Wein Der Lumpensammler 1923 02:38 [view lyrics]
7. Lied Fur Die Armut Anderer Leute 03:02 [view lyrics]
8. Judenkinder Oder Die Komodie Leute 03:19 [view lyrics]
9. Die Zinnoberrote Marionette 01:59 [view lyrics]
10. Understadt-Oberstadt-Zirkussadt 03:11 [view lyrics]
11. Die Linke Hand Des Musikanten 04:47 [view lyrics]
12. Komik Und Elegische Momente 01:55 [view lyrics]
13. Blumen Von Tschandravatii 1938 03:02 [view lyrics]
14. Eine Ungelebte Stunde 1941 05:48 [view lyrics]
15. Ithzak Kaufmann Und Das Bindfadencello 04:48 [view lyrics]
16. Der Lustige Tote 01:34 [view lyrics]
17. Epilog Aus Der Judengruft 01:38 [view lyrics]
18. Mein Letztes Stuck 02:09 [view lyrics]

everything except the title is corrected; this does also apply for the other albums.
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Bezerko
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:11 am 
 
Reaper43 and myself were discussing this a while ago. It would be great if version 2 had an "auto-cap" system, so words like "and" are automatically de-capped, while others are automatically capitalised. This would also help those annoying as hell ALL CAPITAL LETTERS submissions.
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Corimngul
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:32 am 
 
oneyoudontknow wrote:
Should such spelling also be applied for German?

When I have to see spellings like there
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=25966
I am close to vomiting.
Quote:
1. Eroffnung 01:33 [view lyrics]
2. Mein Jahr In Lemberg 1911 06:14 [view lyrics]
3. Mehmet Und Die Zirkusstadt 01:33 [view lyrics]
4. Zinnsoldaten Und Kanonen 1917 04:33 [view lyrics]
5. Anastasia Spennocchi 1920 06:09 [view lyrics]
6. Der Wein Der Lumpensammler 1923 02:38 [view lyrics]
7. Lied Fur Die Armut Anderer Leute 03:02 [view lyrics]
8. Judenkinder Oder Die Komodie Leute 03:19 [view lyrics]
9. Die Zinnoberrote Marionette 01:59 [view lyrics]
10. Understadt-Oberstadt-Zirkussadt 03:11 [view lyrics]
11. Die Linke Hand Des Musikanten 04:47 [view lyrics]
12. Komik Und Elegische Momente 01:55 [view lyrics]
13. Blumen Von Tschandravatii 1938 03:02 [view lyrics]
14. Eine Ungelebte Stunde 1941 05:48 [view lyrics]
15. Ithzak Kaufmann Und Das Bindfadencello 04:48 [view lyrics]
16. Der Lustige Tote 01:34 [view lyrics]
17. Epilog Aus Der Judengruft 01:38 [view lyrics]
18. Mein Letztes Stuck 02:09 [view lyrics]

everything except the title is corrected; this does also apply for the other albums.


It certainly shouldn't look like that. It certainly doesn't follow the norm, as described here [url]http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Großschreibung[/url]

I think we can use that one for German titles.
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Bonesnap
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:28 pm 
 
Bezerko wrote:
Reaper43 and myself were discussing this a while ago. It would be great if version 2 had an "auto-cap" system, so words like "and" are automatically de-capped, while others are automatically capitalised. This would also help those annoying as hell ALL CAPITAL LETTERS submissions.

That's a great thing to have but programming it would be a bitch and a half. The amount of checking and testing for each song title, album title and band title would be huge, not to mention what if a band wants all their songs to be capitalized? Or wants each word to begin with an uppercase (or lowercase) letter?
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Reaper43
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:32 pm 
 
Yes when i spoke of that auto-cap or de-cap idea I meant in relation to instrumentation. Song titles would be extremely hard to program, however instruments could be more cut and dry. As in either capitalized or not, depending on the preference of Morri and Hellblazer.
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DGYDP
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:29 pm 
 
I think the most logical thing to do would be to write it as it's on the album cover/official site ...
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MMisantropo
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:31 am 
 
THEN VIRTUALLY EVERY ALBUM WOULD BE IN ALL CAPS...
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DGYDP
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:41 am 
 
Good point.
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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:38 am 
 
Reaper43 wrote:
Yes when i spoke of that auto-cap or de-cap idea I meant in relation to instrumentation. Song titles would be extremely hard to program, however instruments could be more cut and dry. As in either capitalized or not, depending on the preference of Morri and Hellblazer.

I've already suggested that one or two years ago. Maybe in v2?
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