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Carver
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:40 am 
 

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No. 212 - Gruuthaagy / Zarach Baal Tharagh - " Undead Corpse Experiment "
( Croatia / France - Blackened Industrial Doom / Black Metal )
Release date - 110907

http://www.smellthestench.net/sts-net21 ... 110907.zip


I was just wondering why this release does not figure in the ZBT's MA page and why the other band Gruuthaagy does not have a MA page. Thanks.

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:41 am 
 

Carver wrote:
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No. 212 - Gruuthaagy / Zarach Baal Tharagh - " Undead Corpse Experiment "
( Croatia / France - Blackened Industrial Doom / Black Metal )
Release date - 110907

http://www.smellthestench.net/sts-net21 ... 110907.zip


I was just wondering why this release does not figure in the ZBT's MA page and why the other band Gruuthaagy does not have a MA page. Thanks.

no physical release I would say... Molk15 added it once when I remember it right, but it was deleted later.
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Carver
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:47 am 
 

Yea I see it's not a physical release but as i know that if the band already have a page on MA hen non-physical releases like his one can be added too to the page or not?

And by the way if the other band was considered a Blackened Industrial Doom band then why they does no have a MA page? I know that this band usually doesn't play metal but Blackened Industrial Doom sound metal

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:50 am 
 

Carver wrote:
Yea I see it's not a physical release but as i know that if the band already have a page on MA hen non-physical releases like his one can be added too to the page or not?

And by the way if the other band was considered a Blackened Industrial Doom band then why they does no have a MA page? I know that this band usually doesn't play metal but Blackened Industrial Doom sound metal

I also would like to have a mod's opinion on the matter, as the ZBT/Angelus Diaboli as well as the ZBT/Demetrius splits are both net-releases by Smell the stench records.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:06 am 
 

Carver wrote:
Yea I see it's not a physical release but as i know that if the band already have a page on MA hen non-physical releases like his one can be added too to the page or not?

And by the way if the other band was considered a Blackened Industrial Doom band then why they does no have a MA page? I know that this band usually doesn't play metal but Blackened Industrial Doom sound metal


Does the other band have some physical releases too?

Edit: it is harsh industrial, with only drums programmed in bm style on some songs. So the band alone is not acceptable.

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Carver
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:00 am 
 

Yea dunno who labeled the band as Blackened Indusrial Doom, anyway wha about those net releases? They although exist in other bands pages too.

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MMisantropo
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:24 am 
 

internet releases can be added, granted it's not a bootleg.

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Reaper43
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:27 am 
 

I guess that means there are a few releases that can be added back to Atavix's page as well.
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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:32 am 
 

Reaper43 wrote:
I guess that means there are a few releases that can be added back to Atavix's page as well.

Which is quite strange somehow, because all the fuss that is created to gat a band accepted here at the MA. It is necessary to have some kind of physical release to be actually listed here and after that this does not matter that much. A little bit contradictory.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:41 am 
 

oneyoudontknow wrote:
Reaper43 wrote:
I guess that means there are a few releases that can be added back to Atavix's page as well.

Which is quite strange somwhoe, because all the fuss that is created to gat a band accepted here at the MA. It is necessary to have some kind of physical release to be listed here and after that this does not matter that much. A little bit contradictory.


Do not start again on that, please.
When a band has a release that qualifies, the other releases are informational add-ons only.
It is strictly logical - one release that meets the criteria and substance - acceptable.
It is different if a band has only such "releases" or also physical ones.

It is similar as to why the bands are allowed to keep their all discography here, even non-metal releases.

If your favourite Luc Mertz decided to release an industrial demo under the zaarach moniker using their family dog as a session vocalist (quite probable, since everybody in that family is involved in his musical endeavours) it will be added.

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Carver
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:39 pm 
 

1 more thing when you download this demo the ZBT tracks are untitled (they are added as untitled in MA) but if you check the cover the ZBT 10 tracks are titled so show I change the untitled tracks on MA to those titles?

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MMisantropo
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:29 am 
 

yep.

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MushroomStamp
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:18 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
oneyoudontknow wrote:
Reaper43 wrote:
I guess that means there are a few releases that can be added back to Atavix's page as well.

Which is quite strange somwhoe, because all the fuss that is created to gat a band accepted here at the MA. It is necessary to have some kind of physical release to be listed here and after that this does not matter that much. A little bit contradictory.


Do not start again on that, please.
When a band has a release that qualifies, the other releases are informational add-ons only.
It is strictly logical - one release that meets the criteria and substance - acceptable.
It is different if a band has only such "releases" or also physical ones.

It is similar as to why the bands are allowed to keep their all discography here, even non-metal releases.

If your favourite Luc Mertz decided to release an industrial demo under the zaarach moniker using their family dog as a session vocalist (quite probable, since everybody in that family is involved in his musical endeavours) it will be added.


I reported the Atavix page for false information (most of the releases don't exist physically) but right after that I was directed to this thread, so sorry for the useless report.

However, shouldn't there be a notification about Internet releases in their album notes, or could we even have a distinct category for them?
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MMisantropo
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:50 pm 
 

A distinct category isn't necessary, but a mention in additional notes would be handy IMO.

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AurvandiL
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:31 pm 
 

Gruuthaagy has physical releases, I own one. Aye, it is DIY in its purest form (read "crap"), cd-r and xerox cover, but yet. Physical.

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Carver
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:47 pm 
 

But the band Gruuthaagy is not metal

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:51 pm 
 

Carver wrote:
But the band Gruuthaagy is not metal

Yes, he is only clarifying the character of the possible split.

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AurvandiL
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:21 pm 
 

It is not metal, yet more than many bands on this site.
It has more or less black metal vocals, d-beat, synthetic guitars and bass, "cyberpunk"/black metal riffs. Actually, the whole seems to be programmed, but it is done alright.

(I am not implying the band should be submitted, and, altogether, I don't care).

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:25 pm 
 

AurvandiL wrote:
It is not metal, yet more than many bands on this site.
It has more or less black metal vocals, d-beat, synthetic guitars and bass, "cyberpunk"/black metal riffs. Actually, the whole seems to be programmed, but it is done alright.

(I am not implying the band should be submitted, and, altogether, I don't care).

I understand that you do not care, but there are others...
More "metal" than the side projects perhaps, but not genuine metal bands.
It has something like black metal vocals and sometimes programmed blastbeats, but that is about it. Nothing that would resemble real guitar riffs, instead there are strange noisy and psychedelic industrial effects.

The drums are better programmed in than in case of Shadow of Death and similar bedroom stuff, but that does not say much...

It is heading in the dangerous direction again, so I would propose a LOCK.

All original questions were already answered.

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