I am Jean-Pierre Sammut from Malta, one of the most mentioned (and revered) activists in Malta (Europe). I have played (and still playing) in several bands. Moreover i have published magazines, released demos of my bands, released compilations featuring gazillion of bands, set up concerts and festivals ...... and i have also been featured in Nuclear Blast Records's compilations .... it's an endless list !!!!

I am currently writing my auto-biography ... it would supposed to fit in a page or two ....yet i reached page eight and i'm still in 1998 ....... it seems i need to chop off more and more details and leave the more important info only.

The irony is that the Administrator of this site is saying that i'm just a wanker who presents false information. Even more ironic is the fact that many Maltese bands featured in this site are either directly or indirectly related to me. Then my very OWN bands got rejected !!! What the hell !

For me, you are an anonymous user named Colossal, just that.
i do not know you, so I cannot know your musical history.
First, even long time musicians should respect and learn our rules first.
http://www.metal-archives.com/guidelines.php
http://www.metal-archives.com/faq.php
http://www.metal-archives.com/help.php

If you have read them, you would know, that bands with absurd genres are frowned upon, and frankly, I would expect from an established musicians to come with something better than "horror gore metal" as a genre tag. Such absurd genres will get rejected, no matter who submits them.

Furthermore read rule 7:

7) Proof of existence

First, the band must have at least released SOME material. If you don't even have a demo... forget it. The band might have been formed, even got a logo, but how will we know that they won't just disband before even recording any song? An mp3 or two on MySpace or mp3.com-like websites is not enough. The band must have a demo out - this is the minimum. If you want to add your band, and you *know* you will release something soon, simply wait until it's released before submitting it!

It would be best if there is mention of the band anywhere on the Web, even if it's just a demo review. Otherwise, it could be a joke band and we have no way of knowing. If you have complete line-up information and/or album titles with tracklisting, even if there is no mention anywhere else on the Internet (that'll mean the Encyclopaedia will have the exclusive information! ), it's already better than just the minimal information with no album.
As this rule was added several months after the site's launch, it's possible that some bands already on the Encyclopaedia are breaking it. If you KNOW a band listed here that virtually doesn't exist, feel free to report it.
(Note that 0 results on Google might not prove it doesn't exist, but it doesn't mean it never existed either - it just helps us if we see a mention somewhere on the Web...)


Did you offer links to reviews, distros, cover scans or songsamples??

No - so do not wonder the bands got rejected, especially when the first had non-existing, absurd genre too.
Rules are here for everybody, musicians, fans, collectors etc. alike.
Learn to respect them and act according to them, please.

"i'm just a wanker who presents false information."

Perfect, you even twist the truth here, I have not used such words, you got a predefined message, which is perfectly polite and used for all in this cases.
I have added only "gore metal - again this nonsense" and a couple of exclamation marks, since users who do this are pissing me off big time.

The sad fact is, that about 70% of band members do not even try to understand, how the site works, before they do an update or submit their band here.
http://www.metal-archives.com/board/vie ... 35&start=0

Horror Gore Metal was invented by Amercian band AUTOPSY (mistakenly classified as Death Metal in your site) right after Chris Reifert stopped playing with the late Chuck Schuldiner.
Other famous Horror Gore Metal bands are IMPETIGO, early CARCASS (overlapping with Grind-core), American PHANTASM and European GROTESQUE (both not so famous).

Bands like PUNGENT STENCH and CANNIBAL CORPSE are different. They play Death Metal with Gore lyrics. This has little to do with Gore Metal.

No, we do not accept such pseudo genres, bands can call their music archaic epic metal or forest metal , but that does not say anything about the music.
About the lyrics, maybe, but nothing about the actual sound. I repeat such absurd genres will not be accepted here, when such bands play death metal or death/grind, they should be labelled as such.

I f you would like to have Autopsy listed as horror gore metal here, we have finished talking. And you will join ther legions of band memmber with completely absurd claims, as listed in the thread I have linked.

As for your submissions, if you offer the needed proof, samples, links scan and reviews, they will be accepted, if not they will be rejected, plain and simple.

As for internet-links to my projects:

If you write "GRUESOME FUNERAL NUCLEAR BLAST" in Google you should find satisfactory info.

As for EERIE OBELISK, some info should come up too.

AS for DISINTERRED, this is too historical to be mentioned on the internet ... yet there might be some references by other musicians (some of whom have been accepted in your site by your majesty).

So you have a problem with distinguishing between "Death metal with Gore lyrics" and "Proper Gore Metal" ....

.... i suggest you should ask Paul Speckman, an American veteran (and co-creator) of Thrash Metal who has just moved to YOUR country (and he's now playing with Krabathor). He'll explain to you.

You are making the submission, you will provide the info in it - the links etc.

This is how it works here, so for the last time, read the submission guidelines and include all what is needed in your submission.

I have provided all the guidelines, all you have to do is read through them.

17 300 hits for eerie obelisk, most of them are about Egyptian culture or world monuments. If you think I will look through all of them, you are wrong - this is work for 7 hours.


http://www.myspace.com/astrometry
Gruesome Funeral can be resubmitted, but with a valid genre.
For the others, I would need some infos confirming the existence of the releases and their metalness.

Disinterred too - you should include such link in the first place.

I repeat, there is no such thing as gore metal, it as as much metal genre as forest metal is.

I have read several interviews with Paul Speckmann. and he never used this term alays, death metal, thrash metal or doom metal for the respective band in question.

For the last time, Autopsy are death metal, they have all the definition marks of that style and if they were called as gore metal by some fanzines back then, it has a value of some old school black metal band being called satanic occult metal" by current zines.

Gosh! You rely on that childish fantasy-site called "MySpace".

Honestly i didn't even know i was mentioned on that site. And anyone sending me messages from that site is actually reaching other people whom i don't know (... to be honest i think i know who might have set up that page ....). I will be visiting that page right after finishing this post as i want to check out the details. I got to know that some fans (in good faith) have described some of my Demo-Tapes as Albums ..... that's not fair to the public!

Listen, GRUESOME FUNERAL is mentioned on some site of Virgin Records which lists all of NUCLEAR BLAST Records's releases. That is what i call: "truthful info".

If have shown you a possible example of proof, you can now submit the bands, but with a valid genre.

The main point was a proof of existence of the demo since a song on a various artist compilation would not qualify a band for submission (be it on Nuclear Blast or not), as you would know, if you did follow my advice and read the three rules sections on the main page first.


For the second and hopefully last time and for your future submissions:

7) Proof of existence

First, the band must have at least released SOME material. If you don't even have a demo... forget it. The band might have been formed, even got a logo, but how will we know that they won't just disband before even recording any song? An mp3 or two on MySpace or mp3.com-like websites is not enough. The band must have a demo out - this is the minimum. If you want to add your band, and you *know* you will release something soon, simply wait until it's released before submitting it!

It would be best if there is mention of the band anywhere on the Web, even if it's just a demo review. Otherwise, it could be a joke band and we have no way of knowing. If you have complete line-up information and/or album titles with tracklisting, even if there is no mention anywhere else on the Internet (that'll mean the Encyclopaedia will have the exclusive information! Wink), it's already better than just the minimal information with no album.
As this rule was added several months after the site's launch, it's possible that some bands already on the Encyclopaedia are breaking it. If you KNOW a band listed here that virtually doesn't exist, feel free to report it.
(Note that 0 results on Google might not prove it doesn't exist, but it doesn't mean it never existed either - it just helps us if we see a mention somewhere on the Web...)

http://www.metal-archives.com/board/vie ... hp?t=32679

Such amazing feats of engineering!!!

And another thing, hasn't this topic been locked?