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Kennermahn
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:46 am 
 

TheGrimWombat wrote:
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I agree with the Death Before Dishonour part. They don't sound like a regular heavy/thrash metal band.


Yes, but the original proposal of thrash/death metal is hilarious. It has elements of thrash, heavy, groove metal and RAC. I do agree that the best route is likely "Thrash Metal/RAC".


Hmm, I didn't know someone had proposed Thrash/Death Metal. Yeah, Thrash Metal/RAC makes much more sense.

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Bonziepsycho
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:03 pm 
 

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Knuckle Dragger's genre is fine, except I think Hardcore should be added to the tag; their three releases prior to the new ep were very hardcore, and less so death metal. So "Powerviolence/Grindcore/Hardcore/Death Metal."
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Kn ... 3540450521
https://knuckledraggertn.bandcamp.com/ (4-Way Split, Pinion / Knuckle Dragger, self titled)

Agoraphobic Nosebleed's genre is fine except Cybergrind needs to be added to the Grindcore tag (Cybergrind/Grindcore, Sludge/Doom Metal). They play more straightforward grind on Honky Reduction and Agorapocalypse, but are far more on the electronic cyber side of grind on Frozen Corpse Stuffed With Dope and--especially--Altered States of America.
* https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ag ... 3540453905
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2eIf6fxs-I
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3qBpKgHjJ4
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m_IYjBhlbU
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J2UrXH5tds

Full of Hell's genre makes sense, somewhat, but they definitely play powerviolence and noise on their newest album. Might it just be better to condense the genre to "Powerviolence/Grindcore/Death Metal, Noise" (since the noise is played separate from the main genre, such as single tracks or segments of songs, or like the full EPs) and write in the notes that they shifted to a more deathgrind sound on their last two albums?
* https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Fu ... 3540438869
* https://fullofhell.bandcamp.com/album/weeping-choir (noise and powerviolence)
* https://fullofhell.bandcamp.com/album/t ... ng-ecstasy (no noise, but powerviolence)
* https://fullofhell.bandcamp.com/album/a ... eavy-light (I know this was a one off collaboration, but it is definitely "noise" and "powerviolence" to describe the later genre)
* https://neurotrecordings.bandcamp.com/a ... ike-i-ache (Another one off collaboration that fits the noise and powerviolence in the later style)

I've also seen that Slam has been added as a genre, and here are four band's that fit this tag:
* https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ma ... 3540408586
* https://mancubus1.bandcamp.com/album/yo ... el-ep-2015


* https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Re ... 3540407912
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgcVYunQed8 (sorry, I could only find a live video)
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg0bdTK24pQ
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xlu4gBYeYE

* https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Re ... 3540403393
* https://regurgitatedpus.bandcamp.com/

* https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Me ... 3540431112 (I would also suggest replacing grindcore with goregrind)
* https://horrifiedproductions.bandcamp.com/album/promo
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JJ_MuRKuUY

* https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ch ... 3540394207 (also this should include "beatdown hardcore" instead of just hardcore since it's so specific to their genre)
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jhxWw8lghc

I'm not really sure why Noctem has thrash in their genre; they've just sounded like Melodic Black/Death their entire discography.
* https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Noctem/102839
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMb88dwS0BU
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnTblcwCJYg
* https://noctem.bandcamp.com/album/haeresis

Spirit Possession sounds like first wave black metal, so I think Black/Speed Metal fits them better because they certainly aren't pure "black metal."
* https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Sp ... 3540462766
* https://spiritpossession.bandcamp.com/album/2020-demo

Inhuman Nature is definitely defined as "crossover" on their new album. They have some crossover elements, with more hardcore elements on their first EP; vice versa on their new album. So, Thrash Metal/Crossover/Hardcore should be fine.
* https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/In ... 3540431445
* https://inhumannature.bandcamp.com/album/inhuman-nature

Tore Fagerheim is an artist I've been meaning to bring up for a while now. His full length album, which got him accepted, was pure Melodic Death Metal; however, he needs additional tags. He ventures into pure Metalcore at times. He also has many singles, of many different styles. I think his genre needs to be extended to "Melodic Death Metal, Metalcore, Various." I think the comma works better because he ventures between the really melodic melodies and then into harsh palmuting; not really musically combining the two at the same time.
* https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/To ... 3540424849
* https://metalguitarstuff.bandcamp.com/a ... lking-fire
* https://metalguitarstuff.bandcamp.com/t ... king-track
* https://metalguitarstuff.bandcamp.com/t ... tic-ballad
* https://metalguitarstuff.bandcamp.com/t ... king-track

Also, I think Rambo Hates Rainbows needs a slight addition, too. They released a Noisecore album in the middle of their discography, so "Black/Sludge/Doom Metal, Noisecore, Electronic." Of the few releases they have, it's the only other full length and the second longest release, so it's a legitimate style they've played. I can't find the first demo, but it included all three styles as well separately.
* https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ra ... 3540407237
* https://8bitexternal.bandcamp.com/album ... ship-grind

I saw it go back and forth in the rejection forum and thought they sounded interesting. It was originally uploaded as Black Metal/Black 'n' Roll then changed to Black Metal/Punk. Both are technically right, but accurately it's Black Metal/Crust 'n' Roll. It definitely has B&R elements, but leans more toward black metal with punk/roll elements. It sounds like Black Panda/Hejtman (who are actually on this site as crust 'n' roll) with black metal.
* https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Bl ... 3540462938
* https://blackass.bandcamp.com/

I'm really sorry about this one, guys. Picha's early tag is mildly incorrect; the grindcore/noise early tag as it is would be accurate for a band like Full of Hell or Hatred Surge, but these two releases merit it two different genres: Noisegrind/Gorenoise. Both are uniquely different and are heavily incorporated in both. The noisegrind aspect of it incorporates heavy noise over grind riffs while having an odd uniqeness to it (like Anal Cunt or ShitFuckingShit's first album: https://shitfuckingshit.bandcamp.com/al ... -2006-2007). The gorenoise aspect is seen in parts of the first release and heavily in the second, where it is essentially harsh noise wall-grind, or basically goregrind with the gain and level turned up all the way. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyR9G-IALWA) those two samples/examples lay out the difference in the two and show how it is present in the early tag for Picha.
* https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Picha/3540427636
* https://picha.bandcamp.com/album/carepicha
* https://picha.bandcamp.com/album/culiando-renalmente


Gatecreeper are known for having started the hardcore influenced death metal and consistently incorporate it as a secondary genre. I'm not a huge fan of the influences/elements genre tag, but I think adding hardcore as one or the other is appropriate in this case. The hardcore sound is too representative to completely ignore for them.
* https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ga ... 3540382449
* https://gatecreeper.bandcamp.com/album/ ... epravation
* https://gatecreeper.bandcamp.com/album/gatecreeper

Death to Honor (pre-Waking the Cadaver) are just listed as "death metal." It's definitely not the slamming brutal stuff they played once they changed their name, but it's still very hardcore influenced, so I'd suggest Death Metal/Hardcore or Death Metal/Deathcore. They don't "slam;" they just play death metal with hardcore influenced chugging.
* https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/De ... onor/62180
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N2iASkFJkk
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV4otx6tZIQ


I love that this band is on here, but why is their genre funk rock? They play Funk Metal, a sub genre of Alternative Metal. They sound far less like Betty Davis and Funkadelic and more like Primus, Precious Death (who I just realized and am surprised are on this site), and The Beyond. I understand that you guys may be wanting to distinctly have this look as a side-project exception, but realistically funk metal is not acceptable on this site, besides some of the funky stuff Faith No More and Mr. Bungle do, so there really isn't harm is changing it. There's also a handful of funk metal genre tags on this site, which are funk/X acceptable metal genre, but it's not a stretch. (https://www.metal-archives.com/search?s ... band_genre)
Funk Rock:
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB3C8hvPIqo
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWFvXNA5-eQ
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB9H7zuA5mk
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21sP7orRS3c

Funk Metal:
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTjAGIIO_-0
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=953PkxFNiko
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4nFX4roZ6Y
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG_k5CSYKhg

Infectious Grooves:
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f7XwCsx4fs
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVb6kq_94dU
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAJ5-7sqqbc
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob3buKk6ALc


Sorry for the long list bump, guys. Just get around to it when you're able to.
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Atmospheric Black Metal:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ac ... 3540446199
https://acathexis.bandcamp.com/

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MorbidEngel
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:37 pm 
 

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/35 ... 3540371693
https://350teric.bandcamp.com/

Based on the note someone added to their page, wouldn't the genre warrant a possible change?
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Started as a Progressive Metal/Djent project, but later evolved more into Post-Metal/Rock genre.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:43 pm 
 

TheGrimWombat wrote:
TheGrimWombat wrote:
Normally, I'd probably edit the last post to add this in; but I think this is more important than that.

This one has been bothering me for a while. Why is Hermetica (https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/He ... 9tica/2721) listed as only Thrash Metal? Apart from the first album (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q796hC ... sX4lfd81NY and I'd say even that has more of the thrash/speed metal flavor of early Metallica and some straight speed metal and heavy metal tunes), they are mostly a heavy/speed metal band with some thrash riffs strewn about (https://open.spotify.com/artist/6j6Ld5h0aFgH0VQWQNazS7 "Intérpretes", "Ácido argentino", "Víctimas del vaciamiento").


TheGrimWombat wrote:
I think that Cause for Revelation should have hardcore in their genre.

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ca ... ion/115843

Music:
https://open.spotify.com/album/6fIPW7IkdfJroK2BC8FsEn



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:46 pm 
 

While the current description accurately describes Bomber's first demo and full-length album, I would describe their later releases as Alternative Metal when considering the vague Funk influences. Falsche Freunde certainly isn't Hardcore Punk as the music has more in common with Faith No More, Soundgarden or (later) Uncle Slam than Black Flag, Leatherface, Agnostic Front or Madball.

If anyone is interested, I can also provide links for Geld regiert die Welt since it follows a similar theme and is nowhere to be found on YouTube.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:07 pm 
 

Newly accepted "John Sullivan" needs a little tweaking:

His non-metallic albums are on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/album/3uX6bjo9gehrWf7QgIigvy
https://open.spotify.com/album/4r7MSutfGimqGBw9JK3EPm
https://open.spotify.com/artist/5Y0vzdfWm0FFMS1UQNZBBl

And then on "Higher than High" things switched to heavier music:
youtube.com/watch?v=ONxU7Sgv55c
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:15 pm 
 

Death/Thrash Metal/Hardcore:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Angelreich/55505
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCndDq0 ... /playlists

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Groove Metal/Metalcore:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Arkaea/3540286099
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=O ... =1&index=1

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:05 pm 
 

I brought No One Gets Out Alive (you know, the "banjo slam" project) up in a report, but it was promptly closed with no modification to the band's genre. Since the site has considered slam death metal to be a subgenre for about a year now, I think, and NOGOA is definitely slam, the genre should be changed for both time periods. "Slam/Brutal Death Metal (early), Slam/Brutal Death Metal/Bluegrass (later)"

See here.

Old stuff without banjo:
https://rottenrollrex.bandcamp.com/albu ... -slaughter
New stuff with banjo:
https://rottenrollrex.bandcamp.com/albu ... e-the-rest
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2020 4:13 pm 
 

TBH, I'm not exactly sure if this would be accepted as a band but I saw they weren't blacklisted, nor were they on the site, so I figured I would run this by the powers that be and see what kind of metal this is and not waste the time of the mods if it doesn't meet up with their standards: Their first full-length is coming up in about a month, featuring a singer that's been in several other bands, there are four supporting members that go by a "first name only" and with dozens of matches in those names, I'm not taking a chance on picking one that might be wrong just because he or she looks close. :)

The band is called Xordia:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lok3__obs4g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssODqoT56bE

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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2020 3:27 pm 
 

Subrick wrote:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Let_Us_Prey/3540410900

Let Us Prey is listed as metalcore, although their one EP "The Saint of Killers" really doesn't have anything metalcore on it. For the most part it's a thrash/melodic death metal hybrid release.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-jM5A1yn4M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4-tRp0YfeA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSWUZcx0ppY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ylp28XMLgqE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1DEOzisPsc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF6NC1k3tQo


Bumping this again because they just put out a new song that perfectly fits the thrash/melodeath descriptor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLDRDDyuGHk
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Hi there friends.
Post Mortal Possession: Technical death metal (or technical/brutal death metal can be added too in my opinion)
All albums I've heard of them can be labeled on this genre, cheers :)

https://postmortalpossession666.bandcamp.com/
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I was checking some stuff of the band Pecado. Recently, I saw their Metallum’s page and it says “Death Metal”.
It’s obvious their Death Metal influences on their Ep “Christ Invasion”. But in “7 Psalms, 7 Sins” their sound has more Black Metal atmospheres in a low tune. On February, the band released “Baphomet”, a single for their upcoming second album. This song it’s a change in the sound, the riffs and voice changes to Black Metal to enhace the atmospheres.
The band specifies that plays “Paganus Black Metal” since 2010. So it’s a mistake that their have been catalogued as Death Metal.

Here are some links:
- https://youtu.be/HJ3l3sBoL4k (Christ Invasion single)
- https://youtu.be/q0gR0KA-aJc (Immoral Religion video)
- https://youtu.be/WHbNN3PNfuk (Lies Of Death video)
- https://youtu.be/L9wIhvoG5xA (Brain Infection live)
- https://youtu.be/owwKXyX2FSY (7 Psalms’, 7 Sins)
- https://youtu.be/5BwWLMKwHXk (Baphomet)
- https://www.facebook.com/PecadoCalgary/ (Official Facebook)

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Avatar no longer plays Stoner Metal. Please listent to their new latest EP so you can update the genre accordingly.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=O ... -Ao-c5eHlI (EP- Stories of the Ancient Worlds)

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Avatar/104897

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 5:18 am 
 

BuriedUnborn wrote:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Blood_and_Thunder/3540283091

Blood and Thunder are definitely Symphonic/Melodic Death Metal, as evidenced by the latest stuff. Haven't actually heard their earlier albums but their last stuff is definitely symphonic.

https://bloodandthunder.bandcamp.com/


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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 12:01 pm 
 

Hey people, Goatscrote have tons of "noise elements" too, I believe it would be good adding Noise after black/death metal imo.

Just give a listen to every release they got, harsh drums, raspy bass, lots of missed guitar notes (on purpose I think) and out of tune https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Go ... 3540467820

Good material tho, pretty nice.
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Symphonic Black Metal or maybe Blackened Gothic Metal in the vein of the Cruelty and the Beast era:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/In ... quiem/6500
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... OoU1KBykqB
EDIT: Changed to Melodic Black/Gothic Metal.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:22 pm 
 

Hello
A band that I added, Инсургент, had its genre changed to a less accurate one before being accepted. I submitted it with the genre Metalcore/Groove Metal/RAC (probably Metalcore wasn't right) but then it was accepted with the genre Groove Metal. While it's true their last album is groove metal, their previous records are just hardcore punk/RAC with barely any metal influences, especially in their second release. My suggestion would be to have it changed back to

Groove Metal/RAC
Groove Metal, RAC

Witcher created a report for this.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:37 pm 
 

While it isn't inaccurate to call All Out War's discography "Thrash Metal/Crossover/Hardcore," is there a reason why Metalcore isn't in the genre field? The majority of their work can be safely considered Metalcore with only the first two albums primarily featuring both Thrash Metal and Metalcore.

Same with Merauder. Metalcore should be added to the genre field.

On another note, I think Overcast merits "Thrash Metal" in the genre field because Expectational Dilution (first 12 tracks here) is as much Thrash as it is Metalcore.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:35 pm 
 

Muhammadabbadabba wrote:
While it isn't inaccurate to call All Out War's discography "Thrash Metal/Crossover/Hardcore," is there a reason why Metalcore isn't in the genre field? The majority of their work can be safely considered Metalcore with only the first two albums primarily featuring both Thrash Metal and Metalcore.

Same with Merauder. Metalcore should be added to the genre field.

On another note, I think Overcast merits "Thrash Metal" in the genre field because Expectational Dilution (first 12 tracks here) is as much Thrash as it is Metalcore.


Changed the first two to metalcore, they're definitely metalcore bands throughout their discography, while those other styles are present but more peripheral.

Regarding Overcast, I think metalcore is sufficient. I've always heard of and thought of them as a landmark in metalcore, and while it's different than the style of metalcore those guys would be playing in other bands a decade later, it's definitely metalcore.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:41 pm 
 

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Heruka/34513 so I haven't listened to the first album, but the second one really doesn't seem to be symphonic unless I'm missing something

Second album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iEsSUUCKhE
First album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ta93qP ... o-ry49PA1s

Not sure if this needs a report yet, but if needed I'll go file one.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:10 pm 
 

Melodic Death Metal/Metalcore in the vein of Heaven Shall Burn:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Morda/97962
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=O ... wVHD_QIXwk
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=O ... j_fqnGasIo


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:36 pm 
 

Tygers of Pan Tang should have a hard rock/AOR (mid) tag added. The albums The Cage (1982), The Wreck-Age (1985), and Burning in the Shade (1987) all demonstrate this style.

The Cage: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=O ... MKmucS_Nng
The Wreck-Age: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX9SnGWk71o
Burning in the Shade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDrK7V1vh90

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:29 am 
 

I wanted to suggest for a while now to change the Black Tribe genre from "Experimental Black Metal, Industrial/Noise" to "Experimental Black Metal, Various" because aside from the experimental black metal there's really a whole lot of everything with no specific focus.

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Black_Tribe/7223
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vindfukk
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:10 pm 
 

PAIN - INSANITY

Thrash oughta be added to the list of genres i.e. Power/Speed/Thrash

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2T5j2iZaBc

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:12 pm 
 

^ He talks about this band:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Pain/1745
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:17 pm 
 

actually I'm hearing Speed/Thrash with power influences

what's wrong with the band?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:35 am 
 

Hello, I wanted to make a case that Sonata Arctica just being listed as power metal should be changed. The early material is totally power metal, however a lot of the newer stuff has very different sound. I think it would be much more fitting if it were to switch to something like "power metal (early), melodic/progressive metal/rock (now)" for example. There are many fans of the early material who feel similarly about the band in its current state. Also in a 2019 interview with Tony Kakko, he claimed that "the music style has changed from the early days because that was just a phase that we happen to land our recording contract with"

Thank you for your time and stay safe.

Interview with Tony Kakko start at 50 seconds and watch till the 2 minute mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILxV8UV8Wu0

Of course they still will make some more power metalish songs here and there, on new albums but that is almost more often than not, there as a throwback for older fans. I would suggest listening to all of Ecliptica and Silence, then listen to Stones grow her name, the ninth hour and Talviyo and you can hear the difference.

early Sonata Arctica
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KRDPrAjwtE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCLtKcMIUk8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv9BOup ... IN70Is7dMM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk3XJ4z ... MM&index=3

new Sonata Arctica
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vDBe0hIZZk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sue_ufn ... P8&index=5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQY3jal ... P8&index=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzoGtRx ... bA&index=2

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:38 am 
 

droneriot wrote:
I wanted to suggest for a while now to change the Black Tribe genre from "Experimental Black Metal, Industrial/Noise" to "Experimental Black Metal, Various" because aside from the experimental black metal there's really a whole lot of everything with no specific focus.

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Black_Tribe/7223

Done.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:02 pm 
 

About a month ago, Dutch band Vandenberg (a band I have been listening for a long time and am familiar with their discography) was accepted based on their last album: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Va ... 3540469608

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=127932&p=2912327&hilit=vandenberg#p2912327

As the band was blacklisted based on their 80's output, I proposed to change the genre to the following: Hard Rock (early), Heavy Metal/Hard Rock (later) , but the report was rejected.

Here are their 80s albums:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L18cjQ5 ... D1-ZNjYe_k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiZvvAS ... bnlcCsw5P9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIkEfWu ... lE-VUiS8hu

It is usual for bands that were accepted based on their later albums:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Fate/3540456328

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:22 pm 
 

Keys Of Orthanc latest of three albums is pure Ambient/Dungeon Synth. I'm curious if that should just be relegated to the releases additional info, or the band page genre should be changed to Atmospheric Black Metal, Ambient/Dungeon Synth.

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ke ... 3540436828
https://youtu.be/774zn-Q313Q

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:58 pm 
 

GodOfMalice wrote:
Keys Of Orthanc latest of three albums is pure Ambient/Dungeon Synth. I'm curious if that should just be relegated to the releases additional info, or the band page genre should be changed to Atmospheric Black Metal, Ambient/Dungeon Synth.

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ke ... 3540436828
https://youtu.be/774zn-Q313Q

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:14 pm 
 

Automag is listed as heavy/sludge metal, though I think a southern metal tag would be more appropriate.

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Automag/3540263588
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=O ... -oatbsY2-U

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:22 am 
 

^Southern Metal/Rock (early); Rockabilly (later)

2012 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-k27vh ... EjntlWwaY8
2019 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz7cfG3 ... lxTz1bkQ4c
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 1:56 am 
 

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Do ... Hole/85164

Probably needs an update.

Their new stuff is Heavy Metal/Hard Rock since it's been re-imagined with the Downhell members:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMEw252YtYI
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:10 pm 
 

I think hard rock should be added to the genres of the following band:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Night/3540361055

Here are their two latest releases (they are releasing new album today, but I still have to listen it):
https://nightband.bandcamp.com/album/fe ... everywhere (2020 EP)
https://nightband.bandcamp.com/album/ni ... -the-world (2017 LP)

Even CHAIRTHROWER mentioned this in his review (https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... ld/662589/):
"As implied, for the most part, Raft Of The World sounds much more sophisticated and polished than previous releases - were it not for those, I feel the moderators might have possibly debated or contested Night's "metal" merits."

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:13 pm 
 

Lord_Sauron wrote:
I think hard rock should be added to the genres of the following band:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Night/3540361055

Here are their two latest releases (they are releasing new album today, but I still have to listen it):
https://nightband.bandcamp.com/album/fe ... everywhere (2020 EP)
https://nightband.bandcamp.com/album/ni ... -the-world (2017 LP)

Even CHAIRTHROWER mentioned this in his review (https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... ld/662589/):
"As implied, for the most part, Raft Of The World sounds much more sophisticated and polished than previous releases - were it not for those, I feel the moderators might have possibly debated or contested Night's "metal" merits."

I didn't even know they were on MA to be honest, I've heard the new album and it's not metal. I'll make the change.

(Well, uh I approved them back in 2013 lol...)
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:05 am 
 

Posting the report for Titkolt Ellenállás:
Kennermahn wrote:
Genre should be:
Crossover Thrash/Hardcore Punk (early); Groove/Heavy Metal/RAC (later)

Their first two albums (especially the first album) sound like crossover thrash/hardcore punk and don't feature this groove metal influence at all and the "RAC" influence is very little if any. Their second album is heavier on the crossover and the first one on the hardcore punk.

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Source/Evidence:
https://open.spotify.com/album/1Q0XjWo2UQZ4t17YosmaYv
https://open.spotify.com/album/6plNmTYhbBChjj2R6TFI9V
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Also, given that this band released its first album in 1994,keeping the genre as it is would imply that some obscure far-right band somehow pioneered groove metal.

I'm inclined to agree. Mindent vissza is UK82-style Hardcore Punk, but the band went Crossover Thrash on Forró a levegő. They transitioned over to Groove/Heavy Metal on Feltámadás, but still had their feet between Crossover Thrash and Groove/Heavy Metal on A "hatalom" emberei. They even tried their hand at Alternative Rock, Nü-Metal and Metalcore at the very end of their career; not sure if you feel that's worth noting, but thought I'd point it out. In any case, the vast majority of the band's work after the third release is a mix of Groove and Heavy Metal.

Songs of note from that period: "A Pesti srácok" (Nü-Metal), "Téged akar" (Alt Rock), "Harcra fel!" (Groove/Nü-Metal), "A béke rabja" (Groove/Nü-Metal), A harc folytatódik (Metalcore)

Albums of note:
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:58 pm 
 

Another one that I think needs "rock" in their genres (although the difference is that they don't have any albums that are 100% rock, but most of their releases (all available on Bandcamp) have some heavy psych rock influences: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Owl/3540331007

Here is their Bandcamp:
https://owlbrotherhood.bandcamp.com/

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