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AndromedaVessel
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 8:10 pm 
 

Timeless Necrotears

Sorry to whoever decides to listen to this, but I'd like to suggest a change from current to "Gothic Black/Doom Metal (early); Avant-garde/Experimental Gothic/Doom Metal (later)", with the "early" period being the demos and the live EPs, and "later" being all the rest.

The demos and live EPs:
- Mournful Melodies for Darkness
- Self-titled
- Live at Bascula 1994
- Live at Sala Mephisto 1996

Five random albums of the rest (it's pretty much how this project goes from 2013 onwards):
- Thora's Ride Through the Halls of Eternity
- Barcelona AD 2099
- Jurzikum Part 1
- Goddesses & Gods of the Universe 2
- Diary of an Interdimensional She-Scientist

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TheLoneForest
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 2:19 pm 
 

https://youtu.be/RFtRXatjj1s

New Lantlos. Genre should be Post Black Metal (Early); Alternative/Post-Metal (Later)

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delcev903
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2021 11:44 am 
 

I added Krigstjørn (https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Kr ... 3540488283) as BLACK METAL band and KingSpooky changed it to post-black (when he was accepting the submission) which is FALSE statement.
This band is clearly only a black metal band. I don't know where this guy heared that post thing. Here are some samples and change it back to black metal:
https://www.amazon.com/-/es/Krigstj%C3% ... B08XYG7NXN


btw. this is not the only case where he is changing the genre on his own. And in most situations he is wrong!

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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2021 9:37 pm 
 

AndromedaVessel wrote:
Timeless Necrotears

Sorry to whoever decides to listen to this, but I'd like to suggest a change from current to "Gothic Black/Doom Metal (early); Avant-garde/Experimental Gothic/Doom Metal (later)", with the "early" period being the demos and the live EPs, and "later" being all the rest.

The demos and live EPs:
- Mournful Melodies for Darkness
- Self-titled
- Live at Bascula 1994
- Live at Sala Mephisto 1996

Five random albums of the rest (it's pretty much how this project goes from 2013 onwards):
- Thora's Ride Through the Halls of Eternity
- Barcelona AD 2099
- Jurzikum Part 1
- Goddesses & Gods of the Universe 2
- Diary of an Interdimensional She-Scientist

I GUESS.
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 11:49 am 
 

Hi,
Listening again to Krigstjørn, I do hear a post-Black Metal sound in tracks 3 and 6 of the clips that were provided. Feel free to put in a wrong genre report in these kind of cases, providing the full release to take into consideration.
Not sure what you mean about changing the genre "on my own." There are a lot of times that I discuss changing a genre with other people before doing so. As often as I deal with adjusting genres, there will be some error/disagreement, in which cases you can send in a report with your point of view and music to reference, rather than voicing it somewhere on the forum where I am only made aware of it from a third party. I hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2021 4:18 pm 
 

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Zona_Morta/9762

There is a report:
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 Death / Thrash
Source/Evidence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-TfogSj0IY
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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2021 4:21 pm 
 

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Me ... 3540418825

Should be tagged as "Brutal Deathcore (Early), Blackened Brutal Deathcore (Later)". They dropped a new album and it is extremely heavy with black metal influence in the riffs and atmosphere, but still includes a shitload of (actual) slams and breakdowns. The first three songs alone are all you need to tell:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84TfX98cLYA

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Heliogabalus
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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2021 6:52 am 
 

The new album by Gargoyle sounds more like black/doom metal than doom metal: https://gargoylehorror.bandcamp.com/alb ... -necrodoom

Genre should be Doom Metal (early); Black/Doom Metal (later), in my opinion

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ga ... 3540409776

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Heliogabalus
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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2021 9:48 am 
 

Another band I want to bring to your attention is Chaos Echoes: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ch ... 3540353940

They are listed as Death/Doom Metal but this genre tag doesn't reflect their music properly.

Many releases are filled with Drone/Ambient elements (including their full length "Transient"). A couple of releases are Drone/Ambient only ("The Umfathomable") or Drone/Jazz ("Sustain"). Jazz presence is also very strong (see "Parisian Sessions / Rehearsal I", "Duo Experience / Spectral Affinities"), even on their most metal releases (see song textures on "Mouvement").

Experimental Death Metal/Drone/Jazz might be a better tag.

Listen: https://chaosechoes.bandcamp.com/

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TheUnhinged
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:39 pm 
 

Heliogabalus wrote:
Another band I want to bring to your attention is Chaos Echoes: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ch ... 3540353940

They are listed as Death/Doom Metal but this genre tag doesn't reflect their music properly.

Many releases are filled with Drone/Ambient elements (including their full length "Transient"). A couple of releases are Drone/Ambient only ("The Umfathomable") or Drone/Jazz ("Sustain"). Jazz presence is also very strong (see "Parisian Sessions / Rehearsal I", "Duo Experience / Spectral Affinities"), even on their most metal releases (see song textures on "Mouvement").

Experimental Death Metal/Drone/Jazz might be a better tag.

Listen: https://chaosechoes.bandcamp.com/


I agree with this. They aren't a death/doom band.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:48 pm 
 

A few years ago, I reported Honor because I felt and still feel that Viking Metal should be added to the field, but apparently, a band must have Viking themes to merit such classifying. Given that W płomieniach wschodzącej siły (and its English dub In Flames of the Rising Power) feature all the compositional aspects (big, bombastic riffs that convey epicness minus the folksiness) plus a song referencing Thor and berserkers charging into battle as well as other songs referencing Slavic gods and other things associating with Rodnovery, Honor's Metal albums have thoroughly earned the distinction of being called Viking Metal.

Here are songs from that album.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:32 am 
 

The band Warknife should be updated. Only the first album is death/thrash. The second one is some kind of progressive or post-* style. I'm not sure how you'd label it but it's definitely not death/thrash.
https://warknife.bandcamp.com/album/amorphous

Also I don't think my previous post was ever acknowledged, or maybe the mods disagreed with it, but I didn't see a reply.

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The band Chronicle from Denmark is under the genre "Blackened Melodic Thrash Metal". I really don't think this is even remotely accurate. I don't hear any black metal in their music aside from maybe a borderline riff here and there and the thrash influence is questionable at best.

https://chroniclemetal.bandcamp.com/releases
https://open.spotify.com/album/680sggmpRZ5197QeBa1bkb


They sound more like melodic death metal than anything else to me.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:00 pm 
 

This band is currently tagged as "melodic metal": https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Innosin/34919

While there are only two traceable tracks from that same release, I guess it is fair to assume that these constitute what could've been the musical basis of the band. To me, it could be changed to gothic metal or even melodic heavy metal, as their music is pretty much on the vein of another bands of that same style, like Crimson Sun:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FodLbaoJSeM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loZkWXO0fa4

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 12:11 am 
 

Votum - my suggestion would be "Progressive/heavy metal (early), Progressive/atmospheric/industrial metal (later)"

It's tricky as they've always been prog metal with something that definitely made them a bit of an outlier and darker than most prog metal.

Their early stuff has a darker, almost doomy vibe and some riffs that would belong on a Green Carnation or Paradise Lost record, but not sure if that's enough for a "doom" tag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilCDblEQpv4
The latest full-length (so far) has a slight Katatonia vibe, simpler riffs and denser arrangements with some electronics, hence "progressive/atmospheric" imo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqhh8aziRCg
The latest EP goes deeper into industrial, has more techy riffs and definitely fits that "atmospheric" label. There's even a slight djent element but again I don't think it's enough for a "djent" tag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf8ity-CA_s

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:14 am 
 

Is Unjoy(https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Unjoy/3540322371) Depressive Black Metal?
Photophobia is tagged DBM, what is the difference between them?
Sorry if I'm wrong.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 5:32 pm 
 

Descend Into Maelstrom has recently adopted a more progressive/experimental edge to their music:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/De ... 3540423997

https://descentintomaelstrom.bandcamp.com/track/pater
https://descentintomaelstrom.bandcamp.com/album/gehenna

It could be changed to something like: "Melodic Death Metal (early), Progressive Death Metal (later)".

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:56 am 
 

The long-running policy and golden rule of the site has always been "heavy metal ONLY"....
well then why are there a couple bands listed solely as progressive rock then? About 3 of them arent even side-projects (which i thought was the only exception for non-metal bands), so it's very peculiar.

Today I filed a report for Rush to have "heavy metal" brought back to their genre. It's beyond me why it was even removed in the first place and without it, it only makes their presence on MA even more confusing. There is no note in their bio that even explains why they're here despite only being listed as prog rock.
But despite this I really hope my report could maybe get fulfilled because i feel like i've brought up some valid points
https://www.metal-archives.com/report/view/id/762958/

Shortly after this I did a search to see if this is common anywhere else, and then I noticed these bands (which dont appear to be side-projects) are also listed SOLELY as progressive rock:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Unicorn/5445
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Transatlantic/5503

So shouldn't they either have a metal genre added to their genre or should be deleted from the database? ........Or do these two have some super notable musicians that make the cut for the "side project" rule somehow and i'm just being dense? (Most of these bands usually mention it in the notes).

All & all the main point of this is that I hope Rush's genre problem can get fixed.
The other stuff on this was just a little extra.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:43 am 
 

Unicorn were acceptd as a side project by Dan Swanö. Do you see him in the line-up?
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Unicorn/5445
It wawas recently explained on the "Cleansing The Archivess" forum , sso you can search for it.
Transatlantic were accepted as a side project of Mike Potnoy, when he was still in Dream Theater.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:16 am 
 

TheLoneForest wrote:
https://youtu.be/RFtRXatjj1s

New Lantlos. Genre should be Post Black Metal (Early); Alternative/Post-Metal (Later)


Bump now that the album is out. Looks way neater this way too. Or Progressive/Post-Metal works too, as the new album is very prog influenced

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:27 pm 
 

Haven't listened to their latest album, but V.I.D.A. (https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/V. ... 3540439086) don't sound any close to melodeath at all in their first full-length, it's closer to a groove/death metal/deathcore sound, I find no melodic elements in the music.

https://open.spotify.com/album/1PYYGyd8 ... l_branch=1
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 1:05 pm 
 

Reposting my report for G.I.S.M.

I think G.I.S.M. should also be tagged Thrash Metal on account of SoniCRIME TheRapy. That album is packed full of Thrash riffs.

Tracks of note: Runs-2, Ki-4, Runs-3, Runs-1, Ru-3, Ki-5, Ru-1

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 10:04 am 
 

Deafheaven dropped their new album Infinite Granite today and it's obviously a pretty drastic shift in sound, so I'm guessing their genre should be updated to something like Post-Black Metal (early); Shoegaze (later).
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 4:50 pm 
 

Cronian's genre should be changed to Black Progressive Metal.

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Cronian/60344

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br3uPHG ... asonofMist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bJXhv_ ... asonofMist
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 9:59 am 
 

S9NE wrote:
Deafheaven dropped their new album Infinite Granite today and it's obviously a pretty drastic shift in sound, so I'm guessing their genre should be updated to something like Post-Black Metal (early); Shoegaze (later).

https://www.metal-archives.com/report/view/id/766230
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:39 pm 
 

Luddite Clone - https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Luddite_Clone/3477
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJT5KbY7U2U
While they're listed as simply metalcore, I'm not sure if this is what I'd call purely metalcore; it seems a bit too spastic, but I'm not sure if it's worth the report.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:34 am 
 

Reposting my report for The Exile

I would definitely add Hard Rock or AOR to the genre field because several of their songs are Melodic Hard Rock / AOR, especially on the debut album. And then, there's Homecoming II; haven't been able to track down the full album, but the few I've heard are Hard Rock, Funk Rock and Heavy Metal.

Rest assured, they are a proper Heavy Metal band, especially on the 1995 sophomore album The Exile, but the genre field should reflect their Hard Rock tunes because even that album has more than its share.

Our Homeland:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... tKOPL_B_pz
https://youtu.be/50BpElrBYr8

AOR/Hard Rock tunes: บ้านเกิดเฮา, Sophie, หากว่าฮักแท้จะลอง, บ่แคร์, Come Back to Me

Heavy Metal tunes: อย่าเสียหลัก, ว่างงาน, สาวลาวที่ Canada, The Exile

The Exile:
https://youtu.be/zTzJISlMi28

AOR/Hard Rock tunes: ปล่อยไปกับสายลม, เชื้อร้าย, ตะวัน, ยอมจำนน

Folk ballad: ยังรอ

Heavy Metal tunes: อหังการ์, นาฬิกา, เก็บไว้เองเถอะ, นรกชัดๆ, มันต้องตาย

Tracks from Homecoming II:
https://youtu.be/lP5T-eVYx8k (Heavy Metal)
https://youtu.be/lP5T-eVYx8k (Funk Rock)
https://youtu.be/JrTyfuIqlYY (Melodic Hard Rock)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:04 am 
 

I don't understand why Death Toll 80k have death metal in their genre here. They have occasionally death metally riffs but its not a significant amount, if anything it should be grindcore/thrash metal with the amount of thrash riffs they have. The other bands that play within the same style like P.L.F and Insect Warfare are just grindcore here, so why would this one be death metal?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:11 pm 
 

Seven Spires' genre is currently listed as just "Symphonic Metal", but their new album has an extremely heavy influence from black metal and melodeath. Their prior albums had extreme elements in there too, but the power metal part of their sound was still the definite main focus of their music. Not so much with the new album, which might actually be more extreme metal than power metal at this point. I think their genre should be changed from "Symphonic Metal" to "Symphonic Power/Black Metal". Below is a Youtube playlist of the album for evidence.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... DkcYY5lmuc
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Se ... 3540385624
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:08 am 
 

Dragony should have their genre updated to melodic/symphonic power metal. Here's their Spotify page for reference. When I brought this up on the MA Discord, Stormy agreed with me, comparing them to Serenity and Majestica. Would be really appreciated.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:55 pm 
 

Vetrar Draugurinn's latest The Night Sky is out, and to my ears doom is at least as prominent as their gothic traits.

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Vetrar_Draugurinn/3540425090

https://open.spotify.com/album/3vqqiajJMlcXRvlLJDz4Qu

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:12 pm 
 

LithoJazzoSphere wrote:
Vetrar Draugurinn's latest The Night Sky is out, and to my ears doom is at least as prominent as their gothic traits.

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Vetrar_Draugurinn/3540425090

https://open.spotify.com/album/3vqqiajJMlcXRvlLJDz4Qu


Agreed, adjusted.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:16 am 
 

Névoa from Portugal. They're listed as "Atmospheric/Avant-garde Black Metal", but their latest album "Towards Belief" is basically post-metal with tons of jazz and psychedelia, and only some (post-)black metal reminiscences. Probably "Avant-garde Black Metal (early); Post-Metal/Jazz (later)" might be a better tag in my opinion.

Latest album here: https://nevoaofficial.bandcamp.com/album/towards-belief

Second album here: https://nevoaofficial.bandcamp.com/album/re-un

First album here: https://nevoaofficial.bandcamp.com/albu ... ce-of-void

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 2:04 pm 
 

TheLoneForest wrote:
TheLoneForest wrote:
https://youtu.be/RFtRXatjj1s

New Lantlos. Genre should be Post Black Metal (Early); Alternative/Post-Metal (Later)


Bump now that the album is out. Looks way neater this way too. Or Progressive/Post-Metal works too, as the new album is very prog influenced


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 5:51 am 
 

Q5's second album When The Mirror Cracks sounds like Hard Rock/AOR in the vein of Journey. So the genre can be updated as "Heavy Metal/Hard Rock (early, later) AOR/Hard Rock (mid)".

https://open.spotify.com/album/6iK7C8czLM7UUmgyXUXssi

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:09 am 
 

Darzamat's album last year, A Philosopher At the End of the Universe, has toned the bombastic keyboard orchestrations way back and the atmosphere now comes from copious reverb/delay and other effects on the clean and lead guitars.

I think a more accurate listing now would be: "Symphonic Black/Gothic Metal (early); Melodic Black/Gothic Metal (later)"

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Darzamat/2129

https://open.spotify.com/album/4qFbwUrCc6aIncEVxsJuzp

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 4:07 pm 
 

W.E.B. from Greece: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/W.E.B./24494

They're listed as Symphonic/Gothic Metal, but they have always had some some hellenic black metal elements, and they become more evident from their third album onwards, so I'd suggest updating it to "Symphonic/Gothic Metal (early); Symphonic Black/Gothic/Death (later)" or even "Symphonic Gothic/Black Metal" to keep it simple

First album (Symphonic/Gothic):
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfWB ... eAYBsHR2dQ

Second album (Symphonic/Gothic with Black Metal elements):
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfWB ... 81Uji_9X3s

Third album (Symphonic Black/Gothic):
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfWB ... yVaotDPVbm

Fourth album (Symphonic Black/Gothic):
https://youtu.be/NQfcSRoYIpY

Fifth album (Symphonic Black/Death):
https://youtu.be/-KArq6UZuiQ

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:59 am 
 

I know it's not news that the report queue is overflowing as of late, but right now there are over 100 open "wrong genre" reports in the queue that could use some attention from the moderation team since you guys are the only ones with the final say on genre changes.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 4:21 pm 
 

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:51 am 
 

MetalCuresHeadaches wrote:
I know it's not news that the report queue is overflowing as of late, but right now there are over 100 open "wrong genre" reports in the queue that could use some attention from the moderation team since you guys are the only ones with the final say on genre changes.


Hi there, I'm on the move of trying to get as many of these cleared out as possible.

Jordan75 wrote:
W.E.B. from Greece: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/W.E.B./24494

They're listed as Symphonic/Gothic Metal, but they have always had some some hellenic black metal elements, and they become more evident from their third album onwards, so I'd suggest updating it to "Symphonic/Gothic Metal (early); Symphonic Black/Gothic/Death (later)" or even "Symphonic Gothic/Black Metal" to keep it simple


I'll be looking into this today. I remember listening to their stuff and finding they were a bit too hard for symphonic/gothic metal alone.

EDIT: I listened to songs from various albums, and it kind of went back and forth between some sort of melodeath and symphoblack. Not hearing gothic metal, at least not primarily. Going for "symphonic black metal, melodic death metal" now.

LithoJazzoSphere wrote:
Darzamat's album last year, A Philosopher At the End of the Universe, has toned the bombastic keyboard orchestrations way back and the atmosphere now comes from copious reverb/delay and other effects on the clean and lead guitars.

I think a more accurate listing now would be: "Symphonic Black/Gothic Metal (early); Melodic Black/Gothic Metal (later)"

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Darzamat/2129

https://open.spotify.com/album/4qFbwUrCc6aIncEVxsJuzp


I'm pretty familiar with this band, but I haven't heard this newest album yet. I'll give a try and see if it's worth adjusting.

EDIT: So I'm listening to it now, and you are right, there are no synths here. That being said, it feels like kind of a bulky tag for an otherwise subtle change. They have kind of rotated between symphonic black, gothic/black, and plain gothic metal throughout their career. For instance, Oniriad isn't a black metal album at all. I think it would be best to just leave it as is for now, as it ties in all the different elements their sound has touched on over the years.

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