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Vadara
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:28 pm 
 

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Me ... 3540418825

Maybe they were Brutal Deathcore earlier, but I listened to their latest LP and it was bog-standard deathcore in the vein of bands like Within Destruction or Signs of the Swarm (which are both just listed as "Deathcore" and nothing else on here). Maybe this band should be listed as just "Deathcore" or maybe the other two bands and the myriad ones like them on the archives should be tagged as Brutal, but something isn't labeled right here. Way too many melodic riffs and atmosphere and far too few slams to be truly Brutal, IMO.

https://uniqueleaderrecords.bandcamp.com/album/inferis

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GodOfMalice
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 9:49 pm 
 

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/In ... gorge/3500

Three of this band's full lengths, The Shadows That Stride from World to world, Let Them In and Lurking in the Void Between Dreams are played in a bizarre, cut-up, avant-garde and almost non-music style. The initial recordings seem like standard noise/grindcore, but some of the tracks don't even feature mashed up recordings, but brooding ambient/experimental/noise/avant-garde tracks. Would an additional "Mid" between their early and later phase be appropriate, or does it not matter and it's the original recordings that do? Just curious.

https://intestinaldisgorge.bandcamp.com/music

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joecubbie
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 12:45 pm 
 

Bumping this from almost 5 years ago. I too was recently wondering why Icon was labeled "Power Metal". I think Heavy Metal/Hard Rock (early), AOR (later) would be more appropriate.

PhantomOTO wrote:
Icon: http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Icon/3540263980
Current genres: Power Metal (early), Heavy Metal/Hard Rock (later)

Their first album is in no way power metal of any kind. It's much closer to contemporary glam metal, albeit on the heavier side. If this is power metal, so is WASP's first few LPs. You could probably make a reasonable case for Dokken, too. Basically any post-NWOBHM American heavy metal band would be power metal (which to me seems like the inevitable conclusion of the "USPM" push but I digress). Here's the whole thing on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPBe6iQ81qI

Also AOR is a much more appropriate label for their later stuff. Check out Night of the Crime for an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF6yFY2ziUs

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S9NE
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 6:19 pm 
 

S9NE wrote:
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Ever since I submitted Barbarus (USA), I felt that calling it pagan/doom metal didn't sound right. I made a report for this, but it got closed without any comment. I still can't put my finger on exactly what would be more accurate, but this is certainly not doom metal (imo). I just wrote that hoping someone would come up with something better.

So anyway, here are the albums on Bandcamp:
Barbarus I (+ instrumental version)
Into the Distant Light

Bumping this from the last page.

Bumping again.
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Bonziepsycho
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:56 pm 
 

Bonziepsycho wrote:
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Knuckle Dragger's genre is fine, except I think Hardcore should be added to the tag; their three releases prior to the new ep were very hardcore, and less so death metal. So "Powerviolence/Grindcore/Hardcore/Death Metal."
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Kn ... 3540450521
https://knuckledraggertn.bandcamp.com/ (4-Way Split, Pinion / Knuckle Dragger, self titled)

Agoraphobic Nosebleed's genre is fine except Cybergrind needs to be added to the Grindcore tag (Cybergrind/Grindcore, Sludge/Doom Metal). They play more straightforward grind on Honky Reduction and Agorapocalypse, but are far more on the electronic cyber side of grind on Frozen Corpse Stuffed With Dope and--especially--Altered States of America.
* https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ag ... 3540453905
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2eIf6fxs-I
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3qBpKgHjJ4
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m_IYjBhlbU
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J2UrXH5tds

Full of Hell's genre makes sense, somewhat, but they definitely play powerviolence and noise on their newest album. Might it just be better to condense the genre to "Powerviolence/Grindcore/Death Metal, Noise" (since the noise is played separate from the main genre, such as single tracks or segments of songs, or like the full EPs) and write in the notes that they shifted to a more deathgrind sound on their last two albums?
* https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Fu ... 3540438869
* https://fullofhell.bandcamp.com/album/weeping-choir (noise and powerviolence)
* https://fullofhell.bandcamp.com/album/t ... ng-ecstasy (no noise, but powerviolence)
* https://fullofhell.bandcamp.com/album/a ... eavy-light (I know this was a one off collaboration, but it is definitely "noise" and "powerviolence" to describe the later genre)
* https://neurotrecordings.bandcamp.com/a ... ike-i-ache (Another one off collaboration that fits the noise and powerviolence in the later style)

I've also seen that Slam has been added as a genre, and here are four band's that fit this tag:
* https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ma ... 3540408586
* https://mancubus1.bandcamp.com/album/yo ... el-ep-2015


* https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Re ... 3540407912
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgcVYunQed8 (sorry, I could only find a live video)
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg0bdTK24pQ
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xlu4gBYeYE

* https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Re ... 3540403393
* https://regurgitatedpus.bandcamp.com/

* https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Me ... 3540431112 (I would also suggest replacing grindcore with goregrind)
* https://horrifiedproductions.bandcamp.com/album/promo
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JJ_MuRKuUY

* https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ch ... 3540394207 (also this should include "beatdown hardcore" instead of just hardcore since it's so specific to their genre)
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jhxWw8lghc

I'm not really sure why Noctem has thrash in their genre; they've just sounded like Melodic Black/Death their entire discography.
* https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Noctem/102839
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMb88dwS0BU
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnTblcwCJYg
* https://noctem.bandcamp.com/album/haeresis

Spirit Possession sounds like first wave black metal, so I think Black/Speed Metal fits them better because they certainly aren't pure "black metal."
* https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Sp ... 3540462766
* https://spiritpossession.bandcamp.com/album/2020-demo

Inhuman Nature is definitely defined as "crossover" on their new album. They have some crossover elements, with more hardcore elements on their first EP; vice versa on their new album. So, Thrash Metal/Crossover/Hardcore should be fine.
* https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/In ... 3540431445
* https://inhumannature.bandcamp.com/album/inhuman-nature

Tore Fagerheim is an artist I've been meaning to bring up for a while now. His full length album, which got him accepted, was pure Melodic Death Metal; however, he needs additional tags. He ventures into pure Metalcore at times. He also has many singles, of many different styles. I think his genre needs to be extended to "Melodic Death Metal, Metalcore, Various." I think the comma works better because he ventures between the really melodic melodies and then into harsh palmuting; not really musically combining the two at the same time.
* https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/To ... 3540424849
* https://metalguitarstuff.bandcamp.com/a ... lking-fire
* https://metalguitarstuff.bandcamp.com/t ... king-track
* https://metalguitarstuff.bandcamp.com/t ... tic-ballad
* https://metalguitarstuff.bandcamp.com/t ... king-track

Also, I think Rambo Hates Rainbows needs a slight addition, too. They released a Noisecore album in the middle of their discography, so "Black/Sludge/Doom Metal, Noisecore, Electronic." Of the few releases they have, it's the only other full length and the second longest release, so it's a legitimate style they've played. I can't find the first demo, but it included all three styles as well separately.
* https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ra ... 3540407237
* https://8bitexternal.bandcamp.com/album ... ship-grind

I'm really sorry about this one, guys. Picha's early tag is mildly incorrect; the grindcore/noise early tag as it is would be accurate for a band like Full of Hell or Hatred Surge, but these two releases merit it two different genres: Noisegrind/Gorenoise. Both are uniquely different and are heavily incorporated in both. The noisegrind aspect of it incorporates heavy noise over grind riffs while having an odd uniqeness to it (like Anal Cunt or ShitFuckingShit's first album: https://shitfuckingshit.bandcamp.com/al ... -2006-2007). The gorenoise aspect is seen in parts of the first release and heavily in the second, where it is essentially harsh noise wall-grind, or basically goregrind with the gain and level turned up all the way. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyR9G-IALWA) those two samples/examples lay out the difference in the two and show how it is present in the early tag for Picha.
* https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Picha/3540427636
* https://picha.bandcamp.com/album/carepicha
* https://picha.bandcamp.com/album/culiando-renalmente


Gatecreeper are known for having started the hardcore influenced death metal and consistently incorporate it as a secondary genre. I'm not a huge fan of the influences/elements genre tag, but I think adding hardcore as one or the other is appropriate in this case. The hardcore sound is too representative to completely ignore for them.
* https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ga ... 3540382449
* https://gatecreeper.bandcamp.com/album/ ... epravation
* https://gatecreeper.bandcamp.com/album/gatecreeper

Death to Honor (pre-Waking the Cadaver) are just listed as "death metal." It's definitely not the slamming brutal stuff they played once they changed their name, but it's still very hardcore influenced, so I'd suggest Death Metal/Hardcore or Death Metal/Deathcore. They don't "slam;" they just play death metal with hardcore influenced chugging.
* https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/De ... onor/62180
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N2iASkFJkk
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV4otx6tZIQ


I just realized that Infectious Grooves is on here and think that's awesome, but why is their genre funk rock? They play Funk Metal, a sub genre of Alternative Metal. They sound far less like Betty Davis and Funkadelic and more like Primus, Faith No More, and The Beyond. I would even say in the same vein as Scatterbrain, but that's a topic for another time (unless someone else thinks that "heavy" should be replaces with "Alternative").
Funk Rock:
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB3C8hvPIqo
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWFvXNA5-eQ
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB9H7zuA5mk
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21sP7orRS3c

Funk Metal
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTjAGIIO_-0
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=953PkxFNiko
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4nFX4roZ6Y
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG_k5CSYKhg
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbLhHtaVIO4
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXBrLMeDCyQ

Infectious Grooves
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f7XwCsx4fs
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVb6kq_94dU
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAJ5-7sqqbc


Sorry for the long list bump, guys. Just get around to it when you're able to.
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AriesWarlock
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2019 6:24 pm 
 

About the band Abaddon, I'd like to suggest adding symphonic black metal (early) in their genre.

As per their biography:

Quote:
Abaddon's coming into life dates back to 1995 when the band was founded as symphonic black metal band riding the wave of this highly emotional and epic style.


Listen here, skip to 04:52:


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I Am the Law
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:46 pm 
 

The band Chronicle from Denmark is under the genre "Blackened Melodic Thrash Metal". I really don't think this is even remotely accurate. I don't hear any black metal in their music aside from maybe a borderline riff here and there and the thrash influence is questionable at best. Their first album and following EP sound like straight-up melodic death metal to me. They have a new song from their most recent album and I don't think it falls under the existing genre either but rather is closer to melodic death metal IMO.

https://chroniclemetal.bandcamp.com/releases
https://open.spotify.com/album/09EZhklMcpOy6I8qNTM9Zb

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GodOfMalice
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:37 pm 
 

I understand new albums released under 'The Kovenant' are electronic/industrial metal releases, but they also re-released all of their 'Covenant' albums under this name as well, and all of those albums were melodic black metal. So wouldn't the genre tag "Electronic/Industrial Metal, Melodic Black Metal" be more fitting?

Both classic albums under 'The Kovenant': https://www.discogs.com/The-Kovenant-In ... se/2759853 and https://www.discogs.com/The-Kovenant-Ne ... se/2973429

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:50 am 
 

Following Paganiusi's advice, I am posting here a few bnds, that have been falsely tagged with the thrashcore genre:
Undertow (Germany) - gothic/doom metal
https://open.spotify.com/artist/5VDEccNE2sLSs3QCiw6YTg
https://www.youtube.com/user/34CE
Ritual (Ita)- thrash/groove metal
https://www.youtube.com/user/MaxRITUAL
Stoutness (Fra): thrash/groove metal
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChYlue ... NATr4LXbqQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR5YPyc9LHc
Days Of Grace (Ger) - thrash/groove metal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYYdH885w8c
https://open.spotify.com/artist/7cD0ZuhK6ztPdQpPuv1wl1
Taunt - death/thrash metal/metalcore
https://www.youtube.com/user/666TAUNT
Pink Little Pig - thrash/groove metal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUqwx3pwUI4
Nerun- thrash metal/crossover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R88GIw9vrm8
Terremoto - thrash/groove metal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU2JXTs2qGc
https://open.spotify.com/album/1DmXTcuSWp0xphzPzPXmyi


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droneriot
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:31 pm 
 

GodOfMalice wrote:
I understand new albums released under 'The Kovenant' are electronic/industrial metal releases, but they also re-released all of their 'Covenant' albums under this name as well, and all of those albums were melodic black metal. So wouldn't the genre tag "Electronic/Industrial Metal, Melodic Black Metal" be more fitting?

Both classic albums under 'The Kovenant': https://www.discogs.com/The-Kovenant-In ... se/2759853 and https://www.discogs.com/The-Kovenant-Ne ... se/2973429

Needs to be added to the rules that re-releases of previous names don't count for the current one. Covenant members aren't added to the The Kovenant line-up either, that's how you can see it's official policy even if the admins haven't spelled it out in the rules yet.
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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:05 pm 
 

TheGrimWombat wrote:
Normally, I'd probably edit the last post to add this in; but I think this is more important than that.

This one has been bothering me for a while. Why is Hermetica (https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/He ... 9tica/2721) listed as only Thrash Metal? Apart from the first album (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q796hC ... sX4lfd81NY and I'd say even that has more of the thrash/speed metal flavor of early Metallica and some straight speed metal and heavy metal tunes), they are mostly a heavy/speed metal band with some thrash riffs strewn about (https://open.spotify.com/artist/6j6Ld5h0aFgH0VQWQNazS7 "Intérpretes", "Ácido argentino", "Víctimas del vaciamiento").


TheGrimWombat wrote:
I think that Cause for Revelation should have hardcore in their genre.

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ca ... ion/115843

Music:
https://open.spotify.com/album/6fIPW7IkdfJroK2BC8FsEn
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necroperversor666
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:02 pm 
 

hey guys... I play in Necrogosto and woud like to ask if someone is able to change the music genre from "black/thrash" to "black/death metal".
here is the band's profile link: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ne ... 3540437034

there are some links to reviews and a release where you can find the reason why it's wrong... but I think giving a listening to it may solve the doubt. thank you very much the help.

links:
music - https://necrogosto.bandcamp.com/
release - http://www.nwnprod.com/?p=12180
release - http://www.nwnprod.com/?p=11144
review - http://www.vm-underground.com/review/ne ... e-release/
review - http://occultblackmetalzine.blogspot.co ... r-now.html

please tell me if you need more info.
cheers from brazil

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:07 pm 
 

ThStealthP wrote:


Bumping this.


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AriesWarlock
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:42 pm 
 

The band Bütcher i think it was listed as a heavy/speed/black metal before, and now it's changed to speed metal. I think this should be reverted because they are not a pure speed metal band. There's also a elements of black metal and heavy metal in the majority of their songs.

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/B%C3%BCtcher/19687

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Bütcher's first full-length album! A furious frenzy of speed, black & heavy metal - all brewed in a cauldron of analog & vintage recording material. An acquired taste, to be savoured by old skool metal maniaks!

If you're into Agent Steel, Celtic Frost, Nifelheim, Venom, Exciter, Darkthrone, Manowar, Deströyer 666, Slayer,... go ahead, check us out!



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necroperversor666
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:48 pm 
 

anyone can help, please?

necroperversor666 wrote:
hey guys... I play in Necrogosto and woud like to ask if someone is able to change the music genre from "black/thrash" to "black/death metal".
here is the band's profile link: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ne ... 3540437034

there are some links to reviews and a release where you can find the reason why it's wrong... but I think giving a listening to it may solve the doubt. thank you very much the help.

links:
music - https://necrogosto.bandcamp.com/
release - http://www.nwnprod.com/?p=12180
release - http://www.nwnprod.com/?p=11144
review - http://www.vm-underground.com/review/ne ... e-release/
review - http://occultblackmetalzine.blogspot.co ... r-now.html

please tell me if you need more info.
cheers from brazil

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:13 pm 
 

necroperversor666 wrote:
anyone can help, please?

necroperversor666 wrote:
hey guys... I play in Necrogosto and woud like to ask if someone is able to change the music genre from "black/thrash" to "black/death metal".
here is the band's profile link: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ne ... 3540437034

there are some links to reviews and a release where you can find the reason why it's wrong... but I think giving a listening to it may solve the doubt. thank you very much the help.

links:
music - https://necrogosto.bandcamp.com/
release - http://www.nwnprod.com/?p=12180
release - http://www.nwnprod.com/?p=11144
review - http://www.vm-underground.com/review/ne ... e-release/
review - http://occultblackmetalzine.blogspot.co ... r-now.html

please tell me if you need more info.
cheers from brazil

It's clearly black/thrash, no need to change anything here.
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GodOfMalice
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:34 pm 
 

GodOfMalice wrote:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Intestinal_Disgorge/3500

Three of this band's full lengths, The Shadows That Stride from World to world, Let Them In and Lurking in the Void Between Dreams are played in a bizarre, cut-up, avant-garde and almost non-music style. The initial recordings seem like standard noise/grindcore, but some of the tracks don't even feature mashed up recordings, but brooding ambient/experimental/noise/avant-garde tracks. Would an additional "Mid" between their early and later phase be appropriate, or does it not matter and it's the original recordings that do? Just curious.

https://intestinaldisgorge.bandcamp.com/music


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necroperversor666
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:06 pm 
 

PaganiusI wrote:
necroperversor666 wrote:
anyone can help, please?

necroperversor666 wrote:
hey guys... I play in Necrogosto and woud like to ask if someone is able to change the music genre from "black/thrash" to "black/death metal".
here is the band's profile link: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ne ... 3540437034

there are some links to reviews and a release where you can find the reason why it's wrong... but I think giving a listening to it may solve the doubt. thank you very much the help.

links:
music - https://necrogosto.bandcamp.com/
release - http://www.nwnprod.com/?p=12180
release - http://www.nwnprod.com/?p=11144
review - http://www.vm-underground.com/review/ne ... e-release/
review - http://occultblackmetalzine.blogspot.co ... r-now.html

please tell me if you need more info.
cheers from brazil

It's clearly black/thrash, no need to change anything here.


the topic asks for links, reviews and so on. I posted it all. also there's the music to be listened to. and of course, a band member asking nicely for the change because it's just wrong to call this genre "black/thrash". it's simply black metal or black/death metal. but ok, maybe there's no use for this topic anyway?

still would appreciate if someone who actually read the links could help. thanks.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:31 pm 
 

I listened to the music, which is what really matters when it comes to genres. Review and such are kind of the backup plan when the music itself isn't available to us.
Genre stays.
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necroperversor666
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:35 pm 
 

PaganiusI wrote:
I listened to the music, which is what really matters when it comes to genres. Review and such are kind of the backup plan when the music itself isn't available to us.
Genre stays.


there's so little thrash elements in our music that it feels stupid arguing about it. band says you are wrong, serious label says you're wrong, serious reviewers say you are wrong, but ok, then. I asked very respectfuly and gave the links proving a very reasonable common sense over the band's music genre, but with the judge/god attitude as if someone who spent a lifetime listening to extreme metal - and actually wrote the songs - dont know nothing about it, well, just let it be wrong...

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:13 pm 
 

necroperversor666 wrote:
PaganiusI wrote:
I listened to the music, which is what really matters when it comes to genres. Review and such are kind of the backup plan when the music itself isn't available to us.
Genre stays.


there's so little thrash elements in our music that it feels stupid arguing about it. band says you are wrong, serious label says you're wrong, serious reviewers say you are wrong,

And they're all wrong. This is so obviously thrash that it's not even funny. If you don't hear the thrash in your sound on the demo, you seriously need to learn what thrash metal sounds like.

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Storm of the Light's Bane wrote:
necroperversor666 wrote:
PaganiusI wrote:
I listened to the music, which is what really matters when it comes to genres. Review and such are kind of the backup plan when the music itself isn't available to us.
Genre stays.


there's so little thrash elements in our music that it feels stupid arguing about it. band says you are wrong, serious label says you're wrong, serious reviewers say you are wrong,

And they're all wrong. This is so obviously thrash that it's not even funny. If you don't hear the thrash in your sound on the demo, you seriously need to learn what thrash metal sounds like.



hahahahahahahahahahaha..

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https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Bl ... 3540283091

Blood and Thunder are definitely Symphonic/Melodic Death Metal, as evidenced by the latest stuff. Haven't actually heard their earlier albums but their last stuff is definitely symphonic.

https://bloodandthunder.bandcamp.com/
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Maten al Rey might have started out as heavy/power, but their 2009 album went a hard rock way, and their newest album is straight soft pop rock.

I'd suggest the tag: Melodic Heavy/Power Metal (early); Hard Rock (mid); Pop Rock (later) or Melodic Heavy/Power Metal (early); Hard/Pop Rock (later). Their 2009 release is way heavier than their latest one though.

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https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/So ... 3540403535

Based on their first album (https://sobretuscenizas.bandcamp.com/al ... us-cenizas) and the few songs I've heard from their latest release, STC could be possibly considered "Technical Metalcore", given the huge amount of riffs, guitar work and overall virtuosity or ambitiousness of their songs.
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Gotta say, Hunde des Krieges really isn't Thrash Metal. It's more Groove/Heavy Metal with RAC influences, although it seems somewhat thrashy on account of the Hardcore influences. I know PaganiusI took care of Witcher's removal request and deemed them to be Metal enough. Perhaps we should revise the genre.
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Yeah, I wanted to revise that anyway. Will get back to it today, hopefully.

*Edit: Changed to Heavy Metal/RAC.*
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Only straight-up Deathcore:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxZaTvZLVPQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWqe6WXyvuY
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=O ... 4K-KDxozQs

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I think Lament Christ should remain listed as "funeral doom", their demo is an unsung classic of the genre. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RAcr1bCfBg
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That thing TheStormIRide did, I don't get it. Why apostrophes?

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You mean semicolons. ;)

We not so long ago agreed on using them for (early);(later) separations. This one was simply a misunderstanding on TSIR's side.
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I have no idea why I said apostrophes, presumably alien mind control.
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ThStealthP wrote:

Genre stays as it is.

BuriedUnborn wrote:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Sobre_tus_Cenizas/3540403535

Based on their first album (https://sobretuscenizas.bandcamp.com/al ... us-cenizas) and the few songs I've heard from their latest release, STC could be possibly considered "Technical Metalcore", given the huge amount of riffs, guitar work and overall virtuosity or ambitiousness of their songs.

Changed to Progressive Metalcore.

BuriedUnborn wrote:
Maten al Rey might have started out as heavy/power, but their 2009 album went a hard rock way, and their newest album is straight soft pop rock.

I'd suggest the tag: Melodic Heavy/Power Metal (early); Hard Rock (mid); Pop Rock (later) or Melodic Heavy/Power Metal (early); Hard/Pop Rock (later). Their 2009 release is way heavier than their latest one though.

Some songs:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkYWoreKRYA

Spoiler: show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rot7Y1ra_W4

Spoiler: show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9yI2Lau5Uc

Seems fine for now, not a lot different from the 2009 album actually.
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Witcher wrote:
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As for Death Before Dishonour, I think the proposed variant of tthrash metal/rac, would be fine, for the sake of simplicity. My main point was to get heavy metal from the genre, since this is not traditional heavy metal for sure.
As for Godnightdream, I think ,t hat the genre should containgroove and gothic metal and probaly something else, which would express their influences from other non-metal genres.
These are just my two cents, as the aothor of the original reports. Thanks to whoever proposed any modifications, though.

http://88nsm.com/3438-godnightdream-rip ... -2003.html
http://88nsm.com/5118-death-before-dish ... -2005.html

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Gothic metal, there is nothing gothic rock:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hKYMOWHul8

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Witcher wrote:
Witcher wrote:
Witcher wrote:
As for Death Before Dishonour, I think the proposed variant of tthrash metal/rac, would be fine, for the sake of simplicity. My main point was to get heavy metal from the genre, since this is not traditional heavy metal for sure.
As for Godnightdream, I think ,t hat the genre should containgroove and gothic metal and probaly something else, which would express their influences from other non-metal genres.
These are just my two cents, as the aothor of the original reports. Thanks to whoever proposed any modifications, though.

http://88nsm.com/3438-godnightdream-rip ... -2003.html
http://88nsm.com/5118-death-before-dish ... -2005.html


I agree with the Death Before Dishonour part. They don't sound like a regular heavy/thrash metal band.

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Kennermahn wrote:
I agree with the Death Before Dishonour part. They don't sound like a regular heavy/thrash metal band.


Yes, but the original proposal of thrash/death metal is hilarious. It has elements of thrash, heavy, groove metal and RAC. I do agree that the best route is likely "Thrash Metal/RAC".
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https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ma ... 3540328594

Make Them Suffer's genre should be changed to Symphonic Deathcore (Early)/Symphonic Metalcore (Later). Maybe even the second genre listing should be Symphonic Atmospheric Metalcore or something but they have not been a deathcore band for years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHcrtFx ... PrdBiS1HbI

^Their most recent album for example

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Melodic Deathcore (early);
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Bl ... thin/59352
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJHnVvrBgZw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zLTXwJ7O1w


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Greetings
Carcereduro should have added Oi! to their genre, which should be Folk Metal/Oi!. They feature clear Oi! influences and their sound is clearly different from other "folk metal" bands. They even list themselves as an Oi! band on their Bandcamp.

https://carcereduro.bandcamp.com/track/ ... riomphales
https://carcereduro.bandcamp.com/track/ ... -plus-long
https://carcereduro.bandcamp.com/track/ ... -templiers

Just like Carcereduro, Enhärjarna should have Oi! added to their genre, which should be Folk Metal/Rock/Oi!. Again the same, they don't sound like other folk metal/rock bands and their first album is just an Oi! album, with hardly any metal influences.

https://open.spotify.com/track/4GlseXyfhPiGJZogv4VvcV
https://open.spotify.com/track/38eoeSgA6fJCFBDitUEcx9
https://open.spotify.com/track/1DLHQhFKFWYhJvM0KlIpuZ

Glittertind's genre should be changed to reflect that their early sound featured clear punk influences I believe, I'd leave it as Viking/Folk Metal/Punk Rock (early); Indie/Folk Rock (later)

https://glittertind.bandcamp.com/track/evige-asatro
https://open.spotify.com/track/5SWYmeTF3tOecTEZCTmyK5

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