Technical death metal is not a genre, that here are bands listed as such meamns nothing. They have the technical in decription because they are, well, technical. But it tells nothing more than just like atmospheric, epic and other adjectives describing band's sound.


There is minimum bands tagged just as alternative metal, and they wre tagged so just because there was no better term at the moment. They could get better style description.

Technical is certainly a term that applies to Death's latter day material.

Witcher's suggestion that "Alternative Metal" be avoided as a genre tag is well in line with precedent. When he says that it means "nothing or nu-metal", what is being said is that not only is the term generally not sufficiently bounded to actually say very much about a given band's style, but also that it has in the past more often than not turned out to be code (by coincidence, or some stronger relationship) for "this band doesn't really play much metal." In fact, when we, your oppressors, are recruited, to be wary/distrustful of this (and a few other) genre tag is one of the first instructions we are given. That the tag is nevertheless present here is, as said, representative of a stopgap, and nothing more (in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if quite a few of the groups currently bearing the label ought to be removed for not really playing metal). This thread is ostensibly meant to resolve stopgaps, not propagate them.

I wouldn't say so. The drums and bass are difficult to play, and the songs are longer than usual, but still pretty much straightforward rhythm and structure-wise.

Anyone?

About one of the newly added bands Celeste: they're listed as black metal. If I'm not mistaken, they were rejected before for being too hardcore influenced based on their previous releases (I assume they were accepted because of their newest release). Shouldn't the hardcore influence be listed in their genre? (Myspace for reference.)

Sorry for not posting links with my last post, I didn't have time to find examples.

When I say I feel that Grind is thrown around I'm referring to Death metal(mostly Brutal Death metal) with no hardcore punk or grind influence being called Deathgrind.

Examples:

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=26508
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=5640
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3985

lol Wormed

I don't think that Enforcer from Chicago are accurately described as power metal. Their sound, although it occasionally sounds like an early form of power like Manowar or Dio, just as often sounds quite doomy. Their Facebook cites Black Sabbath as their only influence, which seems appropriate to me since most of their songs seem to be reminiscent of some period of Sabbath or another. I would direct your attention to "Salem's Curse," which is up on their MySpace.

Power metal does seem to fit very well for Enforcer. For an elaborated explanation read the forgottensteel.de review on their Myspace.

edit: the live videos showcase a different style, reminiscent of Solitude Aeturnus and Trouble. I've updated their page accordingly.

In Element should be changed to melodic death metal/metalcore, or perhaps just metalcore. Their music is breakdown-happy, to say the least.

Edit: On listening to their second album, they got less -core. I think it still should be changed to melodic death metal/metalcore, though.

http://www.myspace.com/truedevils
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=12083

Death rock???

I would still call this some kind of metal. Sounds like Gothic Metal/Rock to me.

Death rock seems perfectly appropriate.

I thought it was called "Death 'n' Roll". Or atleast I see that term used more often.

Also, I submitted the band Blood and Thunder a couple days ago and took a second listen to their music and don't really think the "metalcore" tag is necessary.

http://www.myspace.com/bloodthunderband

Yes, it's not very predominant.

Two completely unrelated styles:

death rock/horror rock - Misfits;
death 'n' roll - Entombed's "Wolverine Blues".

Decompose My Darling Daughter: "Technical Death Metal/Grindcore

They're deathcore. Or atleast, that's what it sounds like to me. Definitely not grindcore.

http://www.myspace.com/dmddgore

Aphotic Murder is another band labeled as 'Death Metal/Grindcore", but is just deathcore.

http://www.myspace.com/aphoticmurder

Intestinal Infection (US) should have goregrind added to their genre.

Hi! I'm suggested this once with the flagging style, but now I found out that I did it wrong... Sorry, for being newbie... :/ However, thing what I was saying, was about Sarcófago.

So, the band's genre. Now the genre field says just that "Black / Thrash / Death Metal", however, Sarcófago's style changed many times during their career. Two first albums were first wave black metal, but then style changed very much to something I could describe as technical thrash/death metal. However, that surely was not black metal. After Crush, Kill, Destroy EP style changed again, to death metal, but some songs were actually more likely brutal death metal (especially whole Crust EP). So I propose you change the genre field to:

"Black/Thrash/Death Metal (Early), Technical Thrash/Death Metal (Mid), Death/Brutal Death Metal (Late)"

Or something like that.
First, INRI presents very well their early style: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI1ItXX3QV0
Midnight Queen is then a track which shows their thrash/death days: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrkF-vxOnk0
Crush Kill Destroy is track from same days, but shows their death metallic side: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAgde9WWrVI
And then, from their last album, FOMBM which is (at least in my opinion) quite clearly brutal death metal: http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/mQJz7UMQhwE/default.jpg
However, all their stuff in their last days was not as brutal.

Wikipedia and All Music Guide have quite similar stuff about genres of Sarcófago in their articles about Sarcófago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarc%C3%B3fago
http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sq ... qe5ldhe~T1

Dethroned (US)
http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=53785

Should be changed from "Death Metal" to Death/Doom (early) Raw Black Metal (later)

"Black / Thrash / Death Metal" encompasses all those variations in a neater, less verbose way.

Terminal Lost has a typo in their genre.

Intestinal Infection (US) needs to have "goregrind" added to their genre.

http://www.myspace.com/intestinalinfection

There's nothing black metal about this band, not a single Bm riff on the album. I'd suggest Folk/Melodic Death Metal.
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540277053
http://www.myspace.com/blackguard

How come there's no 'Speed metal' tag for Running Wild?! I mean, their first two/three LPs are classic speed metal albums, and yet there's nothing reflecting this.

whats with the the Modern Rock/Metal tag on Metallica, whats wrong with Heavy Metal/Hard Rock?

Late Metallica doesn't sound like WASP or Budgie, that's the problem.

thats the stupidest thing ive heard from a mod on this site yet, a band has to sound like WASP or Budgie to be tagged heavy metal?, never knew Trivium sounded like WASP

The tag in question is Heavy Metal/Hard Rock, not just Heavy Metal.

Load and Reload were hard rock were they not? and Death Magnetic is pretty much heavy metal with a hard rock song "Cyanide" and a few thrashers

Method (Kor) have started adding in melodic death metal sort of leads into their modern thrash sound. They've always been kind of going in that direction, but until now it was mostly just modern thrash with down-tuned guitars. But, with their new release, I think they've bumped themselves over the edge enough to get a Melodic Death/Thrash Metal tag on M.A.

Check out their new music video to see what I'm talking about:
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... d=59028048

http://www.myspace.com/methodmetal

Also, To My My Last Breath is listed as "Death/Groove Metal", but they've pretty much just gone Death Metal/Deathcore, as far as I can tell. However, I don't really have such an ear for the nuances of that kind of thing...not my kind of music at all. What do you think?

http://www.myspace.com/tmlbreath

Nope.



I think there isn't enough difference between those two tags to even warrant discussion.

It's like "melodic heavy/speed metal" vs. "speed/power metal". Almost impossible to pinpoint where one ends and the other one begins.

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=2902

Semi-technical death metal??? I'd say death metal alone would be enough.

Witchcraft
www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=18938

I really don't hear stoner riffing. I think Heavy Metal/Hard Rock or Doom Metal /Hard Rock would be more fitting.

I'm inclined to believe that Kadenzza is more of a melodic death band than a symphonic black one.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... d=92182564

Wrath of the Girth may have played Stoner Metal/Rock on their demo, but their album has a completely different sound, don't you think?

the red shore from australia is listed as technical death metal/metalcore but instead of metalcore theyre deathcore

same crap.

I think this band:
http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=77041
is the same that this:
http://www.myspace.com/necrowarband
look at the cover pictures here (you can find Necrowar cover at the CD-R section):
http://www.geocities.com/sofrimentoeterno/cat_nab.htm
the same picture can be found in that band's myspace pics, also their city Itaborai is in the state of Rio de Janeiro and that distro says that the band is from RJ,
therefore the genre should be changed to Death/Thrash Metal