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todesengel_hell
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:14 am

I found another crossover band wrongly listed as deathcore:

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=103366
http://www.myspace.com/unfistrife

Should probably be listed as Death/Thrash/Crossover too.

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Fulgurius
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Posts: 1066

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:22 am

Nachtreich:
http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=90386
http://www.myspace.com/nachtreich
I think their current description "Neoclassical Folk/Ambient, Black Metal" is not really fitting. First of all, there's not really folk or ambient, just neoclassical music. Then, there's not black metal, there is metal in their music, but I'd better leave it to mods to decide which kind of metal it is...

Reverorum ib Malacht:
http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=45017
http://www.myspace.com/malachtofficial
http://www.myspace.com/reverorumibmalacht
I don't know why they were submitted in 2005 as "Black Metal", because their first demo is ritual/dark ambient with some black metal influences, the second demo is pure ambient, and the samples from the third demo on myspace sound not much metal as well. So, I think even their presence on this site is questionable. But at least it should be Black Metal/Dark Ambient

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Inhumer
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Location: United States

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:30 pm

Inhumer wrote:

While on the subject of post punk:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=82100
Sounds like plain old heavy metal to me.

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MMisantropo
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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:53 am

all taken care.

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uglur
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Location: Germany

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:42 pm

yansen's genre should be changed to:
"Black Metal/Ambient, Folk"
(the natursang ep is only folk music)

http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540264633
http://www.myspace.com/yansenberlin

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morfumax
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Posts: 651
Location: United States

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:49 pm

Cannibal Corpse is listed as Brutal Death Metal in the archives when it clearly is just plain death metal.

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Folkemon_
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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:33 pm

Kreator.. should there not be something about their albums after Coma of Souls?

Renewal, Outcast and Endorama arent really thrash

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MMisantropo
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:20 am

I personally don't think it's necessary. Most thrash metal bands went through this kind of mid-life crisis, slowing down and flirting with different styles such as groove, punk and industrial. In most cases the band is still recognized as simply a thrash metal band.

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Catachthonian
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 2:08 pm

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=168

Every album since and including "I Hear Black" contained a significant amount of groove metal in its sound, so I think it should be reflected somehow.

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oneyoudontknow
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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:29 am

http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=65873
http://www.myspace.com/decembrance
the genre should be changed. The latest demo is rather gothic/rock (maybe even pop)

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~Guest 193166
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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:41 pm

Last edited by ~Guest 193166 on Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:59 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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Fanfarigoule
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:08 am

All taken care of.

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Mieresch
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Location: Romania

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:44 pm

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=19360

Christian black metal again.

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Carter
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Location: United States

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:20 am

"Death/" can be taken out of this band's genre.

http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=35154

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Mieresch
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Location: Romania

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:24 am

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=117869

Should be changed to Doom Metal, Black/Thrash Metal.

I submitted them as black/thrash based on this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtTLR9fsYpU

It's clearly black/thrash, but it's the band's later stuff. Unfortunately it's the only later song i can find.

But the early stuff was pretty much doom metal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hzmxe5ID ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_Nqac9j ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2DILY52 ... re=related

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uglur
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Location: Germany

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:52 pm

Vandalis' genre should be changed to something like "Power Metal (early), Gothic Rock/Metal (now)"

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=68710
http://www.myspace.com/vandalismetal

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~Guest 193166
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:23 pm

http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=4928

Should read "Brutal Technical Death Metal".

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=23250

The "/" should be taken out.

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=2839
http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=23196
http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=12718
http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540262714

Should read "Death/Goregrind".

Edit: All done.

Last edited by ~Guest 193166 on Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Gravemarker
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:44 am

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540288781

Should be changed to Deathcore.

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~Guest 193166
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:41 pm

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=127120

Should be "Death/Thrash Metal".

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=90753

Should be "Progressive Death/Thrash Metal".

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=13521

Should be "Thrashcore".

http://www.metal-archives.com/search.ph ... type=genre

The extra "/"in these should be taken out.

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=59355

Should probably be just "Power Metal/Folk Metal".

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=106041

The "-" should be removed.

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=17126

Should be spelled out as "Melodic Death/Doom Metal"

http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=457

Should be "Thrash/Groove".

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=8441

Should just be "Heavy/Southern/Thrash Metal".

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MMisantropo
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:16 pm

All taken care.

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Visionary
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Location: United States of America

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:50 pm

Gravemarker wrote:

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540288781

Should be changed to Deathcore.

Yeah listen to Solitary Refinement. Especially the breakdown at 20seconds in. I don't see how there are not enough core elements present to be labeled as death metal.

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taleskiss on Kiss wrote:

They influenced MOST of the metal bands of our days, and they are not part of this site? This is unacceptable!!!
I would like to know why is that???
Because they are not considered metal? This is not fare!!!

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MMisantropo
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 6:54 pm

Please rephrase that, I can't tell what you mean.
Anyway, I hear very little hardcore or grindcore in that band, and possibly no metalcore at all.

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~Guest 193166
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Posts: 1687

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:24 pm

http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=12904

Should be "Melodic Death/Metalcore".

http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=9668
http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=88509

Should be "Doom/Death Metal".

http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=19912

Should be "Folk/Black Metal".

http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=13520
http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=39537
http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=43847

Should be "Doom/Gothic Metal".

Edit: All Done.

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~Guest 193166
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Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:48 pm

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=79062
Should be "Thrash Metal/Hardcore".
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=17541
Should be "Power/Thrash".
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=88530
Should be "Progressive Metal/Shred".
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=78621
Should be "Heavy/Thrash Metal".
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=94519
Should be "Groove/Thrash Metal".
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=50410
Should be "Heavy Metal/Hard Rock".
Edit: All Done

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http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=29756

Should be "Thrash/Speed Metal".

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EntilZha
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:30 am

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=2584
I have a track by that band (from the "Roll the Dice" album) on a compilation, and it sounds like Pantera/Machine Head/etc, certainly not "heavy metal". Dunno if the whole album's like that, though, maybe someone here has heard it.

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AurvandiL
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:51 am

Shallnotkill, listed as Sludge Metal/Post-Hardcore.
I have most of their releases, so reading this tag, I don't know where to start.

Basically, Shallnotkill plays a progressive mixture of fast hardcore, dissonant grind, with some bits that could be considered post-metal/atmospheric sludge/whatever. While it's rather unique and excellent music, it's hardly "Metal" (within the limits described by MA), and the current description is certainly erroneous. Some things just can't be reduced to a fancy tag.

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Helvede
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:16 pm

EntilZha wrote:

Roll the Dice is a mix of their second album (groove thrash), heavy metal and stoner metal with references to C.O.C. and that kind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ESIkSXh2tI

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~Guest 193166
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:43 pm

http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=25825

Should be "Metalcore (early), Melodic Death/'Black' Metal (later)"

Edit: Done.

Last edited by ~Guest 193166 on Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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TheGrimWombat
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:52 pm

Agent Black has opted for power metal style on recent recordings.

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=105672

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~Guest 193166
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:47 pm

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Helvede
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:06 am

ksevile wrote:

Done

Any Trash bands out there? :lol:

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Fanfarigoule
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:29 pm

Since I'm here, I'm only saw one, like 3 years ago.

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~Guest 193166
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:16 pm

So far (Since I've been here) I haven't found any listed as "Trash". But I constantly search for random BS like "Cool", "Fast", "Pure" just to see if there are any. I've actually found one listed as "Satanic War Black Metal". :lol:

Twas, this one.
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http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=50967
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540261668
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=10460
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=46601
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=139
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=19479
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=103814
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=61299
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=210
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=103814

The "/" in these should be replaced with spaces.
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http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=15479

Should be "Brutal Death Metal/Grindcore".
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http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=4375

:lol:

:lol:"Gorey Death/Grind":lol::lol:

Should be "Death Metal/Grindcore".
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http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=34615

Should be "Oi!punk, NWOBHM, heavy metal".
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http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=6229

Should be "Heavy Metal/Deathrock".
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http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3324

Should be "NWOBHM/Heavy Metal".

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MMisantropo
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:11 pm

E.F. Band is a Swedish band, so technically not NWOBHM. And I don't think those slashes should be replaced by spaces.

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uglur
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Posts: 202
Location: Germany

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:18 pm

black metal?:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=124894
http://www.myspace.com/orgyforsatan

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~Guest 193166
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:02 pm

MMisantropo wrote:

And I don't think those slashes should be replaced by spaces.

I do. Here are the results for "Brutal Technical".

http://metal-archives.com/search.php?st ... type=genre

Here are the results for "Technical Brutal".

http://metal-archives.com/search.php?st ... type=genre

As you can see the majority of the bands in those searches have no slashes in them. I think the slashes should be taken out for the benefit of wholeness.

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http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540287213

Should be "Melodic Death/Power Metal".

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DeathFog
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:32 am

If Overkill and Anthrax have their genre defined as Thrash Metal / Groove Metal here, why do Testament have their genre as just Thrash Metal ? The same goes for Exodus.

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~Guest 193166
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:17 pm

http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=43

I think it they should be listed as "Melodic Death Metal/Gothenburg". I know it's already in the additional notes, but I think the genre field should contain it. They are (if not the most) a highly influential band for that specific style. If other bands like In Flames, Arch Enemy, and Dark Tranquillity are tagged like that, then I think At The Gates deserves it even more than they do, and possibly more any other Gothenburg-style bands on here.

:lol:

...And above all they are from Gothenburg, Sweden which makes them more Tr00 if not the Tr00est of all. :lol:

:lol:

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MMisantropo
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:19 pm

I'll ask the admins if we can get rid of Gothenburg as a genre tag.

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MMisantropo
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 3:08 pm

DeathFog wrote:

If Overkill and Anthrax have their genre defined as Thrash Metal / Groove Metal here, why do Testament have their genre as just Thrash Metal ? The same goes for Exodus.

For most of their career, Anthrax has hardly been a thrash band at this point. Overkill has also had a steady streak of groove metal releases for at least one decade.

But for bands such Testament, Kreator, Slayer and even Exodus it would feel excessive to me. I'd compare their groovy experiments to the mid-to-late 80's hair metal/hard rock flirtations by many classic acts such as Saxon, Priest, Savatage, Riot, Jag Panzer, Manowar, etc. Simply put, nobody remembers or cares about it anymore.

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