http://www.freewebs.com/taabut-band/
http://persian-bands.blogfa.com/page/taabut.aspx
Why was this band rejected? They have 2 releases and it's Black Metal!

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I'm not sure whether it's a fake band as there's a pic showing a physical copy of Summoning the Dim (still arguable whether the pic can be considered valid, much care has to be taken with those Iranian bands). What's sure is that the band is not (black) metal. I've heard the three available samples and I can just hear screams/growls with basic drumming on one sample, no real guitars to be heard. The two other ones are ambient tracks. Completely unacceptable.

Then it is clear. By the way, the Cd seems to be real, but I do not think that is an imprint, but a computer created skin over a regular empty CD-r. Looks manipulated.

there is a sweetheart that wants to have his psychedelic rock band in here. He is part of a black metal band and thinks that this alone would legitimise the submission.
I think I got a mail from the band this thread is about, too. The mail was forwared to Piotr and he agrees with me that it looks quite suspicious. I really tent to prefer a band site on which it offers a price and a contact address.

Yeah, that's what I meant. I'm pretty sure the pic has been made up to be accepted here. Otherwise, there would have been some ordering infos on the homepage.

I received a mail too from the band. It's not the first mail I receive asking to submit an Iranian band on MA. They seem to be doing mass mailing to the high-ranked users in the hope to see their bands in. No chance.

Yeah, I also received an e-mail from him, but it was clear that they couldn't be accepted.

As Fanfarigoule said, iranian users are prone to send us personal e-mails if they can't add their bands.

I get from them third mail yestarday...

Looks like to get their band(s) to MA has become the only goal in their life.

An iranian guy added me to yahoo ... he still keeps writing to me every 2 months asking me to submit his drone/doom band which is actually pure noise... i dont even hear any guitars..... Weird people these iranians....

... i guess i wasn't the only one...

If you will know for sure, that an Iranian band has no physical demo and have evidence for it, then feel free to report them or place them in the respective thread. About five Iranian bands here have certainly physical releases, but the rest is highly suspicious, especially Emerna and his black metal projects.

the situation in Iran in terms of metal is quite dire...

I have deleted Nazhand. Apparently no physical releases, only downloads, he often calls single song an "album".
http://nazhand.blogfa.com/

The music is also far from metal, even when he uses electric guitar sometimes.

I know. But they go too far.

What the fuck?

There are physical releases, only they're extremely rare due to being self-released in very small quantities. Not every one of his DEMOS (he doesn't call single song releases 'albums', he recognizes every single one of them as demos) is available to download from his site.

And, mate, if you can't hear metal in Nazhand, then you need to stay as far away from depressive raw black metal / ambient bands as possible, before you make any more damage in the archives.

Then show me some distro with it.

As for the music, most songs are keyboard pieces or in rare cases, something that sound like guitar tuning, with no actual metal riffs.

That is not black metal, that is crap.

Ambient music has nothing to do with metal by the way. It has entirely different genesis and origin.


People, who submit their ambient project to the archives as metal, are doing the worst service to metal possible.

And by which fucking right dare you to judge me? Are you part of the staff? Or at least a valid longtime contributor whose opinion should be at least heard and discussed?

No, you are some anonymous exhibitionist, judging from your post, who should first learn how to behave, before he asks something.

Like i said, it's extremely rare. You'd probably have to contact the guy himself to obtain a real copy of a demo.



Um, no. Listen to Shabe Bi Payan, or download Blackness from his official page. If that ain't depressive raw black, then i don't know what is.



Your personal taste should have nothing to do with this.



Perhaps, but i'm pretty sure Nazhand is not one of them.



Save the ad hominems, please.

That being said, i'm neither trying to judge nor offend you, i implied that maybe you didn't research this band enough before deleting it.

It is up to you, the submitter, to prove that the releases are real. We are not obliged to go searching about for this information. Everything else here is irrelevent and it will not be accepted unless you do so.

For the record, that song "Blackness" is not metal and they will not be accepted on this site if the rest is like that. Neither is Khazan II for that matter.

I didn't submit the band. Surely the person who did, though, must have given some kind of validation about the band being legit. It was on the archives since late 2005.



Oh, so suddenly depressive raw black is not metal. Ok. You do know, though, you'll have to remove thousands of other bands on this claim alone, from the archives, don't you?

Seriously, though, i know what i'm listening to. Perhaps you guys should get a second opinion from a staff member that, you know, actually listens to this kind of music.

This website has many depressive black metal bands. This is not one of them. I am quite certain that any mod you speak to will give you the same answer.

Oh and for the record, since you seem to be so fond of pointing out fallacies:



Nasty strawman you got there.

Un fortunately, some bands were unjustly accepted during the years. This is one of them. How long the band washere means nothing. There were non-metal bands or bands with no releases from 2003 that were deleted recently.

So in any case, the bands is not metal and you do not have any proofs about their releases, yet you start the drama here...
Your speculations about why it was accepted have no value whatsover. We moderators know best from our praxis, how the system works here and how bands get accepted, don't you think?

Well, fair enough, i didn't really come here to start any fights, was more curious about why it was deleted. If i'll come up with any hard evidence about there being legit releases, i'll resubmit myself (with samples).

Search in MySpace for the term 'Black Metal'... I can guarantee that some of the bands would rather surprise you in term of the black metalness.

BM and depressive/suicidal are terms that are used inflationary currently.

No, the band was blacklisted for not being metal. So the releases will not help you. Resubmission is not possible in such case.


They would have to release a whole metal album, which judging from their samples is nearly impossible.

If it sounds like Darkness, it does not fit.

I see. Admittedly, i don't think Nazhand has one single multi-track release that wouldn't be either solo ambient or heavily intertwined with ambient tracks. I'm gonna recheck it's discography.

Please do not recheck anything, leave it be. Those tracks with guitar are not metal at all, as we have explained to you, so there cannot be any talk about intertwining with ambient.

Not entirely, no. There is still the possibility that the band has a full metal release. We're judging from those samples but we do not now the full extent of his material. So if in fact there is an entire metal release, then it is possible that they may be accepted.

A physical release, to be precise.

I can tell you from my experience with Iranian projects, that such possibility is as real as the possibilty, that the Earth will be destroyed by a meteor in the next 24 hours.

Yes yes, of course. I'm only saying to not rule it out entirely. Personally I also think that this will not happen, but who knows.

Alright then, sorry for the hassle. I'll do some research of my own, and if i'll find anything worth your time, i will get back to you.

Oh, I'm from Iran and I know them. The bands like nazhand, nazazel, avinar, shab, emerna, aras and ... did not release anything in physical format nonetheless avinar's music are made by softwares and nazazel music are fake and most of them like to have a band and add it in m-a, I really don't know why they do did like this but its looks like to get their band(s) to MA has become the only goal in their life.
SHAME FUCKING ON YOU PERSIAN FAKE METAL BANDS!

Thanks, very well.
To make things easier, since we have you here, which black metal bands from Iran have actually released something?

Sorg Innkallelse and Hallal apparently did and the other listed bands?

just 4 band:
Abathur
Ekove Efrits "Midwinter Records"
Halla "Nokturnal Transmissions Records"
Sorg Innkallelse "Hexenreich Records"

not more yet.

So all other Iranian bands are sort of fake?

Yes, good question, I would like to know too.

Arashk has certainly physical CDs too, at CD Baby.

No, Witcher ask me 'which black metal bands from Iran have actually released something? ' and I answer 4bands in black metal genre not in other metal gerne(s).
I'm not much more know about other iranian's metal genre(s) but I can scrutiny about them and tell you if you want.

Yes, that would be very kind and helpful of you.

A couple days ago another Iranian band named "Seyhe" e-mailed wanting me to submit them to the achives. He had it set up almost exactly the same way Taabut set up his. This seemed really suspicious to me after the whle Taabut incident. They claim to be "Progressive Death Metal" but actually sound kinda numetal-ish to me. They even claimed to have a physically released single limited to 200 copies in the e-mail they sent me. I was just wondering if you guys had encountered this band as well.

http://www.seyhe1.com/

They emailed me too yesterday, I submitted it but was rejected , normal I guess with all fake bands