List made by Hellblazer:
>>> http://www.metal-archives.com/without-releases.php <<<

In this thread you will find whose sites lack releases. The information were obtained from the additional notes, so they are by no means 100% accurate or complete, but they nevertheless give a good overview over the current status of a good amount of sites at the Metal Archives.

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If you're talking about bands which have some releases listed under "Additional notes" (i.e. the details are unknown), then I'm tending to support this idea.

that is what I am talking about.

it's a good idea in itself, but we also should take into account that some point-hungry users might fabricate some info regarding such releases.

Yes, yes, yes ... perhaps the flagging should be limited to users with a certain amount of points; trust-worthy ones.

I also thought about this 'flag'-whoring-problem and I see the problem. Nevertheless I think that this flaw is outweight by the benefits that can be gained from such a queue/list.

Yeah, but we could also have some trustful users flagging suspicious releases of such kind I think?

Well, if you want a list with only the bands that have release info in the additional notes, it's not really possible to extract that from the database automatically... I can't precisely know what that field contains, you know? I can look for certain words, but that's not really that useful.

Simply a list of bands with no releases though, I can get you that in 5 minutes, if you want. Maybe only those with text in the notes? Let me know.

As for a specific feature for that in V2, I suppose we could generate reports automatically for the bands without releases... then people could fix them, or comment on them.

Would it perhaps be possible that instead of using the additional notes, there could be an option to submit a release without available tracklist, which would appear in the discography in italics? Just a thought.

It would make those releases searchable, too.

Both are good ideas IMO.

Shit, there are near 6000 bands without releases...

OK here, a quick script I put together to list all the bands without releases, with a flag indicating if they have additional notes or not (no real way to know if those notes indicate releases though):
http://www.metal-archives.com/without-releases.php

Have fun, I guess...?




Well, I guess that's an idea, though it might encourage people to submit incomplete releases... but it would still certainly look nicer than album names in the additional notes. We'll see.

Thank you. At least it's giving us a start to that daunting task.

Excellent work Just chekced some site and all have been hits; ie had missing releases.

Well, 6000 entries is by far more than I have imagined, but a challenge at least.

Made it into its own thread, so that more people can see it and perhaps help out.

Definitely.

I'll see how I can help with bands from Russia and CIS.

great update. This is really helpful!


bands that not respond to my requests:
metalcore
christian ones

we need some folks for these.

If you can look for certain words than couldn't you search by the words "also released", "additonal discography" etc and make a same kind of list as with bands compeletely without releases?

I do have one question, HellBlazer: Would you be able to compile a list of all splits and split albums, sorted by when they were added to the site (or even just by ID number)?

I'm trying to think of ways of doing incorrect splits more efficiently. Having something as an automated list may make checking splits easier; no need to use advanced search to look up all of Canada's 96 split albums one day, and then a month later discovering there's 100 split albums, but that in order to find out whether these new ones were correctly added or not you have to go through all 100 to find them.

An all-encompassing list sorted by added date may help us separate those splits that have already been on the site for years, and are corrected, and those splits which have just been added and may need some work.

I fixed Bad Evolution Theory. Woo...

I have the bands in an Open Office spreadsheet now, if someone wishes to have a copy, just PM me and I'll email it. It's not different from HellBlazer's list, but makes searching and sorting a bit easier.

Hellblazer, what about adding the formation year as well? Maybe some people would like to fix older bands.

Btw, the "Go to" button below the page isn't working, only the one on the top.

I found the tracklist for Demon Domain's demo (I incidentally added the band a couple of days ago myself, and thought that someone would take care of that... I'm lazy), and emailed a few other finnish bands, but I also noticed this:

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=114647

and

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=114240

seem to be the same one-man band, and Destructum's discography seems to consist of two tracks that could have ended up on Misanthropenum's Grave Waltz album.

Now, unless we consider two one-man bands with the same line-up releasing a split a valid idea, I think Destructum should be nuked. Especially since the two tracks on their MySpace and Mikseri pages, which I suppose were supposed to be included on the album, are actually not there, at least not according to the user who submitted the album, who in turn seems to be the whole line-up of both bands...

Opinions?

Something could be noted in Grave Waltz's additional notes regarding the "Destructum" project, if it turns out it was in part a valid "Destructum" release (even if just by nomer), but overall I think the conclusion you came to is a fair one.

I've been adding the releases to some Pakistani bands since I joined Metal Archives.

Added the details of this band's first demo (got the track listing from the band's guitarist, he's on my MSN)
http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=128979

Added details of this band's demo too (tracklisting was on their soundclick and their facebook)
http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=43248

Added this band's full length release (tracklisting was on their website, and I had the CD too)
http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=22483

I've added releases on the following finnish bands so far:
Bad Evolution Theory
Demon Domain
Draconia
Haudankaivaja
Necronomium
Pathos Gazette
Valvet

In addition to those, I have a few emails out, and someone else seems to have taken care of BlackOut Corporation.

This is fun for a change. Try it, folks!

it is more important to know which bands have been contacted... once their sites have been updated they will vanish from the list respectively the entry in the additional notes has been removed.

Several active German bands have been contacted by me.

Well yeah, but it's not like there's a standard way to input it so I couldn't possibly catch all the terms used.






I'll look at all that tomorrow.

Wow... that's brilliant, I didn't realize the list is active and real-time that way. Wonderful!

I currently have only finnish bands under inspection, and only Distorted Reality with an unanswered email out (although I got a quick reply and they promised the data), so the rest is game.

I even found a demo tracklist for a band from Puerto Rico.

I confess...Also added release for Lampaanvapahtaja.

Well yeah, but it's not like there's a standard way to input it so I couldn't possibly catch all the terms used.

I think some is certainly better than none.

What about an option to sort the bands by country?

All done.




Well, this is rather irrelevant now since I'm just displayed all bands without releases. The majority of them seem to have notes indicating release names anyway.

A preliminary list of splits: http://www.metal-archives.com/splits-list.php

Yeah, the split name is repeated for each band... piece of shit data model. I'll try to fix that tomorrow, unless it's OK like that.

The first 10 or so pages don't have dates (we didn't log dates in the beginning) but they're still in order due to the release id.

Thank you immensely. This will make finding incorrectly added splits easier.


It is alright as it is. In fact, in a lot of cases it may be helpful that way.

Again, thanks.

EDIT: One thing I did notice, is the page limit always 90? There seems to be some splits from the last few days, which don't show up.

This is a nice initiative and made me want to knuckle down a bit.
All French active MySpace bands got a mail. 73 mails are out. 7 bands without releases less and 9 releases added so far.

Hellblazer: Thanks!

Oneyoudontknow: Can you modify your first post? I would be nice to include Hellblazer`s link, as well as other sorts of information, like Fanfarigoule's last post, so that none else will contact those bands.

Hmm, odd. I'll take a look at it tonight. Sorry, I didn't notice your edit until now.

Sorry, didn't have time yesterday after all. It is fixed now though.

Thank you again. A number of us are already working well through it; it has been helpful.

Can we sticky this?

I messaged a bunch of bands on Myspace and using e-mail if necessary. If they get back to me, I'll update the info.

I also was able to find info for the demo of the band Agony via a blog posting on their Myspace.

I cannot access the list with Seamonkey; the same problem exists with the split list. Firefox works fine though. Any idea why this has happened or what causes the problem?