I guess the queue entry code(and mods) is setup to accept anything that is metal and not whether the person who entered the band actually attached a release to them. What prevents this list from growing?
edit: What prevents Hellblazer's "bands without releases" list from growing in names? (besides manual entry)

The band can be accepted, when we know that it has a release. There is no reson to reject such bands, when the users give us enough proof of that. Otherwise many valid demo bands would be missing.
The point of this thread is to update those bands with releases and gain additional info.

I didn't mean to bring the thread to a dead stop...

The bands without releases list seems like homepage-worthy news to me.

It's tied to the database, so it is automatically updated. This occurs when releases have been added to bands which previously had their releases listed only in the additional notes and the additional notes are cleared of such information (these bands are automatically removed from the list), or when a new band is added to the site, where its releases are only listed in the additional notes (these bands are automatically added to the list).

The latter occurs, as Witcher already stated, because the releases of some bands are known, but at the time of addition to the site, have little known information otherwise (the tracklist of the release, for example, which is required for a release to be added to the site correctly). This occurs typically for demo bands and obscure bands, but also for bands (say, a thrash band that played only in 1985) that have obviously limited information online. These bands are typically known though zines.

This "bands without releases" thread is not unlike the "incorrectly added splits" thread, which can also be found in this forum. The dedicated contributors to this site typically tend to work on both lists slowly - whenever they have the time to do so. Give it time, and this thread may be lively again; that's partly why it is a sticky. Keep it mind also, I suppose, that updating this list doesn't require you to post anything in this thread. You can go ahead and add releases to bands, perhaps (if you're a Veteran) clear their additional notes of such information, and it will be removed from the list automatically. So while this thread may seem dead, it doesn't mean the list isn't being worked on.

I added some information to the site of Mons Veneris. The band does hardly respond and as this one of the overtrve black metal bands and information scare I added some stuff to the additional notes.

Conqueror Worm:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=7458

the band to whom the MySpace link directed to, is a different one, it has therefore been removed. The additional notes have been changed and a contact address added.

The link that shows all bands without a release was just tweaked a bit. Now all columns are sortable and the new listing carries on to all pages (It was bugged before).
http://www.metal-archives.com/without-releases.php

Since October, around 700 bands from that list had a release added. On the other hand, 600 bands were added to it.

Sorting "has notes" is pretty effective. Still two bands hadn't any release nor notes. One had the release listed in the line-up and the other one is gone.

New tweak - Sort by Myspace! Around 1500 bandss have a myspace page and no albums here. Hurry, easy points!

That's a pretty nice tweak, but I don't think it helps all that much in the grand scheme of these things as many of these bands don't have that sort of information on the page. If they did, another user would take notice of that when the band is in the "Newest additions" section on the front page. As for the bands that add that information on their Myspace later on after they're long forgotten, there would be a few of these cases but deeply buried in between the ones that don't (which is the majority).

1. a lot of bands do not respond to mails (less than 10%) or behave like douchebags like a German did quite recently.

2. Users who have submitted a band do not contact this, in case they have a site online, for the information on the releases ... those 'active' ones should be dealt with ... the rest ... time will tell.

Sixty bands had a release added since my first post yesterday.

Reign_of_Praine: If the band has a myspace it means that you can contact them.

Yes, but then again, oneyoudontknow's post must be taken into consideration as very few of these bands actually respond to their mail. Plus, many of them have been inactive for over a year.

the more mails they get the more it is likely to get a response ... this does not mean that I would encourage everyone to open floodgates and drown them in requests now...

Nonetheless, it's better than nothing.

5594 bands without releases

Yay, the numbers are dropping and dropping.

The band Gonorrhea from Indonesia should be removed, because everything is basically unknown on there, no releases are put down except in the additional info, no logo, no band photo, no known members, unknown if its even a band anymore!

There is no such band.

there is, it was just spelled wrong:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=112487

the releases exist:
http://www.dierecords.com/resistance/distrokaset.htm

Oh, sorry my bad.

Eyes of Noctum:

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540286256

Debut album "Coming Soon" according to their official website.

Indeed, it's available nowhere and a recent article on blabbermouth confirmed that it's not released yet. Deleted.
Use this thread for such requests. I admit, though, that this thread's title is somewhat misleading. This thread is dedicated to bands that have releases listed in the notes (without tracklisting), its aim is to have more complete info.

take a note for this band...

http://www.myspace.com/assur666

it have no release, but soon ... member of handful of hate...etc etc..

And the point of your post is...?

I would like to add a link in the additional notes of Intestinal Disgorge to a post in this thread. In this I would post all their part of the missing split releases, so in case someone finds another part, said person can fix it. The list is a bit longer. Opinions?

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=54001
added four years ago to the additional notes (the question mark was added by me):

Released a self produced EP in 2003 called "Distance And Disillusion". They are currently recording (?) an EP entitled "The Acceptance Of Defeat".

Should this be kept? The information cannot be verified via the Myspace site...

edit: I editted the line-up ... I do not want to create the impression the only change was the question mark.

The "They are currently recording (?) an EP entitled "The Acceptance Of Defeat" part should definitely be removed because the rules (on band additional notes) says "No upcoming albums". Also, I can't find any other links or information on this band whatsoever besides another band (an entirely different one) with the same name, their entry here, and the myspace link.

you are right with your remark ... but there is a problem you might not have grasped:

the last edit -- the one before mine -- was done nearly four years ago (!), so matters might have changed over the time and to remove this piece of information would leave the band site incomplete. Unless we have some comment by the band on this issue, such old edits should remain; maybe with a time stamp (added on ... / not verified yet). There are a good deal of old sites which contain such stuff.

a mod/god opinion on how we deal with this would be neat.

Just contact the band.

Sure ... this is what I do, but the success rate is < 10%. (response on e-mail -- the mail is very short and it is easy to grasp what the topic is.. nothing complicated). Mails are easily ignored.

Oh. Well in that case, it's seems perfectly acceptable. Considering 4 years before the last edit, it HAS to have been released, but we can't be too sure about it. As Evenfiel said, try to contact the band about it, if they will even respond. Bands never reply to my emails at all, I haven't got a response from even one of them and I've emailed at least 8-10 bands.

I've always got a reply whenever I've contacted a band with an active myspace account.

I hope this is the right place to post this.
I have sent a submision for a band called SKULLCRUSH from Macedonia. What i didn't send was the proof of existence for a release. So here is the picture : http://i32.tinypic.com/j17epf.jpg
If you know a better place to post this (since i sent the submision without providing this link in it) please let me know.

That belongs in the "Why was band x rejected/deleted?" sticky thread.

let me give you one example:
black metal band from the US. I contacted them and they send me the information on their release (1); promised a free CD; wanted to send me information about pro-CD version (I wanted to buy one) once it is out. They have a side-project; wanted to send information and free CD.

Except for the information on the CD (see 1) never anything happened; mails are ignored. They got (by a different user) a very positive review on their demo... so, no grudge on their site...

one example ...

Please do not add the information about missing releases to the line-up fields. I hope I found all bands that had this 'error'.

on a side-note:
could someone fix the line-up here:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=114804
The Japanese spelling is wrong.

same here:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=62474

Don't know if this is the correct thread but:

The Band Yhdarl (Link) has a total of 12 releases listed on metal-archives, but some of them were never released physically.

So here are the releases listed on MA which should be deleted.
You can proof that on their myspace site (http://www.myspace.com/yhdarl)

Yhdarl - ز EP, 2008
(Released for free on the MySpace Page)

Yhdarl - Ø EP, 2008
(Released for free on the MySpace Page)

Yhdarl - Demo Session - I - Doomsday's Beginning Demo, 2008
(Released for free from the band's MySpace)

Yhdarl - Demo Session - II - Rotten Sonata In A Minor Demo, 2008
(Released for free on Yhdarl's MySpace.)

Yhdarl - Drone Nightmares - II - Buried Burnt Earth Full-length, 2009
(Released for free on the myspace page)

Yhdarl - Demo Session - III - Beautiful Mental Plague Demo, 2009
(Released for free on the MySpace Page)

Yhdarl - Despair, Desolation, Destruction Split album, 2009

Split with the bands Abyssed (Link) and Bleak Emptiness which has been released for free, too.


Here is the Discography from their myspace:

YHDARL DISCOGRAPHY

2007 - A Prelude To The Sickness (EP)
. Cold and Sick Black Metal
. Available on NoiresLitanies
. CD Pro limited 300copies
. 10€ (shipping not included)

2007 - Drone Nightmares - I - Endless Mental Wounds
. Part I of a sequel of drone doom soundscapes only
. Available for free here

2008 - Ø (EP)
. Black Art, Dark Ambiant, Drone, Noise, ...
. Available for free here

2008 - Demo Session - I - Doomsday's Beginning (Demo)
. Mixture of Drone Doom and Black Metal
. Available for free here

2008 - Humainly Sick (Album)
. Suicidal Black Metal meets Drone Doom, pure sickness
. Available through MySpace and Deviant Messiah gigs
. CDr unlimited + Limited edition with bonus tracks limited to 20CDr
. 7€ or 8€ for limited edition (shipping not included). More informations here

2008 - Demo Session - II - Rotten Sonata In A Minor (Demo)
. Suicidal Black & Drone Doom, plus Drone Ambiant morbidness
. Available for free here

2008 - ز (EP)
. Black Art, Funeral Ambiant, ...
. Available for free here

2009 - Drone Nightmares II Buried Burnt Earth
. Drone Doom, noise, ambiant, ...
. Available for free here



So i guess the releases i have listed should be removed from metal-archives. I already reported that, but perhaps i provided not enough sources, nothing was done here (submitted more than 6 weeks ago)

Assuming a band does have physical releases, it should be acceptable to add their digital releases (unless it's simply a simple preview track or something like that) if I'm not mistaken.

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=27374

please take a look at the additional notes:

These look like different bands, so this kind of information is a bit misplaced there. Does anyone know more about them?

edit:
here is some information on them:
http://www.musicmight.com/artist/usa/silent+greene
enough to add them?

edit 2:
http://www24.brinkster.com/usbm/index3.html

now it is getting confusing.

Morwinyon deleted. The Silent Greene demo was never released and the Drykoth rehearsal is "unofficial", which could just as well mean that it never saw the light of day either or that the band gave 3 tapes to their friends. If somebody wants to add Drykoth in the future with proof of release then knock yourself out.

I wish I still had the contact information for these projects. I wouldn't even know where to look now because it's been almost 10 years. The only thing I remember having is an old back-up of the actual list. By the way, I'm glad Bathym is running it again. Him and I always had a good professional relationship, through extensive tape trading and whatnot. I think the only reason he let that other guy run it was because he left for the military.... Though I do find it amusing that the intro to the list is basically 98% unchanged from where I left it in 2001, including the thanks section.