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Tlacaxipehualiztli
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 12:57 pm 
 

We've got another asshole:

https://www.metal-archives.com/users/bi ... opsniffer2

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KingSpooky
The Man, The Machine, The Legend

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Location: United States
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 1:25 pm 
 

Thanks for pointing that out. Banned/mess cleaned.

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Necrodoomicon
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Joined: Sun May 31, 2020 11:36 pm
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Location: United States
PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 9:35 am 
 

I'm an old fart, hopefully I'm not using this wrongly. I noticed these 5 profiles: Burzumgamecube, Chromecanyon, Insomberlain, Shamashfan, TheWailOfSumer are voting hand in hand in Similar bands section. It's probably a sock puppet case. Someone should check this out.

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Azmodes
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Location: Ob der Enns, Austria
PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:48 am 
 

We're looking into it, thanks.
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KingSpooky
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:19 am 
 

CavityCheck - https://www.metal-archives.com/users/CavityCheck
Added some invalid releases with no track listings, and a compilation release with more than 6 bands to a discography, listing only the song that they contributed. Sent a message. May be worth looking at edit history.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:51 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
We're looking into it, thanks.

All banned.
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GuardAwakening
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Joined: Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:35 pm
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Location: United States
PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:08 am 
 

https://www.metal-archives.com/users/Qu ... Metal_6666
Constantly leaving blurbs for every single artist page she comes across like "he plays guitar in [x band]" or "best known for singing in this band, he joined in [year here]" (completely ignoring that theres a big informative tab which already shows that data in the center of every page) she does this in mass amounts as well as adds Facebook links to people's own personal pages. I even deleted a lot of these and then she went right back to adding them again days later

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KingSpooky
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:22 am 
 

Have sent a message about the ones that are redundant/unnecessary.

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Antioch
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Joined: Sun May 01, 2011 4:08 am
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Location: Netherlands
PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 6:55 pm 
 

A mod should probably check the history of Bonziepsycho's modifications of/additions to the "alt spelling" field. 20% of the edits are legit, 80% are redundant if not somewhat nonsensical.
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KingSpooky
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 7:09 pm 
 

Wanted to bring up this user, as well (gone for 5 years already, but some line-ups that they entered in are complete guesswork, totally wrong, and unfortunately are still being found and corrected to this day). If anyone has a chance to double check some of them it may be to the site's benefit:
https://www.metal-archives.com/users/~Guest%20364630
(former name: nikolaiatanasovguitar)
- If the line-up can't be found somewhere else online to verify, better to delete whatever he added in. It's obvious he was just in a rush to fill in blank line-ups with members, whether or not it even came close to being factual.

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Antioch
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2022 3:23 pm 
 

https://www.metal-archives.com/users/WodanSang

Guesswork! No way she'd know some of the line-ups she's added.
E.g. https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/L ... all/112331
E.g. https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/D ... es/1100810
+ many more.

Lotsa cleaning to do.
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KingSpooky
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2022 6:09 pm 
 

Has been given a critical warning. Cleaned up most of it. It looks like this person's edits had started off legitimate, but then moved along to filling in year of first release as formation year, and last-known line-up into full discographies seconds apart from each other, in some cases where the information wasn't available.

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Antioch
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:26 am 
 

Thanks for taking care of this promptly, Spook. :thumbsup:
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KingSpooky
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2022 10:05 am 
 

No problem. I see that they've added some line-ups since the warning. If somebody can double-check their work over the coming weeks it would be appreciated. It was somewhat time consuming and not a great way to spend part of the day, cleaning that stuff up yesterday.
https://www.metal-archives.com/users/WodanSang

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KingSpooky
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:03 am 
 

This user is entering songs randomly found on MySpace and ReverbNation in as the full release and taking guesses at the order of tracks, release year, and format (but will use the title or year on MySpace if given). Somehow thinks that what the band had decided to include on their page was not only released, but that those songs are the full release. No artwork is being used for these fraudulent entries. Seems to think that it was fairly common for completely unknown bands to release CDs in 1986 (which to this day haven't surfaced online). Had caught one a few weeks ago and talked to him about it. Just found another one that is a very blatant example of the same, and looking through the edit history others could very easily be found. Their site contributions should be reviewed, and all of these fake releases deleted. Don't have much faith that the release line-ups being entered in are of any better quality, but haven't checked so am not certain. I'll be giving a warning when I hear back about the one that I just came across, but would be in support of a ban as well.
https://www.metal-archives.com/users/pu ... ng%20metal
(update Jan. 1, '23): Have sent a critical warning, but got a thorough response back and they are now going through their edit history and flagging releases that they now understand to be invalid.

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7fkhbiopuyjkc
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Joined: Sat Dec 31, 2022 11:02 pm
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 2:31 am 
 

I've just made a mistake by adding lyrics into the identifier section but I'm unable to undo it, not sure where else to post this...

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EpicDismemberment
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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:24 am
Posts: 863
Location: Thailand
PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:47 am 
 

Fixed.

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BuriedUnborn
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Joined: Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:01 pm
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:59 am 
 

User Mole666 has been making a ridiculous amount of individual edits on the Alice in Chains page just to add minor details, as well as for other bands it seems.

https://www.metal-archives.com/history/ ... and/id/753
https://www.metal-archives.com/users/Mole666
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Dembo
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:29 am 
 

https://www.metal-archives.com/users/somber%20wounds

So far has only modified what's supposedly his own band, but he clearly doesn't understand or care about acceptable formats such as not writing nonsense in the additional notes, giving the album Gayya the title "GAYYA 2023 ALBUM", writing release year in the version description, writing the band name in all the song titles. Strangest of all though: adding releases as activity periods.

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ᴎostalgiʞK
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Joined: Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:27 pm
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Location: Argentina
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:09 am 
 

I'm pretty sure Somber Wounds is doing this unintentionally, as you said, he clearly does not understand, he is just a
a newbie in MA. All caps text are always hilarious tho...
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KingSpooky
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:56 pm 
 

ᴎostalgiʞK wrote:
I'm pretty sure Somber Wounds is doing this unintentionally, as you said, he clearly does not understand, he is just a
a newbie in MA. All caps text are always hilarious tho...

Message sent.

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nightbreaker33
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Location: Greece
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:57 am 
 

Ok now. What the hell is this?

https://ibb.co/YQP73Rs
https://ibb.co/zSCT1rh
https://ibb.co/xL250k7

The video link on the album description redirects to a kid's song.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:28 am 
 

Just some spam. Cleaned up and banned.
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KingSpooky
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:00 am 
 

Someone sent me a message about this user. They've been entering in guesswork line-ups. Just sent a critical warning, since it's happened more than once in a short amount of time. Might be worth looking into the edits they've made, and if possible please also help to make sure that it doesn't continue.
https://www.metal-archives.com/users/Zmora

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Dembo
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 6:20 pm 
 

https://www.metal-archives.com/users/Vilhais
Adds label links on band pages that don't lead to pages about the particular bands, just index pages.

EDIT: Looks cleaned-up though.

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Antioch
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:18 pm 
 

https://www.metal-archives.com/users/WollSmoth

A pest.
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KingSpooky
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:50 pm 
 

Thanks. Woll and a short-lived comeback were banned, and mess cleaned. Maybe children's day care let out early today?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 3:43 pm 
 

Haha. Good riddance.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:47 pm 
 

The Tim Aymar R.I.P. has cause as food poisoning. Although he did complain about food poisoning a few days ago, nothing has been confirmed as of yet.
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Metallum22
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:05 pm 
 

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Wa ... 3540512284

On the page of Walpurgisnacht (Unknown) is this moderation warning:
"Reminder: Don't enter in the location of Michigan or Hell, Michigan without hard evidence that it's where the band is from (not what is placed in their Bandcamp page location as a gimmick)."

The user DieZeitgeist added in Michigan anyway.
https://www.metal-archives.com/users/DieZeitgeist

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Midnightwards666
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 6:33 pm 
 

I sent them a notice and referred them to KingSpooky's thread.
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Tlacaxipehualiztli
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 3:55 pm 
 

Another one to ban:

https://www.metal-archives.com/users/Triptych_dp

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KingSpooky
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:05 pm 
 

https://www.metal-archives.com/users/G1_Batterista (formerly banned user https://www.metal-archives.com/users/DEGODRUMMER) - entering lyrics one-by-one. Ignored Tlacaxipehualiztli's warning about it on March 1st. Sent a follow-up critical warning today (read). Should be banned if it continues.

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eviluus
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:29 am 
 

KingSpooky wrote:
https://www.metal-archives.com/users/G1_Batterista (formerly banned user https://www.metal-archives.com/users/DEGODRUMMER) - entering lyrics one-by-one. Ignored Tlacaxipehualiztli's warning about it on March 1st. Sent a follow-up critical warning today (read). Should be banned if it continues.


Well, this issue in general is a bit complicated. Please have a look at this example:

1) User adds a line-up to an existing release. It includes 4 band members. User gets 4 points.
2) User adds lyrics to an existing release. It's 10 tracks. User gets 1 point.

Adding lyrics is much more time consuming, often it needs manual typing. I'm not trying to justify or to support violation of current rules, but - to a certain point - I can understand the approach of some users acting like described above.

Perhaps unification of received points (10 lyrics added to the same release = 10 points) could stop this activity being right now considered as point whoring.

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KingSpooky
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:50 am 
 

The problem in this case is partially that the lyrics being entered in are copy-pasted from studio releases that already have the lyrics typed out, being added to live versions of the same songs one-by-one. While personally I think that manually typing out lyrics for a song is easily worth a point, ignoring Tlac's warning was the bigger issue in this case (that I was sent a message about). The warning and post here was what seemed like the best solution.

Your suggestion is good and definitely worth getting some more opinions on, though. In the lyrics thread of the forum, it was established that since they're pending manual transcription it's fine to do them one-by-one.

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Midnightwards666
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:58 pm 
 

If your new system of point distribution for lyrics could be implemented I would support it. Rules are rules, but I am far more lenient with any users adding lyrics one by one than lengths - they usually do it for convenience rather than points. Certainly, if they're added days apart. A few times I have held back typing out lyrics as I may have enough energy to type out one or two, but not the whole lot. I wouldn't want to type a few each day on a Word document in preparation to add all at once, then someone else adds them just as I'm very close to finishing. Or we just relax the lyrics policy in general.

Definitely worthy of more opinions and discussion.
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aloof
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:32 am 
 

5-10 years ago, i would have gone for a policy where a user who typed out lyrics from a booklet gets more points than someone who simply copy pasted from bandcamp.

now, where there are wesbites that "read/copy" text from scans or photos in seconds, i think one point is ok. maybe two, if someone copy pasted lyrics to a 15-track album or so...

just my 2 cents.
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eviluus
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:50 pm 
 

aloof wrote:
5-10 years ago, i would have gone for a policy where a user who typed out lyrics from a booklet gets more points than someone who simply copy pasted from bandcamp.

now, where there are wesbites that "read/copy" text from scans or photos in seconds, i think one point is ok. maybe two, if someone copy pasted lyrics to a 15-track album or so...

just my 2 cents.


Same goes with line-ups - you just pick artist from the list verifying it with album booklet or other reliable sources. But then you get number of points equal to number of added artist. Same story, but different approach.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 10:02 am 
 

adding lineups should be exclusive to more seasoned/"proven" users, imho. there's more new users adding guesswork lineups than valid ones... and thats grossly problematic for a site pertaining to be accurately informative. anyway.

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https://www.metal-archives.com/users/Zyzol77 has acquired a lot of points by changing bandcamp links to include the /music bit, which in my opinion is unnecessary. pardon me if it has been ruled otherwise, i dont keep up with the site as much as i used to...

he also removed some themes: https://www.metal-archives.com/report/view/id/822865
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KingSpooky
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 11:02 am 
 

I agree that album line-ups should be entered in only by trusted users. So many of them are carelessly filled in, often being based on assumptions (if even). It would be much better for them to be left blank until they can be dealt with and added in by someone who will do the job right. It causes problems/confusion with member timelines in addition to being a quick and easy false point for someone to pick up in 5 seconds, while checking the work would often take several minutes. Some of them don't get noticed until years later, and there was wrong information being presented here for all that time.

As for Zyzol77, I brought the user up before in Discord. For some reason no one responded about it, though. A quote from December 2020's "couple of things" main site news post:
"Furthermore, please add Bandcamp links in the form of bandname.bandcamp.com".

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