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kimiwind
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:54 pm 
 

Alhadis wrote:
... telling me shit I already know?

The shit wrote:
Adding song lyrics or song lengths one by one. Just don't even think about it. We'll know

Wow :)

Alhadis wrote:
You misinterpreted my actions so far out of context
Nop, i never did though, until i got tired of seeing each newest added band page with lenghts for 1/2 to 3 songs out of shitload in each release. I see alot of such cases daily and i try to overlook this stuff since it does not harm the site. But when it turn to theatrical point whoring, those must learn that this site is not a race. Unfortunately, your case was much more of a public one.
Alhadis wrote:
Tell you what: why not spend less time perving on other users and more time actually making a contribution to the site yourself?

Hahaha. Oh my :p :lol:
Alhadis wrote:
I add the track durations "1 by 1" because I'm scrounging all sorts of sources.
Yes, "1 by 1" with generally several hours in between. Just desperate to nitpick, aren't you?

In fact, instead of arguing, you better keep quite. If you are willing to improve the site, this shit would never matter, isn't? You are in an awkward situation, and better for you to keep going and learn from your faults. Everyone is susceptible to blunder somehow and break the rules, but the clever ones learn from these mistakes instead of arguing and fabricating useless accusations and arguments.
I'm done here. 'Keep on contributing, good luck"


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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:59 pm 
 

Sorry for arguing then. :(

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kimiwind
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:16 pm 
 

Alhadis wrote:
Sorry for arguing then. :(

Nah, it's alright man :). I sent you a little pm. Cheers.

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Haat888
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:29 am 
 

Hi

Is it possible to stop this moron called Alhadis from "vandalizing"/adding shit on the band page I create?

For Nucleador demo as label I added "Independent" like on all my submissions and this idiot changed it to "self-released" .... 0 difference at all

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:47 am 
 

Independent, self-released, does it make a difference? :|

But hey, sure. I'll gladly make a note to stop doing that. :) Since you asked so nicely.

[EDIT: Since it sounds like you noticed this a while ago, there was nothing stopping you from PMing me and mentioning it in the first place. :roll:]

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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:05 pm 
 

Alhadis wrote:
Independent, self-released, does it make a difference? :|

So why did you change it then? Since there is no big difference.

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MutantClannfear
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:45 pm 
 

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:20 pm 
 

Yeah, true. :| I only did it because "Self-released" seems to be more common, so I thought that was the more accepted convention.

*shrugs* In either case, I don't think I ever modified a release without adding missing data at the same time (e.g., the track durations mentioned earlier. >_>). Typically, if I saw "Independent" while adding durations, I'd change it to "Self-released" just to be pedantic.

But since it seems this is bothering some people, I'll stop. ^^ I'll admit I made a mistake - again, but that's why pencils have erasers.

(Now Haat, see... all you had to do was ask nicely. :p Reetkever.)

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:25 pm 
 

what is the difference between these?

http://metal-archives.com/release.php?id=274961
http://metal-archives.com/release.php?id=283458

merely a re-release or is there more?
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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:23 pm 
 

Re-releases shouldn't be added separately. The appropriate way of handling that would've been sticking this in the release's additional notes:

Quote:
<i>Re-released as a Mini LP on September 14th 2010 by Heavy Artillery Records with the following tracklist:

1. Chainsaw Champion (05:57)
2. Locked On (04:52)
3. Spellcaster (06:36)
4. Chainsaw Champion (Live) (05:46)
5. Power Rising (Live) (04:37)

Re-release limited to 200 hand-numbered copies.</i>

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MutantClannfear
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:32 pm 
 

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OzzyApu
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:46 pm 
 

I think whiteravengiron added bootlegs to the Running Wild page. He's the latest guy to have changed the Running Wild page and I checked on his activities with the link at the OP and he didn't change anything on the main page notes, so he must have added releases.

I checked on the Running Wild official page and all four releases that he put up there - Soldiers of Hell single, Live at Giants of Rock VHS, the Sinister Eyes single, and the Pirate Songs 1991-2002 compilation - are not officially recognized by Running Wild.

I already reported the Sinister Eyes single and Witcher deleted it - that was a day or two ago. This whiteavengiron guy comes and adds FOUR releases INCLUDING the recently-deleted Sinister Eyes single.

Here's the official RW page http://www.running-wild.de/html/single.html that you can scroll through and see for yourself. None of what he put up is a recognized release, which means that it's either a bootleg or completely unofficial but forcefully pressed (think the Gull version of the first two Judas Priest albums), and I highly think they are bootlegs.

Please see to this issue, as I already filed a report on the RW page.
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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:05 am 
 

MutantClannfear wrote:
Technically, aren't re-releases okay if they're re-recorded, like Meshuggah's album <i>Nothing</i>?


*taps lip* Technically... yes. In which case, it often varies. Most of the time, if a release has been re-recorded and re-issued with a different tracklist, it's usually more acceptable to make add a separate release (typically with a note in the re-release explaining <i>"Re-recording of {earlier_release}"</i>).

In which case, the re-recording probably shouldn't have something like "(New Version)" or "(Re-recording)" appended to it, unless it actually happens to be part of the album's official title.

For a band like Spellcaster though, it might've been more acceptable to have the re-release info added to the first demo's additional notes... although this happens to be a real grey area, TBH. Either way, I'd just leave the albums the way they are now... if in doubt, change nothing. xD

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Zorg85
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:28 pm 
 

user "ThrasherPig" is adding stupid lyrical themes on various band pages

ex: Lunatic Terror: Anti-Christianity , Social Themes

Reading the track titles I don"t see how anti-christianity can be found

other bands he updated recently

Human Hate (Bra) (Violence Death and Social Struggles)
Uzjal
Sinister Minister (social themes again)
Lairig Ghru
Christhanasia
Slaughterhog
Apocalyptic Salvation
Soturnos (Violence, Death again..)
Mental Agony
Hellbender (Swe)
Intergracia

etc

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:30 pm 
 

Note:

Gore from France
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=37083

is not a side project by Luc Mertz, like it is stated on this site:
http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/gore_f2
This is confirmed by the band. So, in case someone changes this, remove this kind of information... or should this be added to add.-notes?
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Dr_Keloid
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:56 am 
 

oneyoudontknow wrote:
http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/gore_f2

I've submitted a profile edit on RYM. Thanks for the info.

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:19 am 
 

Dr_Keloid wrote:
oneyoudontknow wrote:
http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/gore_f2

I've submitted a profile edit on RYM. Thanks for the info.

great ... the RYM site was changed ... :beer:
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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:43 am 
 

http://metal-archives.com/userprofile.p ... Cyberquake
seems to be unable to read and added a release, which was merely uploaded at Jamendo these days, as an EP to the band site again:
http://metal-archives.com/release.php?id=288441
and of course he ignored the information uploaded at Jamendo on this release ... congratulations.
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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 6:43 pm 
 

That's not pointwhoring, just lack of attention.

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:35 pm 
 

Okay, in case anybody else has noticed the flood of "Colour/Color" band updates on the front page at the moment, that's just me adding Alternate Spellings to the bands whose profiles didn't happen to include alternatives for American/Rest-of-the-world English.

I was reminded when I couldn't find "Colonise the Rotting", and noticed they were using Yanklish for their band name. :roll:

(Blame America, not me)

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todesengel_hell
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:59 am 
 

Alhadis wrote:
Okay, in case anybody else has noticed the flood of "Colour/Color" band updates on the front page at the moment, that's just me adding Alternate Spellings to the bands whose profiles didn't happen to include alternatives for American/Rest-of-the-world English.

I was reminded when I couldn't find "Colonise the Rotting", and noticed they were using Yanklish for their band name. :roll:

(Blame America, not me)


I didn't think that those were supposed to be added
http://www.metal-archives.com/board/vie ... hp?t=66603

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:21 am 
 

todesengel_hell wrote:
Alhadis wrote:
Okay, in case anybody else has noticed the flood of "Colour/Color" band updates on the front page at the moment, that's just me adding Alternate Spellings to the bands whose profiles didn't happen to include alternatives for American/Rest-of-the-world English.

I was reminded when I couldn't find "Colonise the Rotting", and noticed they were using Yanklish for their band name. :roll:

(Blame America, not me)


I didn't think that those were supposed to be added
http://www.metal-archives.com/board/vie ... hp?t=66603


I didn't either, but the search function doesn't distinguish between American English and International English. Does for accented characters, but somebody searching for "A Color Cold Black" wouldn't have found anything.

If the search engine adjudicated between Yanklish and Proper English, there wouldn't have been a need to add the Alt spellings. ._.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:33 am 
 

Alhadis wrote:
todesengel_hell wrote:
Alhadis wrote:
Okay, in case anybody else has noticed the flood of "Colour/Color" band updates on the front page at the moment, that's just me adding Alternate Spellings to the bands whose profiles didn't happen to include alternatives for American/Rest-of-the-world English.

I was reminded when I couldn't find "Colonise the Rotting", and noticed they were using Yanklish for their band name. :roll:

(Blame America, not me)


I didn't think that those were supposed to be added
http://www.metal-archives.com/board/vie ... hp?t=66603


I didn't either, but the search function doesn't distinguish between American English and International English. Does for accented characters, but somebody searching for "A Color Cold Black" wouldn't have found anything.

If the search engine adjudicated between Yanklish and Proper English, there wouldn't have been a need to add the Alt spellings. ._.

The alternative name should only be added , if the band released something under that name or it appeared on their merchandise. Otherwise everything with a caution. If you are not sure, you can ask Evenfiel, if it will help or not.


What would be useful is to help to delete useless abbreviations, that some clueless users add as alternative names, even if the band has released nothing with such abbreviation on cover.

08. What about all those bands with acronyms as an ANS?
Most of them are useless and should be removed. While it's true that some bands, especially more famous ones like Children of Bodom, Cradle of Filth and Stormtroopers of Death, are also known by an acronym, like CoB, CoF or SOD, that is not the case with the majority of bands that have composed names. You can remove such acronyms at your own discretion.

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:28 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
What would be useful is to help to delete useless abbreviations, that some clueless users add as alternative names, even if the band has released nothing with such abbreviation on cover.


Don't worry, already been on the lookout for that too; any band whose name matches three words or less isn't going to warrant a three-letter ANS.

Think I recall one band having an ANS that wasn't mentioned *anywhere* on its profile, or MySpace, or Google... in fact, there was no record of it being used anywhere.

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:32 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=287997
is an invalid release. Someone added the translation of the band name into the alternative spelling field and then a release from a different Russian band under the English name was added:
http://www.jamendo.com/de/artist/Hammer_of_Witches
There is no indication that both bands are somehow related and as such, the 2010 release should be deleted.
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Fulgurius
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:30 pm 
 

oneyoudontknow wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=287997
is an invalid release. Someone added the translation of the band name into the alternative spelling field and then a release from a different Russian band under the English name was added:
http://www.jamendo.com/de/artist/Hammer_of_Witches
There is no indication that both bands are somehow related and as such, the 2010 release should be deleted.

Yes, that's completely different band. The release was added by TrueMetalist, but it's rather mistake than point-whoring.

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Jakko
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:52 am 
 

user "Dna_Evol_Vintage" is adding stupid lyrical themes on different bands

"Life" nearly everywhere

Sadness
Metal ...

Ancor
Hell Patrol (Pol) => METAL (just because demo title has the word Metal)
Cartesian Other = war
Red Machete: Life
Endless Nights: life, love

and others

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Jakko
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:57 am 
 

you can check here all the shit he recently added

http://www.metal-archives.com/last-edit ... ol_Vintage

Condition Red => alternate name C.R.

:rolleyes: awesome

Goat Evil => Goat Evil 666

shall we add 666 to all BM bands??

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:09 am 
 

Jakko wrote:
you can check here all the shit he recently added

http://www.metal-archives.com/last-edit ... ol_Vintage

Condition Red => alternate name C.R.

:rolleyes: awesome

Goat Evil => Goat Evil 666

shall we add 666 to all BM bands??

no, for the Christian ones you add 777.
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Zorg85
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:11 pm 
 

This guy keeps adding shit...

I don't know what are his sources for Dirtnapp & Hell Tanner formation dates

Or he's randomly adding the year based on the 1st album release

same for Difenbachia: demo 1994 => band formed in 1994.... sources?? 0 ..

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kimiwind
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:27 pm 
 

Zorg85 wrote:
This guy keeps adding shit...

I don't know what are his sources for Dirtnapp & Hell Tanner formation dates

Hell tanner formed in 1993 :lol:
I can confirm that hell tanner wasen't formed in 93! I personally know 2 of the band members, and no one has confirmed me when the band started first exactly. This man must be joking, huh.
Quote:
Or he's randomly adding the year based on the 1st album release

Absolutely.

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~Guest 152635
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:35 pm 
 

Wow, he wrote "Dif(f)enbachia is a flower." in the line-up field: http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=88345

Someone really wants to be a veteran :durr:

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Napero
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:40 pm 
 

400 points nuked.

The next step is dursting.
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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:16 am 
 

Next step taken.

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~Guest 152635
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Ignore this post
:oh shit:


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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:58 am 
 

UndeadIdiot wrote:
Another thing is that he added the album's name to the alternate name field here


Whoa dude, slow down there. Suthida uses that name on her site, her band profiles, and just about everywhere where she's credited herself. I did my research, and she goes by "Journey to Truth"... in fact, I wasn't even sure whether to report her as having an incorrect band name. Check her website, or her YouTube. Or her MySpace. She's used "Journey to Truth" as her moniker for all of them.

Many of the updates you're showing are updates of misencoded characters - typically Polish or Cyrillic where accented letters have been mangled with punctuation instead. Google cached the pages when the spellings were still encoded properly... in fact, I remember consulting Google's cache a couple of times just to find the proper spellings.

I'll find another example after I've finished presenting my testimony for doing too much too quickly. D:

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~Guest 152635
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:02 pm 
 

Oh, okay. I just figured you added the total times to all of them as I had noticed you did to two bands I submitted.

And I am sorry about the alternative name. I only had checked the myspace..

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:02 pm 
 

Okay, found an example of why it looked like I was making so many identical updates (except I'm not changing this one for obvious reasons)

Łamacz Kości:
http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=49185

Origin: Bia³a Podlaska.

Google Cache::
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... =firefox-a
Origin: Biała Podlaska


... now, why is it correct on Google? Beats me. But what you're seeing there is pretty much all I was fixing.


UndeadIdiot wrote:
Oh, okay. I just figured you added the total times to all of them as I had noticed you did to two bands I submitted.


Oh nah, all good mate. :)

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Zorg85
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:33 pm 
 

please eradicate user "seba323232"

check all the shit he added: same band names in the former/alternate name field + some different band names which are totally fake (Abysmal Forest Dark forests)

please have a look http://www.metal-archives.com/last-edit ... seba323232

and then remove all the updates he did

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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:51 pm 
 

Banned.

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