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Timshel
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:19 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
*sigh* I check this thread too infrequently. As per usual, repost if there are any unanswered inquiries up to this point, it's becoming chaotic to sort out.


Heya! I have four other posts requesting that Ghostbound be re-evaluated but no one has answered me just yet. In any case, we play a brand of atmospheric metal with nods toward post punk, black metal, and a bit of prog. We are signed to ATMF/A Sad Sadness Song along with Forgotten Woods, Deadly Carnage, et cetera, and we just released our debut full-length. We fall into the realm of "post" black metal in the vein of Alcest, Heretoire, Vaura, et al. See "Roof and Wall" for reference to our perceived "metal-ness".

fsssdtp.bandcamp.com/album/all-is-phantom

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:33 pm 
 

Apologies for the phlegmatic process. The blacklist note from June this year says it's primarily post-rock with few metal elements. I think it's more borderline than that note gives it credit for, but overall I agree that it's more focused on prog/post-rock than actual metal riffing.
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Timshel
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:16 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
Apologies for the phlegmatic process. The blacklist note from June this year says it's primarily post-rock with few metal elements. I think it's more borderline than that note gives it credit for, but overall I agree that it's more focused on prog/post-rock than actual metal riffing.


No worries! Thank you for getting back to me all the same :-)

Regards,
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terrorWsrom
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Joined: Mon May 05, 2008 1:42 pm
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Location: Poland
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:32 pm 
 

Hi, I've just wanted to add a band Deathreat from Poland, but it turned out it is blacklisted. I suspect it comes to their "metalness" (?), but imo they play a mixture of death metal and d-beat and are metal enough for this site. Besides, their minialbum was released by a metal label and the band consists of some guys who play in other metal bands that are quite known in Poland (Terrordome, Mord'A'Stigmata, Blaze of Perdition).
https://youtu.be/E_9kpa1wL64
Is it possible to whitelist the band?

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SF01
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Location: Poland
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:50 pm 
 

SF01 wrote:

Blacklisted for being industrial. At a glance, this album doesn't sound like metal either.

Then please do not "glance", rather review it all. Rammstein is "industrial", khost sounds like industrial death.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:14 am 
 

SF01 wrote:
SF01 wrote:

Blacklisted for being industrial. At a glance, this album doesn't sound like metal either.

Then please do not "glance", rather review it all. Rammstein is "industrial", khost sounds like industrial death.

This is not metal, blacklisting stands.

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SF01
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:23 am 
 

OK, if you say so.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:54 am 
 

terrorWsrom wrote:
Hi, I've just wanted to add a band Deathreat from Poland, but it turned out it is blacklisted. I suspect it comes to their "metalness" (?), but imo they play a mixture of death metal and d-beat and are metal enough for this site. Besides, their minialbum was released by a metal label and the band consists of some guys who play in other metal bands that are quite known in Poland (Terrordome, Mord'A'Stigmata, Blaze of Perdition).
https://youtu.be/E_9kpa1wL64
Is it possible to whitelist the band?

No, this is predominantly crust/hardcore.
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terrorWsrom
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:32 am 
 

OK, thanx anyway.

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mdp
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:01 am 
 

Hey - was just going to submit my band, 3 Parts Dead, and got a message that we were blacklisted. Was just curious why that was? Could totally understand if based solely off of our first EP, but I would think our second, Master, would qualify. I'd invite you to give a listen to it at www.3partsdead.com or 3partsdead.bandcamp.com and reconsider.

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OpsiusCato
Mexican Metal Inquisition

Joined: Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:42 am
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:15 pm 
 

mdp wrote:
Hey - was just going to submit my band, 3 Parts Dead, and got a message that we were blacklisted. Was just curious why that was? Could totally understand if based solely off of our first EP, but I would think our second, Master, would qualify. I'd invite you to give a listen to it at http://www.3partsdead.com or 3partsdead.bandcamp.com and reconsider.

Blacklisted in mid 2014 for being predominantly Rock-oriented. Have you released anything since that could warrant a reevaluation?
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cranial crusher
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:39 pm 
 

Hello,

Why was Anesthesia of Beer (Brazil) blacklisted?
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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:58 pm 
 

cranialcrusherabc wrote:
Anesthesia of Beer (Brazil)

There's no blacklist note. It must be very old. If you consider they shoudl be reassesed, please post it here.
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cranial crusher
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:14 pm 
 

It definitelly deserves a reevaluation, considering basically any of their releases:

https://anesthesiaofbeer.bandcamp.com/
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mdp
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:39 pm 
 

Thanks for the reply Opsius. We put out another EP last year, Master, that I think might merit a listen.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:51 am 
 

3 Parts Dead: Even if it was acceptable, that's only a short EP. As it is, it sounds more like stoner/hard rock anyway.

Anesthesia of Beer: Whitelisted.
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cranial crusher
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:47 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
Anesthesia of Beer: Whitelisted.


Thank you, bro. I'll soon resubmit it.
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6Toxic6Beer6
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:21 pm 
 

Why is Heilung blacklisted?

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:59 am 
 

"pure ambient with a few folk-ish wind sections"
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Astio_k
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:29 am 
 

Uhm.
I'm surprised the italian progressive metal band (often classified as ''gothic metal'' band, but isn't my opinion) Ravenscry isn't listed in this huge Encyclopaedia.
I found an old argument dated 2012 in this eternal topic, but isn't clear the reason they was banned.
Since then, they have released two more albums, and I'm considering them absolutely metal band with a personal style.

Look here : [ https://www.discogs.com/it/artist/2711174-Ravenscry ].

My favourite album is the second, ''The Attraction of Opposites''. Listen, for example, the songs :
the first track ''Luxury of a Distraction'' [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsdpVGA3Yjs&list=PLEFVinPL7Q-PJgk4SLbAUYqhTb-fiquaS&index=1 ],
the powerful ''The Big Trick'' [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rJh0eIxCuo&index=5&list=PLEFVinPL7Q-PJgk4SLbAUYqhTb-fiquaS ],
the symphonic ''Alive'' [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRsIF4ceuDM&index=4&list=PLEFVinPL7Q-PJgk4SLbAUYqhTb-fiquaS ] ...
and more.
{ U can find a lot of material in the official YouTube channel : [ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCo0dFknrB9cPd84EP28R5-A ] }.

They was partecipating to several metal festival as Power Prog & Metal Fest at Mons (Belgium), Autumn Moon Festival at Hameln (Germany), Milady Metal Fest at Mantova (Italy) ...;
Just this year, they was supporting the Angra's Omni Tour 2018 (opening 12 live act in european big towns), and special guest in the Kobra and the Lotus Prevail Tour Europe 2018 (7 live acts + 3 last november, 2017).

Please check them, I think they aren't ''pop'' or ''dance'' at all.

;)

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:50 pm 
 

Ravenscry discography on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4tLnmxO1rdlxWcEXXMds8a
Full album on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPXbDYM4yyo

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MalconInTheMETAL
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:10 pm 
 

BastardHead wrote:
Believe me when I say BTBAM has been approached from all angles, and no album from a band as popular as them has somehow flown under our radar. :p


Thanks, that's all I really wanted to hear. And trust me, after their latest release, Automata II, I can really see why they have ultimately been rejected.

BastardHead wrote:
And hell, even if that wasn't the rule, isn't half of that album non metal covers anyway? They wouldn't even pass even if that loophole was open! :p


Hahah... good point ; P

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Amber Gray
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:06 pm 
 

my group Noosefiller was understandably rejected after our debut, but our last two releases definitely warrant reconsideration, especially our new one, progressive black metal in the way of Thantifaxath and Gorguts https://noosefiller.bandcamp.com/album/noosefilller
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bartok6969
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:00 pm 
 

Hi. I tried to add my band Conveyor, and it was rejected because there was existing one. I tried to do this earlier, but it was rejected too, and I accidentally deleted. After I tried to add it once again, there was an information that in the queue there is a Conveyor from Puławy, but I deleted this one and added once again, but that first version is deleted, and it not exist in my band list, so it can't exist in the queue too (in my opinion)! Can you explain me why this is happening?

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Zaephar
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:40 am 
 

Why Green Dragon is blacklisted? Take a look: https://wearegreendragon.bandcamp.com/a ... een-dragon

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LeroyNajatahn98
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 4:52 am 
 

As far as I know, Blessed By A Broken Heart meets enough of the "metal" requirements. Does anyone know why they were rejected?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X9UT4TT9P ... H3&index=3

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MutantClannfear
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:16 am 
 

I saw Dreadnought (US) last night and came to MA and was somewhat surprised they aren't here. They haven't been brought up in this thread since 2015, but they have a 2017 album which came across as predominantly progressive doom/black metal both when I heard it live and on the recording linked below. There are quieter prog-rock parts, but I think they're subservient to the parts driven by metal riffs and neither the main focus of the music nor the impression I left with after hearing it.

You can listen to it here: https://dreadnoughtdenver.bandcamp.com/ ... cred-waves
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andretavares
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:49 am 
 

I tried to assign my band "The Genesis Experiment" and as soon as I typed its name I got a message saying that "The Genesis Experiment" (Brazil) has been blacklisted!
I'd like to know the reason.

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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:18 pm 
 

andretavares wrote:
The Genesis Experiment
Predominantly rock-based. Not Metal.
MutantClannfear wrote:
Dreadnought
2 songs out of 4 into the album and it seems it might be acceptable. Whitelisted. Please resubmit.
LeroyNajatahn98 wrote:
Blessed By A Broken Heart
Unacceptable metalcore/glam/hard rock. The 2008 album you linked included.
Zaephar wrote:
Green Dragon
Blacklisted in 2014 for being predominantly stoner/hard rock. However, after listening to a couple of tracks from the 2018 album, this might warrant a reevaluation. Whitelisted.
bartok6969 wrote:
Stuff about Conveyor
The first draft you made was rejected because you failed to provide any proof whatsoever, and then you deleted it form your drafts. Then you made a second draft, after the deletion of the first, and that one was submitted to the queue. There's also another submission from another user in the queue. Does this answer your question?
Amber Gray wrote:
Noosefiller
Gonna check it out and get back to you on the matter. EDIT: Still predominantly noise. It stays blacklisted.
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RazorDick
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:50 pm 
 

Creature from Texas was just rejected because the mod thought the physical release was unprofessional. I provided scans of the version I have. Yes, it is a CDr in a paper case with everything hand written. I am sure the information on the about section was overlooked. It says: "This album was self-released on black CDrs with xeroxed covers, some were handed out in folded and stapled paper with hand-written titles.". If you download the album a back cover is included. If this still isn't good enough I can contact Creature to get another CD with the actual covers, if he still has any left.

http://creature-of-hell.bandcamp.com/al ... h-darkness

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Bachstein
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:31 am 
 

Hi Mods,

Last year I've submitted a band called Distant Dream https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Distant_Dream/3540428023.
This year, they have released a new material, which can be listened to below;
Your Own Story

It's still somewhere between post-rock and post-metal, but I can clearly hear sufficing metal riffing through the album, so it might be worth a reevaluation.

Please have a look and let me know whether I can resubmit the band or not. It's blacklisted at the moment.

Thanks in advance!

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:42 am 
 

RazorDick wrote:
Creature from Texas was just rejected because the mod thought the physical release was unprofessional. I provided scans of the version I have. Yes, it is a CDr in a paper case with everything hand written. I am sure the information on the about section was overlooked. It says: "This album was self-released on black CDrs with xeroxed covers, some were handed out in folded and stapled paper with hand-written titles.". If you download the album a back cover is included. If this still isn't good enough I can contact Creature to get another CD with the actual covers, if he still has any left.

http://creature-of-hell.bandcamp.com/al ... h-darkness

Any idea how many copies got distributed? Any other source corroborating distribution?

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Hi Mods,

Last year I've submitted a band called Distant Dream https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Distant_Dream/3540428023.
This year, they have released a new material, which can be listened to below;
Your Own Story

It's still somewhere between post-rock and post-metal, but I can clearly hear sufficing metal riffing through the album, so it might be worth a reevaluation.

Please have a look and let me know whether I can resubmit the band or not. It's blacklisted at the moment.

Thanks in advance!

Sounds more prog/post-rock than metal. I'm not hearing much metal at all, actually.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:01 am 
 

Noted, thanks for checking it.

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EpicDismemberment
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:40 am 
 

Hi,

When was Brutal Pig from Mexico blacklisted? The guitar riff in their songs from 4-way split "4 States of Grind Vol. 3" which was released in 2016 sound acceptable goregrind to me. Can it be re-evaluated?

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/R ... ._3/617195

All 6 tracks that appeared in the release mentioned above can be found here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlY4UIgzGJc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV1Qxb0JPms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyWQ_OdGZhg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_AM6X9dm64
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U_AU1SlxOI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjxV6iaMFKM

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Gelordum
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:38 pm 
 

Hey, guys!

Could you re-evaluate Filth of Mankind from Poland?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h0KYTFyxy8

Sounds like Doom/Thrash Metal with Crust influences. Pretty solid, dark and atmospheric.

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odium
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:38 am 
 

Cayne's (blacklisted) new album has a clear metal edge on guitar riffs. For me they sound the same or at least much similar to Entwine, Fragilehollow, later Tiamat. I agree that some Love Metal features are present, but at least guitars (and drumming) are enough metal related. And no, they have nothing to do with gothic rock. Could they be reconsidered?

https://open.spotify.com/album/4sjc9Pc7tKDZ4YLrkgPKGN

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:33 pm 
 

I was wondering why the band Oceano (Deathcore, United States) was blacklisted?

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:09 am 
 

EpicDismemberment wrote:
Hi,

When was Brutal Pig from Mexico blacklisted? The guitar riff in their songs from 4-way split "4 States of Grind Vol. 3" which was released in 2016 sound acceptable goregrind to me. Can it be re-evaluated?

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/R ... ._3/617195

All 6 tracks that appeared in the release mentioned above can be found here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlY4UIgzGJc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV1Qxb0JPms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyWQ_OdGZhg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_AM6X9dm64
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U_AU1SlxOI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjxV6iaMFKM

Sounds like the sort of goregrind we don't accept.

Gelordum wrote:
Hey, guys!

Could you re-evaluate Filth of Mankind from Poland?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h0KYTFyxy8

Sounds like Doom/Thrash Metal with Crust influences. Pretty solid, dark and atmospheric.

I always assumed they were crust punk. Doom/thrash is pushing it, but this sounds like metallic enough stenchcore type of stuff. Definitely deserves another look, whitelisted.

odium wrote:
Cayne's (blacklisted) new album has a clear metal edge on guitar riffs. For me they sound the same or at least much similar to Entwine, Fragilehollow, later Tiamat. I agree that some Love Metal features are present, but at least guitars (and drumming) are enough metal related. And no, they have nothing to do with gothic rock. Could they be reconsidered?

https://open.spotify.com/album/4sjc9Pc7tKDZ4YLrkgPKGN

The blacklisting says "Metallic modern rock". I think that still applies.

Xanderious wrote:
I was wondering why the band Oceano (Deathcore, United States) was blacklisted?

https://www.metal-archives.com/board/se ... mit=Search
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SpicyPhil
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 4:46 pm 
 

Curious why the experimental/industrial band GOD has been blacklisted. I get they're not pure metal as a lot of experimental stuff reaches into many non-metal categories, but I believe they have many qualities of metal within their music, enough so to qualify them as a metal band. Without going into specific comparisons as that's frowned upon here, there are plenty of experimental bands akin to GOD (some of which are also associated acts) that manage to make it onto the site, so I'm just confused why this one doesn't. Not that it'll ruin my day if the band is never on the site, but still, seems a bit odd that they've been as far as blacklisted.

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SpicyPhil
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 4:49 pm 
 

Here's an example of one of their songs.

https://youtu.be/mR9a2Cih94w

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