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Diamhea
Eats and Spits Corpses

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:16 pm 
 

Seems to be, yeah. More hardcore than metal.

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~Guest 299678
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:52 pm 
 

People, I can not find a valid reason for not adding Praying Mantis in Metal Archives. No Metal? Oh my god! It is true that Mantis has many melodic songs that even in recent albums may sound rocker, but have heard you their entire discography? I will give several examples of purely Metal songs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vIU39rDRSI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MJWF_HXHoQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08P-Dhl5u54

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY1UBqA0VHk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqaAa5dBxcg

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:19 pm 
 

search.php?keywords=Praying+Mantis&terms=all&author=&fid%5B%5D=3&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search

This is one of the most inquired-about bands on this forum, lots of results with the search function. The gist is that they are more melodic hard rock than metal.
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RazorDick
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:32 pm 
 

Here is proof of valid Storm of Swords CD release.
http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p75 ... hrmfoe.jpg

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MasterOfSin
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 5:37 am 
 

Hi,
I see that MaterDea is blacklisted, i suppose because his previous albums, today i listened his last album A Rose For Egeria, and to me is a Symphonic Metal with some Folk, can we unlisted?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNi4MIVLKwE
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF62Rf3IhMs
www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMoG8LHlnIY
www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_1GdxNSqwA
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TrogDawn
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:25 pm 
 

Just did a search and found nothing in this thread, so I'm wondering why Phoenix, AZ band Hellen has been blacklisted.

http://www.reverbnation.com/hellenband
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j6ECPzxMXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_ZtLjDL8BM
https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/hellen_f1

Thanks in advance for the info.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:36 pm 
 

What's with the orange, dude?

The blacklist note says it's more -core than metal. Seems to be so.
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TrogDawn
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 5:44 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
What's with the orange, dude?

Personal trademark. I've been posting in orange since I started frequenting forums in 2002. You'll always remember me because I'm the guy who posts in orange :beer:

Azmodes wrote:
The blacklist note says it's more -core than metal. Seems to be so.

I've been to many of their shows locally and the music is straight metal with a female drummer alternating between death and clean vox. I detest core myself but love this band. So unless I don't understand what core really is (rappy vox over single note chug-chug-cha-chug-chug guitars, right?) I'll have to disagree, but I'm not the boss so whatever you guys say.

Thanks for checking, much appreciated.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 5:54 pm 
 

TrogDawn wrote:
Azmodes wrote:
What's with the orange, dude?

Personal trademark. I've been posting in orange since I started frequenting forums in 2002. You'll always remember me because I'm the guy who posts in orange :beer:

No offense, but could you please stop it? It's pointless and a bit annoying to read. Thanks.

TrogDawn wrote:
Azmodes wrote:
The blacklist note says it's more -core than metal. Seems to be so.

I've been to many of their shows locally and the music is straight metal with a female drummer alternating between death and clean vox. I detest core myself but love this band. So unless I don't understand what core really is (rappy vox over single note chug-chug-cha-chug-chug guitars, right?) I'll have to disagree, but I'm not the boss so whatever you guys say.

Thanks for checking, much appreciated.
:headbang:

"-core" isn't really the right word here, I guess. It's more "jumpdafuckup" nu-metal, not much actual metal riffing to be found.
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Wilytank
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:04 am 
 

TrogDawn wrote:
You'll always remember me because I'm the guy who posts in orange :beer:


You're saying it like it's a good thing to be remembered for. :ugh:
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Ray_Venatorofficial
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:07 am 
 

Hey good afternoon,

I'm trying to get my band Venator added to the list, after adding the first official release from my band, it's being rejected because I can't provide a link to a store where it is being sold.
It is being sold at the merchbooth and official merchbooths at festivals and shows. The reason we don't sell it online is because we don't have an official website and for bands our caliber, online sales isn't effective and not worth putting effort in at this time. We have tried to sell T-shirts, Patches and CD's online before... doesn't work as long as you don't have a promoter/label behind you.

The album is out there, it's for sale, it's long enough to meet the standards, it's metal and all our members have been on the metal-archives for practicly ages.

Could you reconsider our application, after reading the story about sales above?

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:36 am 
 

Hey there, Ray. I believe you, but could you upload or link to a photo of a couple of physical copies? Shouldn't be too hard and it provides us with concrete evidence for posterity. :)

You can use either an image hosting site such as https://imgur.com/ or email it to me. (address below)
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:04 pm 
 

RazorDick wrote:
Here is proof of valid Storm of Swords CD release.
http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p75 ... hrmfoe.jpg

Resubmit.

MasterOfSin wrote:
Hi,
I see that MaterDea is blacklisted, i suppose because his previous albums, today i listened his last album A Rose For Egeria, and to me is a Symphonic Metal with some Folk, can we unlisted?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNi4MIVLKwE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF62Rf3IhMs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMoG8LHlnIY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_1GdxNSqwA

Removed from the blacklist.
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EpicDismemberment
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:58 am 
 

Hi,
Why the band "Smallpox Aroma" has been blacklisted? Can you give me a reason, NOT Metal enough or else?

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:10 am 
 

Yeah, more grindcore than metal.

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EpicDismemberment
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:57 am 
 

Diamhea wrote:
Yeah, more grindcore than metal.

I think they seem like other bands that was recently added to this website in this month; Cleptomaniacos, Grinder Flesh, Puttorso.

Cleptomaniacos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrpIWLa2we0
Grinder Flesh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDCmh1N7Jfw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z43m9eKFo90
Puttorso
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57jU1ijhab0

or the bands that already on this website; Phlegm Thrower, Intestinal Disgorge.

Phlegm Thrower
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0GtHUFR3_A
Intestinal Disgorge
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi8Ey308gpM

Smallpox Aroma
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uCiJD99dBM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEC5bB1TLNg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwO8cMAWxzQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuS3T8Dl8G8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn_4_hfSIN0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyOFh9cVVcg

Please, reconsider to remove it from the blacklist or correct me if I'm wrong :)

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MasterOfSin
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:16 am 
 

MasterOfSin wrote:
Hi,
I see that MaterDea is blacklisted, i suppose because his previous albums, today i listened his last album A Rose For Egeria, and to me is a Symphonic Metal with some Folk, can we unlisted?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNi4MIVLKwE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF62Rf3IhMs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMoG8LHlnIY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_1GdxNSqwA

Removed from the blacklist.[/quote]

OK.
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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:07 am 
 

EpicDismemberment wrote:
Diamhea wrote:
Yeah, more grindcore than metal.

I think they seem like other bands that was recently added to this website in this month; Cleptomaniacos, Grinder Flesh, Puttorso.
...
Please, reconsider to remove it from the blacklist or correct me if I'm wrong :)

Hey mate,

Smallpox Aroma have their fair share of metal influences, but I'm afraid they're not what's driving their music. The patterns are heavily rooted in pure grindcore (think of noisy or jumpy crust punk, I guess). So not metal enough, I'm afraid. Bloody good band though. :D

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trace6x
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:46 am 
 

In regards to:
Quote:
Sorry trace6x, Encyclopaedia Metallum was forced to reject your submission for the band Outright Resistance (United Kingdom), for the following reason:

How many copies of the demo have been made? How are they being distributed? Can you link to any online mention of the band selling them/giving them away?

If you want to object to this rejection, please do so in the appropriate thread in the Suggestions and Complaints sub-forum. Do not e-mail moderators directly about this.

Sincerely,
- Azmodes, Encyclopaedia Metallum


Not exactly sure how many demos we've made, probably more than 100, we hand them out at shows or post them to anyone who requests for one, there's a tweet about our demo:
https://twitter.com/OR_Band
'Would you like a free copy of our 3 track D.E.M.O.? Drop us a message and we'll get it sent ASAP no matter where you live! #FreeMusic #Metal'
and a review:
http://aphexnobody.blog.co.uk/2012/08/0 ... -14373095/

Hope this is alright!

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:12 am 
 

ok, restored.
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trace6x
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:49 am 
 

Awesome thanks!

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EpicDismemberment
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:10 am 
 

Alhadis wrote:
Hey mate,

Smallpox Aroma have their fair share of metal influences, but I'm afraid they're not what's driving their music. The patterns are heavily rooted in pure grindcore (think of noisy or jumpy crust punk, I guess). So not metal enough, I'm afraid. Bloody good band though. :D


OK, made myself clearly thanks. They're from Thailand, my country :D

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trace6x
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:44 am 
 

Got some details wrong on my band listing like the year of release, how do I change these?

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MasterOfSin
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:56 am 
 

Why My Reflection is balck-listed?
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:03 am 
 

trace6x wrote:
Got some details wrong on my band listing like the year of release, how do I change these?

Make a report on the page.

MasterOfSin wrote:
Why My Reflection is balck-listed?

The blacklist note compares it to Atreyu regarding "metalness".
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MasterOfSin
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:51 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
MasterOfSin wrote:
Why My Reflection is balck-listed?

The blacklist note compares it to Atreyu regarding "metalness".


I never had listened Atreyu so i can't compare... i have been listen his discography and
the first works are clearly a "evanescence" genre, but the full-length Dreamland Drowning is more heavier, but i think they are on the edge and suppose they could be "metalness".

Farewell
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUI7s8_5wj0

Let The Rain Come Down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHRfB0oq7ic

On The Edge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G2gNQvfZUI
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Black Champion
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:31 am 
 

Murder King from Turkey has been rejected and blacklisted. But it's truly metal. Here's some samples.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNaB7NEyeLU&amp ... &gl=TR

www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv8UZ8wlTGQ&amp ... &gl=TR

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLaHMiUUcE0&amp ... &hl=tr

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:28 am 
 

MasterOfSin:

I listened to it, and yeah I dunno...The first track you listed seems acceptable at times, but overall it is really borderline. The second track does sound a lot like early Atreyu, at least regarding the guitars and male vocals. Not bad for what it is, but it is awfully core-y and nu-metal sounding when it actually does get heavy.
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demon505
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:36 pm 
 

The band I submitted, Spirit Division, was rejected on the grounds of no physical release. But they have one, here's the proof.

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Diamhea
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A valid physical release is always preferred, and you must provide evidence of the availability of this physical format. This means a CD, LP, or even a tape. Photographs of the physical release(s) will go a long way into having your submission accepted (whereas blank-looking CD-Rs hand-written in black marker will not)
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:30 am 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Cur ... 3540384082

This band has been rejected by the moderators for the following reason:

"A post on a forum saying "THIS BE BLACK METAL, YO" isn't enough to prove it's metalness. Also, give us a link of the actual music. We rule bands on a case by case basis. We don't compare and guess a band's sound."

Should I go through my bands and find the ones that I submitted like this so you can delete them?..

EDIT: Here is a list of the ones I can remember if you wanna nuke em, samples might be online by now for some:
Spoiler: show

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:04 am 
 

PDS is a new mod and probably not aware that you're a former mod and trustworthy. No need to be too snarky on him. ^^
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PDS
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Yeah, sorry mate. I know you are a former an all, but the submission notes did feel like the those basic ones that you see later disputed and shot down on this thread. Call it being cut from a different cloth or just being raised to question everything from anyone but I'm too overly careful. I mean, hell, the band could be an ambient strummfest labeled as black metal, typical of a label or no. Sure the band is most likely metal. 95% chance. But there is still the 5%

Call it overcarefullness or incompetance or being a really tight-assed sailor. W/e

All by all means, snark away. It is how I make a living, there is never too much snark. ;)

EDIT: yes I know bands can be accepted if they have notable review or something saying that it is metal. Granted I have never heard of this so called "Stench Forum" but given my general avoidance of most metal communities (online or no) out there, you can clock that one up to inexperience.
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OMG I wasn't trynna be snarky you guys, :lol:

I just didn't want to look like I had missed a rule shift. I edited my post because it sounded snarky... it was worse before. I am sorry, haha. I see where you're coming from, though. I usually try to be certain before I submit stuff like that because of that.

I should have clarified that it's probably all the same people on that label and that all their other descriptions have been spot on before.

Congrats on mod, by the way :)

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SoloWing
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 5:32 am 
 

Good day, guys.

Rejected band Los Cochinos (Russia) have digital EP release, and song samples free to listening and downloading avaliable on https://soundcloud.com/los-cochinos-metal

Cheers

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PDS
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 5:42 am 
 

Halloween wrote:
OMG I wasn't trynna be snarky you guys, :lol:

I just didn't want to look like I had missed a rule shift. I edited my post because it sounded snarky... it was worse before. I am sorry, haha. I see where you're coming from, though. I usually try to be certain before I submit stuff like that because of that.

I should have clarified that it's probably all the same people on that label and that all their other descriptions have been spot on before.

Congrats on mod, by the way :)


lol, Thanks.

Yeah, I'm in my new mod phase so sometimes I'll make mistakes. You can resubmit and everything. In my opinion, it was my mistake.


SoloWing wrote:
Good day, guys.

Blacklisted band Los Cochinos (Russia) have digital EP release, and song samples free to listening and downloading avaliable on https://soundcloud.com/los-cochinos-metal

Cheers


Soundcloud isn't really generally a good site to ref for a band download. Bandcamp is a lot better. Also, the EP is 1/2 original material an 1/2 covers, which goes to about 8 minutes of original material. Out of an 18 minute EP, that is less than half time-wise. Please wait until you have a release that is mostly original material.
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I for one think Deftones should be added to the site, sure they might be considered "nu-metal" but they are too heavy to dismiss
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Ezeekial Zoratium wrote:
I for one think Deftones should be added to the site, sure they might be considered "nu-metal" but they are too heavy to dismiss


We for all say "no". They are "Nu-Metal" and we (the mods) have dismissed them already.


For anything else snarky/assholish, please search for Deftones in this thread, and your will get a nicer response, that is just a synonym to this response:

"no"
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demon505
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:14 am 
 

Diamhea wrote:
Quote:
A valid physical release is always preferred, and you must provide evidence of the availability of this physical format. This means a CD, LP, or even a tape. Photographs of the physical release(s) will go a long way into having your submission accepted (whereas blank-looking CD-Rs hand-written in black marker will not)


Well I'm not sure how else to prove it. It is a demo with music on it that has been sold at shows.

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PDS
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:20 am 
 

demon505 wrote:
Diamhea wrote:
A valid physical release is always preferred, and you must provide evidence of the availability of this physical format. This means a CD, LP, or even a tape. Photographs of the physical release(s) will go a long way into having your submission accepted (whereas blank-looking CD-Rs hand-written in black marker will not)


Well I'm not sure how else to prove it. It is a demo with music on it that has been sold at shows.


I think, Diamhea means that can you show a release of professionalism/non-dubious physical quality? I mean, I could totally grab one of my black CD-Rs, print out your band's logo, write on the CD-R with a sharpie and *Boom*, I have what looks like your demo. Only difference would be that my CD-Rs are black.
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I dunno, I'm a guitarist and it always feels like playing a giant cock. Not just that but live music should hit you in the genitals. It might not if you don't use good amplifiers and your modelling shit goes straight out of the PA. But good music hits you HARD in the GENITALS.

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