I appreciate the staff’s patience — neither we nor the band made the submission, so we’re operating in an informational vacuum. I am wondering if the submission was made after September 28? That is the day that we made streams available.

A few of us gave this a listen again just now and we feel it's still more punk/crust than metal so the blacklisting will stay in place for now.

So, I’ve come across a very unusual conundrum. Viraxiom was blacklisted for having no digital version of their EP which came out yesterday for moderators to listen to, which makes complete sense. However, when I contacted the band on the issue, they said they do not intend to ever release it to Bandcamp/Spotify/YouTube, etc. So, what to do? Do I buy a copy and physically send it to a moderator/admin? One song from the EP is available on their SoundCloud, if that helps: https://m.soundcloud.com/user-990884987

Also, there is a rehearsal version of a different song off the EP accessible on their Bandcamp: https://viraxiom.bandcamp.com/track/dis ... m-practice

Any thoughts on my Wolfbrigade post on the last page?

We'd prefer to evaluate only the versions of the songs that appear on the EP, and ideally more than one of them. You could perhaps ask the band if you could have a digital copy of the files, then upload them to a file-sharing website like Dropbox and link it for the moderators to hear. We won't share it anywhere other than to determine its metalness and you can delete it afterwards.

EDIT: Also, the band isn't blacklisted, so once you have that feel free to resubmit, no need to check in in this thread first.

Fair enough. I appreciate the second look.

Several mods listened to the new album and we mostly agreed that it’s still a crust/hardcore album with metal influence rather than the other way around.

Bumping this.

It's not blacklisted, so go ahead and resubmit it and we'll reevaluate it.

Oh ok, thank you.

White listed for re-evaluation. Go ahead and submit when you're ready.

Hello there peopleeee, how you doing?
This band Dismembered Snitch Vivisection is blacklisted, is there a possibility to whitelist this? Plenty of Slam bands have some weird "rap" thing, Epicardiectomy's drummer is literally paroding some teeth "rapper" (I don't even know how to write raper, or rapper, or rapist hehehe) By the way! Cemetery Rapist is another example, but just in appearance; the same thing for Gortuary vocalist... Getting to the point, could it be whitelisted? And why is blacklisted? Thank you all.

We do not consider the imagery when accepting bands; that is not the issue, it was blacklisted for not being metal. After discussing, we've decided that the band may be acceptable ("may" is the key word here, this is not a guarantee). It's been whitelisted, feel free to submit the band to be evaluated further.

Thanks Mutant!!! I just send it, by the way I saw that is Clay from Cemetery Rapist the band itself, that's why I just recognize that sound and composition haha.. Thanks again. Oh another thing
XAVLEGBMAOFFFASSSSITIMIWOAMNDUTROABCWAPWAEIIPPOHFFFX got a nice ep, It may fit with the page, I read that it was blacklisted because the "deathcore/slam" sound, or something like that, maybe it could be whitelisted? give it a shot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ho9T2RmMJ8

Piggy from Chile has been blacklisted. As I heard the album "Porcogore", I can't see why they has been blacklisted.
This is goregrind (yes) but acceptable goregrind. I would say that Piggy is a Goregrind/Groove metal band.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhX7NkBBeBU

Listen to these riffs, I know tha comparison with other bands is not an argument or whatever, but it really sounds like to Carnal Diafragma, same kind of loud riffs, with groovy side.

physical copy : https://imgur.com/a/VhOagBC

I'm familiar with this band, there are BDM sections but I think the majority of the music is a mishmash of various non-metal genres - hardcore, deathcore (on the -core side), djent/nu-metal, etc. This will stay blacklisted.


This is borderline, but I think it's ultimately too punk-based to be acceptable. As with most "groovy goregrind" bands, there are lots of bouncy punk riffs here that have no musical relation to metal other than the low tuning and heavy guitar tone.

EDIT: Also, although you're right in that you shouldn't compare bands, you convinced me to listen to Carnal Diafragma and this is materially different from Piggy. Much more consistently metal. The "groove" you hear in Piggy is the non-metal parts.

Does this requalify Line of Fire (UK)?

https://lineoffireuk.bandcamp.com/album ... -in-my-way

Yeah for obvious reasons GosT was rejected xd. What about Methadone Abortion Clinic? I do not want to compare but I can't help saying that is reaaaally similar to Biological Monstrosity (which is here) I know I know.. Don't compare, sorry but could it be whitelisted? Or is it too punky talking about riffs? Thanks for your attention people.

No; this band has been evaluated many times in the past and judged each time to mostly be non-metal goregrind. In the future, please use the search function on the forums before asking about well-known bands.

Also - please don't submit bands that you anticipate will be rejected "for obvious reasons".

Sorry Mutant, my bad.. For a moment I guess that could be submitted for some songs in the album which I found heavy (In some way) my apologies again.

Hi, Metal-Archives crew!

Did you consider the appeal against NORTH OF SOUTH's initial blacklisting because of its alleged "lack of Metalness"? Could you re-check the music in a deeper way and whitelist this band?
I proposed a '(Modern) Progressive Metal with Jazz and Latin influences' genre/category/tag. Still waiting for a reply.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFiz2Lan3_Q

Thank you in advance!

Wondering why BYRHTNOTH shows as blacklisted, but they're essentially the same as SUMMONING. Album was released in June. Couldn't find anything about them in this forum.
https://byrhtnoth.bandcamp.com/album/br ... e-trumpets

Unlike Summoning, this is more on the Ambient than on the metal side of things.

Hello again folks!
I'm wondering if Unreqvited from Canada could be whitelisted
Here's the bandcamp: https://unreqvited.bandcamp.com/album/s ... to-the-sea

And what about Ragana? An admin said that does not sound predominantly metal to him/her, but just that, that's why I bring back the question again, I'm sorry if I misunderstood something.
EDIT: Ragana bandcamp https://ragana.bandcamp.com/
Thanks as always!

Bumping so this doesn't get buried

You posted that only yesterday. Bumping it was completely unnecessary.

So for Ragana. If you receive a "no" from a mod about a band, that is not an invitation to keep bringing it up here asking for more opinions. We respect the judgment of each of our moderators and we don't want people shopping around the mods until they find someone who finally says yes. One "no", especially for a band that was already blacklisted by somebody else, is enough to be your final answer unless the band releases something new.

Regarding Unreqvited: use the search function, they were brought up in June and have not released anything since then.

Sorry about the Unreqvited thing, when I was on the phone I didn't find a thread.

About Ragana I recieved what I told in the past commetary, I didn't considered it as a "no" (no intentionally), I really misunderstood the point.
May I ask about Cannibal Grandpa? is blacklisted, the last album has more "slammy" and brutal riffings things apllied than the first one (which the first one is more core than everything else at the maximum point), but as I said, the last one may pass, is there a chance of whitelisting?
Thanks again
Bandcamp: https://cannibalgrandpa.bandcamp.com/

Let me put it this way: if a mod responds to you and says "this doesn't sound metal to me", that is a "no" and the discussion is over for now.

Listening to it now, this Cannibal Grandpa album is much-more-core-than-metal deathcore. In other words, "no".

This got lost in the shuffle last week. Just want to know if this would be more acceptable for the digital release rules, instead of just putting back in the queue again.

I can't give this anything more then a cursory glance right now but I would say go ahead and submit. We can discuss once it's in the queue.

Good day people!
Crippled Fox is blacklisted, I found a thread talking about this but is from 2015, now they got something new, it's possible a revaluation?
https://crippledfox.bandcamp.com/album/ ... re-is-back

Sorry, but several moderators listened to the samples provided and decided that it was more rock than metal. You can bring the band up again once they release a new album (if you believe it is more metal).


Borderline, but still more punk than metal.

my post from the last week and previous page was overlooked, so here it is again. My submission of The heavy metal band Spellbound from Jönköping was rjected with demands for proofs of distribution. I have actually included a link to the eentry for the band and their demo cassette at FWOSHM, which is managed by Janne Stark form Overdrive and is a very trustful source. The eentry includes the info about format and the scan of hand drawn cover of the demo. Plesase see here: https://www.fwoshm.com/index/S/1487-spe ... al-maniacs
my ququestion: Why is this not an adequate proof and which proof I am supposed to give about a band, which is split-up since 1984 and you can't find their rleases in an online webstore?

Samples:
https://www.youtube.com/user/66TGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5MyV8UvLUo

The truth of the matter is that the mods here intentionally don't define what "metal riffing" to give them carte blanche to arbitrarily declare things they don't like "not Metal". Hell, if the band focuses on using micro-riffs layered together they blacklist it because that's "noodling" because apparently riffs stop being riffs if they're not as long as an entire verse. Just stop trying to make sense of the process here.

lol, yes because we all hate bands like Kvelertak, Agoraphobic Nosebleed, and Led Zeppelin but absolutely love stuff like Thrash or Die, Six Feet Under, and Liturgy.

Dear Mods,

I've just tried to submit my band "Social Apathy" from Athens Greece a few minutes ago and to my surprise it said that my band has been blacklisted...
First of all, none of the members of Social Apathy tried to submit the band in the past, I'm 1000% sure about it... So how and why it came to this without even trying to get listed in your archives before?
Secondly would you please be so kind to ellaborate the reasons behind this blacklisting? (I've already read the post about metallum standards in great detail)


Kind Regards

https://socialapathy.bandcamp.com/releases

The submission of bands isn't limited to band members, anybody can submit info on a band.

The blacklist notes that the music was more based in hardcore than black metal. There was a good amount of on the fence members but it leaned more on more punk than black metal.

I beg to differ but if that's your final decision then I guess there are not much things we can do as a band...
Αnyways I just wanted to point out and ask you one last thing, in which other black metal punk bands that you've listed here, have you heard so many heavy/thrash metal orriented solos and doom metal parts? Whatever in my opinion it would be wise to have one more listen of the full thing in case you've judged only by a single track or two.
By the way what happens if the next release leans more on what the mods consider metal? Would we still be unable to submit an album due to the blacklisting?
The reason I'm asking is because as long as this band remains alive we will never create an album that it's the same as the previous one.

When we go over a band, we go through the entire album and a couple days to go over it. From the looks of it, it was on the mod dicussion for about 6 days with a good amount of mods going through the entire album.

When any new material comes out, just post here for whitelisting and we'll check it out.