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Dexter
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:21 pm 
 

It's simple: submit a picture of the cd (a picture, not the cover, that is to say: grab the cd and take a picture)

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Fulgurius
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:58 am 
 

Scorpios wrote:
I submitted Akrabu and it was rejected for not being Metal, though it is my project with actual releases on actual labels. Maybe I missed something, but there is Akrabu mentioned along with the links where I am involved on other 'metal' bands here.

Non-metal side-projects are accepted only if they have at least one release on major label with world-wide distribution in stone shops. Your project doesn't fit this rule as all releases are limited editions on underground labels.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:39 am 
 

Acediaband wrote:
I have absolutely no idea how my band was rejected. We are legitimate.

I've read the rules, we have a physical release (How do you expect me to prove this?). As far as provided proof, I've linked our facebook and reverb nation pages, both with pictures from our release show, and the album cover as well as track listings. I've proved detailed information on the release and my band was still rejected. As for "Metalness", we play Death Metal, I know we're metal enough to show up on this website.

Approved. There was enough evidence for a CD release on your Facebook page. Still, for the future, please understand that a FB/reverbnation page, cover art, tracklists and concert footage don't necessarily prove a physical release. The album could still be digital only. A photo, as Dexter said, is usually the best (though not only) way to unambiguously settle the PR issue.
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Scorpios
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:53 pm 
 

Fulgurius wrote:
Scorpios wrote:
I submitted Akrabu and it was rejected for not being Metal, though it is my project with actual releases on actual labels. Maybe I missed something, but there is Akrabu mentioned along with the links where I am involved on other 'metal' bands here.

Non-metal side-projects are accepted only if they have at least one release on major label with world-wide distribution in stone shops. Your project doesn't fit this rule as all releases are limited editions on underground labels.




Anunnakian Incanations was pressed at 1000 copies and on Memento Mori / Dark Vinyl records.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:24 pm 
 

SHAGRAT666 wrote:
I had submitted a few bands at around the same time that could be considered grindcore/crust and feel WARWOLF was unfairly lumped in with these other submissions. (I read the submission rules about not submittting these genres, yet see many bands on here that would fall under that category and even have those titles listed under their genre headings so I figured there was a large grey area determined by factors such as lyrics, aesthethic and personal tastes.)

As a rule, you can assume that the majority of bands in the database solely with "Grindcore" as a genre tag are here because they play a style primarily lying in the death -or other kind of- metal infused part of the genre.

SHAGRAT666 wrote:
Regardless I feel Warwolf was mistakenly denied on genre grounds as a "grindcore/punk" band. I would like to refute that on the following grounds.
1. Warwolf had no punk or grind influences. There are no "blast beats" which are a signifying factor to be grind, I feel. I admit the recordings online are extremely amatuerish and raw and may come off as "punk" due to those facts, but that style was desired. I would consider it blown out beyond all hell overtly satanic thrash/death metal influenced by MAYHEM'S " Pure Fucking Armageddon" demo and the early demo's of TORMENOR (Kreator), DESTRUCTION, and REPULSION. Its kinda supposed to sound like shit.

I won't deny that the band has frequent and noticable portions of metal, once you can get past the terrible production. You're right that the manner of the recording creates a bias toward labelling them as pure chaotic noisegrind, or something to that effect. I was perhaps a bit hasty when writing the rejection email, albeit (it seems after consulting an admin) not in choosing rejection itself. The material on the album is still undeniably laced with parts that are dodgy, borderline and confused on what they're trying to be, and so already dubious to this site based on a musical viewpoint alone. Furthermore, the band also has attributes of a joke band, which means that it's balancing over yet another abyss between acceptability and non-acceptability.

I'm not saying it's totally outlandish trying to submit them, but the current discography and style of the band are too much of a fuzzy, uncertain matter unless they release another album for reconsideration.
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Aszfargoth
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:16 pm 
 

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Sorry Aszfargoth, Encyclopaedia Metallum was forced to reject your submission for the band Antichrist (Canada), for the following reason:

Please read our rules about the physical release; the music might be acceptable for the site, but there is no evidence of a physical release. If this band has indeed released anything on a physical medium AND you can show us proof, you can resubmit it again. (so for now they don't have any release? add them when they something release)

If you want to object to this rejection, please do so in the appropriate thread in the Suggestions and Complaints sub-forum. Do not e-mail moderators directly about this.

Sincerely,
- PiotrB, Encyclopaedia Metallum


As of August 22nd, the Canadian Antichrist's album "Sacrament of Blood" has been announced as officially released on Nuclear War Now!'s website which should warrant their inclusion into the Archives. Apologies for not having made this explicit in the additional notes for my submission (or, more precisely, re-submission) of this band.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:19 pm 
 

Aszfargoth wrote:
As of August 22nd, the Canadian Antichrist's album "Sacrament of Blood" has been announced as officially released on Nuclear War Now!'s website which should warrant their inclusion into the Archives. Apologies for not having made this explicit in the additional notes for my submission (or, more precisely, re-submission) of this band.

I approved another submission of the band yesterday: http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ant ... 3540331489 There was only the one entry in the queue at the time.
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Third_of_the_Storms
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:35 pm 
 

Once again (since my last post was ignored) I will post a few tracks from Tony MacAlpine's new album:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O4932Xg2-0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sdPRo7- ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhrSneYJ ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YldIVERm ... re=related

The first link contains three tracks.

All of these tracks sound quite metallic to me so can we finally consider removing Tony from the blacklist? The new album has an abundance of riffs (which, apparently was one of the earlier stumbling blocks. I find this surprising as albums such as Premonition and Chromaticity have no lack of riffs) and is not your typical "guitar" album.

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quadraphonicband
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:30 am 
 

Hello there,

My name is Vasos and i am the vocalist/guitarist for Quadraphonic, a progressive metal band from Cyprus. A year ago i tried to add my band in the encyclopedia and i was rejected due to lack of physical evidence of an official release by my band. Fair enough, i waited until our album got released and tried again 2 days ago to add my band once again. I provided physical evidence of an official release:

http://img13.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=097038782_cd_physical_122_391lo.jpg

The band's websites:

http://quadraphonic.eu/
http://www.youtube.com/quadraphonicband
http://www.myspace.com/quadraphonicband
http://www.facebook.com/QuadraphonicBand

i even provided a double issue webzine deticated to our band by Rockcyprus.net one of the most vital resources for Cypriot rock and metal fans:

http://rockcyprus.net/2011/Quad2011A/Quad2011Issue.htm

http://rockcyprus.net/2011/Quad2011B/Quad2011IssueB.htm

and still we get rejected? what are we doing wrong? i dont understand?

Vasos Kyriakides

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Dexter
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:23 am 
 

was it rejected the second time for not being metal?

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quadraphonicband
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:59 am 
 

I dont know, maybe... But Quadraphonic is Metal, the guitars are drop tuned, we use 7 string guitars, vht amps, overdriven dirty bass e.t.c. i don't get it you can follow this link:

http://rockcyprus.net/2011/Quad2011A/Quad2011Issue.htm

scroll down you will see a whole stream of our album Oracles & Constellations and listen to the first seconds of the opening track and tell me that its not metal...

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Morrigan
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:14 pm 
 

Some of the moderator left notes that the promo video on your site didn't really show any metal and I agreed. But I found some videos on youtube that seemed more metal so I didn't reject it yet. I'll check out that link in a moment.

Edit: that song (Of God's Impurity) is not very conclusive actually...
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Dexter
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:16 pm 
 

Yeah, some stuff seems to sound like rock, but the opening track sounded like metal.

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Yusef
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:35 pm 
 

I would like to add the information requested for Forsakers approval

it is available at Shaxul records in SF, amoeba, and rasputin.
here are the physical CD's:

Image

and here is a link to our music:

http://www.reverbnation.com/forsaker

Thanks a lot!

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Morrigan
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:51 pm 
 

Resubmit with these links in the "submission notes".
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Zelkiiro
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:55 pm 
 

Whatever happened to Lacroix Despheres?

I even wrote a review for that album of theirs... ;_;
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:59 am 
 

Zelkiiro wrote:
Whatever happened to Lacroix Despheres?

I even wrote a review for that album of theirs... ;_;

They were deleted by Witcher in 2010 for being "some kind of heavily symphonic rock".

@Quadrophonic: I recall listening to an album teaser on their site and while it started out metal enough the last two thirds or so were nowhere near that. Listening to those songs linked to I don't think they're acceptable.
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quadraphonicband
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:38 am 
 

What is the measurement of metalness anyways, i mean if you have a look at Fates Warning's stuff, from Parallels to FWX you cant really say that its pure metal, or if you look at Dream Theater's Falling into infinity that's not pure metal either. Most of Queensryche discography aswell. On the other hand they are considered metal.

There are not a lot of Progressive Metal bands that are pure metal. They wouldn't be progressive if they were. And i always thought that Metalheads all over the world stick up for each other and support each other. This is prejudice and immature, we are way beyond this bullocks so i dont give a rats ass if you reject us anymore.

with kind regards

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peterott
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:50 am 
 

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Sorry peterott, Encyclopaedia Metallum was forced to reject your submission for the band Everlind (Sweden), for the following reason:

No proof of metalness provided.

If you want to object to this rejection, please do so in the appropriate thread in the Suggestions and Complaints sub-forum. Do not e-mail moderators directly about this.

Sincerely,
- Porman, Encyclopaedia Metallum
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=> I have never ever provided any proof of metalness for any of the 169 bands that I submitted to the Metal Archives, as I can't digitize cassettes. I only provide pics/logos/songtitles/musicians of the demos that are lying in front of me. If there is a problem to find something with google about the Melodic Black Metal band Everlind then yeah, sorry to the band, but I can't add them.
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neithan69
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:25 am 
 

Hello, I also would like to ask you guys to reconsider inclusion of the WHALESONG (Poland). Text from mail why it was rejected:

Sorry neithan69, Encyclopaedia Metallum was forced to reject your submission for the band Whalesong (Poland), for the following reason:

Not a metal band; does not belong on Encyclopaedia Metallum. Please read our rules next time to see what qualifies as metal.



We play industrial metal but not in Nine Inch Nails/Rammstein/KMFDM style - you wrote that bands like that will be rejected - OK, but we play in Godflesh/Dead World/Pitchshifter/Blacklodge style - and all those bands are here... I want to add that main thing that make us industrial is drum machine. There were and are many metal bands using that. A little bit more electronic sounding of it in some songs doesn't make the band non metal in my opinion.

I would like to ask you to reconsider WHALESONG again. Here's link to myspace where music is uploaded: http://www.myspace.com/whalesongofficial Here's also link to some live videos: www.youtube.com/whalesongofficial

I'm looking forward to your reply.

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Helvede
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:12 am 
 

peterott wrote:
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Sorry peterott, Encyclopaedia Metallum was forced to reject your submission for the band Everlind (Sweden), for the following reason:

No proof of metalness provided.

If you want to object to this rejection, please do so in the appropriate thread in the Suggestions and Complaints sub-forum. Do not e-mail moderators directly about this.

Sincerely,
- Porman, Encyclopaedia Metallum
---


=> I have never ever provided any proof of metalness for any of the 169 bands that I submitted to the Metal Archives, as I can't digitize cassettes. I only provide pics/logos/songtitles/musicians of the demos that are lying in front of me. If there is a problem to find something with google about the Melodic Black Metal band Everlind then yeah, sorry to the band, but I can't add them.


Probably our latest staffmembers don't really know you, but just re-submit, I never had any reason to question your submissions.

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Tonatiuth
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:29 pm 
 

quadraphonicband wrote:
What is the measurement of metalness anyways, i mean if you have a look at Fates Warning's stuff, from Parallels to FWX you cant really say that its pure metal, or if you look at Dream Theater's Falling into infinity that's not pure metal either. Most of Queensryche discography aswell. On the other hand they are considered metal.

There are not a lot of Progressive Metal bands that are pure metal. They wouldn't be progressive if they were. And i always thought that Metalheads all over the world stick up for each other and support each other. This is prejudice and immature, we are way beyond this bullocks so i dont give a rats ass if you reject us anymore.

with kind regards


One thing is Metalness and other different is Heavyness, progressive metal has metalness because it's elements, not for be heavy it's metal... that's why Suicide Silence by example is rejected, heavy but not metal... Fates Warning has at less 1 predominantly metal album and that's enough. Falling Into Infinity is here because it belongs to a metal band... if we just had the metal albums in the encyclopedia, only 1 cd would appear in Underoath by example, or the Metallica discography would be incomplete, same as Queensyrche, if we have a band on the archives we must add the full discography when at less 1 record is pure metal. By the way, I'm not a mod, but I believe that I'm right, if not.. please tell me.
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Our song is Social Suicide not Suicide Silence! Learn to read, this shows how much you actually sat down and heard our music...

lol I believe there's a misunderstanding. Tonatiuth is referring to the deathcore band, not anything related to your music.

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peterott
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:20 pm 
 

helvede wrote:
peterott wrote:
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Sorry peterott, Encyclopaedia Metallum was forced to reject your submission for the band Everlind (Sweden), for the following reason:

No proof of metalness provided.

If you want to object to this rejection, please do so in the appropriate thread in the Suggestions and Complaints sub-forum. Do not e-mail moderators directly about this.

Sincerely,
- Porman, Encyclopaedia Metallum
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=> I have never ever provided any proof of metalness for any of the 169 bands that I submitted to the Metal Archives, as I can't digitize cassettes. I only provide pics/logos/songtitles/musicians of the demos that are lying in front of me. If there is a problem to find something with google about the Melodic Black Metal band Everlind then yeah, sorry to the band, but I can't add them.


Probably our latest staffmembers don't really know you, but just re-submit, I never had any reason to question your submissions.


Re-submitted. Thanks to the new system, it saved all pics from the rejected band-submission, as I have deleted them already from my harddrive...
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PiotrB
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:27 pm 
 

peterott wrote:
Re-submitted. Thanks to the new system, it saved all pics from the rejected band-submission, as I have deleted them already from my harddrive...

Today I aproved your band and then realize that it was already in MA.
You made mistake in spelling.
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Adv ... 3540296331

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peterott
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:48 pm 
 

PiotrB wrote:
peterott wrote:
Re-submitted. Thanks to the new system, it saved all pics from the rejected band-submission, as I have deleted them already from my harddrive...

Today I aproved your band and then realize that it was already in MA.
You made mistake in spelling.
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Adv ... 3540296331


Jiiiiiiiha. Sorry for this.

@helvede: Thanks for accepting Everlind. Somehow the members got lost, so I added them again. Bit too complicated for me with all the save/save tab/sent/submit... ;)
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Helvede
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:57 pm 
 

Cheers

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Porman
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:01 pm 
 

Sorry, I was just following the guide in providing proof. But now I know.

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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:06 pm 
 

Third_of_the_Storms wrote:
Once again (since my last post was ignored) I will post a few tracks from Tony MacAlpine's new album

You can resubmit him.

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MalignantThrone
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:13 pm 
 

Two new songs from Kittie's new album:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYXFQ5y4iG4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_88SjOIv ... re=related

Would this be acceptable groove metal/metalcore?
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quadraphonicband
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:51 am 
 

Tonatiuth wrote:
quadraphonicband wrote:
What is the measurement of metalness anyways, i mean if you have a look at Fates Warning's stuff, from Parallels to FWX you cant really say that its pure metal, or if you look at Dream Theater's Falling into infinity that's not pure metal either. Most of Queensryche discography aswell. On the other hand they are considered metal.

There are not a lot of Progressive Metal bands that are pure metal. They wouldn't be progressive if they were. And i always thought that Metalheads all over the world stick up for each other and support each other. This is prejudice and immature, we are way beyond this bullocks so i dont give a rats ass if you reject us anymore.

with kind regards


One thing is Metalness and other different is Heavyness, progressive metal has metalness because it's elements, not for be heavy it's metal... that's why Suicide Silence by example is rejected, heavy but not metal... Fates Warning has at less 1 predominantly metal album and that's enough. Falling Into Infinity is here because it belongs to a metal band... if we just had the metal albums in the encyclopedia, only 1 cd would appear in Underoath by example, or the Metallica discography would be incomplete, same as Queensyrche, if we have a band on the archives we must add the full discography when at less 1 record is pure metal. By the way, I'm not a mod, but I believe that I'm right, if not.. please tell me.


What a load of bullocks, One album should be pure metal...

The first Dream Theater album When day and dream unite was not even remotely close to metal, more like a reincarnation of Rush. Besides there are a lot of bands out there who play Progressive Rock and have riffs heavier than many metal bands (for example King Crimson, Van der graff generator).
Bands like Queensryche started of with a metal album, that is true but they progressed into something unique that moves beyond the boundaries of "pure metal" with their following work.
Even Fates Warning started of with pure metal mentality but do you honestly think they kept playing that stuff til the end of their career? i think NOT.

And you tell me that if you just had metal albums in the encyclopedia only 1 cd would appear in underoath for example???
that should tell you something!!! that metal is not only metal, its a combination of many different elements.
to me if it makes you headbang while you listen to it, its metal enough!

Just because Quadraphonic didn't choose to start with a Judas Priest rippoff album does not make them less metal

Our song is Social Suicide not Suicide Silence! Learn to read, this shows how much you actually sat down and heard our music...

bolloks! Heavyness, metalness it makes no difference to me...

and YES! I HONESTLY THINK YOU ARE A MOD!!!!!


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MalignantThrone
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quadraphonicband wrote:
What a load of bullocks, The first album should be pure metal...

The first Dream Theater album When day and dream unite was not even remotely close to metal, more like a reincarnation of Rush. Besides there are a lot of bands out there who play Progressive Rock and have riffs heavier than many metal bands (for example King Crimson, Van der graff generator).
Bands like Queensryche started of with a metal album, that is true but they progressed into something unique that moves beyond the boundaries of "pure metal" with their following work.
Even Fates Warning started of with pure metal mentality but do you honestly think they kept playing that stuff til the end of their career? i think NOT.

And you tell me that if you just had metal albums in the encyclopedia only 1 cd would appear in underoath for example???
that should tell you something!!! that metal is not only metal, its a combination of many different elements.
to me if it makes you headbang while you listen to it, its metal enough!

Just because Quadraphonic choose to start with a Judas Priest rippoff album does not make them less metal

I'm not sure where you're going with this, but bottom line: if a band has ever released at least one metal album, regardless of whether that album was their first, third, or tenth, they will be accepted on the Metal-Archives.

quadraphonicband wrote:
Our song is Social Suicide not Suicide Silence! Learn to read, this shows how much you actually sat down and heard our music...

:lol: I believe there's a misunderstanding. Tonatiuth is referring to the deathcore band, not anything related to your music.
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and YES! I HONESTLY THINK YOU ARE A MOD!!!!!

He's not. Mods' usernames are in red up in the top-left corner of a post.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:15 am 
 

I Got this message: Sorry L0gisk, Encyclopaedia Metallum was forced to reject your submission for the band Mezmerizer (Denmark), for the following reason:

Please read our rules about the physical release. If this band has indeed released anything on a physical medium AND you can show us proof, you can resubmit it again.

I have now attached pictures of the physical release!

Sp will you now make Mezmerizer (Denmark) active on Encyclopaedia Metallum?

- L0gisk

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:54 am 
 

@L0gisk: You can resubmit. Next time please include such proof from the start.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:37 am 
 

neithan69 wrote:
Hello, I also would like to ask you guys to reconsider inclusion of the WHALESONG (Poland). Text from mail why it was rejected:

Sorry neithan69, Encyclopaedia Metallum was forced to reject your submission for the band Whalesong (Poland), for the following reason:

Not a metal band; does not belong on Encyclopaedia Metallum. Please read our rules next time to see what qualifies as metal.



We play industrial metal but not in Nine Inch Nails/Rammstein/KMFDM style - you wrote that bands like that will be rejected - OK, but we play in Godflesh/Dead World/Pitchshifter/Blacklodge style - and all those bands are here... I want to add that main thing that make us industrial is drum machine. There were and are many metal bands using that. A little bit more electronic sounding of it in some songs doesn't make the band non metal in my opinion.

I would like to ask you to reconsider WHALESONG again. Here's link to myspace where music is uploaded: http://www.myspace.com/whalesongofficial Here's also link to some live videos: http://www.youtube.com/whalesongofficial

I'm looking forward to your reply.

I don't know about other mods' opinions on this, but I rejected them because they sounded like industrial with highly rhythm-orientated heavy guitar chugging to me. Now I know that bands like Godflesh aren't exactly known for the melodic complexity of their riffs, but even within this stylistic context it's simply too far removed in terms of sonic landscape from what I would consider metal. I just checked out the whole EP via their Bandcamp page (I had only listened to three songs on their FB earlier) and there're two or three more metallic pieces there. Those songs could make the band a borderline case perhaps, but for me the impression as a whole hasn't changed.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 3:39 pm 
 

Could Nhor (UK) be removed from the black list? From a bit of research it seems they were ambient/acoustic guitar stuff but have put out a black metal album with hints of doom. Here are two samples:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ5IRwJRXMs

http://soundcloud.com/nhor/04-beneath-the-burial-leaves

The rest of the tracks are metal and I can provide a full link during the submission.

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elfstone321
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:44 pm 
 

hi, I have some questions about "the same band in queue by different users" (I know this have been discuted before), maybe some of my questions (will) sound stupid but I need to know (hope you answer)

first, according what I know, you see the same band in queue by some different users, then you will accept the band with the oldest date (but considering that the band with the oldest date have the enough proof, or/and have a considerable info) :
1.- is that true???, Something is missing (maybe the band with the oldest date need to have more info than the another(s) )?? example: you see one band in queue twice (different users obviosly) (and both with proof of release/metalness) but you see "the band with the oldest date" have not a lot data (no lyrical theme, no photo, etc) but the another have more info. which band will you accept??

2.- the rank/points/submitted bands of a user influece in which band will you accept?? example: same case two bands in queue, diffrent users, but the user with "the band with the oldest date" have no points, his rank is a Mallcore kid and have submitted no bands, but the another user have a rank a metal demon, many points, have submitted many band, I know that user since 2002. does that matter???

3.-the more fields filled the more chances have to get accepted than other who only filled the most importants/basic fields?

4.- a band need to be rejected al least once to get more chances to get accepted before???

5.- will you accept the band considering the user who show the "best proof/more proofs" (such as cd picture, links where is purchable the cd ) than the another who only show where to buy the cd??

I hope you answer, thanks

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Morrigan
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:31 am 
 

1) Generally, the older entry is accepted, but if the newer entry is significantly more complete in terms of info, this one will be accepted. It's also possible that a mod is browsing the band queue, sees incomplete entry #1, rejects (without knowing there's #2), then keeps browsing, and later stumbles upon entry #2, and accepts because it meets the rules.

2) Yes and no. A few users eventually become implicitly trusted, in the sense that we tend to give benefit of doubt if the band is borderline, but in the case of duplicate submissions, that doesn't mean their submissions are given the priority if it came -after- a newbie's submission. If the new user's submission is good, it stands on its own merits.

3) Yes.

4) Not at all. On the contrary, a previously rejected band will be met with more scrutiny/suspicion (depending on the circumstances) the next time around.

5) Honestly, I don't think duplicate submissions are that common, so I don't know what would happen, but well, see #1. The more complete the submission, the better.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:49 am 
 

3) A little note on this for the newer guys: please, complete all the info that's available in the band's websites. I'm sick of seeing submissions with no discography, members, links, etc and when I check their website I find all the info right there. Don't be lazy.
Also, links go in the "related links" tab, don't post all the band's websites in the moderator notes, that place is for proof of physical release and/or something you need to let the mod know directly.

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cry0fth3carr0ts
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 1:58 pm 
 

I would like the band Gaza to be reconsidered.

here are some examples:

Gaza (apparently not metal...?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnBoR8WUhj4
Engineer (you consider metal)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYYR_K19GOk
Gaza again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8e0dv9kOpY
Inevitable End (you consider metal)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-KITfFZinc

now the slower sludge side....
Gaza... i couldn't find the studio version on youtube :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuasYKJL8No
Clinging to the trees of a forest fire (you consider metal)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io2NB1Dwx3k


I cannot understand why bands like clinging to the trees of a forest fire, crowpath, the new inevitable end etc... are all considered "metal" and Gaza gets rejected for being metalcore. They are just as grind/funeral doom as CTTTOAFF, maybe not quite as sporadic as inevitable end (but they make up for it with a neurosis heaviness)... and how in the hell Engineer made it onto metal archives is just beyond me. Hell, how isis makes it onto metal archives is beyond me....

I guess I understand your "heavy vs metal-ness" argument but Engineer is really neither imo and isis or neurosis seem to null that argument either way..

one last thing.... http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Hev ... 3540292784

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MMisantropo
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:14 pm 
 

Dexter_prog wrote:
3) A little note on this for the newer guys: please, complete all the info that's available in the band's websites. I'm sick of seeing submissions with no discography, members, links, etc and when I check their website I find all the info right there. Don't be lazy.
Also, links go in the "related links" tab, don't post all the band's websites in the moderator notes, that place is for proof of physical release and/or something you need to let the mod know directly.


You don't need to worry about accepting those incomplete submissions though, 'cause there are always users checking the recently added bands for an opportunity to earn a few points.

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