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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:53 am 
 

All it takes to be accepted into the archives is one metal album. As sad as it is, sloth fulfills that criteria, therefore they stay.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:23 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
London (USA)- None of their albums is predominantly metal only DDon't Cry Wolf has one heavy metal song "Fas AS Light", the rest is glam/hard rock:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwEd6LlF-UA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaZ6JEX6mEg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAH966fNKQM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogAiqpb ... djgr-DkXxJ

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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:00 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
Witcher wrote:
London (USA)- None of their albums is predominantly metal only DDon't Cry Wolf has one heavy metal song "Fas AS Light", the rest is glam/hard rock:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwEd6LlF-UA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaZ6JEX6mEg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAH966fNKQM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogAiqpb ... djgr-DkXxJ


The same guy who thinks there is only one metallic song on this album submitted Trash from Sweden unironically.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:04 am 
 

How about letting the moderators to decide? And, please, keep your childish impertinences to yourself.

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Derigin
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:08 pm 
 

Says the guy who has repeatedly written his opinions in reports for other people's bands in the queue. Don't mini mod, OK?

On that note, London seems fine.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:20 pm 
 

I am not nini-modding, I am just defendingnyself against derogatory and personal remarks from other users. When you constantly do not understand , ewhat Iam meaning, why do you constantly comment on my remarks.? If there was no personal comment in that post, I would not respond to it.e my


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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:56 pm 
 

[quote="Witcher"]Release (USA): Even if it features former members of Anvil Chorus and Sacrilege B.C., that sound here is not thrash or heavy metal, but rather a mixture of nu-metal/alalternative rock and grunge, which is similar to bands like Mushroonhead or Tool:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G0gx27 ... 48Q81Xg_PI

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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:01 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
I am not nini-modding, I am just defendingnyself against derogatory and personal remarks from other users. When you constantly do not understand , ewhat Iam meaning, why do you constantly comment on my remarks.? If there was no personal comment in that post, I would not respond to it.e my


You're a hypocrite who shares his opinions all the time and then acts the victim when anyone criticizes you. Grow up.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:48 pm 
 

There a difference between voicing an opinionand making a derogatory personal comment. I was not taling about you in my original requeest, yet you choose to make the whole dispute highly personal by making a sarcastric remark about my metal knowledge. May I remind you, that ewhen I was still a moderator, you have sent mme a PM , telling me how, you admire my approach and my ex experience? Out of sight, Out of mind , I guess. It was actually me, who accepted London back then, unfortunately I had a limited access to their material back then and it wasnot a plight to provide full albus. back then. My wish to revisti this decision had nothing to do with you personally, but with the fact, that their album finally appeared fully on Youtube. I remember you also aas a quite hhumble guy from back then, so I am surprised by your newly found snobbishness and your recent high-nosed remarks. Finally, a guy, who is half my age, who tells me to grow up , makes me only shshrug my shoulder and laugh a bit. Please, keep me ffrom your antics next time, will you? I repeat, I did not wish to make the differing opinion on this band a personal issue.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:33 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
Projeto Eterno (Bra) : Pure hard rock with sometimes quite harsh vocals:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lEaMimzzHM

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0th
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:00 am 
 

Delete Atar-Hasis (Chile). Only 3 tracks from the album are available to download (now).

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Krister Jensen
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:22 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
Witcher wrote:
Projeto Eterno (Bra) : Pure hard rock with sometimes quite harsh vocals:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lEaMimzzHM

Removed.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:24 pm 
 

Thanks a lot, Krister.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:36 pm 
 

Hunting Season (Ger): it is not groove metal, but imo just modern metallic hardcore in the style of Madball or Biohazard. So if you please could look at it..
http://88nsm.com/3313-hunting-season-fe ... -2009.html
https://www.albumsdepot.com/albums/hunt ... he-return/
http://88nsm.com/3815-hunting-season-th ... -2011.html
https://www.albumsdepot.com/albums/hunt ... -haunting/
http://88nsm.com/3311-hunting-season-2n ... -2004.html
https://www.last.fm/music/Hunting+Season

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:33 pm 
 

World Hate Center (Ger): I have noticed, that there was already some dispute about the band's style in 2011, but back then , only two songs from the album wre provided. Hre is the complete album Reloaded and I think, that the style of the band is really predominantly a mix of rac and hatecore, as the download description says and onot thrash metal or predominantly metal for that matter:
https://www.rac-forum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=255

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BlackFlag
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:03 pm 
 

I was going to make a big update at this page:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/11_Bis/3540453129
but after listening to their album, I found myself wondering why they were included.

I suggest a second listening:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... fYDTzHYX2N

Heaviest tracks are 1, 2 & 6 (and track 1 has a strong Melodic Hard Rock vibe). I only hear classic hard rock with some metal leanings on concrete tracks (2, 6, maybe 1). There's also some prog and even funk. Track 9 is a cover of Grand Funk Railroad's We're an American Band.

If it stays, then OK, I'll update it, but Hard Rock should be added to the genre tag anyway.

By the way, this user, Afra0732, added a "guessed" lineup for the album.
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/1 ... abs_lineup

Thanks for your attention.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:27 pm 
 

Punch'N'Judy (Ger):
Actually a Deutschrock/Folk rock band in the style of In Extremo, Subway to Sally and Saltatio Mortis:
https://www.youtube.com/user/punchnjudyNEWs
https://open.spotify.com/artist/177zF3Sk96VelzRWJOnW5U

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Antioch
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:39 am 
 

Bumping this.
Antioch wrote:


Also:
I believe these two bands are the same:
- https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Regnvm/3540283254
- https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Re ... 3540393007

Members:
Same person
- https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/ ... nos/784469
- https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/ ... roy/326254

Same person
- https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/ ... era/784468
- https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/ ... B3n/433847
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Krister Jensen
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:50 pm 
 

Removed Apartheide, Russia. Punk with harsh vocals.
Removed Abizar, Russia. Ambient with a bit of metal.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:05 pm 
 

Skull (USA)- predominantly hard rock, except for the second song on the album. Here is the full album No Bones About It:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw2tf4yW61U

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Klaagzang
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 8:44 pm 
 

The 2019 EP release by https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ch ... 3540460623
is nearly an exact copy of "Return ov the Order" by Splinters of Death: https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/S ... rder/65846 in songtitles
and definitely contains the same music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvPkfQ9VWKc
https://parvenuproductions.bandcamp.com/track/enemy

Both projects seem to be some poorly executed joke. Also I'm unable to find any proof of physical releases by Splinters of Death and judging by uploaded videos of the band it seems to just be a gag project.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Oe73Wb0EFI

Maybe both should be deleted?

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Muhammadabbadabba
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:09 am 
 

I was going through some of the older posts ITT and found out there was quite the debate over Merauder. I fully support their inclusion into M-A, but what swayed the moderator consensus? To me, Merauder's riffs from Master Killer are evidently groove-based and even thrashy with songs like "Downfall of Christ" sounding like the first bridge to "Raining Blood". Was it a later album that made a stronger case for their inclusion?
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:26 am 
 

Antioch wrote:

All taken care of.

BlackFlag wrote:
I was going to make a big update at this page:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/11_Bis/3540453129
but after listening to their album, I found myself wondering why they were included.

I suggest a second listening:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... fYDTzHYX2N

Heaviest tracks are 1, 2 & 6 (and track 1 has a strong Melodic Hard Rock vibe). I only hear classic hard rock with some metal leanings on concrete tracks (2, 6, maybe 1). There's also some prog and even funk. Track 9 is a cover of Grand Funk Railroad's We're an American Band.

If it stays, then OK, I'll update it, but Hard Rock should be added to the genre tag anyway.

By the way, this user, Afra0732, added a "guessed" lineup for the album.
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/1 ... abs_lineup

Thanks for your attention.

It would seem the band was approved based on short samples. I've asked the two mods in question to have a look.

The user has already been warned about adding guesswork lineups.

Witcher wrote:
Skull (USA)- predominantly hard rock, except for the second song on the album. Here is the full album No Bones About It:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw2tf4yW61U

Deleted.


More later.
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Krister Jensen
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:34 pm 
 

Removed Lateless (Russia) - alternative/gothic rock.

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Shadechaser
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:50 am 
 

I was asking to remove one digital release because it was deleted from all servers by the band (because the only band member has asked me to remove it).
here is my report:
https://www.metal-archives.com/report/view/id/695113
unfortunately, the report was simply closed without giving a reason.
could you please explain this?

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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:09 am 
 

Shadechaser wrote:
I was asking to remove one digital release because it was deleted from all servers by the band (because the only band member has asked me to remove it).
here is my report:
https://www.metal-archives.com/report/view/id/695113
unfortunately, the report was simply closed without giving a reason.
could you please explain this?

Because we don't whitewash discographies. It was publicly released by the band and it wasn't even an accident that got fixed within minutes or so...it even has it's own artwork. Just because they don't want it to be available anymore, doesn't change the fact that it was officially released and should therefore be listed in their discography.
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Shadechaser
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:03 pm 
 

got it, thx...
though... actually I think things change sometimes not accordingly to the rules set by Metal Archives.
in particular, there's not such release now, but it's listed here.
I think that the band and it's member(s) are the one and only who should decide the destiny for their releases, don't you think so?
so it's strange to see it here knowing that it doesn't exist.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:33 pm 
 

Klaagzang wrote:
The 2019 EP release by https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ch ... 3540460623
is nearly an exact copy of "Return ov the Order" by Splinters of Death: https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/S ... rder/65846 in songtitles
and definitely contains the same music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvPkfQ9VWKc
https://parvenuproductions.bandcamp.com/track/enemy

Both projects seem to be some poorly executed joke. Also I'm unable to find any proof of physical releases by Splinters of Death and judging by uploaded videos of the band it seems to just be a gag project.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Oe73Wb0EFI

Maybe both should be deleted?

Agreed, I've deleted both.
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Woodgod
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:11 am 
 

Not sure if this is the right place, but I'm not sure Mike Tramp (of White Lion) should be included on the site. He doesn't seem to be linked to any metal bands, or at least none with pages here. https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/ ... amp/148955

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Krister Jensen
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:53 am 
 

Woodgod wrote:
Not sure if this is the right place, but I'm not sure Mike Tramp (of White Lion) should be included on the site. He doesn't seem to be linked to any metal bands, or at least none with pages here. https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/ ... amp/148955

Correct, orphan entry, removed.

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Shadechaser
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:55 pm 
 

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Heruka/3540458120
one track is metal, one is ambient.
summarily, too short release, I guess.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:30 pm 
 

11 Bis has been deleted. Indeed more rock than metal.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:27 am 
 

Meridian (Australia( - this is actually pure gothic rock in style of The Sisters Of Mercy, not gothic metal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKaVYi6qn-0

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Shadechaser
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:29 am 
 

Shadechaser wrote:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Heruka/3540458120
one track is metal, one is ambient.
summarily, too short release, I guess.

no reaction during a week. will anybody answer?

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Krister Jensen
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:13 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
Meridian (Australia( - this is actually pure gothic rock in style of The Sisters Of Mercy, not gothic metal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKaVYi6qn-0

Removed.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:40 am 
 

Thanks a lot, Krister.

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Midnightwards666
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:48 pm 
 

Shadechaser wrote:
Shadechaser wrote:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Heruka/3540458120
one track is metal, one is ambient.
summarily, too short release, I guess.

no reaction during a week. will anybody answer?

You shouldn't bump unless your post gets lost on the previous page... and there were only 2 posts above! Will anybody answer? Unless you improve your patience, the answer could well end up being no.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:59 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
Muhammadabbadabba wrote:
Required Fields wrote:
I know Witcher seems to be trying to get the site to weed out National Socialist/white supremacist bands, because too many were deemed to be more punk than metal. Here's one I saw that seems to fit the bill, at least in terms of being a white supremacist act (not sure about the music).

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Bl ... ngth/58353

What proof is there it is actually black/death metal? They supposedly recorded an album that was never released, and a demo that was never released. No band member information is available (if they had members listed, and others were members of some other bands here, that would increase the likelihood in believing this is metal). Has anyone actually heard them? How do we know the music contents are indeed death/black metal?

No links are listed, so what proof do we have this is metal?

Here's another band listed as black metal, but no albums listed in the discography section.

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Or ... anco/30328

What proof is there the band did indeed play black metal?


I'm absolutely convinced Orgullo Blanco is fake since the submitter is "ArchDevil", one of the many pseudonyms used by Bathym of Perdition. Bathym claimed Kenny Greene was an old friend and bandmate in Perdition, but when asked for photos, he included a picture of actor Michael Bailey Smith.
https://www.discogs.com/artist/1005835-Arch-Devil
https://www.discogs.com/Perdition-Death ... se/5635099

Exact photo of Michael Bailey Smith used:
https://fanpix.famousfix.com/gallery/mi ... /p10129811

"Axis Power Records" was a fictional label created by Bathym. Another user who's no longer here and I were both privy to Bathym's many elaborate hoaxes and bizarre claims, not the least of which included releasing other bands' respective discographies as either his own or one of the many "bands" signed onto his label Rusted Nails Records. For example, RNR "band" Parthenon is, in fact, a Greek jazz-fusion group called Άβατον [Avaton / Abaton].

Perdition was removed from Metal-Archives many moons ago after found to have been faked. Perdition's sole Black Metal demo "Forgotten Rites" is certainly Metal, but the song "Ritual Rape" has been proven to be Nosvrolok's "Winds of the Cursed" with Bathym shrieking over it, which led us to believe the other material on said demo was forged from other releases. At one point, Bathym claimed a guitarist in Perdition called "The Unknown" was a member of Nosvrolok, but considering his established reputation as less-than-reliable on account of his chronic asspained over being unpersoned by FMP, I surmised this was either another one of his many tall tales or one of Nosvrolok's crew deciding on a whim to hand Bathym a demo/rehearsal version to have fun with. The latter assumption is based solely on the fact that both Perdition and Nosvrolok were from California (which lends only a tiny shred of plausibility), so I put my money on the former.

In any case, Bathym has been guilty of doing this several times over. Bergen Belsen SS, Quisling and Muslimcorpse were all fake bands with no known releases. Bathym has claimed bands purportedly from locatoins as far away as South Africa and Latin America were also part of his Anti-Wulfhere Front with absolutely no substantiating evidence.

I highly doubt Orgullo Blanco is real.


In tthe light of all this, vcan the band Orgullo Blanco be lolooked on again? When I was a moderator, I have renoved two of bands submitted by ArchDevil for being fake. They were the "nsbm" bands Quiling and Bergen Belsen SS. He even placed the latter band on his USBM list, which he maintained at the time and created a fake biograpy and membes for it, such as the guitarist Paul "Spicslayer" Carter. There sistill could be traces of both bands being listed here in the database or not? I am no computer expert.

Repost from the previous page.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:14 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
Release (USA): Even if it features former members of Anvil Chorus and Sacrilege B.C., that sound here is not thrash or heavy metal, but rather a mixture of nu-metal/alalternative rock and grunge, which is similar to bands like Mushroonhead or Tool:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G0gx27 ... 48Q81Xg_PI

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 7:42 am 
 

Deleted Tonspektrum. The project appears to have no valid releases, the only qualifying releases are digital reissues of Persophone albums at this point.
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