I've removed band Dreszcz from Poland.
It's a hard rock band.
On Metal Archives with two fake releases.
The only thing what they had was on the MySpace page.
Added in 2005 by Piecyk666. For me the not a reliable guy at all.
Ones he faked his own band. Took music from band from Chicago and put his vocals.
Send it to the zines etc.

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Anti-Ben/74299

This, I think, is one of those “joke bands” (think Chainsaw Penis). Almost zero metal in their music. I frankly have no idea how they made it to the Archives.

https://archive.org/details/TFR88-Anti- ... Lives-2001
https://archive.org/details/TFR85-Anti- ... sacre-2002
https://archive.org/details/TFR234-Anti ... dBenHatred
https://archive.org/details/TFR87-Anti- ... arget-2001
https://archive.org/details/TFR84-Anti- ... ayers-2003

All five are random poorly played experimental weirdness, with maybe one or two metal songs per album.

Removed Hreswelgr (Belarus), predominantly ambient.

I like Octobre & les Sales Bâtards (or simply Octobre), but is this really Black Metal? I don't think so. As Muloc7254 put it, "the riffs and song structures are Oi!, the delivery, atmosphere and vocals are black metal."

Is this being allowed as a side-project?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbuAFmVuLSQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGwdBAB4mHo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO4UaXjbOcE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XVQkk3iGUY

Hey, I bring back on the table "Black Death" : https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Black_Death/45680
But I'd like to add Cocytus : https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Cocytus/48699 and https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ka ... ab_members

I have already posted Black Death here long time ago (maybe a year?) and a mod told me that he was looking for the samples or anything, can't really remember. So I repost this with 2 other bands of the same guy. There's nothing I can found about these three bands, no samples, no reviews or anything. I know that we don't judge a band by its graphics but let's get serious. Look at these graphics, logo, pictures cover arts... This really looks to have been made quickly for the submission. Look at these logos seriously... It was accepted in 2005 maybe at the time the material required was less important. I'm almost sure that these bands don't exist, and if a sample was given it was probably only one track quickmade, or a stolen track from another underground real artist. Moreover I can't find a single physical release, there's no webiste, no "digital release" and indeed no CDs/Tapes... I think that "Subliminal Message" from the same guy should be nuked too. Only Midian seems to really have released something and I can remember listening to something of this project some years ago.

Someone should really check out these projects, and it would be perfect to find provided samples when it was submitted (if it's possible) because for me these are clearly fake projects with nothing realeased.

Removed Shakra (Switzerland) - pure hard rock with just a couple of metal songs throughout the whole discography.

Removed Lahannya (UK) - alternative rock/modern hard rock (Midnight Rider and myself)

Removed.

Many thanks, Krister, here is another problematic Russian band, which was submitted by the same user, who has submitted many of the problematic Armour Get Dawn bands. Crucial for the judgement are the 2003 album Sudba moj rasy and the 2007 album, since their early stuff is pure punk, which is lightyears away from metal. Example of the early suff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NXKW3fbop0

The 2007 album is pretty riffy actually, it's really thrashy and sounds predominantly metal to me, Witcher.

O.K., nevermind about Vandal, thanks for their review, but I think, that at least their genre should be updated to signify, that only their last album is metal.

Here is the last Russian band from my list of older posts: Kolovrat. I am aware , that they have a huge discography, but I have my doubts expressed above.

Should possible parody band Batyuska (https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ba ... 3540458107) be on the archives?

It sounds like metal at first given the crunchy guitar sounds, but much of their music sounds like some synthesized heavy droning ambient/noise music mishmash with no real riffs. For the majority of their songs, the rhythm guitar goes absolutely nowhere with no discernible riffing or pattern. Same with their tremolo picking (which I sometimes cant tell if its actual tremolo picking or the synthesized choir they have running in the background)

Out of their four albums (could be ten by the time I write this lol), I guess Апостол is probably the closest to acceptable IMO, but it sounds borderline due to the ambient-leaning droning parts in the album.

It sucks, but it's metal

Deleted Kubark (ita). Post-rock.

Put down Frozen Night (USA). Symphonics and barely any metal riffing. That's one less brony band on the archives.

eightball Cholos (USA)
It is not death metal or sludge metal, but industrial/nu-metal:

http://bkmusic777.blogspot.com/2015/06/ ... -1996.html

Removed Markize, France. Alternative rock.

Removed The Entity, Norway. Alternative rock.

Pigmy Love Circus (USA): They don't play heavy metal, but a mixture of hard rock, punk and dirty rock'n'roll.Their style is similar to bands like The Hellacopters and Gluecifer: https://open.spotify.com/artist/5tjsedfU7o47dsBydPtt6T
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7TLQr ... 7xtQfAzBkg
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX3h8Y ... ove+circus

Razor Maid (USA): hard rock, not heavy metal. StyStylewise reminiscent of Ratt's Out Of The Cellar album. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lSlES9moFo

I am noticing, that there still is no reaction on the previous bands that me and other users have posted on the last three pages, so if please somebody started going through them, that would be great. OtOtherwise thepassong weeks aare already turning into months and pprobably eve a year...

Do you ever stop whining?

I am adressing a real problem and it was acknowledged, that this problem exists , when i posted about it in another thread on the page. That the bands are waiting here for months and some even get overlooked is an objective fact. I have proposed a possible solution in the other thread. It is therefore only natural, that I complain , when the problem still persists.
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=78736&p=2865191#p2865191

I second this. Personally, I think it would be cool if this thread was handled in a similar way to the new band appeals layout.

(Also, Witcher, how much attention do you pay to your typing?)

The typing mistakes are secondary, I am sight -handicapped and cannot directly see, what I write, so the main thing is to make the message understandable. I only mention it here, because you have asked, since it is really off-topic in this thread. I have corrected most typos in my post, but a doubled lletter here and there or a wrongly placed dot are not so tragic in my opinion.

For now, we don't have any plan of having a forum instead of this thread.

Personally, I'd argue against it anyway. Institutionalizing the process for appealing bands on the blacklist is fine; the presumption is that there's new information we should look at to review the band and possibly find it eventually acceptable. Adopting a similar practice for cleansing the Archive of existing bands would formalize a process of second-guessing the decisions of moderators. Having an informal thread like this where we allow users to question us, with or without an expectation of an answer, is more than fine. Making it another duty of ours to feel obligated to justify every decision we make at the whim of every user is not more than fine. Besides, I'd much rather not see us make it a regular practice of having users question every decision we make, and unfortunately having a dedicated forum for doing that would be a nightmare. Other folks may disagree with me here, and that's of course fine.

Thanks for the reply, Derigin. IIn that case, perhaps the idea of Droneriot , expressed in the thread below, should be ggiven a thought. Spilliting the existing thread in two, one for bands, that potentially are not metal and the other for bands without releases and fake/fictional bands, would potentially also make thereview of the suggested bands much easier. Please, see here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=78736&p=2865191#p2865191

Deathorgy (UK)

I submitted this band before (9 Sep. 2014), and got rejected by three mods for the reason "too makeshift/rehearsal to qualify for digital only acceptance". I respect the decision that was made. But recently another submission of this band got accepted by two mods. So if it is eventually being judged as an eligible digital-only band, my submission shouldn't get accepted instead?

Just catching up on the backlog...


This is fine. Stays.


Tossed.


Tossed.


Tossed.


Tossed.


As mods, we assume our predecessors that approved these bands did so in good faith, meaning that they had a valid physical release. We can't presume that because there's a lack of information now that there wasn't information then. The bands look suspect, sure, but also considering the fact they were submitted at different times... there's a case to be made that the band did in fact release something. That is unless we fucked up three times in a row; not impossible, but also highly unlikely. The town where the artist is located is not a big town at all. Surely, someone in that community could provide much needed input here as far as whether they've heard of this guy, or might even know how to contact him or someone associated with him. That would be the best way forward here.


Sigh. So in the case of Kolovrat, I agree, the music since 2004 is much more -core. The band was accepted on material released before then. Of the albums we've heard, there's a mix of thrash influence and RAC/Hatecore. This is a project we're discussing among staff. Stay tuned.


Both files are password protected for me.


This is fine. Stays.


Tossed.


Yeah, yours shouldn't have been rejected in hindsight. Apologies. I've awarded you the points for it. It appears multiple mods ruled that the band was acceptable after all.

With the exception of Kolovrat, which is being reviewed, I consider this thread updated to this point. If there's any bands we've missed, please feel free to make a new post about them.

Kolovrat/Коловрат has been tossed per a review conducted by staff. RAC/Hatecore with some thrash influences. No album stood out as predominantly, undoubtedly metal.

Alright, thanks Derigin.

Thanks a lot, Derigin, for taking care of all those bands. The password for Eightball Cholos is 2015
http://bkmusic777.blogspot.com/2015/06/ ... -1996.html
There are still about three or four unreviewed bands, which I will repost shortly. Thanks again.

Swamps (USA): Beatdown Hardcore:
https://swampsma.bandcamp.com/
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That's about all for now.

A new one: Obled (Poland)
This is not groove metal, but a mixture of OI!/RAC and dirty ¨rock 'n' roll:
http://88nsm.com/9999-obled-discography-2011-2015.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIMedcqEBc8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZmXz34E84o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEM63sDgBM4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLaUqXWW4BY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeFKaVLV8Aw

This is fine. Stays.


Both tossed.


Tossed.


This is fine. Stays.


This was accepted on the 2016 album, which is fine. Stays.

I consider this thread updated to this point.

I think , that this request has some merit. Here is the album, upon which Rorschach was allegedly accepted, Protestant. There are hints of something sludgy, but...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dyprzmd3rVw

That Rorschach album was assessed by four mods and every single one thought it was acceptable, riffing-wise. Close enough to more technical forms of death metal. The band stays.