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Krister Jensen
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:03 am 
 

Removed The Perfect Balance (Russia), insignificant name change.

Removed, Асмодеевы Крылья (Russia), insignificant name change.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:15 am 
 

Regarding Aegaeon : Here is their debut e.p., because the link on Youtube does not work. Frankly, I do not understand, why the staff should review their entire discography, when this, a quite substantial physical release of ssix tracks is clearly based in technical death metal, as Tstealth himself admits: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4ORCG ... 270dM01VWc

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ᴎostalgiʞK
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:21 am 
 

Hello folks!

Krister Jensen wrote:
Removed The Perfect Balance (Russia), insignificant name change.

Removed, Асмодеевы Крылья (Russia), insignificant name change.


Kristen I got a question, if a band has significant albums under a name and it was insignificantly changed but therefore released more (or less, quite) material, for example.
"Band: Method, released 3 EP and 1 Full-lenght > changed name to The Method and has released 5 ep's and 2 full-lenght under a different metal genre/borderline or brutal" It wouldn't be feasible to delete The Method, it wasn't the case isn't it? I mean, Асмодеевы Крылья and The Perfect Balance had the same exactly material with the same line-up, production, work, genre, place and label?
Sorry for my bad explanation.
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Krister Jensen
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:25 pm 
 

Well yes, it depends on the details and the genre is one of them of course. As a good example, see Covenant / The Kovenant, where along with the name, the genre and the overall appearance was also changed, so it is rather convenient to keep both entries. Regarding the bands I've removed it is the same line-up, appearance, genre, location, label, which makes it an insignificant name change.

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deathbyschuldiner
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:20 pm 
 

[quote="Azmodes"]Deleted King's X after we recently went through their entire discography. Pretty much a rock band; not a single album is predominantly metal, most not even remotely so. Another regrettable oversight that has endured for almost a decade and a half. The various ostensibly non-metal solo- and side-projects connected to it that are also included are probably gonna go soon as well. EDIT: Jughead, Jerry Gaskill and Ty Tabor deleted.


Lol wow. Why is Rush on here again?

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Krister Jensen
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:30 pm 
 

Use the search or read the rules. And mind the tone please.

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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:01 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
That Rorschach album was assessed by four mods and every single one thought it was acceptable, riffing-wise. Close enough to more technical forms of death metal. The band stays.


My reasons for submitting was that it reminded me a lot of later era Death, my two cents.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:43 pm 
 

Muhammadabbadabba wrote:
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I know Witcher seems to be trying to get the site to weed out National Socialist/white supremacist bands, because too many were deemed to be more punk than metal. Here's one I saw that seems to fit the bill, at least in terms of being a white supremacist act (not sure about the music).

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Bl ... ngth/58353

What proof is there it is actually black/death metal? They supposedly recorded an album that was never released, and a demo that was never released. No band member information is available (if they had members listed, and others were members of some other bands here, that would increase the likelihood in believing this is metal). Has anyone actually heard them? How do we know the music contents are indeed death/black metal?

No links are listed, so what proof do we have this is metal?

Here's another band listed as black metal, but no albums listed in the discography section.

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Or ... anco/30328

What proof is there the band did indeed play black metal?


I'm absolutely convinced Orgullo Blanco is fake since the submitter is "ArchDevil", one of the many pseudonyms used by Bathym of Perdition. Bathym claimed Kenny Greene was an old friend and bandmate in Perdition, but when asked for photos, he included a picture of actor Michael Bailey Smith.
https://www.discogs.com/artist/1005835-Arch-Devil
https://www.discogs.com/Perdition-Death ... se/5635099

Exact photo of Michael Bailey Smith used:
https://fanpix.famousfix.com/gallery/mi ... /p10129811

"Axis Power Records" was a fictional label created by Bathym. Another user who's no longer here and I were both privy to Bathym's many elaborate hoaxes and bizarre claims, not the least of which included releasing other bands' respective discographies as either his own or one of the many "bands" signed onto his label Rusted Nails Records. For example, RNR "band" Parthenon is, in fact, a Greek jazz-fusion group called Άβατον [Avaton / Abaton].

Perdition was removed from Metal-Archives many moons ago after found to have been faked. Perdition's sole Black Metal demo "Forgotten Rites" is certainly Metal, but the song "Ritual Rape" has been proven to be Nosvrolok's "Winds of the Cursed" with Bathym shrieking over it, which led us to believe the other material on said demo was forged from other releases. At one point, Bathym claimed a guitarist in Perdition called "The Unknown" was a member of Nosvrolok, but considering his established reputation as less-than-reliable on account of his chronic asspained over being unpersoned by FMP, I surmised this was either another one of his many tall tales or one of Nosvrolok's crew deciding on a whim to hand Bathym a demo/rehearsal version to have fun with. The latter assumption is based solely on the fact that both Perdition and Nosvrolok were from California (which lends only a tiny shred of plausibility), so I put my money on the former.

In any case, Bathym has been guilty of doing this several times over. Bergen Belsen SS, Quisling and Muslimcorpse were all fake bands with no known releases. Bathym has claimed bands purportedly from locatoins as far away as South Africa and Latin America were also part of his Anti-Wulfhere Front with absolutely no substantiating evidence.

I highly doubt Orgullo Blanco is real.


In tthe light of all this, vcan the band Orgullo Blanco be lolooked on again? When I was a moderator, I have renoved two of bands submitted by ArchDevil for being fake. They were the "nsbm" bands Quiling and Bergen Belsen SS. He even placed the latter band on his USBM list, which he maintained at the time and created a fake biograpy and membes for it, such as the guitarist Paul "Spicslayer" Carter. There sistill could be traces of both bands being listed here in the database or not? I am no computer expert.

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Lord_Of_Diamonds
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:34 pm 
 

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Taser/3540411751

This one is Tool-style power chords and pseudo-metal riffs; I think it swings into non-metal territory enough to be removed.

Also, I'm bumping this one:

Lord_Of_Diamonds wrote:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Anti-Ben/74299

This, I think, is one of those “joke bands” (think Chainsaw Penis). Almost zero metal in their music. I frankly have no idea how they made it to the Archives.

https://archive.org/details/TFR88-Anti- ... Lives-2001
https://archive.org/details/TFR85-Anti- ... sacre-2002
https://archive.org/details/TFR234-Anti ... dBenHatred
https://archive.org/details/TFR87-Anti- ... arget-2001
https://archive.org/details/TFR84-Anti- ... ayers-2003

All five are random poorly played experimental weirdness, with maybe one or two metal songs per album.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:25 pm 
 

Anti-Ben have already been deleted. They were mentioned in Derigin's lengthy post on the previous page.
Here is the fullTaser album The Electric Storm: https://taser.bandcamp.com/releases

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:13 pm 
 

Projeto Eterno (Bra) : Pure hard rock with sometimes quite harsh vocals:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lEaMimzzHM

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:35 am 
 

Release (USA): Even if it features former members of Anvil Chorus and Sacrilege B.C., that sound here is not thrash or heavy metal, but rather a mixture of nu-metal/alalternative rock and grunge, which is similar to bands like Mushroonhead or Tool:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G0gx27 ... 48Q81Xg_PI

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Blood-N-Fire (USA)- pure hard rock on both albums, not heavy metal:
http://gospeldownloadfree.blogspot.com/ ... -rock.html

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deathbyschuldiner
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:32 am 
 

Krister Jensen wrote:
Use the search or read the rules. And mind the tone please.



Did the users who had given their thoughts and reviews on this band mind having their thoughts wiped out completely? I know people who painstakingly torture themselves trying to push out a coherent, legible, summarisation of a product or event, etc. Atleast these things could be archived.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:52 am 
 

All the entry's reviews were sent to their respective authors, provided working contact data was still available.
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Krister Jensen
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:27 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
Blood-N-Fire (USA)- pure hard rock on both albums, not heavy metal:
http://gospeldownloadfree.blogspot.com/ ... -rock.html


Removed, EP is not metal as well.

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Krister Jensen
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:10 am 
 

Removed Гвардия (Gvardiya), Russia - more rock than metal.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:38 pm 
 

London (USA)- None of their albums is predominantly metal only DDon't Cry Wolf has one heavy metal song "Fas AS Light", the rest is glam/hard rock:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwEd6LlF-UA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaZ6JEX6mEg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAH966fNKQM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogAiqpb ... djgr-DkXxJ

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:48 am 
 

Scarlet Red (USA)- pure hard rock, except for the song "Fight Fire":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMj3vXt ... PDGXfHT51v

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Lord_Of_Diamonds
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 4:40 pm 
 

This is the third time that I am asking for Helmet to be removed. Previous conversations with mods on the site have told me that they were accepted based on "Meantime", which is both non-metallic and the closest that Helmet has ever come to metal. Their music on that album, and on all other albums of their besides, is pure alternative rock/post-hardcore and has no place on a site with rules such as this one.

You can't tell me with a straight face that this is "heavy/groove metal":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOP6G4FYdOU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB0wd12NBlc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NMTRnHhV0M

As you can see, this is clearly more based in hard rock chords/3-note guitar percussion that isn't metal at all. Perhaps the Meantime album has a few metal songs and riffs, but not nearly enough for them to be allowed on here based on that one album. If Helmet can find a place in the Archives based on those few metal songs, then Nirvana can find a place in the Archives based on Bleach.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:06 pm 
 

You seriously need to stop asking if mods have already told you twice that a band isn't going to be removed.

Yeesh, talk about entitlement.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:06 pm 
 

Lord_Of_Diamonds wrote:
This is the third time that I am asking for Helmet to be removed.

Seems like your contribution left unnoticed some.
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joecubbie
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:42 pm 
 

OpsiusCato wrote:
Lord_Of_Diamonds wrote:
This is the third time that I am asking for Helmet to be removed.

Seems like your contribution left unnoticed some.


I see what you did there :lol:

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Manic Maniac
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:15 pm 
 

Exactly which album was helmet accepted for? I just listened to Meantime and it's just ordinary alternative rock.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:42 pm 
 

Thank you very much for further derailing this thread and overshadowing the legitimate requests. :roll: :violin:

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Manic Maniac
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:33 pm 
 

How is that derailment? This thread literally has "Why was band X accepted?" in the title. I don't know what's so off topic about my post. Maybe it was the typo "excepted" for "accepted" that confused you? Well, it's corrected now.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:10 pm 
 

Your question was already answered multiple times in the past. Please, read again Derigin's answer to Lord Of diamonds. It is a moderator's job to explain it to youm, not mine. Your post is so pointless and brings noly the staff attention from seserious requests about bands, which have not been reviewed in this thread before.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:25 pm 
 

Manic Maniac wrote:
Exactly which album was helmet accepted for? I just listened to Meantime and it's just ordinary alternative rock.

It was "Meantime" that got them accepted and admittedly, it is pretty much as borderline as it could possibly be. Yet slightly more Groove Metal than Alt/something.

Witcher wrote:
Your question was already answered multiple times in the past. Please, read again Derigin's answer to Lord Of diamonds. It is a moderator's job to explain it to youm, not mine. Your post is so pointless and brings noly the staff attention from seserious requests about bands, which have not been reviewed in this thread before.

Oh, shut up.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:52 am 
 

What album from The Almighty is metal? What i heard from them is about as metal as Rolling Stones with flannel shirts.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:54 am 
 

I have accepted them back then based on the Powertrippin' album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OTm7XPVL4E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OTm7XPVL4E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG-GnR5Qj5k

The Crank album is also in similar style, evenif it has also some punk influences: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qcR42FAtIg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBi0MvueMu0

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:14 pm 
 

Edelweiss (Ger):
Their first album, Der Kampf geht weiter, is pure rac/oi! and their following albums contain a mixture of hatecore, nu-metal and even some industrial/gothic. The nu-metal tag may seem a bit strange, but their mid-ttempo parts on albums like "Evangelium" really seems to be influenced by the riff style of Slipknot, Korn and Mudvayne.
https://www.solargeneral.org/wp-content ... vangelium/
http://88nsm.com/7472-edelweiss-discogr ... -2008.html

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Witcher wrote:
Edelweiss (Ger):
Their first album, Der Kampf geht weiter, is pure rac/oi! and their following albums contain a mixture of hatecore, nu-metal and even some industrial/gothic. The nu-metal tag may seem a bit strange, but their mid-ttempo parts on albums like "Evangelium" really seems to be influenced by the riff style of Slipknot, Korn and Mudvayne.
https://www.solargeneral.org/wp-content ... vangelium/
http://88nsm.com/7472-edelweiss-discogr ... -2008.html

I messaged Zodijackyl about Edelweiss eons ago because I felt the genre field didn't quite reflect their decidedly diverse style. It went unresolved because we couldn't nail down their style without creating a wilderness of genre descriptors.

If you ask me, Absolution is their most Metal release, although Evangelium isn't too lacking for Metal. Haven't listened to their most recent album, so that'll be due for a listen. Pretty confident they can stay.

Zodijackyl and I agreed that their music is primarily a mix of Thrash and RAC with an undercurrent of Groove Metal and Death Metal (especially on Absolution), but Evangelium left us flummoxed. It's like the band decided to add some hints of Absurd and bouncy Finnblack with modern Metal and Saga/Symphony of Sorrow.

EDIT: Just listened to Leidkultur. Very confident they can stay. This one's much more Black Metal influenced complete with tremolo picked lines and the like.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:03 pm 
 

Muhammadabbadabba wrote:
Zodijackyl and I agreed that their music is primarily a mix of Thrash and RAC


Yeah, pretty much. I referenced our conversation in 2017. The music is acceptable. There's a bunch of other influences in there, but they can't be easily captured in a genre listing.

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Shadechaser
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:18 am 
 

why was the band Shadowmass accepted?
debut album is to be released on 1st of December either on CD and digital platforms, as said on their facebook and label's bancamp
https://somanrecords.bandcamp.com/album/shadowmass
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 8513829195

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:41 am 
 

The digital release is already available.
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Shadechaser
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:02 am 
 

it's available only for streaming on label's bancamp.
could you please give any other source for downloading?

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:40 am 
 

You don't see the download option on Bandcamp? It was made available on October 21st.
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Shadechaser
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:14 am 
 

oh.
it's really there.
my eyes lied to me, sorry )
to prevent such mistakes in future, please clarify: can I submit a band if it is available for purchasing (digital version) despite it's release date on bancamp hasn't come yet?
can I use "publish_date" option of the page's internal code as well?

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:31 am 
 

Yes, regardless of what the release date given on the page may say, we go by, well, reality. If something is up for full download, then that's fine.

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can I use "publish_date" option of the page's internal code as well?

Yes.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:34 pm 
 

got it. thanks.

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Mole666
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:31 am 
 

Sloth - can we now remove them as their shitty wall noise material now outways their contribution to metal?

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