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0th
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 7:33 pm 
 

We accept digital two-song single or two (or more) singles because of the good quality and the serious cover art.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:00 am 
 

Witcher wrote:

Edit: Additional downloads:
http://www.rac-forum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2841
https://www.bitchute.com/video/yc7TDqwRG3L5/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/nhFbQeiFCeHq/

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:58 am 
 

Deleted Living Gate (United States). The Bandcamp says "There are 3 tracks up right now I will be adding two more soon once there are finished being mastered.", which indicates that the demo is not finished yet.

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Funeral_Inception
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:13 pm 
 

Ain't it funny that bands like Rush or Deep Purple are listed (as metal bands) but bands like Between the Buried and Me, Meshuggah, even Slipknot and KoRn (and many, many more) are not metal enough? What a hypocrisy ...

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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:31 pm 
 

Meshuggah is here, though.
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Dickpenis
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:19 am 
 

Funeral_Inception wrote:
Rush or Deep Purple

Interesting. Wondering based on which release DP are on here. And why Led Zeppelin are not, despite being much harder and more relevant for the evolution of metal.
Spoiler: show
And also I'm an inclusionist and wouldn't delete any bands that made it onto here and would also include Nu Metal. And Grind like Rompeprop.

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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:04 pm 
 

Funeral_Inception wrote:
Ain't it funny that bands like Rush or Deep Purple are listed (as metal bands) but bands like Between the Buried and Me, Meshuggah, even Slipknot and KoRn (and many, many more) are not metal enough? What a hypocrisy ...

No, it ain't funny, because this has already been discussed to death and beyond.
Read the rules:
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Mötley Crüe, Deep Purple, Rainbow, Scorpions and Rush (among a few examples) are not considered metal by some. Understandable, as their music and heaviness varied and was debatable at times. But what they sometimes lacked in "metalness", they made for in historical importance, and they are there to stay. That doesn't mean we're going to accept any glam or hippie rock bands though, and they are about as "borderline" as we are going to have.
They are exceptions. You might not agree. Tough shit.


Also, yeah, Meshuggah is listed, but for their early works, not the Djent stuff they do nowadays.

As for the Led Zeppelin bit, check here:
viewtopic.php?f=27&t=124051
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:04 pm 
 

Might Of Rage /Germany(- LLast time I brought up the band, I had only three songs available, and the review ended rather inconclusive. Now I have found all their three albums and i must say, that their first album from 1999is mostly pure New York style hardcore in the style of Sick Of It All and smilar, while the other two albums are mmodern style metallic hardcore in the style of Hatebreed , biohazard and Madball. So, please, if you could look at it:
http://rac-forum.org/forum/showthread.p ... 7&langid=9
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https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Mi ... Rage/28697


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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:33 am 
 

ThStealthP wrote:
More gothic rock here:
Aura+ (Bosnia and Herzegovina):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyufaJfw08Q

I checked the other album and some stuff from the demos too and it's indeed not predominantly metal by a long shot. Deleted.

ThStealthP wrote:
Deathcamp Project (Poland): Industrial/Electronic/Indie/Goth Rock:
https://deathcampproject.bandcamp.com/

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Witcher wrote:
Uncontrollable (USA): Predominantly hard rock
http://aornightdrive.blogspot.com/2020/ ... -1985.html

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joecubbie wrote:
I can't find samples of their prior three albums, but based off this one, I don't think SoulMotor is acceptable. There's some Alice in Chains/Black Label Society riffs scattered about, but this sounds much more in common with Papa Roach style radio rock. If it is somehow acceptable HM/HR, then the genre label should be changed from "progressive metal".

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=O ... aJWnjyPo9k

You're probably right, from what I've sampled, but considering it was added based on at least one of the albums we don't have samples for, I'll keep looking for those. If nothing comes up I might just delete it to be on the safe side.

TheGrimWombat wrote:
Meshuggah is here, though.

And we even have a Slipknot and two Disturbed's! I don't know what more people want.
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Antioch
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:46 am 
 

Concerning SoulMotor, I have Revolution Wheel, but I've had my CDs in boxes for a while now. I'll try to find it, but I do remember it not being metal. It's grungy hard rock as joe more or less noted.
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN7Pq2jb84Q
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f0E-I4D6Ss
I'm not familiar with their earlier stuff, though.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:57 am 
 

Ah well, I already found and ordered Revolution Wheel and the self-titled for cheap on Discogs. :) Almost definitely deletable, but it's nice to have a hard basis for nuking it.
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ThStealthP
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 9:13 am 
 

13 Killings (USA): Metalcore predominantly core with the structure songs on their first album, not certainly metal on their second album:
https://www.soundcloud.com/13killings/s ... bony-dream
https://open.spotify.com/artist/5hBLCMe ... S9IYl5-5ug


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ThStealthP
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:33 am 
 

Blinded by Rage (USA): Metallic hardcore in the vein of Hatebreed and Madball or simply predominantly hardcore based: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=O ... ELLpnonHb8


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ThStealthP
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:45 am 
 

Messages Via Carrier Pigeon (Canada): Metallic hardcore in the style of Hatebreed and Madball, not metal:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... EqWZcuAwLx
http://heavymetalplayer5.blogspot.com/2 ... t.html?m=1


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Antioch
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:02 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
Ah well, I already found and ordered Revolution Wheel and the self-titled for cheap on Discogs. :)

Definitely faster than my idea, hehe.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:16 pm 
 

Deleted Stray from Liverpool. The one release based on which they were approved is by another band with the same name (and it's a borderline single amidst a huge rock discography, so the other Stray isn't eligible either).
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:06 pm 
 

Regarding soulmotor:
Soulmotor:
https://open.spotify.com/album/49DCX2xsCqbAhwokNUTSVG
Revolution Wheel:
https://open.spotify.com/album/7lX0rr1vsP1xMVsNSJxb95
Wrong Place At The Right Time:
https://open.spotify.com/album/4MEpTo6wu5w1sQJtOgQxDw

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ThStealthP
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:42 pm 
 

Kamilla (United States): More hard rock and gothic rock than gothic metal:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=O ... v-763T4c-4
https://www.amazon.com/-/es/Kamilla/dp/B003B7QYWC

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ThStealthP
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:09 pm 
 

Mary Ann (pre-To/Die/For) (Finland): Gothic rock:
https://www.youtube.com/user/Sadfaceknight/videos
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... f8C2YBazFp

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:37 am 
 

Witcher wrote:

Thanks, I did try looking up the missing albums on Spotify, but they're not available for me.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:41 pm 
 

Betrayed Blood (Ger):
PrPredominantly hardcore based metalcore:
http://www.rac-forum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=273
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Be ... lood/27740


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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:18 am 
 

Bomber (Ger) - I know, that I have brought this band in a ppersonal message to a moderator, which was not correct and I apologize deeply for it, but I have listened since to their album "Das Böse lebt at least fifteen times and still do not see, where the metal iis on the album. this is imo oi!/rac with some hardcore influences, which is similar in style to the first two albums by Böhse Onkelz. The demo is in the same style as the album, it even contains towo Böhse Onkelz cover songs. I also think , and you may say, that the interpretation of of rules is basicall none of my business, that rac bands should be treated with the same caution as metalcore or grindcore bands, this means, that their metalness should be examined very strictly. . Please, could you look at the band again, since I consider it to be a serious issue and it is also meant as such, nothing else?
http://www.rac-forum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=13001y
Please, see also the post here:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=35533&p=2897946#p2897946

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:49 am 
 

ThStealthP wrote:


It's borderline gothic rock/metal, but "Deeper Sin" is very similar to To/Die/For, including a few of the same songs (though slightly less heavy on the guitars.) This is acceptable.

Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01i8WLR_zjM

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ThStealthP
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:37 pm 
 

Zodijackyl wrote:
ThStealthP wrote:


It's borderline gothic rock/metal, but "Deeper Sin" is very similar to To/Die/For, including a few of the same songs (though slightly less heavy on the guitars.) This is acceptable.

Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01i8WLR_zjM


So all this being said, in other words, their ep is more acceptable and is more on the side of gothic metal than their debut album which is more on the side of gothic rock.

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ThStealthP
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:52 pm 
 

Scarlet Drop (Sweden): Definitely not a metalcore band:
https://open.spotify.com/artist/6siRgfo ... fQpsi?nd=1

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ThStealthP
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:21 pm 
 

April (Finland): Emo/alternative based metalcore:
https://www.amazon.es/Tidelines-April/dp/B0098ABHUA
https://open.spotify.com/album/1po4tJdU ... Q2reZ3Vx38

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ThStealthP
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:55 pm 
 

Agressor (Costa Rica): Only hardcore on their ep, only nu metal on their debut album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kKXotJh17A
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=O ... NmcheVdPxg

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:56 pm 
 

Straight Reads The Line (Can):
A combination of mathcore and modern hardcore.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... 7TR0dKA4Uf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hccFoW7qsnY

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ThStealthP
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:35 am 
 

Coma Lies NC (Australia): Predominantly hardcore based metalcore:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6kFkO ... /playlists

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ThStealthP
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:58 pm 
 

Curse Your Name (USA): Hardcore based metalcore:
https://wwww.youtube.com/channel/UCM2bp ... /playlists

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ThStealthP
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Deathblow (USA): Hardcore:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=O ... Z70IX31r3c

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 6:54 am 
 

ThStealthP wrote:
13 Killings (USA): Metalcore predominantly core with the structure songs on their first album, not certainly metal on their second album:
https://www.soundcloud.com/13killings/s ... bony-dream
https://open.spotify.com/artist/5hBLCMe ... S9IYl5-5ug

Borderline, the second album prolly no, but the first makes me hesitate to delete it.

ThStealthP wrote:
Blinded by Rage (USA): Metallic hardcore in the vein of Hatebreed and Madball or simply predominantly hardcore based: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=O ... ELLpnonHb8

From a quick sampling this sounds okay, with a good deal of groove metal to it.

ThStealthP wrote:
Messages Via Carrier Pigeon (Canada): Metallic hardcore in the style of Hatebreed and Madball, not metal:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... EqWZcuAwLx
http://heavymetalplayer5.blogspot.com/2 ... t.html?m=1

I didn't check the second link, but the EP sounds fine.

ThStealthP wrote:
Kamilla (United States): More hard rock and gothic rock than gothic metal:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=O ... v-763T4c-4
https://www.amazon.com/-/es/Kamilla/dp/B003B7QYWC

Riding the line between gothy modern rock and riff-based metal, but probably fine.

ThStealthP wrote:
Scarlet Drop (Sweden): Definitely not a metalcore band:
https://open.spotify.com/artist/6siRgfo ... fQpsi?nd=1

Any way to listen to the first EP?

ThStealthP wrote:

And another one that seems based in riffs, telling form the snippets.

ThStealthP wrote:
Agressor (Costa Rica): Only hardcore on their ep, only nu metal on their debut album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kKXotJh17A
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=O ... NmcheVdPxg

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Witcher wrote:
Straight Reads The Line (Can):
A combination of mathcore and modern hardcore.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... 7TR0dKA4Uf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hccFoW7qsnY

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ThStealthP wrote:
Coma Lies NC (Australia): Predominantly hardcore based metalcore:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6kFkO ... /playlists

Deleted.

ThStealthP wrote:
Curse Your Name (USA): Hardcore based metalcore:
https://wwww.youtube.com/channel/UCM2bp ... /playlists

Sounds riffy enough, at least what I'm hearing on the 2011 album.

ThStealthP wrote:

Deleted.



One small thing, please. Try to always include the actual MA band page link as well. Saves us a few steps.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:25 am 
 

Hey Azmodes, regarding Scarlet Drop (Sweden) no, unfortunately no, their first EP does not appear neither for download nor for streaming, so there is no way to listen to it nowadays until someone uploads the files from the physical CD first EP.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:31 am 
 

ThStealthP wrote:
Hey Azmodes, regarding Scarlet Drop (Sweden) no, unfortunately no, their first EP does not appear neither for download nor for streaming, so there is no way to listen to it nowadays until someone uploads the files from the physical CD first EP.

Here are two songs from the ep, Last Time and Metamorphosis. The rest is nowhere to be found, but since the ep has only four songs, it is at least the half of the ep:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPzcCfIxEWw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz4XWR8cSLk

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ThStealthP
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:42 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
ThStealthP wrote:
Hey Azmodes, regarding Scarlet Drop (Sweden) no, unfortunately no, their first EP does not appear neither for download nor for streaming, so there is no way to listen to it nowadays until someone uploads the files from the physical CD first EP.

Here are two songs from the ep, Last Time and Metamorphosis. The rest is nowhere to be found, but since the ep has only four songs, it is at least the half of the ep:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPzcCfIxEWw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz4XWR8cSLk

Thanks Witcher!

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Zodijackyl
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:49 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
Bomber (Ger) - I know, that I have brought this band in a ppersonal message to a moderator, which was not correct and I apologize deeply for it, but I have listened since to their album "Das Böse lebt at least fifteen times and still do not see, where the metal iis on the album. this is imo oi!/rac with some hardcore influences, which is similar in style to the first two albums by Böhse Onkelz. The demo is in the same style as the album, it even contains towo Böhse Onkelz cover songs. I also think , and you may say, that the interpretation of of rules is basicall none of my business, that rac bands should be treated with the same caution as metalcore or grindcore bands, this means, that their metalness should be examined very strictly. . Please, could you look at the band again, since I consider it to be a serious issue and it is also meant as such, nothing else?
http://www.rac-forum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=13001y
Please, see also the post here:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=35533&p=2897946#p2897946


I gave this another listen and discussed it with the staff a bit, and it is acceptable. It's one of those hybrid styles where there isn't so much a line, as an area of overlap between styles.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:12 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
ThStealthP wrote:
Hey Azmodes, regarding Scarlet Drop (Sweden) no, unfortunately no, their first EP does not appear neither for download nor for streaming, so there is no way to listen to it nowadays until someone uploads the files from the physical CD first EP.

Here are two songs from the ep, Last Time and Metamorphosis. The rest is nowhere to be found, but since the ep has only four songs, it is at least the half of the ep:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPzcCfIxEWw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz4XWR8cSLk

Thanks. Yeah, this is straight-up nu-metal. bye bye
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:15 pm 
 

Snowhite, from Liechtenstein. It sounds more like hard rock/AOR than melodic (heavy) metal, as it is mentioned on the band's page.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdB8zI4tU1o

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ThStealthP
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:21 pm 
 

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Snowhite/105924

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:25 am 
 

Deleted Gates of Ruin, no VR.
Released a 4-track EP on bandcamp, but without the 4th track, hence unfinished.
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