It's fine for heavy metal/hard rock. Not sure why you're so hyperbolic about it.

https://uloz.to/file/FoTvenJpKas0/might ... own-ep-rar
https://uloz.to/file/rRu5niAr5hbb/might ... reborn-rar

The SoulMotor CDs finally arrived. Nuked.

Best regards, Azmodes. Is it valid to send delete a band that never had a public release? I ask this question for this case: The owner and founder of the band, confirmed me that they never released their material called "Calles de Cemento" publicly:
https://www.metal-archives.com/report/v ... /show/mine
https://i.paste.pics/7YGDA.png

Fist - This Canadian band does not play heavy metal imo, but hard rock, which is similar to other Canadian bands such Triumph or Lee Aaron.
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Fist/23992
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJSZj3 ... o5zkmhn4OQ
https://open.spotify.com/artist/5pvU9aeDX7hrNlNXftxD8v
https://heavyharmonies.com/cgi-bin/band ... ndNum=3731

I was thinking about bringing Fist up for some time. That said, I believe their later work is Purple inspired heavy metal/hard rock, so I refrained. Here are some samples of that era for consideration.

“Foolin’”: https://youtu.be/p1p6o9wBsRw
“Loud Loud Loud”: https://youtu.be/74W_9BJ10Ro
“In Your Face”: https://youtu.be/K-q1393iFhk
“Anything Goes”: https://youtu.be/wQ1BueaRkAw
“Down the Drain”: https://youtu.be/NAhOqvGDzxI

The thing here is that bands often regard these things a bit differently than we do. Sometimes anything short of a label release is seen as unreleased. The wording seems more clear here, but it could still mean that it was circulated privately, essentially in such a way that it reached a wider circle of people (and which we would consider valid). That being said, since there is only mention of an LP (as opposed to a tape, which would be more fitting for the private distribution argument) and combined with the lack of information in general (and I doubt it was approved based on airtight evidence back then) I will opt for deleting it. Maybe it'll turn up again in the queue with more information.

Thanks!

Wanastowi vjecy_ I find the inclusion of this Czech punk/hard rock band very surprising. The band was formed as a project to record some music for a film document for a movie abouut the Czech punk scene and punk was also the music they played on their debut album Tak mi to teda nandey, combined with some hard rock in style of guitarist's Rober Kodym fabourite bands Guns'N'Roses and The Cult. Nobody in the Czech music scene has ever considerd the band heavy metal, I know , that youdon't like such strong statements, but it cannot be said other way in tthis case, Even the band never considered their music to be heavy metal. There is one heavy metal song on Tak mi to teda nandey, St. Christophe, with Chris Chambers from Jumper Lace on Vocals, but that's it. So , please look at this case, thanks.

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Wa ... 3540459443
https://bandzone.cz/wanastowivjecy
http://wanastowivjecy.cz/
https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanastowi_Vjecy
https://www.hudebniskupiny.cz/wanastowi-vjecy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDp0QHo2-eo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpPKcN-BYWo
https://open.spotify.com/track/6f6zzUh4 ... y=true&v=T
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHn9j8tF9vU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uTI1L4U1HQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtNTRBl94DY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1prul4tV2no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iU1dV5wxWU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZalfKDKkr0
And here's h heavy/black metal song St. Christophe in style of old Venom - an experiment for the band:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xmkpk6L6OZ0

Apartman 69: Bluesy hard rock in the style of early Whitesnake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQeQLA1Jz78
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Apartman_69/114934

Deleted Campo Nero SS. By all appearances a fake/joke/troll project with no valid releases.

I'm very surprised https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/A. ... 3540465985 made the cut. I've listened to all of their releases multiple times and every time it sounds like nu-metal to me.

Starstruck - I think, ththat their only album is predominantly hard rock based:
http://bm-80smetal.blogspot.com/2014/11 ... -1984.html
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Starstruck/2651
http://hardrockgeneration.blogspot.com/ ... -1984.html
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album ... ru_to_you/

TKO:
First album, Let It Roll, is bluesy hard rock/aor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdY1nDl ... h9Kcb8n8It

The second album "In Your Face" is their heaviest album, but only End of The line is a pre heavy metal song. Give IN To The Night has also strong heavy metal influences in the riffing, but the rest of the album is predominantly hard rrock imo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-Oorjffwa0
Third album" Below The Belt" is glam/hard rock:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK-R--w ... 8zBj8un0c7
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/TKO/1566

TKO definitely needs their genre field changed, but I think they're Metal. In Your Face is a solid hybrid of Sleaze Rock and Heavy Metal where the latter predominates. This will probably be included on the basis of, "It's Metal, but barely."

The first album is Hard Rock/AOR and the third album is the Glam Metal/Sleaze Rock. Very little, if any, Metal riffing on either album.

There was a demo compilation released a few years back called Round Two, but I haven't located it in its entirety online. No idea if that's more Metal or Rock, so someone will have to do some research.

A lot of people rag about Metal Enterprises, quite possibly the worst metal label of all time.

This is the first album by one of the bands on that label, Break Point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7d5Ush ... HQFyIt8B_a

Of course, this is only one of their two albums; I have no idea if the other album they recorded (Maniacs) was the one that got them here or not. It's worth looking into, either way, as it sounds more like AOR than metal to my ears.

Removed Octavia (Norway), insignificant name change → Octavia Sperati.

HHere is the second album Maniacs:
https://www.youtube.com/user/lightningb ... reak+point

I didn't really give it a listen...is it any harder than the debut or closer to being acceptable? If not, then I expect them to be removed.

I haven't listened to them, but how about you don't bring up a band for removal if you, admittedly, haven't even listened to all of their albums when they're easily listenable?

I was going by what I've heard by them, which sounds more like AOR than metal. I only heard a couple of snippets from the second album, so maybe that was the album that got them accepted. I'll have to listen to it later.

I have adde it back then only based on some reviews, since the files were not available online. I was a moderator, so it went straight to the database. The secnd album is heavier, the firsthalf oof the album is heavy metal/hard rock , but the problem is , that aafter that , it turns quckly to containing almost exclusively Gary Moore style ballads.

Why was Planet of Zeus removed from the archives? Midnight Rider posted on April 14th of 2019 that they were removed because "Stoner Rock". I won't argue with their later material being classified as Stoner Rock or Rock 'n Roll, but their first album, Vigilante is unequivocally Metal.

I am not a moderator, but you are most likely looking for this sub-forum:
viewforum.php?f=27

And the Bandcamp link of their first album to put it on the appeal:
https://planetofzeus.bandcamp.com/album/vigilante

Planet of Zeus is a pretty borderline one from what I remember. While it's been a bit of time, if I remember correctly, their first album is more on the stoner rock side than it is on the stoner metal side. I remember it being really fun though, so I'll give it another listen later today.

But also yeah, this belongs in the band appeals sub-forum.

Damn, thank you for all the replies! That's why I love this forum! I just listened to Vigilante again to make sure I'm not out of line and I'm totally confident that this is Metal. I say this as someone who loves Southard Rock such as Clutch and 100 Watt Vipers and knows that neither of those bands have any business on the archives.

Why was War Dance accepted? I'm listening to their full-length right now and it's punk rock, not thrash. https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/War_Dance/50833

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_GQuIUZHN0

Did the band get accepted based on their demos? Because there's no signs of thrash in their album.

Here are the two demos complete with the review and they sound also predominantly hardcore punk:
http://horriblenoise.blogspot.com/2008/ ... mo_05.html
http://horriblenoise.blogspot.com/2009/ ... -demo.html
Hmm, hthe bands are really starting to pile up the thread recently..
Edit: I must correct myself, the first demo " A Short Sharp Shock" is clearly crosssover thrash based and as such , definitely metal.

Removed Orestea (UK), alternative rock.

Indeed borderline like I remembered it being, but sounds like it leans more on the stoner rock side of the fence. Very enjoyable album though!

No Trouble (Ger):
I own "looking For Trouble " already since 1997, but I have relistened to it and Wtch Out albums recently, and confirmed my suspicion, thet both albums are actually predominantly hard rock with only one heavy metal song on each album, namely "Looking for Trouble" on Looking For Troubl and Rock'N'Roll heart on Watch Out. The rest is mainly hard rock , which sslightly remains of The Scorpions on their more commercial , hard rock albums. Just listen to those choruses and riffs..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duAfgC4c3Yg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhPy-CYkdDw
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/No_Trouble/64682

I'm going to second the petition for Break Point's removal. Elephants has maybe two tracks that are indisputably Metal. The rest is a mix of AOR, Hard Rock and even stuff that's faintly Disco/Synthpop in places.

Maniacs makes a stronger case for their inclusion, but even then, only five or six tracks could be considered Metal. The rest is pure AOR ballads. If it stays in, it's going to rank as Metal-Archives's most barely Metal album.

Okay, as much as I like having the info here. I really don't think that Yajaira is a metal band, and I've thought about this a lot, and I do feel this is predominantly stoner rock. (https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Yajaira/106752)

Albums for re-evaluation:
Yajaira: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsyqn69fr-4
Lento y real: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsyqn69fr-4
La ira de Dios: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utCm4KNCYbY
Desolazion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE1sIZnv3rs
Vuelve a arder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSq6recUCx0
Antiguos demonios: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCfoGi2zSh0
Post Tenebras Lux: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETAOuM90AQw

I listened to most of the second Break Point album (Maniacs) this afternoon, having only heard a snippet or two prior.

Yes, it's a bit harder than the debut, but still predominantly AOR.

Truth be told, I'm not convinced Hielo Negro should be here, either, to be quite frank.

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Hielo_Negro/84930

Demonio parlante - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NVAvehZ6b8
Patagonia rock - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUkNgAenVS8
Donde nacen los vientos - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSKMoED8to0
Purgatorio bar - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-YOi5q3prs
The only original material on "Rock salvacion" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-YOi5q3prs
A lot of Altas mareas - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSliBrF ... VxKG9ad-1Q
El gran camino - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3U5zXFmbOk

Borderline as these things usually are, but sounds riffy enough, tbh. No offense, but it might be better if you stopped bringing up RAC/hatecore stuff in here, since so far it's evident that there's a fundamental disagreement as to what's acceptable.


They were submitted and approved (two mods agreed, one of them me) based on their debut album.


Nine full-lengths to check, I'll look into it.


I would agree based on the album, but as Witcher observed, the first demo sounds like acceptable crossover thrash. Inclined to keep them based on that, but the genre will definitely need to be changed.


I'm still in the process of catching up with the backlog, so don't start bumping stuff just yet...

Thanks for the reply, azmodes. Regarding Wanastowi Vjecy,I understand, that they were accepted baed on their debut album, but I tried to explained to you,how the band is ppperceived. Actually, the debut albumis the reason, why the band is considered a punkbandd, since their other albm wre not very punk in style - they were hard rock in the style of Guns'N'Roses and later on alternative hard rock with a bit of grunge. By the links I wanted to dedemonstrate to you, how the band is pperceived in the Czech rock and metal scene. Nobody, I reapt , nobody, would think of them as a heavy metal band. OOf course, you can say, that the database has the right for its own assession of bands, reregardless of what the journalists and music fans think. But when the disproportin with the opinion of the whole Czech music scene (I hav demonstrated, that it is not only my personal opinion), is so radicallly different, it should make you tkthink just a bit, doesn't it. I am aware , that I can't do much at the moment, but I hope, that you may at least rrethink this decision with time.
Here's another Czech review of their debut, to demonstrate to you, that it is not only my personal opinion, but ththe dominating opinion on the Czech music scene:
http://www.czechblade.cz/clanek/441/har ... slovensko/

Some early metal in this, but overall the rock seems to dominate. Deleted. I wonder if I should check the successor band too...


So I sampled what I could find, which would be the first coupla albums in their entirety and some songs from the rest. Everything was either hard rock or mostly hard rock. Will delete.

Agreed, but I'll talk to the mod who approved it first. EDIT: Toast.


Deleted.