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Kennermahn
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:26 pm 
 
Witcher wrote:
Endless Pride (Swe):
The album Fuck The Media Lies, upon wihich it was accepted, has only tthree real thrash metal songs, the rest is rac , ballads and one hardcore song:
https://ulozto.cz/file/pZGPVyDfL/endles ... lfhoos-rar
https://www.rac-forum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=429
http://88nsm.com/9650-endless-pride-dis ... -2012.html
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/En ... 3540419572
https://open.spotify.com/album/5byN0kmYbap7ESK8HEyG2V


I think their album 15 Years of Pride should be metal enough anyway though. It's probably not being taken into account in that comment, because the band was added earlier.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:27 am 
 
I did not include the newer album , because I coundn't find a working download for them, but judging form the song samples at Youtube, it seems to mme, that ttheir laters album is mainly hard rac with some heavy metal/hard rock influences and again not predominantly thrash metal or metal:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTcwp3 ... yneoiv3JNQ
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Antioch
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:06 am 
 
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Sp ... 3540311431
Pretty redundant entry and could be merged with Ritual. Same line-up, no listed releases, no change in style/location/etc., minor name change.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:38 pm 
 
Speaking of Ritual, is there a reason why Farley's Ritual is separate from Ritual? The music from that demo would later be included on both The Gathering and later The Ancient Tome which suggests to me that Farley's Ritual is effectively Ritual. Perhaps a merge should be in order?
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:21 pm 
 
Strider (USA): hard rock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNwILUU ... beb6f45s7F
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Strider/61137
https://heavyharmonies.com/cgi-bin/glam ... me=Strider
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Nightsward
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:00 pm 
 
Deleted Borderline from Peru. Their sole EP consisted of plagiarized music from Cuckoo's Nest - Dark Shades of Lunacy.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:08 pm 
 
Destiny (USA)- predominantly hard rock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHZWUtMXzus
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Destiny/3540270443
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GraveWish
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:15 pm 
 
Recently accepted band https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Temple/3540472908 should be deleted because the album is currently only available for streaming. Streaming release date is August 7, 2020. The actual release date is September 25, 2020. Digital album current price is €666 as you can see here: https://oziumrecords.bandcamp.com/album/funeral-planet
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Nightsward
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:50 pm 
 
GraveWish wrote:
Recently accepted band https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Temple/3540472908 should be deleted because the album is currently only available for streaming. Streaming release date is August 7, 2020. The actual release date is September 25, 2020. Digital album current price is €666 as you can see here: https://oziumrecords.bandcamp.com/album/funeral-planet

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Kennermahn
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:53 pm 
 
Nightsward wrote:
GraveWish wrote:
Recently accepted band https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Temple/3540472908 should be deleted because the album is currently only available for streaming. Streaming release date is August 7, 2020. The actual release date is September 25, 2020. Digital album current price is €666 as you can see here: https://oziumrecords.bandcamp.com/album/funeral-planet

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I believe this was a bit rushed because you can buy the CD and get full streaming and download, from what I can see. Unless that doesn't count as releasing, of course.
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Nightsward
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:03 pm 
 
CD doesn't ship out until September 25th, so it's essentially a pre-order. And pricing your digital release at 666 euros doesn't count as a valid digital release as no one would actually pay that price for an album. Therefore the band currently has no valid release and shouldn't be on here at this time.

A previous submission of this band was rejected on these same grounds as well.
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Kennermahn
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:07 pm 
 
Nightsward wrote:
CD doesn't ship out until September 25th, so it's essentially a pre-order. And pricing your digital release at 666 euros doesn't count as a valid digital release as no one would actually pay that price for an album. Therefore the band currently has no valid release and shouldn't be on here at this time.

A previous submission of this band was rejected on these same grounds as well.


I don't know, but one could read it as "you can get the album digitally now if you buy the CD", which would be essentially a release I think. It's a matter of interpretation I guess, but since MA is more conservative on these cases, then I guess makes sense to wait until the official release. Another case for the Bandcamp rules thread?
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droneriot
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:14 pm 
 
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Goat_Vulva/11511
This is basically just the band falling down a flight of stairs with their instruments, as metal as Anal Cunt. Didn't find it available on the net but I can share it on slsk if Azmodes wants to check.

Even the additional notes say:
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"Goat Vulva isn't a satanic group, but an XXX rated porno speed noise today." (Nuclear Holocausto Vengeance)


(I think it was accepted under the side-project rule that preceded the previous side-project rule where normal users could still submit side-projects.)
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Nightsward
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:18 pm 
 
Kennermahn wrote:
Nightsward wrote:
CD doesn't ship out until September 25th, so it's essentially a pre-order. And pricing your digital release at 666 euros doesn't count as a valid digital release as no one would actually pay that price for an album. Therefore the band currently has no valid release and shouldn't be on here at this time.

A previous submission of this band was rejected on these same grounds as well.


I don't know, but one could read it as "you can get the album digitally now if you buy the CD", which would be essentially a release I think. It's a matter of interpretation I guess, but since MA is more conservative on these cases, then I guess makes sense to wait until the official release. Another case for the Bandcamp rules thread?

It might count if that were the case, but we'd have to see proof that the tracks were downloadable if it were submitted again now, anyway.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:49 pm 
 
droneriot wrote:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Goat_Vulva/11511
This is basically just the band falling down a flight of stairs with their instruments, as metal as Anal Cunt. Didn't find it available on the net but I can share it on slsk if Azmodes wants to check.

Even the additional notes say:
Quote:
"Goat Vulva isn't a satanic group, but an XXX rated porno speed noise today." (Nuclear Holocausto Vengeance)


(I think it was accepted under the side-project rule that preceded the previous side-project rule where normal users could still submit side-projects.)

They will have a 2020 all you can endure release out in a couple of days; see bandcamp site:
https://werewolfrecords.bandcamp.com/album/goatvulva
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:18 am 
 
The 2020 album seems to be just a compilation of their old demos. The band was added by Christkiller, who was a moderator at that time, so I think at least he considered the band to be black metal enough.
I have listened to the compilation of their demos and personally think, that the band could be accptable at least based on theirfirst two demos. The production is trerrible,and so are the "vocals" , but the songs seem to have a clear strcture and the riffing, however minimalist it may be, is also in bm style. It is not pure black noise like Die schwarzen Priester fr example. The demo compilation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=staIz2CuRnQ
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:07 am 
 
Infectious Grooves(USA) :
It was accepted as a side project, but since the music is very far from real metal (the band's official biogrphy even calls it "heavy funk rock") and since the band's impact on the general metal scene is doubtful, I don't see many reason, why this should stay. It is well known among Suicidal Tendencies fans, but the acceptance among "normal" metalheads may vary and as the side projects of Cynic musicians, which were progressive rock, were also deleted, I see it as a similar case.
https://open.spotify.com/artist/32R6YbLokiJpZpvFX9Ewo9
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/In ... 3540307320
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Nightsward
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:22 pm 
 
Deleted Exhibition from Thessaloniki, Greece, same band as Exhibition from Kiatos, Greece.
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Nightsward
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:48 am 
 
Deleted Pollution Mass, same band as Pollution (It).
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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:30 pm 
 
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Vi ... 3540468943

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Nightsward
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:05 pm 
 
TheGrimWombat wrote:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Vital_Spirit/3540468943

Duplicate entry.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:10 pm 
 
Nightsward wrote:
TheGrimWombat wrote:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Vital_Spirit/3540468943

Duplicate entry.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 5:43 pm 
 
Gogmagog (UK):
First song is really NWOBHM inspired, but tthe two other songs on the ep are pure hard rock, so it's not predominantly metal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuAzi-PlaNw
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Gogmagog/3092
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GraveWish
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:11 am 
 
Shouldn't Blaze (https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Blaze/600) and Blaze Bayley (https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Bl ... 3540257585) be merged into one page?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:55 am 
 
GraveWish wrote:
Shouldn't Blaze (https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Blaze/600) and Blaze Bayley (https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Bl ... 3540257585) be merged into one page?

I have actually accepted Blaze Bailey as a solo artist, because the line-up of his solo band is entirely different tthan that of Blaze and he himslef view Blaze asa real band with input form all members and Blaze Bailey as his solo project. The heavily sourced article on Wikipedia is clear on that, pplus he said himself in a inteview for the Czech Radio Beat, that he was in three real bands and it always fell apart for some reason, so he now continues as a solo artist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaze_Bayley
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:59 am 
 
Witcher wrote:
GraveWish wrote:
Shouldn't Blaze (https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Blaze/600) and Blaze Bayley (https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Bl ... 3540257585) be merged into one page?

I have actually accepted Blaze Bailey as a solo artist, because the line-up of his solo band is entirely different tthan that of Blaze and he himslef view Blaze asa real band with input form all members and Blaze Bailey as his solo project. The heavily sourced article on Wikipedia is clear on that, pplus he said himself in a inteview for the Czech Radio Beat, that he was in three real bands and it always fell apart for some reason, so he now continues as a solo artist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaze_Bayley

So the link between the two bands in the "years active" field should be removed because it is misleading.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:00 pm 
 
This band https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Br ... 3540263048 lately uploaded their albums to Bandcamp. Rock/shred, not metal enough.

Bandcamp: https://bradfordrocks.bandcamp.com/
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:16 am 
 
GraveWish wrote:
This band https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Br ... 3540263048 lately uploaded their albums to Bandcamp. Rock/shred, not metal enough.

Bandcamp: https://bradfordrocks.bandcamp.com/

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:23 am 
 
Witcher wrote:
Gogmagog (UK):
First song is really NWOBHM inspired, but tthe two other songs on the ep are pure hard rock, so it's not predominantly metal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuAzi-PlaNw
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Gogmagog/3092

hmmm, this may be an exception, not sure. I've added rock to the genre for the time being.
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Canedy, Bordonaro, Feinstein & Caudle (USA)- EsseEsentially , a project of The Rods members with a new singer. But the style on the album is very far from The Rods style imo, iinstead it has a glam/hard rock style of the Hollywood scene, which is hinted at in the album title, and not heavy metal:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... i3qzbyp7HY
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ca ... dle/110145
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Insurgent (Russsia):
A relatively recent addition, but one YI'm highly wondering about. All the releases prior to the 2015 a are a ixture of rac/hhardcore and as such clearly unacceptabgle and the 2015 album, which was the additin apparently based on, i simo predominanlty hardcore, just as the descriptor in Discoggs.com says. I am aware, that their classification isn't always correct, but in this case I consider it spot on.I do not hear much Pantera/Machine Head style of songs and riffing there, just relatively fast hardcore stuff spiced ith sone groovy breakdowns, which areonly rarely metallic In that aaspect , the band is deninitely closer to bands like Biohazard or Sick fOf It all.
https://www.discogs.com/artist/3593939- ... 0%BD%D1%82
https://www.rac-forum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=22464
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:31 pm 
 
Witcher wrote:
British Lion- the music is hard rock and though the band was apparently accepted as a side project of Steve Harris, it is not so,since the band was started under the name BBritish Lion already in the early nineties , Stve Harris was their manger back tthen and the band already had a demo wand was playing live concerts with thier original material. YoYou can read here, tha British Lion member Richard Taylor considers the band to be the continuationg of the origianl British Lion from the nineties rather than a sside project of an iron Maiden member:
https://metalplanetmusic.com/2019/12/br ... t-uk-tour/
In the light of all this, is there really a reason to still keep British Lion listed in the database?
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/B ... ion/352926
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:38 pm 
 
Saracen (Aus)- Predominantly slightly bluesy hard rock with some prog influences, not heavy metal. The only heavy metal song on the album is "Skyline .
The Saracen debut album was actually also released as the second album by the band Trilogy for some strange reason:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uFfMeL1f9g
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Saracen/5560
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbxS5IvpH0U
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:39 pm 
 
Deleted Avgrund from Sweden. Sole release consisted of songs plagiarized (not even re-recorded, just stolen wholesale) from Ill Omened - Conflagration Roaring Hell but re-ordered and renamed.
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Nightsward
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:20 pm 
 
Deleted Reality Has Collapsed from the US. There's currently some ambiguity as to whether their sole release consists of original material: https://www.facebook.com/realityhascoll ... 4582673818
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:52 pm 
 
Witcher wrote:
Saracen (Aus)- Predominantly slightly bluesy hard rock with some prog influences, not heavy metal. The only heavy metal song on the album is "Skyline .
The Saracen debut album was actually also released as the second album by the band Trilogy for some strange reason:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uFfMeL1f9g
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Saracen/5560
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbxS5IvpH0U


I'm going to presume that the Trilogy album was acceptable, although I haven't listened to it. This might be a comparable situation to Incubus and Opprobrium. After the Louisiana based band Incubus renamed themselves Opprobrium to avoid confusion with the more recognized alternative rock band Incubus (from California), they recorded new material under the Opprobrium name, and then re-released both Incubus albums under the Opprobrium name (likely to prevent fans of the alternative rock band Incubus from buying it, thinking it was by them). The albums are listed under both monikers here.
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Deleted Excretion from Los Angeles, California, US. It's uncertain as to whether the band ever had a valid release.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:01 am 
 
Witcher wrote:
Strider (USA): hard rock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNwILUU ... beb6f45s7F
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Strider/61137
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:06 am 
 
Witcher wrote:
Witcher wrote:
Canedy, Bordonaro, Feinstein & Caudle (USA)- EsseEsentially , a project of The Rods members with a new singer. But the style on the album is very far from The Rods style imo, iinstead it has a glam/hard rock style of the Hollywood scene, which is hinted at in the album title, and not heavy metal:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... i3qzbyp7HY
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ca ... dle/110145
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:12 am 
 
Witcher wrote:
Witcher wrote:
Insurgent (Russsia):
A relatively recent addition, but one YI'm highly wondering about. All the releases prior to the 2015 a are a ixture of rac/hhardcore and as such clearly unacceptabgle and the 2015 album, which was the additin apparently based on, i simo predominanlty hardcore, just as the descriptor in Discoggs.com says. I am aware, that their classification isn't always correct, but in this case I consider it spot on.I do not hear much Pantera/Machine Head style of songs and riffing there, just relatively fast hardcore stuff spiced ith sone groovy breakdowns, which areonly rarely metallic In that aaspect , the band is deninitely closer to bands like Biohazard or Sick fOf It all.
https://www.discogs.com/artist/3593939- ... 0%BD%D1%82
https://www.rac-forum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=22464
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