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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:18 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
Saracen (Aus)- Predominantly slightly bluesy hard rock with some prog influences, not heavy metal. The only heavy metal song on the album is "Skyline .
The Saracen debut album was actually also released as the second album by the band Trilogy for some strange reason:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uFfMeL1f9g
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Saracen/5560
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbxS5IvpH0U

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:30 am 
 

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Nightsward
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:20 am 
 

Deleted:
- Fahrenheit (Hun): melodic hard rock
- Lizzard (Ger): same band as Lizard (Ger)
- Annihilation (USA): same band as Annihilation from San Francisco, USA

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ThStealthK
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:44 am 
 

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:24 am 
 

Deleted Mortfina. Apparently the demo was never released (or even recorded).
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:55 am 
 

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Deleted Excretion from Los Angeles, California, US. It's uncertain as to whether the band ever had a valid release.

I've restored it after proof for a CD has come to light.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:02 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
Saracen (Aus)- Predominantly slightly bluesy hard rock with some prog influences, not heavy metal. The only heavy metal song on the album is "Skyline .
The Saracen debut album was actually also released as the second album by the band Trilogy for some strange reason:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uFfMeL1f9g
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Saracen/5560
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbxS5IvpH0U

Talked it over with another mod and we think it's metal enough.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:48 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
Thanks. Thhere's also the pre-Stampede band lLautrec, which imo plays similar kind of hard rock. The A side from their singele "Mean Gasoline" was even later published as a Stampede song on one of their albums. The song is similar to AC/DC both musically and lyrically and the second song on the single, "Shoot Out the Lights" is not much heavier:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRT3N1LngaQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iaZDhWxebg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLshDrXf5cI
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Lautrec/22618

Thanks, Azmodes, here's another repost.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:04 pm 
 

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British Lion- the music is hard rock and though the band was apparently accepted as a side project of Steve Harris, it is not so,since the band was started under the name BBritish Lion already in the early nineties , Stve Harris was their manger back tthen and the band already had a demo wand was playing live concerts with thier original material. YoYou can read here, tha British Lion member Richard Taylor considers the band to be the continuationg of the origianl British Lion from the nineties rather than a sside project of an iron Maiden member:
https://metalplanetmusic.com/2019/12/br ... t-uk-tour/
In the light of all this, is there really a reason to still keep British Lion listed in the database?
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/B ... ion/352926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60j-y7bJvWo
https://open.spotify.com/artist/5z5jrGRiONDfGvQydFriQh

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:59 am 
 

Deleted Worldscross. Accepted on a single song and after acquiring the entire album it turned out to be mainly rapcore/groove.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:50 am 
 

Deleted Al Qaynah again. There doesn't appear to be any valid release; only an assortment of individual songs recorded over the span of years for different purposes and compiled into a number of contradictory tracklists online. Tracklist order, if you could call it that, on the official website is ever changing.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:17 am 
 

Systematic Storm viewtopic.php?f=1&t=129204&p=2932362#p2932362
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Storm of the Light's Bane
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:29 pm 
 

Deleted Coextinction from the US, same band as Villain from North Carolina under a different name. No new material yet.
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Nightsward
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:41 am 
 

Deleted White Terror (Fin), same band as Genocide but no original material under that name.

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OpsiusCato
Mexican Metal Inquisition

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:41 pm 
 

Deleted Minas Morgull from Greece. Same as Minas Morgul.
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joecubbie
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:43 pm 
 

I accidentally added this band, Victorious, who happens to be the same band as Victorius.

Duplicate: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Vi ... 3540475341
Original: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Victorius/87817

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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:05 pm 
 

joecubbie wrote:
I accidentally added this band, Victorious, who happens to be the same band as Victorius.

Duplicate: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Vi ... 3540475341
Original: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Victorius/87817

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Nightsward
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:44 am 
 

Deleted Zero Hunt (USA), same band as Zero Hunt (CHE).

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Muhammadabbadabba
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:47 pm 
 

Muhammadabbadabba wrote:
As much as I like Jinrai [仁籟], I gotta ask how they got accepted. I always had them pegged for a mix of faintly metallic Oi! and Melodic Hardcore / Skate Punk with even Alternative or Pop Punk hooks here and there.

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I listened to the 2006 album and heard enough heavy metal to sign off on it, another mod was okay with it too. But I've been in the band queue all day today, so maybe I'm starting to hear things. :nods:

Both albums are now on YouTube for those interested in handling this inquiry.



The Metal moments on both albums are: "希望ノ灯", "古狼ノ血涙", "戦場の陽溜り", "澪ノ風" and "圖南ノ鵬翼"

The rest is a mix of Oi!, Melodic Hardcore, Skate Punk and Alternative Rock
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PrincessScarlet
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 2:05 am 
 

Raw Power (Italy)
Though crossover thrash, they're more on the punk side than the metal, at least based on the skim through their discography I had. Metal moments for sure, but not enough to be on here IMO.
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ra ... 3540444199

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_PUu8DtDUA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT6N2i4fxcs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My1bYIjPmfk

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Wilkun
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Location: Poland
PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:52 pm 
 

Bacterium (Ireland)
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ba ... 3540461937

According to MA standards, the band has no valid recording. These two songs are just adv. The full release will be at the end of 2020. On physical medium. Digital 2021 !!!

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 3:53 pm 
 

Regarding Raw Power: Here's also the album Too Tough To Burn, since it was one of the two albums crucial for the acceptance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMSbnTFoC_s

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:34 am 
 

Raw Power were approved primarily based on the 1989 and 1993 albums. Three moderators were in agreement on this, they stay.

Wilkun wrote:
Bacterium (Ireland)
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ba ... 3540461937

According to MA standards, the band has no valid recording. These two songs are just adv. The full release will be at the end of 2020. On physical medium. Digital 2021 !!!

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Quorthallis
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:17 pm 
 

Triplesix (Netherlands)
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Triplesix/78379
I think this is a very questionable inclusion. We all know that alternative metal is unacceptable on this website and I couldn't any samples on the internet at all. So I think this should be removed unless someone can provide some links or samples for a re-evaluation of their genre. I've found some songs on their myspace, but they can't be played for some reason. https://myspace.com/triplesixnl/music/songs

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MutantClannfear
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:07 pm 
 

Quorthallis wrote:
Triplesix (Netherlands)
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Triplesix/78379
I think this is a very questionable inclusion. We all know that alternative metal is unacceptable on this website and I couldn't any samples on the internet at all. So I think this should be removed unless someone can provide some links or samples for a re-evaluation of their genre. I've found some songs on their myspace, but they can't be played for some reason. https://myspace.com/triplesixnl/music/songs

All of the music on Myspace was lost in a server migration in 2015, sadly.

We can't delete bands based purely on what their genre is on the site; we'll need to hear song samples to take action.
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ThStealthK
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:56 am 
 

MutantClannfear wrote:
Quorthallis wrote:
Triplesix (Netherlands)
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Triplesix/78379
I think this is a very questionable inclusion. We all know that alternative metal is unacceptable on this website and I couldn't any samples on the internet at all. So I think this should be removed unless someone can provide some links or samples for a re-evaluation of their genre. I've found some songs on their myspace, but they can't be played for some reason. https://myspace.com/triplesixnl/music/songs

All of the music on Myspace was lost in a server migration in 2015, sadly.

We can't delete bands based purely on what their genre is on the site; we'll need to hear song samples to take action.

Full first album:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ib9mmmjz1 ... y.rar/file

Postscript: I couldn't find the another releases, unfortunately.
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Quorthallis
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:24 pm 
 

ThStealthP wrote:
MutantClannfear wrote:
Quorthallis wrote:
Triplesix (Netherlands)
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Triplesix/78379
I think this is a very questionable inclusion. We all know that alternative metal is unacceptable on this website and I couldn't any samples on the internet at all. So I think this should be removed unless someone can provide some links or samples for a re-evaluation of their genre. I've found some songs on their myspace, but they can't be played for some reason. https://myspace.com/triplesixnl/music/songs

All of the music on Myspace was lost in a server migration in 2015, sadly.

We can't delete bands based purely on what their genre is on the site; we'll need to hear song samples to take action.

Full first album:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ib9mmmjz1 ... y.rar/file

Postscript: I couldn't find the other releases, unfortunately.


Good job! I listened to the songs in this file and it sounds like death metal to me, so the genre should definitely be re-evaluated. Don't know if they changed the style later, but this guy might know something https://www.facebook.com/pg/wilmarbjtaa ... e_internal since he was the last known member of the band.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:38 am 
 

Deleted Hate from Novara, Piedmont. The mentioned demo appears to actually be a release by another one of the artist's bands, namely SN.
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KingSpooky
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:05 am 
 

Deleted Compression from Towson, Maryland. A report came in to change the genre from Heavy Metal, and then it was mentioned that they aren't really a metal band. After listening, I don't think they belong on the site, either.

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KingSpooky
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:12 am 
 

Yesterday also deleted: Necropolis (Chicago, Illinois) - (duplicate entry with Zion, Illinois band), Krypta (US) - their '89 demo is actually Kripta (Brazil)'s '88 demo - a mistake made by tape traders at some point), Conspiracy (Helen, New Mexico) - duplicate entry, Disarm (US) - what has been passed off as a US band's 1988 demo is side B of Disarm (Japan)'s 1988 demo.

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KingSpooky
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:31 am 
 

Deleted Core9 from Baton Rouge, Louisiana, US - not a metal band.

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KingSpooky
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:32 am 
 

Deleted Lifetime (listed as power/speed/thrash metal from California - it is a light punk rock band from New Jersey).

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KingSpooky
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:40 am 
 

Deleted Untamed (New York, US) - merged with Untaymed.

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KingSpooky
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:23 pm 
 

Deleted Totaly Obscene (sic) from the UK. Light alternative rock. OK'd it with staff.

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ThStealthK
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:03 pm 
 

Six Feet Under (Sweden): Hard rock in style of Utiah Heep:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Si ... nder/44549
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPK59PuyZAc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtBjOjDYCpI
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:19 pm 
 

Why was the Mexican band Fly Away accepted?
The band has only one digital single on Bandcamp and no valid releases yet:
https://flyaway1.bandcamp.com/track/pain-rivers
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Fl ... 3540447978

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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:09 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
Why was the Mexican band Fly Away accepted?
The band has only one digital single on Bandcamp and no valid releases yet:
https://flyaway1.bandcamp.com/track/pain-rivers
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Fl ... 3540447978

They do, in fact, have a valid release:
https://flyaway1.bandcamp.com/album/shadow-paths
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KingSpooky
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:53 pm 
 

I consider Six Feet Under (Swe) to be a metal band. Some people find the first album to be a heavy metal classic. They're just playing on it from a different angle and kind of energy. They're a lot like the band Wizz who are on the site ("Crazy Games" LP). There's a lot of pure rock still in their sound, not many years outside of the '70s.

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KingSpooky
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:57 pm 
 

Glad that Saracen is staying. They are an amazing band.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:53 pm 
 

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Insurgent (Russsia):
A relatively recent addition, but one YI'm highly wondering about. All the releases prior to the 2015 a are a ixture of rac/hhardcore and as such clearly unacceptabgle and the 2015 album, which was the additin apparently based on, i simo predominanlty hardcore, just as the descriptor in Discoggs.com says. I am aware, that their classification isn't always correct, but in this case I consider it spot on.I do not hear much Pantera/Machine Head style of songs and riffing there, just relatively fast hardcore stuff spiced ith sone groovy breakdowns, which areonly rarely metallic In that aaspect , the band is deninitely closer to bands like Biohazard or Sick fOf It all.
https://www.discogs.com/artist/3593939- ... 0%BD%D1%82
https://www.rac-forum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=22464
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/%D ... 3540466480

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