Ah glad you agree about Disciples of Verity. I thought I was missing something.

Regarding electric EEls / I agre, that The second album is metal,I had torubles finding longer samples from it online. However, it should aat least be specified on the page , as in the form "Accepted based on album..".

It is also strange that the band The heritage , which has two members of Electric Eels, has basicallz the same tacklisting as the second Electric EEls album.

Just added that note to the Electric Eels page, Witcher. Also gave Disciples of Verity a brief second listen. They're not as obvious a band to delete as the rest of the ones listed in that first category with Bad Medicine, etc. D.O.V. and Steel Owl could use a couple more opinions. A few of those bands, I don't know how they ever slipped through the cracks to end up on the site (Bulldoggs? haha). I bought the Split Beaver record before YouTube was around, just taking a chance on it, and it was a real let-down. Never thought of them as a metal band.

The truth is that back in the days we didn't have to provide song samples to get a band accepted. A review was most of the time enough, or a band biography etc. Also streaming albums were not available everywhere on the internet like today. Many bands got accepted based on 30 sec samples from cdbaby. I am sure many of them got deleted and reported later, but also many of those are still on the site. It's probably time someone work on these.

The remark about Bulldoggs made me check the related band Point Riot and imo it's not much heavier, in fact they play a very similar style of hard rock, the modern glam style of bands like Crashdiet, Hardcore Superstar, Crazy Lixx etxc.
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Po ... 3540428852
https://open.spotify.com/album/6pQYJzw7iHjH37S8Ho6QW7

Good call, Witcher (about looking into related bands). Point Riot actually sounds okay to me - better than some of these others. Wouldn't be opposed to them being deleted, though - borderline stuff. Was just checking out some other bands related to Bulldoggs, and came across this band Mister Kite (with a vocalist/guitarist that played in Origin Blood with the drummer of Bulldoggs) - atrocious stuff. Probably any band with a tie to Bulldoggs, no matter how distant a tie, should be checked out. Vote for deletion of the band Mister Kite.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYPUI6 ... RfCmeO-zOA
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Mister_Kite/8201

RE: Point Riot
I asked for the band to be whitelisted not long ago. It was then approved by KJ and MoS. Whether it gets deleted or not makes no difference to me, but if it is to be deleted, please set it back to "rejected". I want to hold on to it in my drafts for now. Thanks.

YYes, Mister Kite seem to be a mixture of progressive rock and grunge. I wonder, why nobody has noticed a problem with the band since 2003.
Compolete albums o Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/artist/08700CjH3wYvlL3Wz6FDWW

band called Lid, genre for them is Heavy/Stoner Metal, but I'm telling you there is no heavy, no stoner, no metal here
just listen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty89XI4 ... 2D&index=7
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Lid/12776

Johnny Truant- Predominantly technical/experimental hardcore. Their sound is overfilled with mathy breakdowns, the ssong sstructures wander often in the angsty screamo core territory. In many way comparable to early Today Is The Day, it don't think this is based predominatly on metal riffing:
https://music.teamdistort.com/album/no- ... -creatures
https://open.spotify.com/artist/6AqsSmGjWzRdylkPp9MKWU
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Johnny_Truant/3551

On Broken Wings- Submitted by the same user user as Johnny Truant, this is sonehow more metal. The problem is the the groovy metal riffing never lasts during the entire songs, but is quckly exchnged for either straightforward hardcore parts, Noise rock/alternative parts or djent riffs. This happens on all of their albums, so I don't think, that the band is predominantly metal.
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/On ... Wings/3553
https://open.spotify.com/artist/6YHwihvZnsvA1MohQx91AO

Seems fine

Unfortunately not, sorry but there is no metal here.

Heiliger Krieg - predominantly rac. The music is very similar to to the already blacklisted band Racewar, they only differences are, that tthe albums have now a crystal clear, professional production, that there is much more ballads on their albums, sometines they take up almost half of the album , and that they use more of the melodic guitar solos , played technically better. But the bul of the music is still in the rac realm.

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/He ... 3540383348
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x78flei
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7o3nbf
https://www.bitchute.com/video/vu7QZWFbRvA2/
https://rac-forum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=26788

Evelyn (Italy): Melodic hard rock:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Evelyn/3540279178
https://www.mediafire.com/file/wkwpioot ... b.rar/file

I think they were accepted based solely on the album "Bekenntnis" from 2014, which would explain why a lot of their stuff isn't very metallic. If that album is still fine maybe their page should have one of those "the band was accepted based on...." things to avoid confusion.

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/H ... nis/442649
https://www.bitchute.com/video/QuiKwYyyxrnw/

Even if it is possible that album is still prodominanlty rac in my book. It's nnot so much different from ttheir previous 2012 alm, is at least half made of ballads andthey are imo oly two songs with really notabele heavy metal iinfluences, the first song, but which is still structurally rac despite all the metal influenced soloing and another song wich has metallic riffs in the verses, but purely rac chorus. those rac bands are really touchy subject, so I wld like to ask you, and plplease do not take taht personally, to etter leave the answer up to a moderator.

The ballads feature metal riffs though I'd say.

If metal or hard rock riffs, that's actually the question, When the ballds transtion into faster tempo, the oi/punk strcutres of the songs are clearly showing. This type of songs/power ballads was also used by other rac bands like skrewdriver, for example:
https://soundcloud.com/llama-102355854/ ... rider-full
Anyway, I made myself rather clear, that I want to discuss such questions with a moderator , not with other users, so these polemics are rather pointless.

Iron Rain (USA): Hard rock:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Iron_Rain/72458
https://ironrain1.bandcamp.com/releases

Kidd Blue (USA): Melodic hard rock:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Kidd_Blue/129443
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=O ... CsSu-3w7hQ

Knightshade (New Zealand): Hard rock:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Knightshade/106147
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=O ... 8gyveLzND0
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=O ... 67q3UCtC-A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKGnJe7tyH0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNlaQlHSMBo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5HqweadBz8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xg8I0OGkkI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlYcpsLUs68
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hW257JZoOA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moXbBJLtk2Y

Updated list of all bands currently in question/opinion:
- Should be deleted: Bulldoggs, BraveHeart, DD Rand, Bad Medicine, Split Beaver, Atomic Angel, Harlow, Mister Kite, Lid, On
Broken Wings, Iron Rain, Kidd Blue, Knightshade
- Uncertain/indifferent: Steel Owl, Disciples of Verity, Johnny Truant, Heiliger Krieg, Evelyn (a couple songs are okay melodic metal, but probably too much of a rock style overall for the site)
- Okay to stay on site: Lynzee, Point Riot

(Electric Eels no longer in question after second album clips were provided/note added to their page that they were accepted based on that release)

Deleted Sacrilege (US). Minor name change to Sacrilege BC with all of the same band members. Moved the one demo that they released under this name to the Sacrilege BC page.

When we are at it, culd tha Maraya band page be merged with the wicked Maraya page?
Both bands also had the same memembers and have also played the same style, progressive/power metal (the current genre tags are quite incorrect). I have all their releases except for the secnod Maraya album so I am rather familiar with the band.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbXpNYrjd6Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQByJLLJFqQ
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Maraya/2120
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Wicked_Maraya/2119

I'm going to second the removal of this.

Minor name change:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Atro/3540416220
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Attro/8810

Neuromantic Witchcurse from Thailand.

This is a project of a good friend of mine, but is the music really predominantly metal? All I could hear is an inaudible riffs buried beneath the rough walls of noise. With all due respect, I would call this an experimental/noise with a glimpse of black/death elements and don't really think his project deserve a space on this site at this point.

https://neuromanticwitchcurse.bandcamp. ... perception

Deleted تفاقُم from Egypt. They originally went by the name Worsens. تفاقُم translates to Tafaqum, which is "Worsen" in English. Minor name change, no member changes.

تفاقُم (n.) doesn't exactly translate to "worsen" (v.) but to "worsening" (n.), meaning "aggravation" or "exacerbation".

Chronological Injustice: "tech death/groove metal". I think not.

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ch ... 3540408288
https://chronologicalinjustice1.bandcamp.com/releases

I see your point, but you can't "literally" translate from Arabic to any other language. I am confident that the band, in their point of view, are using the Arabic version of Worsens and didn't change the band name. In all cases, worsening is still a minor name change from worsens.

Deleted Attro (originally on site as Atro) (Brazil). Duplicate entry/minor name change of band from Atro to Attro.

Playing another round of catch-up and deleted Atomic Angel and Harlow. More to come.

I'm not super sure about Lynzee; does feel more like rock to me, however.

EDIT: Tossed Lynzee after all, as well as Bad Medicine and DD Rand.

Maraya pages merged.


I agree, there is absolutely no metal to be found. Deleted.

Deleted:

Bulldoggs (some metal especially on the first couple of tracks, but doesn't hold)
Split Beaver
Mister Kite
Johnny Truant
Evelyn (agreed with Spooky's take on this)

After re listening to it, I can see what EpicDismemberment is saying. So I'm going to delete them from the archives

Deleted Fulci (US). Duplicate entry that had been newly accepted, but they are based out of Italy. Their Bandcamp page says location: Hell, Michigan (likely a joke, not having relocated).

7th Heaven - melodic hard rock:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/7t ... 3540288882
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9VCEKM_JR0

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Me ... aged/92618 sounds like punk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiUbbhNs48g