Yeah, well, mistakes happen.

And from the link Azmodeus just gave:


So they're writing on them one-by-one.


From the sounds of it, they don't have that much money, either. Poor bastards are probably generous enough to distribute CDs, let alone send 'em out with a fancy cover.

I see some discussion about the band Goatskrieg, listed in Svalbard. I was curious (living in Finland) and did some research. Apparently there is a Bjørnøya that is loosely considered a part of Svalbard, but it only holds a meterological station and no permanent residents. It is impossible for this band to have grown up in Bjørnøya, and I assume their country should be changed to either "Unknown" because there appears to be no other indication of where they're actually from. None of their song titles are in Norwegian.

Reference:

http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rn%C3%B8ya

Their location says "Svalbard". Bjørnøya seems to be mentioned in the additional notes only: "Bjørn Sørensen and Søren Ølssen, both natives of Bjørnøya, Norway." Is it then impossible that Bjørn Sørensen and Søren Ølssen are natives of Bjørnøya? For example, children of the weather station people? Or working at the weather station themselves (which wouldn't exactly make them natives)? According to Wikipedia, the island's population was 9 as of in 2008.

However, it's good to remember the artists in question were probably born in the 70s or 80s. I didn't find anything on what the island's population was back then.

Besides that, the field is for country of origin. There are people in Svalbard.

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I suppose I've become wary of bands pulling these stunts for publicity. I have also spent about a month in the Faroe Islands, and while every band there is quite well-known enough (15,000 people in Torshavn only), this band -- "Vhernen" -- was completely unknown by any local I asked.

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Vhernen/72565

Additionally, their domain name:

vhernen-doom.tk

Is for "Tokelau," a New Zealand territory in the South Pacific. The website was live when I was visiting a year ago, I believe their admin address was somewhere completely else (another random small island).

I have been to quite a few islands and am suspicious of bands who post that they are from small places just for publicity.

Edit:

Yes here... it is registered to a false-sounding advertising agency in the Isle of Man

http://whois.domaintools.com/vhernen-doom.tk

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I am not suspicious of bands existing in Svalbard, but their story sounds somehow flimsy. I believe these islands like Jan Mayen, with a rotating crew of workers, would not generally permit someone to be born and grow up there and eventually form a band.

How many people did you ask? Looks like it's a one-man project, which may not have ever played live. It might quite well be obscure enough to be unknown to practically everyone.





You do understand .tk domains are usually used because they are free? I've used a few myself. And when a domain registration expires, domains are usually registered again because that tends to make money. Currently vhernen-doom.tk directs to a site called searchdiscovered.com, which seems to be filled with adverts. Same happens with a domain I used years ago. "Malo Ni Advertising" shows as its registrar too.

Malo Ni Advertising itself appears to be a Tokelau based advertising company, operating also from Isle of Man.



So looks like their business idea is to make money with advertising on domains they provide for free. Besides that they make more money with expired domains by turning them into a big advertisement. Just business, no conspiracy there. It seems to work too:




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And yeah, this isn't really evidence for either option if the question is whether a band made up its origins or not.

I did not know that about .tk, although I would say it's pretty likely someone in FO would know about Vhernen. It's such a small place, and of course metal being so marginal there, that anyone of a certain age bracket would nearly HAVE to know that the Vhernen project was happening. I asked maybe 10 people, most of whom were working in music or friends with musicians in metal bands. The people there are very interested in their exports, and Vhernen has a modest international following. As well as an international record label. The Faroese were proud of metal bands that had not achieved any real international success (bands not even listed on EM), but they had never heard of Vhernen.

Additionally, here's what is stated about Bjornoya:

Despite its remote location and barren nature, the island has seen commercial activities in past centuries, such as coal mining, fishing and whaling. However, no settlements have lasted more than a few years, and Bear Island is now uninhabited except for personnel working at the island's meteorological station Herwighamna.

This makes it completely impossible for anyone to have grown up there and still have a band there.

Neither of these bands have any photos of themselves nor concrete evidence about their location on any webpage. Everything Goatskrieg has ever posted or written has been in English. The same can be said of Vhernen, besides one one-word song title in Danish (autumn) and one a Faroese village. Faroese is a difficult language to attempt to translate just with internet because it's so marginally spoken. I would normally not be so suspect, but besides the other clues and the fact that Vhernen tries so hard to hide shroud himself in secrecy... the logical outgrowth would be to have some communication/album title/song in Faroese if it was truly his/her native tongue.

Won't try to push this anymore I'm just quite convinced these bands are both lying for publicity, and there is a huge reasonable doubt about them.

I quite liked a bit of Vhernen, but there are definitely real bands in both locations (Svalbard/Faroes) who deserve the publicity instead.

Well, that proves just that the people you asked didn't tell you they know the band. I can really quite easily see an alternative to those assumptions... Vhernen is one-man project. What if that one man is a misanthropic hermit no one knows in there? If he wants zero publicity? Also, you said metal is marginal there. His real life career could be in a business which doesn't tolerate metal.

Apparently, 30 MC copies were made of the first demo, and 100 CD-R copies were made from the first EP. After that they were signed. The band's label Eerie Art is Italian or so? Could be most/all of the demos were sold online.

However, the person who added all of the band's data has an interesting email address. http://www.metal-archives.com/users/Bla ... romSyberia

Hard to say if the location is real or fake without knowing, but that's no evidence. I guess for example asking would help more than that kind of assumptions.





Note that the fields are for "Country of Origin", and a more accurate location within a country. Bands can relocate but they can't change their origin.

Both of these bands are originally from South Africa:
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Dismortal/36177
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Imm ... lave/53297

Later Dismortal moved to England and Immortal Slave moved to Russia. For both bands that's reflected in the additional notes.

Another example:
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Des ... er_666/223

The band moved from Australia to Netherlands.



So yeah, if they started Goatskrieg while still living there, that's where the band is from.



So this covers 70s (probably when the members were born) and 1995 (when the band was apparently started)?





Contacting the bands themselves might be more likely to prove or disprove that.

I've deleted Akhlys and Temple of Not - both are dark ambient side projects of Nightbringer members without any metal in their music and without worldwide distribution.

Lately accepted band Throne of Decay http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Thr ... 3540336643 should be removed the labum will be released 15-11-2011.

"NEW ALBUM WILL BE RELEASED 11/15/2011!!! cds will be $10."

Deleted again.

sure that this one is metal enough?: http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Nas ... 3540336691

i have their ep and their album and in my opinion it's mostly folk rock not folk metal. (i only don't own their live dvd)
the ep isn't metal at all.
the album you can download here:
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you can also listen to many samples on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmntxXcF ... re=related

if you decide it's metal enough you should change the name to it's cyrillic form! (Наследие Вагантов)

Deleted "Soul in Pain": http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Sou ... 3540335437

Already in the archives, they go by the name "Soulinpain": http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Soulinpain/79215

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Suf ... 3540336791 seriously?

*sigh* Look, we get it... you don't like grind.

That band was submitted by a damn moderator, so it's clear they're deemed metallic enough. What is it with you and hating on grindcore bands, seriously?

Do you think such band with THAT much of release went unnoticed all that time because I or anyone else don't like grind or because it's obviously not enough metal based? Be logic man.

Also, this band is not metal: http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Nas ... 3540336691 as uglur stated before and should be removed.

EDIT: It's not the first time that this moderator submit un-accepted band and he also used to submit such un-acceptable metal bands since he was a normal user so relax, don't get me wrong I don't have anything against this moderator he's a good guy.

Grindcore bands made hundreds of releases. Splits...
So "THAT much of release" is not something that tell us that they are not metal.
From time to time some grindcore bands, like this one, are accepted.
I heard few songs and they were "metal enough" for me.
If someone is sure that every of they releases is not "metal enough" tell me.
I will remove them.

The thing is when a band is submitted by a moderator other moderators tend to intentionally ignore the re-evaluation of this band, same thing goes for the band Falloch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UU1BoanD2o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCDyCi_AyCw

Sounds like Insect Warfare if you ask me.

GraveWish, you are being an annoying irritant. If you don't mind, I'd suggest toning down the suggesting tone, if you know what I mean. Otherwise, I might start repeating what I just repeated.

I just listened to Falloch, and while you may think they do not belong, and that Animals as Leaders does, I think the other way around. Both are nothing I'd listen to very much, AaL because it's a mildly annoying and creatively completely hollow, Falloch because their own creativity seems to be limited to copying everything from Agalloch and tweaking it mildly in the same fashion as those former-Yugoslav hit factories do to Madonna's hits... including the band name. I mean, COME ON! At least find a new tree to use as a band name. How about Somniferum...? They do have a bit of Sigur Ros in the sound, though.

There, it's been checked. Happy?

Well, yes thanks for checking them. By the way I never said that AaL shouldn't be deleted on the contrary I supported you decision about removing the band just re-read my comment:

Мрак from Ukraine removed. After a long discussion here http://metalarea.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=158110 about it being fake or not (originally it was claimed that the demo is from 1993), alleged band member stated that the vinyl is limited to 4 copies only (one for each band member), and that it has been uploaded by band's friend, so obviously it's not available for general public and no one can get it, and "additional releases" weren't even recorded, only composed. Actually, I had blacklisted it before, but the user has somehow fooled the mod (probably put one non-Cyrillic character in the name).

Yes, they were submitted with the Latin spelling "Mrak". My bad, didn't know about that.

There is two bands under the name Kroh in the archives:
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Kroh/3540336242
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Kroh/3540334382

Removed one.

if i get the additional notes right, the demo was never released and as it's the only demo of the band they should be deleted!
(interesting track lengths by the way)

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Et ... Hole/61137

Deleted.

Delete Nocturn:

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Nocturn/3540296205

Duplicate of Nokturn:

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Nokturn/85661

deleted

Deleted Exile from US :http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Exile/60146

According to an interview with Tom Stevens, the re-release of "Blackened Rewards of Blasphemy" remains unreleased as of 2008. Also couldn't find any info on the re-release, or actually being released.

How come there are bands that have only splits or singles in the discography when the rules say that a demo is the minimum? Whenever I want to add a band, the option of adding a split is not allowed.

There is no "minimum required physical release" for a band - if it's physically released and has music, even if it's a DVD or something of the like, the band is allowed (provided the music is metal enough, of course).

As for splits, no, they can't be added to draft bands, for reasons I'm unaware of, but if a band's only physical release is a split, they can still be added to the website with no immediate discography and the split can be added later.

The word "demo" isn't emphasized in the rules, the word "physical" is. Perhaps the wording isn't ideal, but yeah, as MalignantThrone said, any format is acceptable if it meets that one criterion.

Please remove:
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Pr ... tov/174118

Its not a Demo its webattack against Ivan Chertov from Craving which was made back in 2007 (not 2006)
after a try to beat him up.

Krieg gegen Ivan Chertov means translated in Englisch: War agains Ivan Chertov.

After the first report in 2007 addictional notes were added by unknown user:
"This demo was free for people who hated Ivan Chertov. Ivan Chertov had begun a band war with Svartedauden. In 2006, Svartedauden beat him up and wrote this song."

Please Delete it!

Greetings

but if it exists?

but you can use this site to mention it to the authorities:
https://www.onlinewache.polizei.niedersachsen.de/
Also einen Strafantrag -- Strafanzeige kann nur derjenige stellen, der selber betroffen ist -- stellen; gegen das Label und die Band. Aufruf zum Mord (ausgehend vom Titel) oder etwas ähnliches; man müsste das im StGB nachschlagen.

It exists.

-edit- I edited the year in the additional notes. 2006 was indeed incorrect.

Lakter, next time please just make a report. This thread is for bands, not specific albums.

Yeah, that does make sense.

Deleted Heavy Metal Solarfall. Only demo was never released. New EP doesn't come out until December.

That's German for "tr00 kvlt".

This band http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/DamaJuana/117148 doesn't sound metal at all. Yes, this is the same band on this link http://www.myspace.com/damajuana