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KingSpooky
The Man, The Machine, The Legend

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:00 am 
 

Seems to be a very common thing lately to not take care of this along with the edit that they've passed away. Just cleaned up several of the most recent cases.

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Twilight
Mallcore Kid

Joined: Tue Apr 01, 2003 3:28 am
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Location: Finland
PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 7:01 am 
 

There is no "Active members" section on this encyclopedia. There is "Last known lineup". If a band has not released anything after the death of a band member, or haven't made a statement about continuing or replacing the deceased member, then the deceased member should very much stay in the "Last known lineup".

You are trying to create a rule that could lead to misinformation.

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KingSpooky
The Man, The Machine, The Legend

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 7:18 am 
 

In active bands, there is a 'current lineup' tab. As far as I've known it's common practice to take a deceased individual out of the current lineup tab, as it is misinformation that they are part of the current lineup.

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Derigin
The Mountain Man

Joined: Sun Jan 01, 2006 6:25 am
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Location: Canada
PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:21 am 
 

Additionally, please take note of the procedures of this news post dated May 11, 2022 when it comes to band statuses:

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You've probably noticed that on every band page we list the band's status. There are six options: active, on hold, split-up, unknown, changed name, and disputed. Typically, it's our policy that a band is listed as "active" unless proven otherwise (i.e. there's an official statement from the band saying that they're taking a break (thus, on hold), have changed their name (self-explanatory), or have decided to call it quits (and therefore split-up)). The "unknown" status is a placeholder, intended only to be used when there hasn't been activity from a band - even in the form of gigs and communication with fans - for a long time. The "disputed" status is for special cases involving band members claiming ownership of a band and deciding to take it in different directions - think Batushka or English Dogs.

When a band member dies, so long as there are other band members, and it's not just a solo project, do not change the band's status from "active". Wait until the band has made a statement about their plans before doing so. Just because a band member has died - even the frontman of the band - it does not necessarily mean the band is immediately over. The remaining band members may choose to keep playing, or take a break, or quit, but give them time to grieve and figure that out first. Sometimes a statement may never be given, but context is important, and we'll have a better sense of the band's status at a later point in time.

This is also true for other circumstances that might impact the lives of band members. Just because a band member may be charged with a crime and/or is incarcerated does not necessarily mean the band is automatically "on hold" or "split-up". The same is true if everyone but one person leaves a band; the band could remain active, you don't know unless the band says otherwise.

In any case, tl;dr: ideally, wait until the band makes a statement on its status before changing its status on MA.


When a band member does die, and the band shortly ends thereafter, they should be kept in the last known line-up (e.g. Windir). It's in cases where the band continues without them that a deceased band member should be removed from the current line-up and be listed as a past member.
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