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iamntbatman
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:50 pm 
 

Yeeeesh..."I myself aren't"?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:10 pm 
 

On Portal's Seepia, goredisorder wrote:
Is gobbledygook a genre? It should be, Seepia can be the definitive gobbledygook album. It is gobbledygook at its finest, with metallic guitars and sexually repressed grunting vocals layered under a wall of fuzz, thick fuzz, thicker than the chest hair of a really hairy fat guy.


Despite my disagreement with the review, I did find those lines quite humorous.

Edit: While I'm on the subject, I would like to thank RedMisanthrope for his Portal reviews. He really gets the band and it was his insightful reviews that peeked my curiosity in the band and made me investigate them, initially.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:43 am 
 

ThrashingMad wrote:
Damn, the complaints in this thread are becoming more and more trivial. Most aren't really "what the Christ", as much as "Hmm, that's kinda weird."

Alright, so you want some more real genuine "what the Christ" in this thread? I'll be happy to help you out. Let me introduce you to cinedracusio reviewing Clandestine Blaze's Church of Atrocity:

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Not to mention that the CV of this guy is destined to forge my impression that he is doing the music as a very non-involving business. Working in pervert porn business does not qualify him as a mastermind for me. Have you ever heard The Raven from Moonblood? Well, such a painful and sublime melody would be hard to conceive for someone who already has his thang and does black metal only for its own sake or from some convictions of his that would relate it to liberalism, the freedom of speech, freedom of melancholy, freedom of porn and fucking and stuff. It takes more than simple determination in order to make something memorable, something that really speaks and does not pale in comparison to the classics.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:45 am 
 

OlioTheSmall wrote:
While I'm on the subject, I would like to thank RedMisanthrope for his Portal reviews. He really gets the band and it was his insightful reviews that peeked my curiosity in the band and made me investigate them, initially.


You're welcome! :thumbsup:
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:34 pm 
 

caspian goes honest:

http://www.metal-archives.com/review.ph ... 7812#23414

See the dialogue part in the middle. Made me laugh out loud, not just LOL. :lol:
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 3:53 pm 
 

Well, since the review recommendation thread appears to be locked, I'll post this here:

DeathRiderDoom's a great reviewer who has the habit of uncovering some rather strange heavy metal albums (I swear he's often the only one outside of the band members who's heard a lot of it). This amused me:

http://metal-archives.com/review.php?id=53285#165461

A band that sounds like Saxon from the same place as Saxon? Crazy. Anyway, interesting stuff, keep at it! :thumbsup:
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:47 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=41

Absurder21's review is atrocious!

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The guitar work on this album, I found, was fairly sub-par. The riffs were boring and a little too melodic for my black metal tastes. Every time they came close to achieving black metal awesomeness in the riffs, they totally ruin it by throwing some crappy power metal riffs, destroying the bit instead of using a good black metal riff so that it can be good.


Are you kidding me!? So basically the album is bad because it's not full on black metal? This guy doesn't know shit, apparantly, because Bal Sagoth have never been "fully" black metal EVER! The closest they came is A Black Moon Broods over Lemuria, but that's more of a blackened death album. I don't even know why people call them black metal, or symphonic black metal. I find they have more in common with say, Rhapsody than Emperor. Either way, how can one argue with the riffs on songs like As the Vortex Illumines the Crystalline Walls of Kor-Avul-Thaa?

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There is about as much emotion in this as a plain piece of bread. I can’t think of any emotion you would use to describe it because it doesn’t instill any sort of feeling of anger, depression etc, emotions commonly found in black metal. I guess, I could say the emotion is epic?


I'm a pretty big fan of Bal Sagoth and their works and this is a display of stupidity actually bordering on offensive, until the end of the review...

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And finally the production is fine; it’s clean and shinny like a Killers album. But it’s black metal, so in my eyes that is a negative because it sort of takes out the raw energy of the entire genre. Great work guys, you created a super nerdy Dimmu Borgir album that raped Dragonforce and produced this bastard child!


If this album was my girlfriend, this guy just raped her mercilessly. Anyone else find this review to be particularily retarded?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:16 pm 
 

I can see not liking Bal Sagoth but that review is terrible. It isn't even close to being BM aside from the harsh vocals. The author is bashing the album for things he himself expected and didn't get.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:15 pm 
 

What. The. Fuck.

Bal-Sagoth have never been black metal in any way in my eyes, except perhaps a few glimpses on the first album as you pointed out. Has a lot more in common with death than anything. I call it Battle Metal, hah!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:00 am 
 

Well, the guy is an idiot for criticizing the album for failing at being something it's not even trying to do (and furthermore for making it sound like they accidentally do the things they actually want to do) but even in its negativity the album does provide some useful musical description. The barrier to entry to black metal for many symphonic/power metal fans is likely to be the vocals, so Bal-Sagoth are one of the better gateway bands for such people. If I was a big power metal fan who wasn't really into black metal and I read his review, it would sound like something I'd want to check out, regardless of the reviewer's opinion on it.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:09 pm 
 

When people bash my Bal-sagoth I cry a little. I just put the review down to him seeing the album's high average score and wanting to lower it. Life goes on....
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:34 pm 
 

It's not like the review is well written either. Oh well.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:45 am 
 

Noktorn, on Six Feet Under's Warpath wrote:
The operative word I would use to describe this album would be 'penisy'. It's like a big, floppy, flaccid penis. I mean, it's big- if it could get hard it might be able to satisfy, but unfortunately Six Feet Under suffers from musical erectile dysfunction and can't do anything but try and pack their big soft member into a hole that demands some rigidity. No matter how many times they claim that this is the first time such a thing has ever happened, we all know the truth: the band is in a permanent state of flop, and even if they managed to somehow get their way through 'Haunted' with a good amount of fingering and dirty talk, they only get softer from here.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:00 am 
 

Agree completely. :lol: Reminds me that I miss his work quite a bit, and this proves he needs to start reviewing more often again.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:38 am 
 

Somewhere I imagine, let's say, Karnstein_Records or ThrashingMad reading that passage and going "Oh, god! He said he wouldn't tell anyone! He said it happened to lots of guys :cry:!!"
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:00 pm 
 

Idiot of the day: Zombie_Quixtote and his Virgin Killer review:

factual inaccuracy wrote:
awful rock ballads as Rock You Like a Hurricane and No One Like You


Not really ballads, though, are they?

Maybe this would have made more sense if he'd applied it to something like Crazy World? Guess he just had those criticisms floating around and just had to pick that album.

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This is formulaic, rock and roll drivel at its worst. The songs are formulaic and so is the whole damn album. It's the formula that made the glam bands of the eighties so nauseating. Rock anthem, ballad, rock anthem, ballad, occassional speed metal track sprinkled in between and the band proclaims, "We've made an art!"


Yes, any band courting commerical success has their quirky guitarist sing Hendrix-y ballads in the mid-70s, sure. Also, point me to another band who had a similar chemistry as 70s Scorpions. Formulaic for mid-70s Scorpions... but surely being ahead of your time can't really count as formulaic if you're defining a formula?

Personal opinions aside, this review reeks of "I LISTENED ONCE AND THEN MADE CRITICISMS THAT DON'T REALLY APPLY". Geez, if you hate it so much at least put some effort into it.

Needs work. Really.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:47 pm 
 

It's the kind of review that not only do I suspect was written just to dissent from the normal opinion, but also one that really can't be argued about. His review is based pretty much entirely on the basis of "soul" - and to that end, can't really prove any points about the album so much as of the listener's very subjective interpretation. Which is fine; I've done the same thing with albums at times, albeit perhaps not to this extent. He can have his opinion, but I sure don't know what the fuck he was listening to.

I do have to put my foot down at "formulaic songs," though. Hate it all you want, it is a pretty objective fact that there's nothing formulaic about many songs on that album. That's just ridiculous. Because a hard rock song with rapping was so formulaic at the time, or perhaps one like "Crying Days," with its epic quality. Yeah, right.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:09 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=230#139265

This has probably been mentioned here before, but eh. I remember when this got accepted, I'd read a few reviews beforehand that ripped off UltraBoris' reviewing style to a certain degree, but not this fucking much :lol:. That review even takes the same shot at Robb Flynn and apes the diatribe about "metal kids" that were in the MoP review. The entire piece of writing is an oddity.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:25 am 
 

I HATE POPULAR MUSIC wrote:
awful rock ballads as Rock You Like a Hurricane and No One Like You


So basically anything less heavier than your average Sabbath song is a ballad.

Scorphater wrote:
This is formulaic, rock and roll drivel at its worst. The songs are formulaic and so is the whole damn album. It's the formula that made the glam bands of the eighties so nauseating."


No wait. Scorpions = Glam formula?
And having rapped vocals and proto thrash songs in your albums makes you formulaic. To top that, how can someone call UJR's playing formulaic?

I had actually expected it to be a good negative review when I read the first para but oh well...
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ScourgeOfDeath wrote:
I HATE POPULAR MUSIC wrote:
awful rock ballads as Rock You Like a Hurricane and No One Like You


So basically anything less heavier than your average Sabbath song is a ballad.

Scorphater wrote:
This is formulaic, rock and roll drivel at its worst. The songs are formulaic and so is the whole damn album. It's the formula that made the glam bands of the eighties so nauseating."


No wait. Scorpions = Glam formula?
And having rapped vocals and proto thrash songs in your albums makes you formulaic. To top that, how can someone call UJR's playing formulaic?

I had actually expected it to be a good negative review when I read the first para but oh well...


I don't think it can be done. It's impossible to hate 70s Scorpions for sensible reasons. :)
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:23 pm 
 

The beginning of this review for Convulse's World Without God always amused me.

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Abominatrix wrote:
ScourgeOfDeath wrote:
I HATE POPULAR MUSIC wrote:
awful rock ballads as Rock You Like a Hurricane and No One Like You


So basically anything less heavier than your average Sabbath song is a ballad.

Scorphater wrote:
This is formulaic, rock and roll drivel at its worst. The songs are formulaic and so is the whole damn album. It's the formula that made the glam bands of the eighties so nauseating."


No wait. Scorpions = Glam formula?
And having rapped vocals and proto thrash songs in your albums makes you formulaic. To top that, how can someone call UJR's playing formulaic?

I had actually expected it to be a good negative review when I read the first para but oh well...


I don't think it can be done. It's impossible to hate 70s Scorpions for sensible reasons. :)


Scorpions in the 70s were anything but glam, at least pre Taken By Force anyway.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:58 pm 
 

The new Mortification dedicates half a paragraph to moaning about a joke I made about the drums that I made in my review, and it does so in a rather baffling form of "English." Check it out:

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Certainly they have been stepping down in heaviness long ago and as far as that hitting the drums harder might be related to Satan, the other guy does not make any sense at all, thus it will be a flaw review but anyhow, this one is to be fair to the album itself and not just a ventilation of the frustration with Christianity that could be left for forums or follow Deicide if that bothers that much.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:26 am 
 

Kalelfromkrypton wrote:
it will be a flaw review


Atleast, he got one thing right. No wait he didnt; FLAW REVIEW.
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MetalSupremacy's new Iron Maiden review has a few other things I'm going to point out as particularly retarded:

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or as purely great as Priest's, in my opinion, and hopefully the opinions of everyone with genuine intelligence.


Well, getting some more intelligence on your own part would be a good start.

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Judas Priest are and always will be more purely and truly heavy metal than Iron Maiden could ever be.


I didn't know there was a contest...?

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This is a problem I've always had with Maiden, that frequently makes me question their metal status - if they are the best example of true heavy metal, then why does even one of their classic albums sound more like hard rock than heavy fucking metal?


Are you serious?

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And despite the fact that Maiden supposedly never sold out during this period(which is a lie anyway), I bet they liked the idea of extra cash, so they thought "fuck it, who cares...we'll be richer. If it's a little less metal, we can just tell the fans that ol' Martin was drunk when he produced it or something! Yeah, that'll work! No one will figure out the real truth!" Sorry, Maiden, but you didn't fool this metalhead.


This just isn't funny or good humor in the least.

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It really does scream "single", though, which is hardly a very metal quality and one more likely to be seen on a very commercial hard rock or pop album than a metal one.


Yeah, and Priest never had anything resembling a catchy single. This review is so intelligent it's making my brain hurt!

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The most interesting aspect of this song is the history behind its conception and inception. Apparently Steve Harris asked Frank Herbert for permission to title the song "Dune". However, Mr. Herbert's agent apparently said something back along the lines of: "No. Because Frank Herbert doesn't like rock bands, particularly heavy rock bands, and especially rock bands like Iron Maiden". Hilarious. Another example of the "older generation" pooh-poohing metal, supposedly at least. In actuality they probably all love it but just pretend to hate it because it's how they are perceived. Thankfully this didn't become a big controversy like the idiotic "Maiden are Satanists" hype that took off in the US because of Number Of The Beast. Funny nonetheless.


Irrelevant...completely irrelevant.

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Maiden planted their sickeningly commercial flowery melodies all over the place, but because they covered it up with "amazing songwriting" and "progressive tendencies", they got away with it and weren't called sellouts and pop-metal wannabes when they rightly should have been. Meanwhile, Priest laboured on producing real heavy fucking metal, and releases such as Defenders Of The Faith, a masterwork of heavy metal if there ever was one, were largely ignored in favour of the likes of Powerslave. It's disgusting, and just goes to show how the majority of people are too stupid to look past mediocrity for genuinely good music, and would sooner accept the former than the latter.


Okay, what? What kind of drugs is this guy doing? I love some Priest too, but honestly, are you really going to do this? This is asinine. Completely retarded swill. Yes, Defenders of the Faith is a masterpiece, but, um, what the hell is the problem with Powerslave? "Pop metal wannabes"? Someone get this kid out of here, this shit is fucking ridiculous.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:34 pm 
 

Iron Maiden is not
1 Hard Rock
2 Pop Metal
3 Power Metal
4 Flower Metal

Anyone who thinks that they are anything but Heavy Metal can leave the fuckin hall.

And I think MetalSupremacy was successful in his attention whoring attempts. He atleast made it to this thread.

Also why didnt he just go and give Turbo a 100 instead of reviewing Iron Maiden.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:21 pm 
 

The incredible lengths he goes trying to prove his points is what truly baffles me. Such effort and at least decent writing talent, and yet such unbelievable retardation, it's that huge contrast that truly boggles the mind. Yeah, NO cheese and NO poppy tendencies in Night Comes Down and Love Bites - only heavy metal in its purest form, more than Maiden's proggy hard rock stuff "that one can't even headbang to" could ever hope to be! (for the record, I love both Priest songs) The guy obviously has a personal thing against them, or some of their fans. Only thing good thing I can say about the review is that he shares my less common opinion of Piece of Mind being superior to both The Number of the Beast and Powerslave, although it's a pretty minor difference in (ridiculously high) quality.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:40 pm 
 

ScourgeOfDeath wrote:
3 Power Metal


From 84 to 88 they were pretty damn close.

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if one is really pushing it, then their work from 84 to 88 may come somewhat close.


Fixed.


On a more serious note, that era may indeed have some elements that most power metal bands that came after them started using but calling it Power metal is like calling Venom black metal.

But to each his own. I still think that associating them with power metal is highly erroneous. I mean how can you call something like '7th son' close to power metal.
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No it really isn't at all. Maiden were far closer to a power/prog band in that era than Venom are to legitimate black metal who really share nothing substantial in common with the genre.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:09 am 
 

ThrashingMad wrote:
No it really isn't at all. Maiden were far closer to a power/prog band in that era than Venom are to legitimate black metal who really share nothing substantial in common with the genre.


Well if you are going to force parallels then almost all of the heavy metal bands from the era can be considered power metal, even the likes of Priest. I dont deny that their were a few elements in Maiden's work at the time that certain PM bands also displayed but I ll repeat that Maiden could in no way be outrightly called power metal.

I ll agree about the presence of prog though. They were indeed more progressive than Venom were black metal.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:31 am 
 

droneriot really hitting the nail here in his Disharmonic Orchestra - Expositionsprophylaxe review.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:15 am 
 

Going back to MetalSupremacy's review of Maiden, I don't really have a problem with his opinion. These kinds of Priest fanboys who feel the need to hate on Maiden are plentiful. It's the fact that he turns the review into a blogpost about Priest and Maiden in general and albums aside from the one that should be reviewed. Half of the review is a diatribe against another Maiden album, instead of focusing on the album at hand.

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He submitted an Iron Maiden review that made the one you humans have been occasionally discussing look restrained and concise in comparison. He devoted several sizable paragraphs alone to sermonizing on how he would be persecuted and treated as a heretic for his views. It was quite a (revolting) sight. I rejected it, but perhaps he edited out the self-obsessed parts like I told him to and resubmitted. Or, hell, perhaps he just resubmitted it and got lucky with a different staffer on duty.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:13 am 
 

ScourgeOfDeath wrote:
ThrashingMad wrote:
No it really isn't at all. Maiden were far closer to a power/prog band in that era than Venom are to legitimate black metal who really share nothing substantial in common with the genre.


Well if you are going to force parallels then almost all of the heavy metal bands from the era can be considered power metal, even the likes of Priest. I dont deny that their were a few elements in Maiden's work at the time that certain PM bands also displayed but I ll repeat that Maiden could in no way be outrightly called power metal.

I ll agree about the presence of prog though. They were indeed more progressive than Venom were black metal.


Maiden, Priest, Venom and other bands of their caliber had the luxury of existing in a decade (decades, in Priest's case) when bands were less reliant on existing securely within a pre-determined genre. The reason for the confusion around their genres is that lesser, more recent groups have simply distilled individual elements of these bands into more genre-specific music, which is reflected back, in hindsight, onto bands who originated the sounds being emulated. For example, power metal band Primal Fear have a habit of ripping off Judas Priest, but that doesn't make Judas Priest themselves strictly power metal.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:31 pm 
 

alexlovestheredchord on Black Sabbath's Heaven and Hell wrote:
The saddest part of the album is how the excellent moments shine through the tripe, Dio’s vocals and occasional old-Sabbath moments shine in spite of the hard rock influences. Not that those influences are bad but they just mesh the songs into one long filler campaign. If you are a die-hard Sabbath fan pick it up but Master of Reality this is not, and for the metalhead just download “Neon Knights” and the title track and forget about this album. I don’t recommend this album at all when you can just go out and buy their older material.


Ok, I get that someone can think that Heaven and Hell is overrated or don't do any thing for them, but suggest that people shouldn't bother with this album just because you as one single individual don't like it is stupid. Are all the other people who reviewed this album just fucking with the readers when they call it an classic?
I hate when reviewers act like this.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:34 pm 
 

HOT_DOG_DAY_89 wrote:
alexlovestheredchord on Black Sabbath's Heaven and Hell wrote:
The saddest part of the album is how the excellent moments shine through the tripe, Dio’s vocals and occasional old-Sabbath moments shine in spite of the hard rock influences. Not that those influences are bad but they just mesh the songs into one long filler campaign. If you are a die-hard Sabbath fan pick it up but Master of Reality this is not, and for the metalhead just download “Neon Knights” and the title track and forget about this album. I don’t recommend this album at all when you can just go out and buy their older material.


Ok, I get that someone can think that Heaven and Hell is overrated or don't do any thing for them, but suggest that people shouldn't bother with this album just because you as one single individual don't like it is stupid. Are all the other people who reviewed this album just fucking with the readers when they call it an classic?
I hate when reviewers act like this.


I actually considered posting something about this review. Although there seems to be nothing (sadly) which could disqualify it from being accepted, the tone and point of view of it is moronic.

Also, describing a Black Sabbath chorus as "tight"...ugh. I suppose he thinks the solos are "bangin', bro" or something similiarly repulsive.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:32 pm 
 

Everyone has a view of some classic album or another that would make them a pariah when discussing it. Let's just all accept this reality and never bring it up in conversation out of mutual shame.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:59 pm 
 

Voice_of_Reason wrote:
Everyone has a view of some classic album or another that would make them a pariah when discussing it. Let's just all accept this reality and never bring it up in conversation out of mutual shame.


It's not about if his views make him an pariah or not, it's his claim that no one but die-hard Sabbath fans should pick up Heaven and Hell. I've seen this type of thing in other reviews as well. It's ok to disagree with positive reviews on albums you don't like, but pretending that they don't exists is retarded. I'm not saying that's what he did, but it feels like it in the way he expressed him self.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:48 pm 
 

HOT_DOG_DAY_89 wrote:
Voice_of_Reason wrote:
Everyone has a view of some classic album or another that would make them a pariah when discussing it. Let's just all accept this reality and never bring it up in conversation out of mutual shame.


It's not about if his views make him an pariah or not, it's his claim that no one but die-hard Sabbath fans should pick up Heaven and Hell. I've seen this type of thing in other reviews as well. It's ok to disagree with positive reviews on albums you don't like, but pretending that they don't exists is retarded. I'm not saying that's what he did, but it feels like it in the way he expressed him self.


That's retarded. When someone says something like "only for die-hard fans" or "buy used" or "download first", it's simply an extension of their subjective opinion put into a real-world context. They're not literally saying "eschew all other opinions but mine and do what I am telling you to do regarding the purchasing of this album right now."

You're arguing semantics.

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