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Reviews for In the Woods...'s Heart of the Ages

Only Just Passable... - 50%
Written by WilliamAcerfeltd on April 18th, 2007

I honestly don't know why this album is so celebrated. This album brings nothing original to the table. Although this album is considered by many to be black metal, this album was done long ago in the doom metal scene. However, the originality of this album isn't the problem. The REAL problem is the fact the songs just aren't that great. The songs for the most part, just aren't that interesting, the guitars and the drumming aren't technical and the even though the clean vocals are good, the "harsh vocals" just suck.

First for the songs, as mentioned above, they just aren't that interesting. There are no solos to be found on this album (at least I can not remember any) and the guitar riffs are pretty simple for the most part. There is nothing wrong if the songs are simple, Cannibal Corpse, for example, have some pretty interesting songs which are simple, however this is not the case here. The same can be said of the drumming, don't expect to be wowed by intense, fast complex drumming, just prepare yourself for some pretty average drumming. What's surprising about the drumming being so mediocre is that Kobro, the drummer of Carpathian Forest does drums here. Judging from some of the Carpathian Forest songs I've heard, he's a very good drummer, why he held back here is a simply mystery to me. Another problem with the songs is that there were some sound effects (e.g. random electronic noises and beeping) added to the songs which were totally irrelevant and added nothing to the song overall. In fact, they detracted from the song. Quite simply, these sound effects shouldn't have been there, had they not been added, I would have looked upon this album more favourably, only marginally though.

Now, for the vocals. It's very important to have a vocalist who suits the style of music you’re playing. The guy is not a bad clean vocalist and his deep vocals suit the music quite well. The problem is when he starts doing black metal vocals. There are two problems with this, 1. they are in the background, 2 he sucks. To give you an idea of what he sounds like, recall what Maria Sharapova sounds like when she’s hitting a tennis ball. If you can, you will know what he sounds like. I am not trying to be a smart ass or anything here, he really does sound like that. Thankfully however, about 70% of this album is clean vocals and some songs such as Heart of the Ages have no black metal vocals on them. But, it's extremely difficult to appreciate the music when he's doing his annoying black metal vocals. For example, I was enjoying the song, The Divinity of Wisdom, but he’s vocals drastically weakened that song and, it wasn’t the first time either. There is also a female vocalist on this album, although she only features on one song, which was a shame because she did sound quite nice.

There are a lot of ambient sound breaks in this album which are nice and do create a sort of, nice peaceful atmosphere. Sometimes, they have whispers mixed into them, with a soft, slow acoustic guitar being played in the background. I thought this was a pretty nice/cool idea.

In conclusion, this album is overall lacking. I was really expecting big things from this album, but came away disappointed. At the end of the album, I paused for a moment and said, "So, that was it?" I failed to realise what was so great about the album and still don't see what's so good about it. So, in summary this album isn't the worst thing I've heard, but it falls miles short of my expectations and what it's hyped up to be. A nice thing about this album (I thought I might throw this in here for the hell of it) is that it has nice art work, but art work alone doesn't cut it.

Conclusion: The above is not recommended for purchase, get it only if it's given to you for free or if you really want to listen to it, but if you don't you're not missing much, believe me.

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This guy missed the point completely; comparing In the Woods to Cannibal Corpse? Being appalled by the lack of solo guitars? This guy has reviewed stuff like Nokturnal Mortum and Limbonic Art and then he writes this semi-diary of worthless experiences with an album he's too young to comprehend.

Are you sure you're not too young to understand the review?

I mean, he didn't use the Cannibal Corpse comparison as a part of the musical description, but as a way to convey the bigger idea of musical simplicity. Nowhere in the review does he write that they sound alike, just that it's possible to make music that is both good and simple (from the songwriting point of view), and that the band being reviewed failed in that. And you mention the "lack of solo guitars" as a bad point in the review, but you don't refute the fact, you just think it's not a problem on the album, right? If it bothers the reviewer, he has the liberty to say it.

About the solo thing: you'd have to be a real moron to actually expect soloing on a black metal(-ish) album.

Are you sure you're not too young to understand the review?

the rest of his reviews, which are neatly classified into very low scores for untr00 black metal and very high scores for the kvlt classics.

Napero wrote:

Are you sure you're not too young to understand the review?

TotalWarfare wrote:

the rest of his reviews, which are neatly classified into very low scores for untr00 black metal and very high scores for the kvlt classics.

Question answered. Only little kiddies write stuff like "tr00" and "kvlt".

Not to nitpick but... you know... Mayhem.

droneriot wrote:

Napero wrote:

Are you sure you're not too young to understand the review?

TotalWarfare wrote:

the rest of his reviews, which are neatly classified into very low scores for untr00 black metal and very high scores for the kvlt classics.

Question answered. Only little kiddies write stuff like "tr00" and "kvlt".

You seem all too happy to disregard the cynic undertone of my quoted statement. Are you deliberately dumb or was it my mistake to leave out some clarifying emoticons?

TotalWarfare wrote:

droneriot wrote:

Napero wrote:

Are you sure you're not too young to understand the review?

TotalWarfare wrote:

the rest of his reviews, which are neatly classified into very low scores for untr00 black metal and very high scores for the kvlt classics.

Question answered. Only little kiddies write stuff like "tr00" and "kvlt".

You seem all too happy to disregard the cynic undertone of my quoted statement. Are you deliberately dumb or was it my mistake to leave out some clarifying emoticons?

You must be very new to the internet if you think that lamest of all excuses still impresses anyone.

Ah yes, amusing to see how in one discussion Mayhem are ridiculed by some, and in the next lauded by the same. Until someone finally finds out about that, I'm going to have to ask you to find a better example.

I had heard rumours of a sort of clique of rather arrogant senior members being sceptical towards newcomers, and they seem to have been confirmed.

TotalWarfare wrote:

I had heard rumours of a sort of clique of rather arrogant senior members being sceptical towards newcomers, and they seem to have been confirmed.

Ah, the logical next step, blaming all criticism of your obvious failure on senior members being too intolerant of newcomers. Keep working, soon you'll have made your way through all the stereotypes.

I walked to the post office today and found King Arthur's Excalibur as well as The Rosetta Stone both lying in a ditch, but, sadly, I didn't find any coins.

Imagine that either of those are Unholy Trinity.

droneriot wrote:

TotalWarfare wrote:

I had heard rumours of a sort of clique of rather arrogant senior members being sceptical towards newcomers, and they seem to have been confirmed.

Ah, the logical next step, blaming all criticism of your obvious failure on senior members being too intolerant of newcomers. Keep working, soon you'll have made your way through all the stereotypes.

The fact that you have actually constructed catch-all stereotypes proves that your misbegotten seniority has risen to your head.

I'd like to ask where that failure of mine was committed, but then of course you'll be cheering "The Stereotype of Denial!" at me like a black preacher.

About the solo thing: you'd have to be a real moron to actually expect soloing on a black metal(-ish) album.

Noktorn wrote:

Imagine that either of those are Unholy Trinity.

Wow, you just blew my mind!

requiem99 wrote:

Noktorn wrote:

Imagine that either of those are Unholy Trinity.

Wow, you just blew my mind!

I don't know why, but that was hilarious.

http://www.metal-archives.com/userreviews.php?id=82464&nickname=stormruller

Anyone else think most of this guy's reviews are really amateurish?

Nightgaunt wrote:

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I stand corrected, and obviously did not interpret the thread to its fullest. As usual, it took a rational and polite post to make me aware of this. Thank you for being more mature than your predecessors in this topic.

The solo thing can be argued on and on about, and perhaps this is not the place for a discussion about it. Suffice to say that I make the distinction between lead and solo, and while I have heard plenty of the former in bm, I've yet to chance upon a noteworthy band using solos (Crystalium, eeesh). Besides, I'm of the mindset that you can't go into bm expecting to hear solos and leads, there's plenty of indispensible albums that don't have any of that going on. If there are solos and leads and they work out, well great, but if that's one of the factors upon which to decide the worth of an album...

http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=16328

This is pretty useless. One paragraph for a split and he doesn't even talk about one of the bands, and the one he does talk about is incredibly thin.

Okay, another retarded sentence in the new Dimension Zero review:

"Swedish melodic death metal has always been a "taboo genre" within extreme metal."

Yes, this is why At The Gates, Dark Tranquillity, early In Flames, etc. are all highly revered. Because they're so fucking taboo.

Noktorn wrote:

well, since it's actually true for most melodic death/gothenburg nowadays, I don't see it as being quite as unfitting as you do.

Noktorn wrote:

well, since it's actually true for most melodic death/gothenburg nowadays, I don't see it as being quite as unfitting as you do.

Nightgaunt wrote:

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Wow there's a difference between leads & solos? I've been playing for 16 years, dammit nobody told me. All this time I've been soloing when I could have been playing leads!

feratu wrote:

Wow there's a difference between leads & solos? I've been playing for 16 years, dammit nobody told me. All this time I've been soloing when I could have been playing leads!

Good for you.

Author:	burtonrulez [ Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:12 pm ]
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And so in the sky, shines the electric eye!!!!! - 99% Written by Gabometal86 on May 5th, 2005 BLACK SABBATH – PARANOID 1970 was an intense yet highly satisfying year for Black Sabbath. February saw the release of their eponyomously titled debut. By the end of the year they’d released another album and enjoyed a top ten single with its title track “Paranoid”. “Paranoid” (the album) contains some of the band’s most enduring material in the form of “War Pigs”, “Iron Man”, “Planet Caravan” and of course the title track. This album recorded quickly in July and released in September was going to be called “War Pigs” but their US label Warner Bros. (the bastards who drew Bugs Bunny) felt that the title could offend the American customers who still were sensible about the Vietnam War. Unfortunately the decision of changing the album’s title was made too late to alter the album’s finished artwork, and thus it features the blurred, futuristic and sword waving warrior that had been prepared for it’s original title. Despite the fact that lyrically the album contains no satanic references. The band’s name and its doomy and gloomy sound was undeniably catalogued as demonic. But looking back over the tracklist of this album, it becomes apparent that the band wrote more paens to the use and abuse of drugs than to the glory of worshipping Lucifer. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the first paragraph of a review for Paranoid. This is not a bad introduction to a review, you think. In fact it's brilliant. But that's because it's merely a slightly paraphrased version of the notes in the booklet that come with the CD re-issue. This is blatant plagiarism, although I believe that the rest of the review is original material.

Author:	Nightgaunt [ Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:52 pm ]
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Yes, we've encountered that issue in some of Gabometal86's other reviews in the past. If you happen to find any others with the same issue, just provide his name and the album title here.

Author:	TotalWarfare [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:56 pm ]
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Quote: Reviews for In the Woods...'s Heart of the Ages Only Just Passable... - 50% Written by WilliamAcerfeltd on April 18th, 2007 I honestly don't know why this album is so celebrated. This album brings nothing original to the table. Although this album is considered by many to be black metal, this album was done long ago in the doom metal scene. However, the originality of this album isn't the problem. The REAL problem is the fact the songs just aren't that great. The songs for the most part, just aren't that interesting, the guitars and the drumming aren't technical and the even though the clean vocals are good, the "harsh vocals" just suck. First for the songs, as mentioned above, they just aren't that interesting. There are no solos to be found on this album (at least I can not remember any) and the guitar riffs are pretty simple for the most part. There is nothing wrong if the songs are simple, Cannibal Corpse, for example, have some pretty interesting songs which are simple, however this is not the case here. The same can be said of the drumming, don't expect to be wowed by intense, fast complex drumming, just prepare yourself for some pretty average drumming. What's surprising about the drumming being so mediocre is that Kobro, the drummer of Carpathian Forest does drums here. Judging from some of the Carpathian Forest songs I've heard, he's a very good drummer, why he held back here is a simply mystery to me. Another problem with the songs is that there were some sound effects (e.g. random electronic noises and beeping) added to the songs which were totally irrelevant and added nothing to the song overall. In fact, they detracted from the song. Quite simply, these sound effects shouldn't have been there, had they not been added, I would have looked upon this album more favourably, only marginally though. Now, for the vocals. It's very important to have a vocalist who suits the style of music you’re playing. The guy is not a bad clean vocalist and his deep vocals suit the music quite well. The problem is when he starts doing black metal vocals. There are two problems with this, 1. they are in the background, 2 he sucks. To give you an idea of what he sounds like, recall what Maria Sharapova sounds like when she’s hitting a tennis ball. If you can, you will know what he sounds like. I am not trying to be a smart ass or anything here, he really does sound like that. Thankfully however, about 70% of this album is clean vocals and some songs such as Heart of the Ages have no black metal vocals on them. But, it's extremely difficult to appreciate the music when he's doing his annoying black metal vocals. For example, I was enjoying the song, The Divinity of Wisdom, but he’s vocals drastically weakened that song and, it wasn’t the first time either. There is also a female vocalist on this album, although she only features on one song, which was a shame because she did sound quite nice. There are a lot of ambient sound breaks in this album which are nice and do create a sort of, nice peaceful atmosphere. Sometimes, they have whispers mixed into them, with a soft, slow acoustic guitar being played in the background. I thought this was a pretty nice/cool idea. In conclusion, this album is overall lacking. I was really expecting big things from this album, but came away disappointed. At the end of the album, I paused for a moment and said, "So, that was it?" I failed to realise what was so great about the album and still don't see what's so good about it. So, in summary this album isn't the worst thing I've heard, but it falls miles short of my expectations and what it's hyped up to be. A nice thing about this album (I thought I might throw this in here for the hell of it) is that it has nice art work, but art work alone doesn't cut it. Conclusion: The above is not recommended for purchase, get it only if it's given to you for free or if you really want to listen to it, but if you don't you're not missing much, believe me. This guy missed the point completely; comparing In the Woods to Cannibal Corpse? Being appalled by the lack of solo guitars? This guy has reviewed stuff like Nokturnal Mortum and Limbonic Art and then he writes this semi-diary of worthless experiences with an album he's too young to comprehend.

Author:	Empyreal [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:57 pm ]
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TotalWarfare wrote: Quote: Reviews for In the Woods...'s Heart of the Ages Only Just Passable... - 50% Written by WilliamAcerfeltd on April 18th, 2007 I honestly don't know why this album is so celebrated. This album brings nothing original to the table. Although this album is considered by many to be black metal, this album was done long ago in the doom metal scene. However, the originality of this album isn't the problem. The REAL problem is the fact the songs just aren't that great. The songs for the most part, just aren't that interesting, the guitars and the drumming aren't technical and the even though the clean vocals are good, the "harsh vocals" just suck. First for the songs, as mentioned above, they just aren't that interesting. There are no solos to be found on this album (at least I can not remember any) and the guitar riffs are pretty simple for the most part. There is nothing wrong if the songs are simple, Cannibal Corpse, for example, have some pretty interesting songs which are simple, however this is not the case here. The same can be said of the drumming, don't expect to be wowed by intense, fast complex drumming, just prepare yourself for some pretty average drumming. What's surprising about the drumming being so mediocre is that Kobro, the drummer of Carpathian Forest does drums here. Judging from some of the Carpathian Forest songs I've heard, he's a very good drummer, why he held back here is a simply mystery to me. Another problem with the songs is that there were some sound effects (e.g. random electronic noises and beeping) added to the songs which were totally irrelevant and added nothing to the song overall. In fact, they detracted from the song. Quite simply, these sound effects shouldn't have been there, had they not been added, I would have looked upon this album more favourably, only marginally though. Now, for the vocals. It's very important to have a vocalist who suits the style of music you’re playing. The guy is not a bad clean vocalist and his deep vocals suit the music quite well. The problem is when he starts doing black metal vocals. There are two problems with this, 1. they are in the background, 2 he sucks. To give you an idea of what he sounds like, recall what Maria Sharapova sounds like when she’s hitting a tennis ball. If you can, you will know what he sounds like. I am not trying to be a smart ass or anything here, he really does sound like that. Thankfully however, about 70% of this album is clean vocals and some songs such as Heart of the Ages have no black metal vocals on them. But, it's extremely difficult to appreciate the music when he's doing his annoying black metal vocals. For example, I was enjoying the song, The Divinity of Wisdom, but he’s vocals drastically weakened that song and, it wasn’t the first time either. There is also a female vocalist on this album, although she only features on one song, which was a shame because she did sound quite nice. There are a lot of ambient sound breaks in this album which are nice and do create a sort of, nice peaceful atmosphere. Sometimes, they have whispers mixed into them, with a soft, slow acoustic guitar being played in the background. I thought this was a pretty nice/cool idea. In conclusion, this album is overall lacking. I was really expecting big things from this album, but came away disappointed. At the end of the album, I paused for a moment and said, "So, that was it?" I failed to realise what was so great about the album and still don't see what's so good about it. So, in summary this album isn't the worst thing I've heard, but it falls miles short of my expectations and what it's hyped up to be. A nice thing about this album (I thought I might throw this in here for the hell of it) is that it has nice art work, but art work alone doesn't cut it. Conclusion: The above is not recommended for purchase, get it only if it's given to you for free or if you really want to listen to it, but if you don't you're not missing much, believe me. This guy missed the point completely; comparing In the Woods to Cannibal Corpse? Being appalled by the lack of solo guitars? This guy has reviewed stuff like Nokturnal Mortum and Limbonic Art and then he writes this semi-diary of worthless experiences with an album he's too young to comprehend. It's just his opinion, there's not much wrong with that review. It's not the best review, but it's not "oven fodder."

Author:	Napero [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:17 pm ]
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Are you sure you're not too young to understand the review? I mean, he didn't use the Cannibal Corpse comparison as a part of the musical description, but as a way to convey the bigger idea of musical simplicity. Nowhere in the review does he write that they sound alike, just that it's possible to make music that is both good and simple (from the songwriting point of view), and that the band being reviewed failed in that. And you mention the "lack of solo guitars" as a bad point in the review, but you don't refute the fact, you just think it's not a problem on the album, right? If it bothers the reviewer, he has the liberty to say it. I don't see any serious problems with the review. It stays. No, I haven't heard the album. If you disagree, write a review of your own. A review is a question of opinion in any case, and you may freely disagree, but that's not a reason to nuke it.

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Author:	Noktorn [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:19 pm ]
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Plus, the Maria Sharpova description is pretty damned funny.

Author:	TotalWarfare [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:58 pm ]
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Napero wrote: Are you sure you're not too young to understand the review? I mean, he didn't use the Cannibal Corpse comparison as a part of the musical description, but as a way to convey the bigger idea of musical simplicity. Nowhere in the review does he write that they sound alike, just that it's possible to make music that is both good and simple (from the songwriting point of view), and that the band being reviewed failed in that. And you mention the "lack of solo guitars" as a bad point in the review, but you don't refute the fact, you just think it's not a problem on the album, right? If it bothers the reviewer, he has the liberty to say it. What bothers me most is that he is comparing rather well-constructed, intricate ten minute songs with Cannibal Corpse. About the solo thing: you'd have to be a real moron to actually expect soloing on a black metal(-ish) album. Oh well, maybe I'm just connecting the dots too much; the dots being a) the reviewer's account name, and b) the rest of his reviews, which are neatly classified into very low scores for untr00 black metal and very high scores for the kvlt classics.

Author:	Noktorn [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:01 pm ]
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TotalWarfare wrote: About the solo thing: you'd have to be a real moron to actually expect soloing on a black metal(-ish) album. Not to nitpick but... you know... Mayhem.

Author:	droneriot [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:14 pm ]
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Napero wrote: Are you sure you're not too young to understand the review? TotalWarfare wrote: the rest of his reviews, which are neatly classified into very low scores for untr00 black metal and very high scores for the kvlt classics. Question answered. Only little kiddies write stuff like "tr00" and "kvlt".

Author:	TotalWarfare [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:31 pm ]
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droneriot wrote: Napero wrote: Are you sure you're not too young to understand the review? TotalWarfare wrote: the rest of his reviews, which are neatly classified into very low scores for untr00 black metal and very high scores for the kvlt classics. Question answered. Only little kiddies write stuff like "tr00" and "kvlt". You seem all too happy to disregard the cynic undertone of my quoted statement. Are you deliberately dumb or was it my mistake to leave out some clarifying emoticons? Quote: Not to nitpick but... you know... Mayhem. Ah yes, amusing to see how in one discussion Mayhem are ridiculed by some, and in the next lauded by the same. Until someone finally finds out about that, I'm going to have to ask you to find a better example.

Author:	droneriot [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:34 pm ]
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TotalWarfare wrote: droneriot wrote: Napero wrote: Are you sure you're not too young to understand the review? TotalWarfare wrote: the rest of his reviews, which are neatly classified into very low scores for untr00 black metal and very high scores for the kvlt classics. Question answered. Only little kiddies write stuff like "tr00" and "kvlt". You seem all too happy to disregard the cynic undertone of my quoted statement. Are you deliberately dumb or was it my mistake to leave out some clarifying emoticons? You must be very new to the internet if you think that lamest of all excuses still impresses anyone.

Author:	TotalWarfare [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:42 pm ]
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droneriot wrote: TotalWarfare wrote: droneriot wrote: Napero wrote: Are you sure you're not too young to understand the review? TotalWarfare wrote: the rest of his reviews, which are neatly classified into very low scores for untr00 black metal and very high scores for the kvlt classics. Question answered. Only little kiddies write stuff like "tr00" and "kvlt". You seem all too happy to disregard the cynic undertone of my quoted statement. Are you deliberately dumb or was it my mistake to leave out some clarifying emoticons? You must be very new to the internet if you think that lamest of all excuses still impresses anyone. Naah, I'm just new to this board. I had heard rumours of a sort of clique of rather arrogant senior members being sceptical towards newcomers, and they seem to have been confirmed. Still, I continue to assume that intelligent forms of humour and ridicule can be constructed textually without the use of stupidly small images, and I guess I'd better work a bit harder at it, so as to actually make you 'get it' next time round. Thanks for enlightening me!

Author:	Noktorn [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:51 pm ]
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TotalWarfare wrote: Ah yes, amusing to see how in one discussion Mayhem are ridiculed by some, and in the next lauded by the same. Until someone finally finds out about that, I'm going to have to ask you to find a better example. What? I've never ridiculed Mayhem that I can remember. I don't know what you're talking about. And even if I did, I was just pointing out the fact that they have solos.

Author:	droneriot [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:55 pm ]
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TotalWarfare wrote: I had heard rumours of a sort of clique of rather arrogant senior members being sceptical towards newcomers, and they seem to have been confirmed. Ah, the logical next step, blaming all criticism of your obvious failure on senior members being too intolerant of newcomers. Keep working, soon you'll have made your way through all the stereotypes.

Author:	Xeogred [ Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:37 pm ]
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ITS ENDLESS!!!

Author:	Noktorn [ Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:27 pm ]
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You've got to be shitting me. http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=10331#76112

Author:	TotalWarfare [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:06 pm ]
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droneriot wrote: TotalWarfare wrote: I had heard rumours of a sort of clique of rather arrogant senior members being sceptical towards newcomers, and they seem to have been confirmed. Ah, the logical next step, blaming all criticism of your obvious failure on senior members being too intolerant of newcomers. Keep working, soon you'll have made your way through all the stereotypes. The fact that you have actually constructed catch-all stereotypes proves that your misbegotten seniority has risen to your head. I'd like to ask where that failure of mine was committed, but then of course you'll be cheering "The Stereotype of Denial!" at me like a black preacher.

Author:	Noktorn [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:14 pm ]
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I'm not really asking for it to be deleted, but I can't think of anywhere to post this quote from the new review of the Unholy Trinity EP: "Haven't you realized that it's very common to find a coin in the ground, but it's not common to find a valuable relic? Imagine Unholy Trinity is that relic." No shit, coins are more common than relics. That's some deep shit, bro.

Author:	requiem99 [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:48 pm ]
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I walked to the post office today and found King Arthur's Excalibur as well as The Rosetta Stone both lying in a ditch, but, sadly, I didn't find any coins.

Author:	Noktorn [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:07 pm ]
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requiem99 wrote: I walked to the post office today and found King Arthur's Excalibur as well as The Rosetta Stone both lying in a ditch, but, sadly, I didn't find any coins. Imagine that either of those are Unholy Trinity.

Author:	requiem99 [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:41 pm ]
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Noktorn wrote: Imagine that either of those are Unholy Trinity. Wow, you just blew my mind!

Author:	Nightgaunt [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:33 pm ]
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TotalWarfare wrote: droneriot wrote: TotalWarfare wrote: I had heard rumours of a sort of clique of rather arrogant senior members being sceptical towards newcomers, and they seem to have been confirmed. Ah, the logical next step, blaming all criticism of your obvious failure on senior members being too intolerant of newcomers. Keep working, soon you'll have made your way through all the stereotypes. The fact that you have actually constructed catch-all stereotypes proves that your misbegotten seniority has risen to your head. I'd like to ask where that failure of mine was committed, but then of course you'll be cheering "The Stereotype of Denial!" at me like a black preacher. The failure he's speaking of is the initial post in the thread. You have targeted a pretty plainly legitimate (if unremarkable) review for termination, thereby displaying a lack of understanding for the way the thread works. Your primary assertions about why the review should be deleted (you've cited his username and previous reviewing patterns as key points) apparently boil down to it having been written by an "elitist." You have also demonstrated a marked emotional investment (on a relative scale, of course) in saying that the review "bothers you", and by using craven, backhanded language such as "tr00" and "kvlt." Regardless of any humor you supposedly intended, these seem to be your only arguments. This is unacceptable. Reviews do not become susceptible to liquidation merely by virtue of having an injurious effect upon the tenderhearted. Read the first few pages of the thread to get a feel for what kinds of reviews are so susceptible. Quote: About the solo thing: you'd have to be a real moron to actually expect soloing on a black metal(-ish) album. Since I know there will be even less chance of your listening to me than there already is if I embarrass you too much, we'll ignore France, Sweden, Finland, and most of South America and the Mediterranean and pretend that you didn't say that. In short, you made a mistake (two, if we count the initial misplacement of the post). It's nobody's fault but your own. It's also not a big deal. You were very gently and politely corrected by my colleague, Napero, at the outset. He's an agreeable fellow like that. Now, heed him, and dispense with the cavalier attitude.

Author:	Nahsil [ Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:36 am ]
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requiem99 wrote: Noktorn wrote: Imagine that either of those are Unholy Trinity. Wow, you just blew my mind! I don't know why, but that was hilarious.

Author:	TotalWarfare [ Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:07 am ]
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Nightgaunt wrote: ... I stand corrected, and obviously did not interpret the thread to its fullest. As usual, it took a rational and polite post to make me aware of this. Thank you for being more mature than your predecessors in this topic. The solo thing can be argued on and on about, and perhaps this is not the place for a discussion about it. Suffice to say that I make the distinction between lead and solo, and while I have heard plenty of the former in bm, I've yet to chance upon a noteworthy band using solos (Crystalium, eeesh). Besides, I'm of the mindset that you can't go into bm expecting to hear solos and leads, there's plenty of indispensible albums that don't have any of that going on. If there are solos and leads and they work out, well great, but if that's one of the factors upon which to decide the worth of an album...

Author:	Empyreal [ Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:50 am ]
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Nahsil wrote: requiem99 wrote: Noktorn wrote: Imagine that either of those are Unholy Trinity. Wow, you just blew my mind! I don't know why, but that was hilarious. Kinda reminded me of a commercial or something.

Author:	Empyreal [ Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:35 pm ]
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http://www.metal-archives.com/userrevie ... tormruller Anyone else think most of this guy's reviews are really amateurish?

Author:	Noktorn [ Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:36 pm ]
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Empyreal wrote: http://www.metal-archives.com/userreviews.php?id=82464&nickname=stormruller Anyone else think most of this guy's reviews are really amateurish? "After the great "Oceans Of Time" I couldn't wait no longer for a new Axel Rudi Pell CD..." He couldn't fuckin' wait no longer!

Author:	Noktorn [ Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:21 pm ]
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http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=16328 This is pretty useless. One paragraph for a split and he doesn't even talk about one of the bands, and the one he does talk about is incredibly thin.

Author:	Abominatrix [ Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:02 pm ]
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TotalWarfare wrote: Nightgaunt wrote: ... I stand corrected, and obviously did not interpret the thread to its fullest. As usual, it took a rational and polite post to make me aware of this. Thank you for being more mature than your predecessors in this topic. The solo thing can be argued on and on about, and perhaps this is not the place for a discussion about it. Suffice to say that I make the distinction between lead and solo, and while I have heard plenty of the former in bm, I've yet to chance upon a noteworthy band using solos (Crystalium, eeesh). Besides, I'm of the mindset that you can't go into bm expecting to hear solos and leads, there's plenty of indispensible albums that don't have any of that going on. If there are solos and leads and they work out, well great, but if that's one of the factors upon which to decide the worth of an album... That was a pretty weak review, yes, but as others have said, not nuke-worthy. Er, I have to argue with both of you though, because I"m pretty sure there is at least one full-blown solo on that album .. is it in "WOtan's Return"?

Author:	Abominatrix [ Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:04 pm ]
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Noktorn wrote: http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=16328 This is pretty useless. One paragraph for a split and he doesn't even talk about one of the bands, and the one he does talk about is incredibly thin. Yes, that was crap; and it's gone.

Author:	Noktorn [ Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:22 pm ]
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Okay, another retarded sentence in the new Dimension Zero review: "Swedish melodic death metal has always been a "taboo genre" within extreme metal." Yes, this is why At The Gates, Dark Tranquillity, early In Flames, etc. are all highly revered. Because they're so fucking taboo.

Author:	CannibalCorpse [ Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:57 pm ]
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Noktorn wrote: Okay, another retarded sentence in the new Dimension Zero review: "Swedish melodic death metal has always been a "taboo genre" within extreme metal." Yes, this is why At The Gates, Dark Tranquillity, early In Flames, etc. are all highly revered. Because they're so fucking taboo. well, since it's actually true for most melodic death/gothenburg nowadays, I don't see it as being quite as unfitting as you do.

Author:	Metalich [ Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:01 pm ]
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CannibalCorpse wrote: Noktorn wrote: Okay, another retarded sentence in the new Dimension Zero review: "Swedish melodic death metal has always been a "taboo genre" within extreme metal." Yes, this is why At The Gates, Dark Tranquillity, early In Flames, etc. are all highly revered. Because they're so fucking taboo. well, since it's actually true for most melodic death/gothenburg nowadays, I don't see it as being quite as unfitting as you do. Maybe for the metal-purist as found on sites like this, but a review speaks to everyone - and everyone (as in all metal fans in general) holds these bands in high regard.

Author:	Noktorn [ Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:13 pm ]
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CannibalCorpse wrote: Noktorn wrote: Okay, another retarded sentence in the new Dimension Zero review: "Swedish melodic death metal has always been a "taboo genre" within extreme metal." Yes, this is why At The Gates, Dark Tranquillity, early In Flames, etc. are all highly revered. Because they're so fucking taboo. well, since it's actually true for most melodic death/gothenburg nowadays, I don't see it as being quite as unfitting as you do. Yes, but he used the word 'always', as if people were screaming about 'Gothenburger shit' when 'The Gallery' came out.

Author:	feratu [ Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:42 pm ]
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TotalWarfare wrote: Nightgaunt wrote: ... I stand corrected, and obviously did not interpret the thread to its fullest. As usual, it took a rational and polite post to make me aware of this. Thank you for being more mature than your predecessors in this topic. The solo thing can be argued on and on about, and perhaps this is not the place for a discussion about it. Suffice to say that I make the distinction between lead and solo, and while I have heard plenty of the former in bm, I've yet to chance upon a noteworthy band using solos (Crystalium, eeesh). Besides, I'm of the mindset that you can't go into bm expecting to hear solos and leads, there's plenty of indispensible albums that don't have any of that going on. If there are solos and leads and they work out, well great, but if that's one of the factors upon which to decide the worth of an album... Wow there's a difference between leads & solos? I've been playing for 16 years, dammit nobody told me. All this time I've been soloing when I could have been playing leads!

Author:	TotalWarfare [ Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:15 pm ]
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feratu wrote: Wow there's a difference between leads & solos? I've been playing for 16 years, dammit nobody told me. All this time I've been soloing when I could have been playing leads! Good for you.