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Author:  Witcher [ Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:43 pm ]
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PhantomOTO wrote:
What was the exact mistake in the Morsüre review?


"As I understand it, Morsure ("bite wound") was never really a working band. More a one-off project, it was the brainchild of Parisian bass virtuoso/soundtrack composer Eric Serra (best known for his collaborations with Luc "Nikita" Besson). It seems he had the desire to make his mark on the burgeoning thrash metal scene, and to create an album faster than anyone else's - and that's the way it was received at the time by the minority of people who actually heard it."


The beginning, apparently this is not the same person as the Luc Besson related composer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Serra

He wrote something like " Eric Serra, no way, incorrect, which complete idiot wrote it, that is nonsense, see my book (or interview) with them.
He left no e-mail, but judging from the style and insider references, it was most probably really The Snakepit owner.


There are users, like oneyoudontknow, who actually try to get the original versions of the cover songs, before they write a review, to be as correct as possible.
Aren't the reviews featured here with such mistaskes a bit unfair to those dedicated users?

Author:  hells_unicorn [ Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:11 pm ]
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requiem99 wrote:
cined: Not disposable, describes the music, one of 5 reviews and a more than adequate piece of work. If the album gets over 20 higher quality reviews I will not complain when it is nuked. Besides, someone has to offset the ridiculous HU fanboying of Golden Cow Crap.


Although I agree your reviews are plenty descriptive and neither of them deserve to be nuked, this statement might lead one to question whether or not you rate albums based on your own opinions or on what others think. I'm not trying to be a dick, I just don't understand this whole mentality that someone needs to offset another person's opinion.

Author:  Thorgrim_Honkronte [ Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:55 pm ]
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http://metal-archives.com/review.php?id=102186

JOB's review of Decapitated - Organic Hallucinosis

He didn't even review a retail copy, it was the promo he got. I'm not quite sure but I think I remember the rules being you had to actually have listened to the real version to review it?

Author:  droneriot [ Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:09 pm ]
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Thorgrim_Honkronte wrote:
http://metal-archives.com/review.php?id=102186

JOB's review of Decapitated - Organic Hallucinosis

He didn't even review a retail copy, it was the promo he got. I'm not quite sure but I think I remember the rules being you had to actually have listened to the real version to review it?

Only if the music differs.

Author:  Thorgrim_Honkronte [ Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:11 pm ]
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It might. Either way he's a tool for thinking it was supposed to be on there.

Author:  Morrigan [ Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:25 pm ]
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failsafeman wrote:
His subsequent attitude sure did. Writing lots of reviews shouldn't give him a carte blanche to be a total douche.

No argument there, which is why I didn't bother restoring the review.

Author:  Arsenic [ Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:44 pm ]
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Witcher wrote:
He wrote something like " Eric Serra, no way, incorrect, which complete idiot wrote it, that is nonsense, see my book (or interview) with them.
He left no e-mail, but judging from the style and insider references, it was most probably really The Snakepit owner.

Ha ha that's definitley Laurent Ramadier, the owner of Snakepit magazine. He used to write letters and trade tapes with Gil Tadic, the brother of Morsure's drummer. He always gets his facts right plus Morsure were from his home country, France.

Author:  oneyoudontknow [ Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:48 pm ]
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Witcher wrote:
There are users, like oneyoudontknow, who actually try to get the original versions of the cover songs, before they write a review, to be as correct as possible.

By the way... what are the policies on this matter now? Am I allowed to ask in a forum on the board for the original version of a track I do not have and am not able to find in the internet; especially as I do not use torrents and soulseek, so it is hard to lay hands on some releases respectively tracks? There is also the problem that currently there is no thread in which such request could be placed properly; perhaps the 'Free For All' one...

Author:  ~Guest 21181 [ Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:07 pm ]
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http://www.metal-archives.com/userrevie ... =Deadwired

See the Machine Head review. I think the elitist card is only ban-worthy on the forums, but if it isn't this needs to be nuked. He didn't even really use the word right.

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"Machine Head? I liked the band better when they were Vio-Lence."
"Rob Flynn was better in Forbidden."
"They only have one good album."
"That shit's Nu-Metal."
"He raps."

Shut the fuck up. Seriously.

Machine Head are, and always will be, a unit that caters to Robert Flynn's current likes and dislikes. The whole you are what you eat philosophy, except musicians consume music. It's the same thing with Machine Head. I mean, am I the only one that doesn't see why "Imperium" had a tremolo section, taking into consideration what the current music trend was? Metalcore. Killswitch Engage. Tremolo fucking riffing.

I've been a Machine Head fan since I was first introduced to harder Metal by way of Darkane, and I still have a lot of fondness for the band. Just like every other Metalhead, I did not like "The Burning Red" or some of "Supercharger," though that album is highly underrated and overly-slagged. However, I was as astonished and rewarded as any Metal fanatic would've been to hear this album, Machine Head returning to a Thrashier sound at their core, whilst maintaining some experimental aspects. The point is that they experiment. Yeah, they tried integrated Nu into their Groove sound, because it was only the next logical step. Instead, Machine Head induct a new ethic of experimenting with some foreign sounds.

And I do mean foreign. There's a lot of a Swedish and Finnish influence on this album; just check out the tremolo passage in "Imperium" that made every Machine Head fanatic drop a jaw. Or, the US bonus track(Which we fucking deserved. Fuck you very much, Roadrunner), "Seasons Wither." There's also some experimentation with more Sludgey music, as in the track "Elegy." The point here is that the music on this album isn't a "Return to their core," it's Machine Head scoring a hit with their experimentation rather than a miss. They've found their niche, and that's what we've pretty much all been waiting on. What's going on with this album is more than just Groove, it's a band tampering with their sound as much as possible and producing excellent results by successfully compounding influences. Songs like "Imperium" and "In the Presence of My Enemies" are destined to be two songs Machine Head will break out live several times, and fans'll sing to by heart, while songs like "Vim" and "Descend the Shades of Night" continue to reveal aspects of Machine Head that are more than just standard Post-Thrash or Groove.

If you don't like this album, you're a shitty elitist. Honestly. There's too much that's going on underneath this album to dismiss it as petty Nu-Metal bullshit, and if that's what you see, I suggest picking up a book or a guitar.


*emphasis added

Author:  BlackCancer [ Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:55 pm ]
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Review for Phobia (US) - Grind Your Fucking Head In

Barely discusses the music, or anything else for that matter. Link: www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=22035

Grinding Brutality - 95%
Written by ingrindwecrust on July 11th, 2004

This is the first Phobia album I heard and it made a damn good impression on me. Phobia is now one of my favorite bands. The sound clips in the beggining of the songs are hilarious and right after them, the band dives into insane brutality.
The song 'Ailing Addiction' has one of the gnarliest riffs I have ever heard. Almost every song is very fast except for one song is doom/sludgeish. It seems that Phobia gets brutaler the longer the guitarists dreads get, and theyre gettin pretty damn long now.
Any fans of grind or death metal or crust should for sure get this album.

Author:  cinedracusio [ Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:53 am ]
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I have a vague feeling that the latest review of Root's Kargeras is a review that was deleted some time ago, for being too simplistic. If I am not right, it STILL is too simplistic.
http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=3082

Author:  Dexter [ Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:36 am ]
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Reviewer:Xeper
link: http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=11612

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I'll admit, I kind of like this album. The drumming's tight (sounds triggered too, can't quite tell though) and pretty fast, the guitarists pull out some melodic and thrashy (albeit repetitive) riffing here and there, and the soloing is quite competent, with standard gothenburg vocals. It's not bad, per se. But in case you haven't figured it out by now, this album didn't leave me overflowing with praise, simply because it sounds like every album I've ever heard by Hatesphere, Enter My Silence, The Everdawn (is that the same Oskar? even the font of the band name matches), or the multitude of other gothenburg bands who don't have very distinctive sounds. If you can't get enough of that Swedish At the Gates/In Flames worship sound, I suppose you'll eat this right up, but I don't predict that I'll be listening to it ever again after about a week or so. Can't fault them for being technically competent and whatnot, but not worth money IMO.


The review is kind of fine, but it is VERY short and not descriptive enough. He is not describing instruments, songs, production, etc. Very poor.

Author:  Visionary [ Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:46 am ]
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And if you thought 'Shovel' was their worst� - 10%
Written by morbert on November 2nd, 2007

With releasing this piece of boredom called �The Atrocity Exhibition� Exodus certainly did their best to make their earlier 2005 album Shovel Headed Kill Machine sound like real thrash metal. Whereas on Shovel it was the horrid computerized production and the metalcore vocals of Rob Dukes that ruined the possibility of it being a fairly decent thrash metal album, this time they also got rid off real riffs and up tempo songs leaving us with nothing but 59 minutes of� sound.

With their decent comeback album �Tempo Of The Damned� the band were still recognisably Exodus albeit with a modern production and a higher amount of mid paced material. But in 2007 there is nothing left reminding us of what Exodus once was, a raging thrash metal band with superb riffs and cool characteristic vocals. With �The Atrocity Exhibition� Exodus have released something that can be compared to Testament�s �Demonic� or Slayer�s �Diabolus In Musica� being an album that should have been released under a different name with a different audience in mind.

Progression can be a good thing, but throwing everything away that made you famous in the first place can be considered stupidity. Would this have been a brand new band, I would have given the album about 40 or 50 points, for there are some nice moments but never good nor great. Knowing this is the band that once released Fabulous Disaster and Bonded By Blood, we the fans can do nothing else but cry, accept our loss and leave the cemetery. Exodus has passed away. Probably to be summoned from the dead (again) in a few years with Hunolt and Souza.

http://www.metal-archives.com/review.ph ... 524#101472

As much as I hate the album the only musical description is that this is not like Bonded by Blood and there are no uptempo songs.

Author:  droneriot [ Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:42 am ]
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Visionary wrote:
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And if you thought 'Shovel' was their worst� - 10%
Written by morbert on November 2nd, 2007

With releasing this piece of boredom called �The Atrocity Exhibition� Exodus certainly did their best to make their earlier 2005 album Shovel Headed Kill Machine sound like real thrash metal. Whereas on Shovel it was the horrid computerized production and the metalcore vocals of Rob Dukes that ruined the possibility of it being a fairly decent thrash metal album, this time they also got rid off real riffs and up tempo songs leaving us with nothing but 59 minutes of� sound.

With their decent comeback album �Tempo Of The Damned� the band were still recognisably Exodus albeit with a modern production and a higher amount of mid paced material. But in 2007 there is nothing left reminding us of what Exodus once was, a raging thrash metal band with superb riffs and cool characteristic vocals. With �The Atrocity Exhibition� Exodus have released something that can be compared to Testament�s �Demonic� or Slayer�s �Diabolus In Musica� being an album that should have been released under a different name with a different audience in mind.

Progression can be a good thing, but throwing everything away that made you famous in the first place can be considered stupidity. Would this have been a brand new band, I would have given the album about 40 or 50 points, for there are some nice moments but never good nor great. Knowing this is the band that once released Fabulous Disaster and Bonded By Blood, we the fans can do nothing else but cry, accept our loss and leave the cemetery. Exodus has passed away. Probably to be summoned from the dead (again) in a few years with Hunolt and Souza.

http://www.metal-archives.com/review.ph ... 524#101472

As much as I hate the album the only musical description is that this is not like Bonded by Blood and there are no uptempo songs.

Looks fine to me.

Author:  Bloodstone [ Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:17 pm ]
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Visionary wrote:
As much as I hate the album the only musical description is that this is not like Bonded by Blood and there are no uptempo songs.


That about sums up your review as well, or at least the justification of your rating. Yours may have more musical description, but I still gathered about the same thing from it.

Author:  Abominatrix [ Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:46 pm ]
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cinedracusio wrote:
I have a vague feeling that the latest review of Root's Kargeras is a review that was deleted some time ago, for being too simplistic. If I am not right, it STILL is too simplistic.
http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=3082


Gah, I rejected that some time ago and sent him a message via the often-faulty e-mail notification telling him to fix the small factual accuracies in his review. He didn't do it, I see, but I guess it's entirely possible he didn't get the notification, so my initial anger might be unwarranted. Other than that, I suppose the review is a bare three-pointer; I wouldn't really delete it as it is.

Author:  Noktorn [ Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:35 pm ]
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I pointed out this weird plagiarism a while ago, but I suppose it never got deleted.

http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=23885

Author:  DustyFox [ Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:17 pm ]
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I realise that a lot of the reviews that were submitted back then were not up to the standards that are required nowadays but lawd, Warriorofmoderndeath's review of St. Anger is atrocious.

Author:  _z10_ [ Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:51 am ]
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http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=15715#267

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Meh... - 78%
Written by Snxke on December 1st, 2002

(Reviewing Festering Sore songs)
These are some great bloody songs I tell you - but the overall feel is just lacking on this EP. It's interesting for both Rampage and Festering Sore fans (as it's part of a split) but in reality for the "others" I simply cannot suggest it as being on the same level as "Chlorine in the Gene Pool" which is simply one of the best thrash records in recent history.

Tis' qaulity work for FS diehards...but the end result is not really that fascinating. The full length on the other hand - is needed for ANY collection.

Author:  SRX [ Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:23 pm ]
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Visionary wrote:
Quote:
And if you thought 'Shovel' was their worst� - 10%
Written by morbert on November 2nd, 2007

With releasing this piece of boredom called �The Atrocity Exhibition� Exodus certainly did their best to make their earlier 2005 album Shovel Headed Kill Machine sound like real thrash metal. Whereas on Shovel it was the horrid computerized production and the metalcore vocals of Rob Dukes that ruined the possibility of it being a fairly decent thrash metal album, this time they also got rid off real riffs and up tempo songs leaving us with nothing but 59 minutes of� sound.

With their decent comeback album �Tempo Of The Damned� the band were still recognisably Exodus albeit with a modern production and a higher amount of mid paced material. But in 2007 there is nothing left reminding us of what Exodus once was, a raging thrash metal band with superb riffs and cool characteristic vocals. With �The Atrocity Exhibition� Exodus have released something that can be compared to Testament�s �Demonic� or Slayer�s �Diabolus In Musica� being an album that should have been released under a different name with a different audience in mind.

Progression can be a good thing, but throwing everything away that made you famous in the first place can be considered stupidity. Would this have been a brand new band, I would have given the album about 40 or 50 points, for there are some nice moments but never good nor great. Knowing this is the band that once released Fabulous Disaster and Bonded By Blood, we the fans can do nothing else but cry, accept our loss and leave the cemetery. Exodus has passed away. Probably to be summoned from the dead (again) in a few years with Hunolt and Souza.

http://www.metal-archives.com/review.ph ... 524#101472

As much as I hate the album the only musical description is that this is not like Bonded by Blood and there are no uptempo songs.

agreed, there is practically no musical description at all.

Author:  ~Guest 126069 [ Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:37 pm ]
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Gortician's review for Burial(US)'s release Mourning the Millenium is pretty bad.

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This is just basically Cannibal Corpse cloning death, which I find very uninteresting and quite boring.
The band do show that they are competent musicians , Guitars are heavy with a shredding solo or two, Vocals are very similar to CC era Chris Barnes, and drums are blasting throughout.Lyrics are also very Corpse-like.
It is just there are too many bands like this, and like this, most of them are very boring and predictable.
I'd get their full-length instead, It is much better and way more brutal than this is.


The only musical discription is comparing them to Cannibal Corpse, and a few vague sentences about the guitars and drums.

Author:  requiem99 [ Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:54 pm ]
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I just got back in and no, I'm not changing anything. It was a silly thing to argue about and its hard to believe you insisted on one over such an insignificant point, especially when it amounted to an opinion of a sound reference, Magnum cover or no it wasn't Magnum doing the song, it was another band with OTHER influences. It just so happens that both bands arose in the same area of the world in the same genre at almost exactly the same time -- you think maybe they sound somewhat alike at times? I don't actually know the answer to that because I don't know Magnum, it was just a guess, but I do know Scorpions influence when I hear it, and I heard it.

I hear, and I write about what I hear. I do not ask others what they hear or ask their permission for a differing opinion.

Author:  requiem99 [ Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:58 pm ]
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hells_unicorn wrote:
requiem99 wrote:
cined: Not disposable, describes the music, one of 5 reviews and a more than adequate piece of work. If the album gets over 20 higher quality reviews I will not complain when it is nuked. Besides, someone has to offset the ridiculous HU fanboying of Golden Cow Crap.


Although I agree your reviews are plenty descriptive and neither of them deserve to be nuked, this statement might lead one to question whether or not you rate albums based on your own opinions or on what others think. I'm not trying to be a dick, I just don't understand this whole mentality that someone needs to offset another person's opinion.


Because you and I agree on quite a few things but you just like everything and I've come to realize I can't trust your reviews for buying. I thought I could when I first met you, but there is just no possible way. You'd give a '97' to 68 minutes of Sonata Arctica playing one long live version of "San Sebastian" even if it cost 40 bucks as a Japanese import. I feel a duty to offset that kind of thing, like I've got to stop people from wasting their money (like I did).

Author:  hells_unicorn [ Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:47 pm ]
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requiem99 wrote:
hells_unicorn wrote:
requiem99 wrote:
cined: Not disposable, describes the music, one of 5 reviews and a more than adequate piece of work. If the album gets over 20 higher quality reviews I will not complain when it is nuked. Besides, someone has to offset the ridiculous HU fanboying of Golden Cow Crap.


Although I agree your reviews are plenty descriptive and neither of them deserve to be nuked, this statement might lead one to question whether or not you rate albums based on your own opinions or on what others think. I'm not trying to be a dick, I just don't understand this whole mentality that someone needs to offset another person's opinion.


Because you and I agree on quite a few things but you just like everything and I've come to realize I can't trust your reviews for buying. I thought I could when I first met you, but there is just no possible way. You'd give a '97' to 68 minutes of Sonata Arctica playing one long live version of "San Sebastian" even if it cost 40 bucks as a Japanese import. I feel a duty to offset that kind of thing, like I've got to stop people from wasting their money (like I did).


You're the first person to tell me that you've wasted money due to one or more of my reviews, I have a feeling that not everyone has your tastes, so I fail to see this sense of duty in any practical reality. It could be that people are just being polite and not sending me complaints (I get plenty regarding my Pantera and Mastodon reviews), but then again, I don't think this site is renowned for that level of courtesy.

Author:  caspian [ Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:55 am ]
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hells_unicorn wrote:
You're the first person to tell me that you've wasted money due to one or more of my reviews, I have a feeling that not everyone has your tastes, so I fail to see this sense of duty in any practical reality. It could be that people are just being polite and not sending me complaints (I get plenty regarding my Pantera and Mastodon reviews), but then again, I don't think this site is renowned for that level of courtesy.


I think people get more fired up about negative reviews of bands they love then vice versa. I can't recall ever getting annoyed about the many reviews that praise Opeth and Nightwish etc.

Author:  saintinhell [ Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:29 am ]
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caspian wrote:
hells_unicorn wrote:
You're the first person to tell me that you've wasted money due to one or more of my reviews, I have a feeling that not everyone has your tastes, so I fail to see this sense of duty in any practical reality. It could be that people are just being polite and not sending me complaints (I get plenty regarding my Pantera and Mastodon reviews), but then again, I don't think this site is renowned for that level of courtesy.


I think people get more fired up about negative reviews of bands they love then vice versa. I can't recall ever getting annoyed about the many reviews that praise Opeth and Nightwish etc.



Ultraboris?? :D

Author:  saintinhell [ Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:31 am ]
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That reminds me, got to get started with my Consign to Oblivion review..I got serious issues with the phrase flower metal. :D

Author:  Mungo [ Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:02 am ]
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I know this has been bought up before, and I may sound like a Sodom fanboy, but morbert's review of The Final Sign of Evil is nukeable:

http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=160652

He talks about the drums the whole time, and the only other thing he says is that the new songs are 'memorable'. That doesn't tell me a whole lot; there's nothing about the new production job, the way they rerecorded their songs and how they turned up, and he takes 90 fucking points off for some drums that are supposed to be sloppy!

Author:  saintinhell [ Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:27 am ]
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well, the rating may be harsh but I do think what seemed to be a good idea didn't quite turn out that well..and the production is such that the guitars and drums distinctly lack the bite of the original. Anyway he seems to have a valid point, only the rating seems to be on the harsher side.

Author:  hells_unicorn [ Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:54 pm ]
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caspian wrote:
hells_unicorn wrote:
You're the first person to tell me that you've wasted money due to one or more of my reviews, I have a feeling that not everyone has your tastes, so I fail to see this sense of duty in any practical reality. It could be that people are just being polite and not sending me complaints (I get plenty regarding my Pantera and Mastodon reviews), but then again, I don't think this site is renowned for that level of courtesy.


I think people get more fired up about negative reviews of bands they love then vice versa. I can't recall ever getting annoyed about the many reviews that praise Opeth and Nightwish etc.


Well, personally I don't care for all of the lavish praise Opeth gets, but I don't see a point in simply seeking out reviews by specific reviewers to cancel out simply because I bought a CD due to one and hated it (Dragonhammer comes to mind as a band I explored due to Requiem's reviews that didn't agree with my ears at all). I'd write the review simply to state my own opinion on the matter, and make a reference in passing to why I don't identify with the success of said band.

I think there is a fine line between ripping on a band because you dislike their stuff and even picking up cheap copies of their material to do it eloquently, and specifically doing it because of another person doing reviews. It just seems to conflict with forming an individual opinion on an album rather than looking to what others have already said and basing your review on it.

Author:  estaticfear [ Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:22 pm ]
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http://metal-archives.com/review.php?id=172143

The only musical description here is "piano and falsetto". Three words.

The rest is just commercial-sellout-i'm-so-underground bitching. I thought reviews were meant to be centred on music, not ideology.

Also, he's complaining about a promo version of the release which has a completely different tracklist - his major issue with the EP is the fact that it contains two radio edits of the title track, which don't actually exist on the proper release.

Author:  Empyreal [ Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:07 pm ]
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estaticfear wrote:
http://metal-archives.com/review.php?id=172143

The only musical description here is "piano and falsetto". Three words.

The rest is just commercial-sellout-i'm-so-underground bitching. I thought reviews were meant to be centred on music, not ideology.

Also, he's complaining about a promo version of the release which has a completely different tracklist - his major issue with the EP is the fact that it contains two radio edits of the title track, which don't actually exist on the proper release.

I was actually going to bring that one up as well.

Author:  droneriot [ Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:15 pm ]
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What's with all the whining about requiem lately?

Author:  Empyreal [ Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:23 pm ]
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I actually don't mind that review, other than the rather important fact that he didn't even review the whole EP.

Author:  ~Guest 126069 [ Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:28 pm ]
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hells_unicorn wrote:
caspian wrote:
hells_unicorn wrote:
You're the first person to tell me that you've wasted money due to one or more of my reviews, I have a feeling that not everyone has your tastes, so I fail to see this sense of duty in any practical reality. It could be that people are just being polite and not sending me complaints (I get plenty regarding my Pantera and Mastodon reviews), but then again, I don't think this site is renowned for that level of courtesy.


I think people get more fired up about negative reviews of bands they love then vice versa. I can't recall ever getting annoyed about the many reviews that praise Opeth and Nightwish etc.


Well, personally I don't care for all of the lavish praise Opeth gets, but I don't see a point in simply seeking out reviews by specific reviewers to cancel out simply because I bought a CD due to one and hated it (Dragonhammer comes to mind as a band I explored due to Requiem's reviews that didn't agree with my ears at all). I'd write the review simply to state my own opinion on the matter, and make a reference in passing to why I don't identify with the success of said band.

I think there is a fine line between ripping on a band because you dislike their stuff and even picking up cheap copies of their material to do it eloquently, and specifically doing it because of another person doing reviews. It just seems to conflict with forming an individual opinion on an album rather than looking to what others have already said and basing your review on it.


I agree with you for the most part. I don't think people should write review for the simple purpose of being someone else's buying guide. However, I do feel that there are some album that are so unanimously praised that someone should do a bad review to at least provide a different view point. For example, even though I hate the album, I am considering picking up Awake by Dream Theater just so I can trash it.

Author:  Nightgaunt [ Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:24 pm ]
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Again, people should take the interpersonal discussion to some other channel. This thread is not the place for it.

Author:  hells_unicorn [ Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:53 pm ]
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Quote:
I agree with you for the most part. I don't think people should write review for the simple purpose of being someone else's buying guide. However, I do feel that there are some album that are so unanimously praised that someone should do a bad review to at least provide a different view point. For example, even though I hate the album, I am considering picking up Awake by Dream Theater just so I can trash it.


That is basically what I did with Mastodon's "Blood Mountain", although I had encountered one of their other albums by chance beforehand and had pretty much already made a determination about the band's sound. If an album receives that level of praise, I'd probably buy just to see what all the hype is about. I was more focused on reviewers going around and specifically trying to counter-balance each other on every album they review, it doesn't make sense to me.

Nightgaunt wrote:
Again, people should take the interpersonal discussion to some other channel. This thread is not the place for it.


Alright, I'll invite Requiem to PM me his response to my last post so that I don't clutter this up anymore.

Author:  Witcher [ Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:49 am ]
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Empyreal wrote:
estaticfear wrote:
http://metal-archives.com/review.php?id=172143

The only musical description here is "piano and falsetto". Three words.

The rest is just commercial-sellout-i'm-so-underground bitching. I thought reviews were meant to be centred on music, not ideology.
Also, he's complaining about a promo version of the release which has a completely different tracklist - his major issue with the EP is the fact that it contains two radio edits of the title track, which don't actually exist on the proper release.

I was actually going to bring that one up as well.


Report on that, that came today:
There is a review of an EP that has NOT been released yet!!!
The reviewer writes about a one-track promotional demo that has been delivered to webzine etc, but Lost in Space part one will be a 6 tracks EP and will be released only on November, the 16th...
DeNatale
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The reporter is absolutely correct.

Author:  oneyoudontknow [ Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:33 am ]
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again a review of a release that is not out and again a review which is not based upon the 'full' release.

Author:  Noktorn [ Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:18 pm ]
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http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=3577#802

Obviously unnecessary.

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