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| Author: | BastardHead [ Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:12 am ] |
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http://www.metal-archives.com/review.ph ... 815#103572 Holy vague and lame Batman! The actual description is just a sentence per instrument using some very vague terms like "furious" or "just how they should be". That shitty review wrote: Now I know that they aren't everyone's favorite band. They're one of those bands which one either loves or hates. I belong to the former group, so I suppose this review ought to be a bit biased. Nonetheless, this album deserves whatever praise I credit to it.
Into the toilet with this, I say. |
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| Author: | Napero [ Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:54 am ] |
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BastardHead wrote: http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=126815#103572
Holy vague and lame Batman! The actual description is just a sentence per instrument using some very vague terms like "furious" or "just how they should be". That shitty review wrote: Now I know that they aren't everyone's favorite band. They're one of those bands which one either loves or hates. I belong to the former group, so I suppose this review ought to be a bit biased. Nonetheless, this album deserves whatever praise I credit to it. Into the toilet with this, I say. What did we forget here? Any guesses? |
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| Author: | oneyoudontknow [ Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:08 am ] |
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Napero wrote: BastardHead wrote: http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=126815#103572 Holy vague and lame Batman! The actual description is just a sentence per instrument using some very vague terms like "furious" or "just how they should be". That shitty review wrote: Now I know that they aren't everyone's favorite band. They're one of those bands which one either loves or hates. I belong to the former group, so I suppose this review ought to be a bit biased. Nonetheless, this album deserves whatever praise I credit to it. Into the toilet with this, I say. What did we forget here? Any guesses? the mandatory bribery? |
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| Author: | morbert [ Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:41 am ] |
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http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=2394#43509 'Mushypeawarrior' Only describes the a-side of the single as if he does not know the b-sides. Very incomplete i.m.o. when you review only 1/3 of the material on a release. |
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| Author: | Erotetic [ Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:46 am ] |
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Napero wrote: BastardHead wrote: http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=126815#103572 Holy vague and lame Batman! The actual description is just a sentence per instrument using some very vague terms like "furious" or "just how they should be". That shitty review wrote: Now I know that they aren't everyone's favorite band. They're one of those bands which one either loves or hates. I belong to the former group, so I suppose this review ought to be a bit biased. Nonetheless, this album deserves whatever praise I credit to it. Into the toilet with this, I say. What did we forget here? Any guesses? lol. specification as to which user's review is being referred to. |
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| Author: | BastardHead [ Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:36 am ] |
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Erotetic wrote: Napero wrote: BastardHead wrote: http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=126815#103572 Holy vague and lame Batman! The actual description is just a sentence per instrument using some very vague terms like "furious" or "just how they should be". That shitty review wrote: Now I know that they aren't everyone's favorite band. They're one of those bands which one either loves or hates. I belong to the former group, so I suppose this review ought to be a bit biased. Nonetheless, this album deserves whatever praise I credit to it. Into the toilet with this, I say. What did we forget here? Any guesses? lol. specification as to which user's review is being referred to. Well the link actually goes specifically to the one I mentioned and there's an excerpt from it in my post
But if that's the issue, it's Thrashhead's review. If that's not the issue, I'll mail the check immediately. |
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| Author: | Napero [ Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:43 am ] |
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BastardHead wrote: Well the link actually goes specifically to the one I mentioned and there's an excerpt from it in my post
![]() But if that's the issue, it's Thrashhead's review. If that's not the issue, I'll mail the check immediately. Mentioning the author is necessary, or at least nice and useful, because otherwise another mod might open the same link afterwards and look for the nuked review; if it's gone, the link that was intended for the particular piece simply links to the top of the page. It saves us time if you mention the author, that's all. You may still mail the check if you wish. |
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| Author: | BastardHead [ Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:47 am ] |
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Napero wrote: BastardHead wrote: Well the link actually goes specifically to the one I mentioned and there's an excerpt from it in my post ![]() But if that's the issue, it's Thrashhead's review. If that's not the issue, I'll mail the check immediately. Mentioning the author is necessary, or at least nice and useful, because otherwise another mod might open the same link afterwards and look for the nuked review; if it's gone, the link that was intended for the particular piece simply links to the top of the page. It saves us time if you mention the author, that's all. You may still mail the check if you wish. Eh, we all fail occasionally. Same address as before, right? |
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| Author: | Magna_Thor [ Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:41 am ] |
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http://metal-archives.com/review.php?id=5827#96 user "Skyklad" Way too short, and only contains three sentences that describe the actual reviewed album. |
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| Author: | EntilZha [ Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:50 am ] |
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Read two posts above yours. |
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| Author: | Magna_Thor [ Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:27 am ] |
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EntilZha wrote: Read two posts above yours.
edited. thanks |
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| Author: | ScourgeOfDeath [ Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:24 am ] |
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User - BlackMetalCultRecords http://metal-archives.com/review.php?id=239750#198822 He owns the reord label, plays in the band and decided to review his own work.
No wonder it reads more like an ad for the band than an actual review. |
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| Author: | oneyoudontknow [ Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:49 am ] |
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ScourgeOfDeath wrote: User - BlackMetalCultRecords
http://metal-archives.com/review.php?id=239750#198822 He owns the reord label, plays in the band and decided to review his own work. ![]() No wonder it reads more like an ad for the band than an actual review. he is not the only example for a reviewer who runs a distro and writes on the music he/she releases. |
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| Author: | KerberosOfHades [ Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:18 pm ] |
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http://www.metal-archives.com/review.ph ... 721#217540 Review by carlnyc. The first paragraph is whining about how under-appreciated the release is; the second is a very brief history of doom and the third is only 2 sentences of musical description. With Perplexed_Sjel's much better review now up, is there any reason to keep it around? Its about on par with some from the first page of this thread. And didn't this guy whine a lot about how no-one was accepting his reviews and that he was an English post-graduate or some shit like that? Certainly doesn't look like it... |
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| Author: | EntilZha [ Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:14 am ] |
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http://www.metal-archives.com/review.ph ... 080#139511 Unseen_Terror's review of the new Keep of Kalessin single: Quote: Keep of Kalessin plays cheesy power metal - 20%
Written by Unseen_Terror on March 1st, 2010 Oh my, is this ever ridiculous. Let me preface this review by stating, I read all of the previous reviews beforehand, comparing this song to Korn, pop/rock, and St. Anger. All wildly false comparisons by fromer fanboys who either don't know what pop/rock or nu-metal (or power/traditional metal for that matter) actually sound like, or just feel such fury that their mind can only associate this with the most hated forms of music by the elitist underground. The first real comparison to come to mind? Tad Morose. Particularly on their 2003 effort "Modus Vivandi." Not at all from a quality standpoint, but I can't think of a closer stylistic comparison. The riffing is more than solid given the style they're aiming for, and the Egyptian-esque sound is well-implimented (if painfully cliché). The vocals in the verses and pre-chorus are more akin to modern hardcore shouts which are indeed a turn-off, but they lead into a serviceable (if unremarkable) chorus. But do all of these middle-of-the-road elements coalesce into a worthwhile and enjoyable song? Not really, no. This is a powerfully dull song, with very little in the way of memorability, which is somewhat odd given the clear intention of this tracks inception. This is their intended grasp at mainstream success, throwing their original fanbase for a loop in favor of a much more marketable style. And despite my somewhat disparaging words towards the previous reviewers, a backlash is not only expected, it's simply a given. This is a sell-out of the highest order, and every former fan of this band is justified in being upset. Even looking at this track from an unbiased standpoint (I never got into the band before, only knwoing that they played some form of black metal) it is less than mediocre, it's just bland. This review is based on two premises: 1. Everyone who gives this review 0% is a total fanboy. This is of course false, as only one of the reviews below his hints at being a fan of the band, all others say nothing of the kind, and some - myself, Tepes_the_Unweeping and Shadespawn, definitely aren't fans of the bands since all three have said so. One of two main premise of the review, not only breaking the rules by being a response to other reviews, but operating on false information/strawmen. 2. This song is power metal. This is false, it only takes one quick visit for any moderator to find out that this song is indeed not power metal, unless the definition of power metal has radically changed overnight. That's the second of two main premises, and it's factually incorrect. So, since none of what the review says is true I see no reason for it to be there. It's not exactly like he offers an opposing viewpoint either as he makes it pretty clear that he dislikes the single himself. |
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| Author: | ScourgeOfDeath [ Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:13 am ] |
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oneyoudontknow wrote: ScourgeOfDeath wrote: User - BlackMetalCultRecords http://metal-archives.com/review.php?id=239750#198822 He owns the reord label, plays in the band and decided to review his own work. ![]() No wonder it reads more like an ad for the band than an actual review. he is not the only example for a reviewer who runs a distro and writes on the music he/she releases. Thats not the issue at all. If you ll look at his profile, he clearly states that he plays in the band Xilentium. A musician reviewing his own work? I dont think that is aloud. |
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| Author: | Nightgaunt [ Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:51 am ] |
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There's no rule against it per se, actually, though 9/10 such reviews are rejected under the heading of 'discretion.' |
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| Author: | ScourgeOfDeath [ Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:24 am ] |
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Nightgaunt wrote: There's no rule against it per se, actually, though 9/10 such reviews are rejected under the heading of 'discretion.' .Fair enough. But I find the idea of the creator reviewing his own creation to be somewhat strange. Moreso because the same reviews are usually used by the readers to get others' opinions on bands and sometimes even base future purchases on them (I know that I have done so in the past). A lot of bands and distros even use reviews written here. Doesnt the said case go against the very spirit of reviewing? |
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| Author: | Zoldaten_ov_Zatan [ Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:32 pm ] |
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Not really, unless you demand absolute arcane objectivity. A person is perfectly capable of having a valid opinion on something they had a hand in creating. |
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| Author: | WebOfPiss [ Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:50 am ] |
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http://metal-archives.com/review.php?id=7209#85746 Shadespawn's review needs to go. His entire argument for giving it a 34 is due to the supposedly excessive feedback during the songs. In contrast, he gave Confederacy of Ruined Lives (another Eyehategod album) a 93 and it has a six minute song full of feedback. Pretty inconsistent. In any case, that In the Name of Suffering review contains very little musical description other than a long rant on the feedback, a few vague adjectives (slow, intense). There is barely any discussion of riffs, the vocals, the drumming, etc. He merely says they sometimes suck and moves on. That's one sentence for something resembling musical description. |
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| Author: | Erotetic [ Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:29 am ] |
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ScourgeOfDeath wrote: Fair enough. But I find the idea of the creator reviewing his own creation to be somewhat strange. Moreso because the same reviews are usually used by the readers to get others' opinions on bands and sometimes even base future purchases on them (I know that I have done so in the past). A lot of bands and distros even use reviews written here.
we're in a try-before-you-buy culture, so, really, only a sucker is parted from his money by a misleading album review (and 'hype men' certainly have no monopoly on misleading the reader, that's for sure!) |
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| Author: | Darkes7_ [ Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:23 pm ] |
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There's one review of Riverside "Second Life Syndrome" by The_Boss, which is... well, it looks nice and whatever, but it's the content that matters. Let me make it clear: I don't care that it's negative and I disagree with it, I'd be interested in seeing an actual good negative review of this album. http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=91368 First, he's seriously contradicting himself. In one paragraph, the music has plenty of atmosphere and relies too much on it, with not enough upbeat parts. In the next, it's too poppy. Hm? Second, he actually says the music itself is very good, the band members are at least "competent", song structures are well-thought, the vocals are a highlight - so, sorry, this hardly sounds like a 37% review to me, if all the key parts are at least good enough? Third and the most important - the whole review basically goes down to "it's boring, because it's NOT HEAVY ENOUGH!!!1", with him pointing out nothing wrong with the music itself at any point, claiming it's boring simply because it's too soft (anything from ambient to grindcore can be boring, it's the worst argument I can think of in a review). Sorry, but what the hell is this? Does he expect blastbeats and massive chugging from a progressive band with obvious classic progressive rock influences? This makes just as much sense as me writing reviews of underground black metal releases, and bashing them for not enough complexity and too simple songwriting... if I have no clue about a genre, I'm not interested in it at all and basically don't like it, what's the point of reviewing it in the first place other than showing one's own ignorance? Three reviewers seemed to have no problem with looking at "Out of Myself" - which is far calmer and is maybe 20% metal - in a reasonable way and rating it for what it is and not for being too soft - yet he couldn't in an album which is definitely a progressive metal album with softer moments. I'd be grateful for taking a look... Thanks in advance, D. |
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| Author: | Rust_In_Blood [ Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:58 pm ] |
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http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=61466 The album is actually great, and I agree with every point of this review, but it's too short and not descriptive. Also ckeck the other reviews from this user, 'cause all of them are too similar |
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| Author: | ~Guest 193166 [ Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:39 pm ] |
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Very true. Out of the 9 tracks on the album, he only mentions one of them. The review is also for a full-length album, so perhaps it should contain a little more musical description than given in the above piece. I wouldn't say his other reviews are that bad at all. They are slightly below-average (especially for M-A's standards) but they're still sufficient enough to keep in my honest opinion. |
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| Author: | Empyreal [ Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:39 pm ] |
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Darkes7_ wrote: There's one review of Riverside "Second Life Syndrome" by The_Boss, which is... well, it looks nice and whatever, but it's the content that matters. Let me make it clear: I don't care that it's negative and I disagree with it, I'd be interested in seeing an actual good negative review of this album.
http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=91368 -lambasting of The Boss- I'd be grateful for taking a look... Thanks in advance, D. Yeah, that review isn't very good...certainly not for the 37% score he gave it. Uh, yeah, not everything is going to be out-and-out crunchy heavy metal...as much as I'd like that...and some people really need to realize this fact. |
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| Author: | SharpAndSlender [ Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:02 am ] |
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http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=6954 Not very useful. Doesn't say much, plus he uses the phrase 'lead guitaring'. |
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| Author: | Darkes7_ [ Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:02 pm ] |
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Thanks for reaction, I was wondering if you'll share my opinion. And yes, the rather vague description of the album itself is another problem, I focused too much on the "true metal" thing. |
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| Author: | KerberosOfHades [ Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:17 am ] |
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http://www.metal-archives.com/review.ph ... 2613#49986 Review by Immolatus. Poorly written: "so here's different opinion and review.", "and those who don't keep this shit.", "I also want to state that this most likely doesn't work others than hardcore black metallers." Also doesn't capitalize band names. Minimal description; "necro, noisy, aggressive, dark, very harsh production, well executed vocals" is very very general and could apply to anything. It's also extremely short. |
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| Author: | Zoldaten_ov_Zatan [ Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:23 am ] |
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SharpAndSlender wrote: plus he uses the phrase 'lead guitaring'.
What? That phrase makes sense to me! PS: w00t for post #100! |
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| Author: | Perplexed_Sjel [ Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:58 am ] |
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Zoldaten_ov_Zatan wrote: SharpAndSlender wrote: plus he uses the phrase 'lead guitaring'. What? That phrase makes sense to me! Me too. |
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| Author: | hakarl [ Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:40 am ] |
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http://metal-archives.com/review.php?id=263452 Am I mistaken, or is it April 5th yet? Because from what I've gathered, this album hasn't been released yet. It could be just the time zones though. Seriously though, according to the m-a page, the release date for Darkthrone - Circle The Wagons is April 5th, 2010. The review is obviously based on a leaked version, and that's not allowed, is it? |
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| Author: | EntilZha [ Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:56 am ] |
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LP release was March 8th. Says so in the additional notes of the album, too. |
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| Author: | kimiwind [ Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:28 pm ] |
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http://metal-archives.com/review.php?id=17617#42793 Posted by http://metal-archives.com/userprofile.p ... ottercraft Reading the review through its too annoying, in every sentence he write CD almost 10 times ? http://metal-archives.com/review.php?id=17617 The other 2 reviews besides the first mentioned there formating sucks specialy the one by Windrider, its hard to read, very ugly though. |
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| Author: | OzzyApu [ Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:51 am ] |
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http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=33154#6606 Review by TheSiegeLoaded Complaints: hardly any description of the music beyond a mention of Korn for one song and Rammstein for another. Most of the goods are delivered in "awesome" and "amazing" or "boring" and "uncool." Hardly tells me jack, and I can only understand it because I've heard what earlier Fear Factory sounds like. You guys might want to take a look at that whole page and do some cleaning, but this one is a sure sight to clean from under the rug. |
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| Author: | DevilsWhorehouse [ Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:59 am ] |
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I'm unpleasantly surprised at the lack of quality reviews for DRI's Thrash Zone. http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=14352 |
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| Author: | Zoldaten_ov_Zatan [ Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:50 am ] |
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OzzyApu wrote: http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=33154#6606
Review by TheSiegeLoaded Complaints: hardly any description of the music beyond a mention of Korn for one song and Rammstein for another. Most of the goods are delivered in "awesome" and "amazing" or "boring" and "uncool." Hardly tells me jack, and I can only understand it because I've heard what earlier Fear Factory sounds like. You guys might want to take a look at that whole page and do some cleaning, but this one is a sure sight to clean from under the rug. What's the big deal? He says they sound like Korn... that's all I need to know. |
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| Author: | EntilZha [ Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:56 am ] |
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They don't sound like Korn, though. There's a big difference between teenage angst (Korn) and homosexual PMS (nu-Fear Factory). |
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| Author: | Vrede [ Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:08 am ] |
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http://www.metal-archives.com/review.ph ... 9521#83846 Too perfect and consistent, not enough spontaneity - 70% Written by NausikaDalazBlindaz on March 12th, 2010 The title says it all. |
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| Author: | EntilZha [ Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:17 am ] |
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Says what? |
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| Author: | Vrede [ Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:27 am ] |
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How can something be too perfect or too consistent? + Of course it's not spontaneous, it's a composition and not an improvisation. Basically this review criticizes the album for being too good and thought-out, which imo is ridiculous. |
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