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Author:  Napero [ Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:33 am ]
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Did you read the review, or just the title? It actually makes a lot of sense.

The review stays.
Author:  ~Guest 193166 [ Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:59 pm ]
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http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=6718#1632
http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=6718#10104

The review by VladTheImpaler can probably be A-bombed.

Vlad's review essentially has the bare minimum of musical description (if any at all). Basically all he does here is give his honest down-to-earth opinion about it without providing any substance towards the musical description itself.

The other review that we can do without is the one written by darkandfoul. While I do admit that it contains adamant and sincere/honest musical description in itself, it is just not in-depth/drawn out enough to maintain the quality that a full-length release should contain.
Author:  Derigin [ Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:02 pm ]
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Both removed.
Author:  ~Guest 193166 [ Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:54 pm ]
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http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=17818

The review written by SmellTheCarcass.

Basically, all he has done is describe the production and compare the demo to the full-length album. Again, bare minimal musical description.
Author:  Empyreal [ Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:26 pm ]
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http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=2026#117879

Will someone stop this kid from spewing out these thoughtless reviews? Terrible writing, terrible reasoning, no real information, immaturity bleeds from every pore. Not everything you dislike has to have a 0 or a 10...
Author:  EntilZha [ Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:33 pm ]
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I don't mind the shit-talking so much. What bothers me is that the "English major" doesn't bother showing even the slightest trace of proof-reading, delivering more spelling/punctuation/grammer/syntax errors than a Korean using the Google translator.
Author:  SharpAndSlender [ Sun Mar 14, 2010 2:19 pm ]
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ksevile wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=17818

The review written by SmellTheCarcass.

Basically, all he has done is describe the production and compare the demo to the full-length album. Again, bare minimal musical description.


To be fair, all the songs on the demo are repeated on the full-length, and given the fact that most people have probably heard the album and not the demo, if there's not major differences in playing or song construction there's not much to talk about except production.
Author:  KerberosOfHades [ Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:09 pm ]
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Empyreal wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=2026#117879

Will someone stop this kid from spewing out these thoughtless reviews? Terrible writing, terrible reasoning, no real information, immaturity bleeds from every pore. Not everything you dislike has to have a 0 or a 10...


Why is it that self-proclaimed English majors are always barely literate? You'd think they'd at least be able to use "your" and "you're" in the right places. Or "than" and "then". :brick:

Perhaps the mods should introduce a rule banning English majors from writing for this site?
Author:  Empyreal [ Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:24 pm ]
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I'm an English major.
Author:  Zoldaten_ov_Zatan [ Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:27 pm ]
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You know the reason for that is that nine times out of ten english majors are japanophiles who are pursuing the degree so they can teach english in japan someday.
Author:  KerberosOfHades [ Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:55 pm ]
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Empyreal wrote:
I'm an English major.


I shouldn't be surprised since your writing is very articulate. Still, its nice you don't rub your qualifications in people's faces. That's what bugs me about alexlovestheredchord, you see "English major" and get the feeling the writing should be good but it just isn't. Well I did anyway.

Anyway, stupid comment/proposal revoked. Just let me finish choking on my foot...
Author:  EntilZha [ Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:56 pm ]
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Whether you're a talented writer or not is not determined by what you major in.
Author:  hakarl [ Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:24 pm ]
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EntilZha wrote:
Whether you're a talented writer or not is not determined by what you major in.
It should, however, mean that you don't make mistakes like "then" instead of "than". I mean, anyone who voluntarily writes reviews of acceptable length for m-a can't be too lazy to proof-read his own review titles.
Author:  pandaemon [ Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:45 pm ]
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I want to make a review for Ikuinen Kaamos' "The Forlorn", so when i entered the page there was a review severely abused by grammar errors and typos. I also think all of you will agree that it is very non-descriptive and he doesn't really know what he's talking about.

Just a few of the highlights (and sadly it is extremely short):

MUSIC666 wrote:
on December 28th, 2009
..the death metal notes were existed here..
..the doom metal riffs were playing from while to while..
..then surly you cant say that its a..
..and the repetitive is not existed in this release..
..perfection was made from Finland.


and the BEST of the BEST:
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I felt that Iam hearing a cover track for Opeth, then I released that its Ikuinen Kaamos playing that amazing style


It is written by a guy that lives in the United States (surprisingly for me). At least his review isn't stolen from somewhere else! :lol:

I also find Bartman's review exaggeratedly small to be on the site, but i understand if your policy is to keep the old reviews.
Author:  caspian [ Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:50 am ]
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Ilwhyan wrote:
EntilZha wrote:
Whether you're a talented writer or not is not determined by what you major in.
It should, however, mean that you don't make mistakes like "then" instead of "than".


Yeah, who does stuff like this :lol:
Author:  Rild [ Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:16 pm ]
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http://www.metal-archives.com/review.ph ... 422#206189

First troll review for Belus. The writing is absolutely atrocious and riddled with spelling errors, and the review itself is completely moronic. The only coherent thought about the album this guy expresses is that "the guitar work sucks"

http://www.metal-archives.com/review.ph ... 541#206189

kepin's other review, for a band called Sår, is nearly just as bad. Tons of bloated, garbled sentences that would sound bullshitty even if he had a better command of the language.
Author:  Call_From_The_Tower [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:19 am ]
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Rild wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=258422#206189

First troll review for Belus. The writing is absolutely atrocious and riddled with spelling errors, and the review itself is completely moronic. The only coherent thought about the album this guy expresses is that "the guitar work sucks"

I have to agree with Rild here. That review for Belus was horrible. There's going to be plenty of negative reviews for this album in time (it's a Burzum album, it's always going to divide opinions), but that review was worthless in every sense. Ill-thought out, minimal description of music, criticisms often being levelled at the concept of the album, Varg himself or Burzum fans rather than the album itself, etc.. It just reeks of wanting to lower the score without putting any actual thought into the reasoning behind it.
Author:  Zoldaten_ov_Zatan [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:04 pm ]
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I like "Belus" but I can see the points that guy is making. If those things poison the album for him, then who's to say they don't? The review should stay.
Author:  failsafeman [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:30 pm ]
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Nothing wrong with his point, but plenty with his English. It's toast.
Author:  sisters_of_merciless [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 8:57 pm ]
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This kimiwind review of Metsatöll's Äio is a mess.

http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=261693

kimiwind's other reviews aren't a lot better, but in general the positive ones seem a little more coherent than the ones with lower scores, this being the one with the lowest...
Author:  kimiwind [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:07 pm ]
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sisters_of_merciless wrote:
This kimiwind review of Metsatöll's Äio is a mess.

http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=261693

kimiwind's other reviews aren't a lot better, but in general the positive ones seem a little more coherent than the ones with lower scores, this being the one with the lowest...

You didnt provide no arguments, you just said a mess ?
what is the bad side on it ? do you want me to give it 100% so it will be good? hm? i gave my honeste opinion about it and i think the formatting is good, i described the music and the grammar is fine.
Just as i thought, after snowgrave spread that post, everyone will just be willing to criticise my stuff for nothing.
How funny indeed....Instead go check the first posted review for Metsattol and take a look on it and compare it with mine ;)
Author:  iamntbatman [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:10 pm ]
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Ilwhyan wrote:
EntilZha wrote:
Whether you're a talented writer or not is not determined by what you major in.
It should, however, mean that you don't make mistakes like "then" instead of "than". I mean, anyone who voluntarily writes reviews of acceptable length for m-a can't be too lazy to proof-read his own review titles.


Jesus fuck that was a horrible review. Not only the glaring grammar issues but also just really awkward, stumbling sentence structures generally. The "don't buy this power metal album unless you like power metal" bit is just diarrhea icing on a shit cake.
Author:  sisters_of_merciless [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:34 pm ]
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kimiwind, I don't have any idea what the snowgrave thing is about, and I didn't do a survey of all the other Metsatöll reviews, which may also be bad.

But in your case, your writing is very, very bad. It makes no sense to claim that the "grammar is fine" when you don't appear to know the difference between a sentence and a paragraph. I'm sure you're trying very hard, it's clear that you're enthusiastic, and I don't have any gripe with your honesty, but if I wrote a review that badly in Estonian, or whatever your native language is, you'd laugh at it too.

Anyway, I'm not a mod, so if they want to cut you slack, that's their call.
Author:  Darth_Roxor [ Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:58 am ]
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http://metal-archives.com/review.php?id=842#117879

By alexlovestheredchord - this is like a giant ride through schizophrenia. 'Damn, the vocals suck... but there are brilliant leads! But the lyrics suck... but it has good melodies! But the originality sucks... but the soloes are mostly fine! Ah fuck, let's give it 0%'.
Author:  kimiwind [ Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:06 am ]
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sisters_of_merciless wrote:
But in your case, your writing is very, very bad. It makes no sense to claim that the "grammar is fine" when you don't appear to know the difference between a sentence and a paragraph.

Look, the problem is, i dont find no difference btw mine and the first posted for Aio, ofc ths style it might be difference, but the english in both reviews seems alike.Secondly, you say my writing in english is bad, are u a teacher????, ofc im not gonna give a fuck for what u said and i can remember one day, one american friend told me your english is very good comparing to american people there, which have some bad english regarding writing and stuff.I just recalled that.Another thing, many people read that review and no single one told me such this at all, mods accepted it just weeks ago and with 5 points, dont think u have knowledge and maturity as them right ?, and also that means it wasent here for 4 or 5 years ago when rules was much easier to get reviews up.Be reasonable! tell me what u dont understaint in my text right ? send me a pm, clarify with me this and i will see what i can do, but to say my writing in english is bad or most my reviews its not to be here definitely are not tolerated. ofc its ur opinion but not everyone think same as u! Leave others read it, if you like to.
Author:  hakarl [ Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:09 am ]
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alexlovestheredchord strikes back. Starting a sentence with "ok so the album" should be a grounds for immediate nuke.

And look at his fucking writing. I know I make stupid mistakes in my sentences, but when your writing looks like that, you know you're bad.

"The lyrics are ridiculously gutless as well in the album especially for “Living in victory”."
"There is some brilliant leadwork in the songs soon to be derailed, guess what you have some more awesome choruses!"
"“Louder then hell”" :durr:

English major???

Nuke this bullshit. It's illogical, badly written, doesn't have any proper musical description and clearly it's there just to annoy people.
Author:  Perplexed_Sjel [ Sat Mar 20, 2010 9:03 am ]
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kimiwind wrote:
sisters_of_merciless wrote:
This kimiwind review of Metsatöll's Äio is a mess.

http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=261693

kimiwind's other reviews aren't a lot better, but in general the positive ones seem a little more coherent than the ones with lower scores, this being the one with the lowest...

You didnt provide no arguments, you just said a mess ?


There are a few errors with it. On occasions you don't use apostrophes, don't begin sentences with capital letters and you're not very coherent at certain stages. As the other poster said, it's obvious English isn't your first language and whilst you've made a good at attempt at using it for a review, there are some sentences which could be phrased better, "Lately I’m having a serious insomnia", "even I was almost to go on “coma” during the listening", "This release is a failure for folk metal it’s a step back to middle ages music rather than just adding at least a provisional sigh to the genre".

A few pointers in the review feedback thread with a few adjustments and it will probably be fine.
Author:  Napero [ Sat Mar 20, 2010 9:50 am ]
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Roughly cleaned up to this point. I might have missed something, though.

I also did a bit of cleaning on the Mekong Delta page. I nuked reviews by Metalcreature, Conan_the_Worrier and Adalbertus. Just in case you're looking for them.
Author:  Darkes7_ [ Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:20 am ]
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Review of Pain of Salvation's "The Perfect Element I" by caspian...

http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=1657

First, musical description which is "minimum" at best (in fact, if I hadn't known the actual album, I would have zero idea what it sounds like after reading this). Second, rating the album low pretty much only for not enough technicality, which is a truly amazing idea in case of a band which despises all-technical progmetal. :roll: Third, Dream TheatRE in the second sentence while complaining how not progmetal enough the album is, which imo qualifies the review for burning in hell right away.

Btw, the review of Riverside "Second Life Syndrome" I had mentioned on the previous page remains? Everyone has agreed it's seriously bad...
Author:  Opus [ Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:08 pm ]
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TheOnlyMAD's 100% review of Andre Matos:

"Ok, I have to admit that 100% is a little bit too high and personally, I wouldn't rate anything 100% because perfection doesn't exist, but the other review that was posted on here makes the album sounds really bad and I think that it deserves a MUCH better overall rating. I'm sure that some people came on here, saw the other review and decided to avoid the album because of it, but no one should avoid it. Anyway, normally, I would probably give the album 90%."
http://www.metal-archives.com/review.php?id=165516

Isn't there a rule about not commenting the other reviews?
Author:  Zoldaten_ov_Zatan [ Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:30 pm ]
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Not exactly a hard and fast rule. I see nothing offensive in the passage you quoted. It's more about reviews that specifically point out another review and say "this guy is an idiot!" or something like that.
Author:  Empyreal [ Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:48 pm ]
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But there is a rule about not reviewing shit to raise the rating, which this guy admitted to doing.
Author:  Perplexed_Sjel [ Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:22 pm ]
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But there are plenty of reviews with ridiculously low ratings that are OBVIOUSLY written to down rate the album in general that stay, so ...
Author:  Darkes7_ [ Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:16 pm ]
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Any comments on the review I linked?
Author:  Empyreal [ Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:13 pm ]
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Perplexed_Sjel wrote:
But there are plenty of reviews with ridiculously low ratings that are OBVIOUSLY written to down rate the album in general that stay, so ...


But they don't implicitly state it, and who are you to judge why they write them anyway? Granted there are several really bad reviews in general from people who give low scores because they don't know any better, but still.
Author:  Perplexed_Sjel [ Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:27 pm ]
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Empyreal wrote:
Perplexed_Sjel wrote:
But there are plenty of reviews with ridiculously low ratings that are OBVIOUSLY written to down rate the album in general that stay, so ...


But they don't implicitly state it, and who are you to judge why they write them anyway? Granted there are several really bad reviews in general from people who give low scores because they don't know any better, but still.


Haha. How can you ask me who am I to judge? That's exactly what this section of the forum is designed for ... Judging!

I'd rather someone were honest about it either way.
Author:  sisters_of_merciless [ Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:59 pm ]
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OK, kimiwind, I looked you up, so I see you're about to start a college (high school?) program in English. I'd encourage you to take your reviews to your teacher and get some help with word-choice, sentence structure and grammar. I strongly suspect that by a year or two from now you'll laugh at what you wrote at this age!
Author:  kimiwind [ Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:55 pm ]
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sisters_of_merciless wrote:
OK, kimiwind, I looked you up, so I see you're about to start a college (high school?) program in English. I'd encourage you to take your reviews to your teacher and get some help with word-choice, sentence structure and grammar. I strongly suspect that by a year or two from now you'll laugh at what you wrote at this age!


High school ? your fucking kidding me...
Im 22 dear and currently i dont need to learn english, although im just gonna study communication english steam which require high level of english and i got to be accepted couple of weeks ago in that college, and i got certificate from IELTS as high grade, check again what is IELTS, im not gonna consider your opinion, and also many said the substance of my reviews are good, so whats the point of ur claiming, "they might be some errors here and there YES, but dont tell me everything suck, cause definitely makes no sense!! however thats ur life, say whatever u like, but certainly will change nothing. but hell ofc my writing in english need to be improved, and i always try to by practicing and asking around.
To clear this up this subject already shouldnt be discussed here, u better if u send me a pm and ask whatever u like. And also it is not late yet, if u have a complaint about anything regarding my reviews send me one, but dont post anymore here about how my writing in english is good or bad, and what i have to do and what i dont have to do, i believe ur mature enough to understand such this, so be sane.
Author:  sisters_of_merciless [ Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:13 pm ]
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Well, good luck with that "communication english steam" program.
Author:  hells_unicorn [ Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:53 pm ]
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Perplexed_Sjel wrote:
But there are plenty of reviews with ridiculously low ratings that are OBVIOUSLY written to down rate the album in general that stay, so ...


What makes them so obvious? Apart from the fact that the scores are low enough to make that happen. If you have an example of one you can provide that demonstrates this, PM it to me because I am genuinely curious about where you are getting this from.
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