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The Ardbeg Wizard
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:57 am 
 

I recently started to play guitar. Got a Marshall M10 amp. Now I'm looking for some pedals. Nothing too fancy. Mostly going to play 90s era type black metal. Recommendations for reverb/delay and distortion pedals are welcome! Thanks
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ShaolinLambKiller
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 1:24 pm 
 

the cheaper and more junky the better. I'd say for distortion a Rouge Distortion.
reverb/delay Boss made some pretty decent ones.

I've never been a huge pedal guy esp for those effects, usually I just add that after in production with my DAW
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Morn Of Solace
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:39 am 
 

The equipment thing it's often a mystery in the early 90's stuff, and it's not that surprising since the focus on gear and "right" studios was seen as a death metal thing and actively opposed: most bands tend to be really unspecific about it and it becomes often a guessing game, i'll give my two cents

With some bigger bands there are sometimes photos or documentaries where you can rapidly see some of their gear: for example Dissection often used common Boss pedals like the DS-2 and the MT-2, but we also have to account Dan Swano's magic touch in the studio and Jon's expensive Gibsons

I did a bit of research on the De Mysteriis sound and found that it was very likely the result of a Tubescreamer and an Arion Metal Master SMM-1 (which sounds very similar to the boss HM2) but in that case there is also involved a cranked up JCM800, the natural reverb of the Grieghallen and a good dose of Pytten magic. There are also around a good number of photos of Euronymous using an actual HM-2 together with a Boss SD-1... Again with a Les Paul Guitar, but for what i've seen he used both a Greco copy and a Gibson one

Having the time to tweak the settings helps a lot: last time i helped to set up a local BM band and we got a really good 90's like tone from a Marshall JCM900, it's own built in reverb and a Boss ML-2, which is 100% not what the old bands used

Overall i would go for an HM-2 (or an HM-2 like) and a Tubescreamer (which is an exceptionally useful pedal regardless of the genre) but if you have the way to try them you may find that even a cheap distortion pedal can do wonders, like Shaolin said!
I'm a bit more dubious about the amp tough: with a small amp like the M10 i'm not sure how the results could be

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The Ardbeg Wizard
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:32 am 
 

Morn Of Solace wrote:
The equipment thing it's often a mystery in the early 90's stuff, and it's not that surprising since the focus on gear and "right" studios was seen as a death metal thing and actively opposed: most bands tend to be really unspecific about it and it becomes often a guessing game, i'll give my two cents

With some bigger bands there are sometimes photos or documentaries where you can rapidly see some of their gear: for example Dissection often used common Boss pedals like the DS-2 and the MT-2, but we also have to account Dan Swano's magic touch in the studio and Jon's expensive Gibsons

I did a bit of research on the De Mysteriis sound and found that it was very likely the result of a Tubescreamer and an Arion Metal Master SMM-1 (which sounds very similar to the boss HM2) but in that case there is also involved a cranked up JCM800, the natural reverb of the Grieghallen and a good dose of Pytten magic. There are also around a good number of photos of Euronymous using an actual HM-2 together with a Boss SD-1... Again with a Les Paul Guitar, but for what i've seen he used both a Greco copy and a Gibson one

Having the time to tweak the settings helps a lot: last time i helped to set up a local BM band and we got a really good 90's like tone from a Marshall JCM900, it's own built in reverb and a Boss ML-2, which is 100% not what the old bands used

Overall i would go for an HM-2 (or an HM-2 like) and a Tubescreamer (which is an exceptionally useful pedal regardless of the genre) but if you have the way to try them you may find that even a cheap distortion pedal can do wonders, like Shaolin said!
I'm a bit more dubious about the amp tough: with a small amp like the M10 i'm not sure how the results could be


I'm definitely not looking to copy a sound per se (although I did go for the Les Paul and Marshall combo, haha), but I just know nothing about pedals. Thank you for the information, I appreciate it! The M10 is just for practice at the moment. Eventually I will invest in a more decent Marshall but for now it'll do.
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LithoJazzoSphere
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:19 pm 
 

This is the only pedal you need.


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Ilwhyan
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:14 am 
 

Morn Of Solace wrote:
a cranked up JCM800

What I've heard contests this in that, actually, it was run at very low volume. This would make sense, as this kind of amp produces a hissing, trebly sound at low volumes, whereas cranking it up fills out the bottom end of the sound a lot. I think the low volume tone would've been something Euronymous would've liked.

For perfectionists, it was also most likely a JMP 2203.
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