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Commisaur
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2022 12:09 pm 
 

I currently have a VT 40+ Vox amp and want to upgrade.

Most importantly of all I want the best possible amp for recording music using the recording method where you place a mic in front of the amp speaker.

Secondly I also want the amp to be gig worthy. Like loud enough and good enough to play shows.

I am totally ignorant on where I should even start in my search and don't know of any of the amp terminology.

Am I looking at having to get one of those huge amps that is 3 feet tall with a "control panel" attached to the top (not part of the amp, a separate device) that has a bunch of knobs and dials? If yes, how do musicians even lug these things around, especially if they don't have a pickup truck or van?

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ShaolinLambKiller
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 12:42 pm 
 

start with how much money you plan on spending otherwise this is a fruitless endless endevor.
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Commisaur
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:44 pm 
 

ShaolinLambKiller wrote:
start with how much money you plan on spending otherwise this is a fruitless endless endevor.


Well how much should expect to pay for a good amp?

I mean in a perfect world I'd pay $100, but I know that won't get me much. Will $1,000 get me a top of the line amp?

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ShaolinLambKiller
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 1:46 pm 
 

still depends on your budget there are good amps for $1,000 and some under but it's all going to be used.

brand new stuff can cost you up to 3-4k and that's just the head. Not including the cab. Those are separate elements.
if you go with a combo, those still can cost you up around 1k or more. I'm not the most knowledged of those that are out there brand new. You can probably find something good used though under the combo.
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Lord_Of_Diamonds
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 2:57 pm 
 

Anything with tubes in it is gonna be a whole lot more expensive, like a grand or more, so you'd probably want to go for something solid state if you're on a budget. Peavey had a few solid state models like the Valve King and the Transtube that usually go for pretty cheap and sound fine, despite what the Internet guitar community will tell you.

For the cabinet, I would recommend a Harley Benton "Vintage Vertical" 2x12. For about $350, you get a cabinet with two Celestion Vintage 30s in it that has no right to sound as good as it does for the money. The speakers are easily upgradable too.
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soul_schizm
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:27 pm 
 

My first suggestion would be to go to a few music stores and play what they have.

I think your last paragraph is describing a rack unit, where a guitarist will put together rack mounted hardware in the way they wish to more or less customize their sound. I did this once. It was fun to put the package together, with a tube preamp unit, a nice rack-mounted effects unit, and a power amp. A couple other pieces too, like a power conditioner and such. That's pretty complex though. You'll find yourself designing it from the ground up. Expect to put in a lot of time finding out the gear you want.

It sounds like you will be happier playing around with some different amps and finding one you like, then making the purchase. Some guys swear by the 100W (or above) tube heads and a 4x4 cab for playing gigs. I have one of those, and a 60W head too. Nothing wrong with that but it is indeed expensive, especially with tube models. I'd be very, very sure something like that is what sounds and feels good for YOU - not some musician endorsement - before dropping that kind of cash. Like others have said, we're talking about a couple grand for the head then maybe what? Another grand for the cab unit? That's quite an investment only to find that you are disappointed.

From what I'm hearing, I think you'll have better luck targeting a 2x12 cab combo unit, one that you've played at a music store or two, and don't be afraid to buy used. There's nothing at all wrong with that. The Marshall amp forums are full of guys looking for used vintage stuff.

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Lord_Of_Diamonds
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:01 pm 
 

This is a really detailed video about budget-friendly amps, with an emphasis on technical performance and reliability.
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Mango_Sauce
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 3:41 pm 
 

If you are "totally ignorant" on the topic of amps then I'm pretty sure you will have a better time recording an album with a virtual amp vst than trying to mic up a tube half stack. Also I have a 50 watt Vox modelling amp and that fucker is loud. It kept up with a drummer with the power knob on like 30% so yours is probably loud enough to gig. I would not record the metal sounds from it but I would play live with it.

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