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NecroFile
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:05 pm 
 

What aspect of playing the guitar do you have most trouble with?

Sweep picking?

Pinch harmonics?

Hybrid picking?

10 finger tapping?

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Prominence
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:52 pm 
 

Sweeping...

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invoked
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:58 pm 
 

String skipping stuff. Many guitarists I know can sweep, but do little else :lol:
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Ciraxos
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:34 pm 
 

Sweeping. That or tapping without the other strings buzzing.

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Solution7
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:38 pm 
 

10 finger tapping =O I'd sure imagine, Ive messed around with a bit of sweeping then doing 6 finger taps, its hard but sounds cool

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mattp
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:51 pm 
 

Sweeping takes almost no effort once you get the timing down.

I can't fingerpick for shit.
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Ciraxos
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:02 pm 
 

Anybody have any pointers for getting better at sweeping? I've tried some lower level Yngwie stuff but I still have trouble with that because he uses 5 strings. What should I start with?

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thejestersgate
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:31 pm 
 

Start with three strings here

http://www.guitar-dreams.com/guitarless ... wex-1.html

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Slagathjoor
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:38 pm 
 

mattp wrote:
Sweeping takes almost no effort once you get the timing down.

I can't fingerpick for shit.


Finger picking is easy for me. Sweeping is tough, so are pinch harmonics.

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Third_of_the_Storms
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:45 pm 
 

Fingerpicking is the most difficult for me because I rarely practice it.

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mattp
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:03 pm 
 

thejestersgate wrote:


I actually find it easier to practice 5 string sweeps, and then reduce to 3 strings.

Practice the basic minor/major shapes up and down, as slow as fuck but with perfect timing and technique, and after about 6 months you'll nail it no problem.
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Leviathus
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:32 pm 
 

Atonal Legato String-skipping sweep taps.....

i love trying to work out shit like that.

Flamenco is hard shit too, so is classical.

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~Guest 183305
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:16 pm 
 

Sweep and Tap at the same time. Now that is talent.

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juicebitch
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:07 pm 
 

From my personal observation, the problem that most guitarists face is not really sweeping or tapping or all those other techniques, but playing in time.

People can sweep like motherfuckers, but ask them to record to a click-track and they're all over the place.
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Leviathus
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:06 am 
 

thejuicebitch wrote:
From my personal observation, the problem that most guitarists face is not really sweeping or tapping or all those other techniques, but playing in time.

People can sweep like motherfuckers, but ask them to record to a click-track and they're all over the place.



i completely agree with this, learning the techniques isn't the hard part but actually being able to structure them in with rhythm and make them fit to the composition of the rest of the song takes the talent.

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NecroFile
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:23 am 
 

That's why I think the best way to learn guitar is in a jamming environment, it gets you used to playing in time with a bunch of other guys.

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blackpage
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:17 pm 
 

Leviathus wrote:
Flamenco

that's it.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:41 pm 
 

Writing good riffs. I've heard 99% of guitarists are actually allergic to it which explains why so few of them do it well.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:43 pm 
 

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Writing good riffs. I've heard 99% of guitarists are actually allergic to it which explains why so few of them do it well.

This. People need to listen to Iommi more!
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thejestersgate
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:43 pm 
 

mattp wrote:
thejestersgate wrote:


I actually find it easier to practice 5 string sweeps, and then reduce to 3 strings.

Practice the basic minor/major shapes up and down, as slow as fuck but with perfect timing and technique, and after about 6 months you'll nail it no problem.


I actually did just that for major, minor and diminished arpeggios. Once I could nail five I realized I couldn't play three string arpeggio's back to back with smooth transition from one to another so I kind of started over trying to get a steady speed up with three strings. It felt like I jumped ahead because I completely skipped four string. But really as long as your practicing arpeggio's you'll get it in time. I still have problems getting the finger rolls perfectly clean, any advice?

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petrichorus
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:24 pm 
 

sweep tapping and string skipping

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differer
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:29 am 
 

My biggest problem is my picking technique in general, I never did go through any rudimentary stuff for picking so it's always been a little fucked up. My right-hand posture isn't what it's supposed to be.

Oddly enough, I find things like sweeping and string skipping to be relatively easy... But the normal mid-tempo double-picking in steady time is REALLY hard for me. I can't keep my right thumb "locked".
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DemonoftheFall1143
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:50 pm 
 

My guitarist has just recently started learning 10 figure tapping, and I know he was having some trouble with it, and he's been playing for nearly 17 years. For me personally, its shredding. I would consider myself a solid rhythm guitarist(I'm a bassist though) because I have no problem with most things, even some quick little sweeps, but playing at high speeds doing a long run on the higher notes always gives me difficulty. I'm not really much of a soloist.

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DGYDP
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:59 pm 
 

blackpage wrote:
Leviathus wrote:
Flamenco

that's it.


I'd agree, most of the thing mentioned here can be done within a year of hard practice, but playing flamenco will takes years even for the most dedicated people. Talking about real flamenco of course, not just music that uses the notes and sound of it.
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Element_man
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 3:23 pm 
 

The ultra-wild shred tapping is tough, I always have trouble keeping the rest of my strings silent while I do 5-8 finger tap licks. However, I have the most trouble with ultra-fast alternate picking. Even if I sit at drill with a metronome for hours a day and go at it for weeks, I can never seem to get my speed and accuracy to come through, whereas I can do convincing sweeps and a few other little tricks.

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aChapo
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 4:02 pm 
 

Asking which technique is the hardest is like asking which food is the best. VERY VERY individual.
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NecroFile
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 6:34 pm 
 

I assumed it would be obvious I was asking for people's opinions on what is hardest. Of course it's subjective.

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Erdrickgr
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 6:47 pm 
 

Pinch harmonics are difficult for me because of how I hold the pick (against the side of my fingers rather than with the ends).

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mr6ix
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:19 am 
 

Any technique can be learned with time.

Make sure to use a metronome.
So many Guitarists have shit timing with the techniques they have.

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blackpage
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:11 pm 
 

DGYDP wrote:
blackpage wrote:
Leviathus wrote:
Flamenco

that's it.


I'd agree, most of the thing mentioned here can be done within a year of hard practice, but playing flamenco will takes years even for the most dedicated people. Talking about real flamenco of course, not just music that uses the notes and sound of it.

Yeah, pretty much any guitar technique that involves moving to spain for a decade and living with gypsies I'd consider difficult. But maybe I'm biased and subjective :lol:

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Nemodus
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:41 am 
 

Writing good riffs.

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Reaper_of_Souls
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:06 pm 
 

Nemodus wrote:
Writing good riffs.


+1

lots of guitarists can play their instrument really well but not many can write good original riffs

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Terminus
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:56 pm 
 

For me I'd say sweep picking. I've been working on it for over 5 years and I still can barely do it at all.

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juicebitch
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:54 pm 
 

Reaper_of_Souls wrote:
Nemodus wrote:
Writing good riffs.


+1

lots of guitarists can play their instrument really well but not many can write good original riffs


Hmm, I would classify playing ability and writing in separate categories, not both under technique.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:30 pm 
 

invoked wrote:
String skipping stuff. Many guitarists I know can sweep, but do little else :lol:

And the only chord they can sweep in is C Major or D Minor.... or Dechristianize. :lol:


I have trouble doing legatos. I have trouble getting all the notes in such a short amount of time.
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thejestersgate
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:35 pm 
 

the hardest thing techniquewise for me is playing 64th note runs in between slow solos with lots of bends.

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SHIBbYinc7
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:17 am 
 

Seriously the hardest part of playing a guitar is not any of those advanced techniques it is the little things... I know lots of kids who can shred.... terribly, sure it is fast but it is sloppy and with bad technique. The same goes for a great deal of players out there no matter what the technique is. Now before people start reading this thinking that I am some jackass know it all, I am really not that good. However I have had to pleasure of learning and playing with some incredibly talented people. So the hardest part of playing guitar is taking the time to practice the small things like hand balancing, posture, muscle memory for fretting notes, and accuracy above the tempting 8 finger tapping, sweeping and shredding. also by the way unless if you are playing at like 40-60 beats a minute 64th notes don't happen (on a guitar) unless if you are a god.

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Ciraxos
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:10 pm 
 

mr6ix wrote:
Any technique can be learned with time.

Make sure to use a metronome.
So many Guitarists have shit timing with the techniques they have.


I've never owned a metronome in my life and I can keep perfect time, do people really have trouble with staying in time?

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dimensionhatross
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:20 am 
 

mr6ix wrote:
Any technique can be learned with time.

Make sure to use a metronome.
So many Guitarists have shit timing with the techniques they have.


That's true. I don't have any problems in sweeping. I have not much practice in string skipping, but I don't find it hard at all.

I think the most difficult thing is fitting into the right time when playing. That's why I began playing with metronome when it's possible and I think that my playing is gradually improving.

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juicebitch
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 12:16 pm 
 

Ciraxos wrote:

I've never owned a metronome in my life and I can keep perfect time, do people really have trouble with staying in time?


How would you know you're not playing out of time without something to measure against?

Have you ever recorded or played live?
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