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Traver
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:15 pm 
 

Since I was thinking of having my next album printed as a physical release, I was wondering what format I should print the files in. I would like them to be the highest possible bitrate, but also want to preserve data like songname and numer.
So do any of you who have experience with printing/having printed CDs know what the best way to get a) good quality, b) preserve data like song names, and c) still lets people rip .mp3s from the CD if they so desire?

At the moment, the only thing I can think of is burning 320kbps .mp3s onto the CD, but that's far from lossless.

Any help?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:42 pm 
 

WAV would be good.
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kingnuuuur
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:45 pm 
 

There's also FLAC though I haven't worked with it yet.

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mattp
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:01 pm 
 

.wav audio, then have the tracklisting uploaded to CDDB.

Just like the pros.
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WindsOvCreation
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:10 pm 
 

The track names and all that good information aren't listed on the CD. They're generally loaded (by your CD-ripping software) from internet databases.
You should use the wave format (*.wav) and use the highest bit-depth you can record with (16-bit seems to be standard, but you can also use 24-bit and even 64-bit...the higher, the better). Definitely use WAVE, it's the industry standard for CD's.

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WindsOvCreation
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:14 pm 
 

Another thing to consider when recording is your sample rate. The higher the sample rate, the better your recording will sound (because more data is being sampled at a higher rate). 44100 Hz seems to be the standard, but I'd record in 48000 Hz ("DVD quality") or 96000 Hz ("Studio quality"). Even if you don't plan on pressing the CD at these bit-depths or sample-rates, it makes for much better sounding masters, which leave the possibility open for high-quality releases in the future (be it CD or vinyl).

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kingnuuuur
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:27 pm 
 

Winds0fCreation wrote:
Another thing to consider when recording is your sample rate. The higher the sample rate, the better your recording will sound (because more data is being sampled at a higher rate). 44100 Hz seems to be the standard, but I'd record in 48000 Hz ("DVD quality") or 96000 Hz ("Studio quality"). Even if you don't plan on pressing the CD at these bit-depths or sample-rates, it makes for much better sounding masters, which leave the possibility open for high-quality releases in the future (be it CD or vinyl).

I've read somewhere that it's a good idea to record at 24-bit/88.2kHz and do mixing/editing there, then sample down to 16-bit/44.1kHz for pressing. The argument was that it's because 88.2 is exactly twice the sample rate of 44.1 hence better for sampling down, or some shit like that.


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WindsOvCreation
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:42 pm 
 

that doesn't seem completely illogically, but I don't think down-converting from 96kHz to 44.1kHz would hurt the quality that badly.

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kingnuuuur
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:24 pm 
 

Oh and btw 96kHz is supposed to be for DVD audio, and 48kHz is for film audio. Not sure what 192kHz is for.

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Traver
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:36 pm 
 

Winds0fCreation wrote:
The track names and all that good information aren't listed on the CD. They're generally loaded (by your CD-ripping software) from internet databases.


I never realised that's how it worked. Guess you learn something new every day! Alright, thanks for the answers.

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WindsOvCreation
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:20 pm 
 

kingnuuuur wrote:
Oh and btw 96kHz is supposed to be for DVD audio, and 48kHz is for film audio. Not sure what 192kHz is for.

Blu-ray, maybe?

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