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LordStenhammar
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:27 am 
 

Body Count is great. I have the censored version of Cop Killer -album. Very catchy and humorous.
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godsonsafari
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:17 pm 
 

If you're into the screwtapes jute, you should listen to basically everything from OG Ron C, ESPECIALLY the Fuck Action mixtape series.
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Thumbman
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:48 pm 
 

I don't have a favourite rap album, but I'll talk about a few I really enjoy. Although obvious, Nas's Illmatic is incredible. Great flow, great lyrics and an awesome beat selection. It is here that he feels his most real. He went for a more mainstream direction on the subsequent albums, but this one is 100% genuine. Perhaps it is the greatest rap record of all time. I've really been digging The Left's Gasmask lately. Awesome beats inspired by old music (horns make a frequent appearance), great flow and to top it off it even has a nice sample from Nas's Illmatic. I also quite like Sabac Red's Sabacolypse - A Change Gon' Come. It features a diverse beat selection, lyrics that are both political and about the streets and some great guest spots. Immortal Technique was by far my favourite rapper for a year or two, but lately I've started to get sick of the ever-present politics and the occasional conspiracy theories. I still think he's good, but his lyrics really need diversity. I wish he'd do more storytelling tracks - "Dance with the Devil" and "You Never Know" are incredible and very emotionally potent. If he really wants to get his message across, he should probably have some songs not about politics so he doesn't appear to be shoving his message down people's throats and also stop with the illuminati/free masonry conspiracy stuff because I think it kind of makes people take him less seriously.

In general I've been getting kind of sick of rap lately. Usually the programmed drums are awful and a dude rapping over a beat that never changes for four minutes can get a tad tedious after a while. I also feel that for a lyric driven genre, the lyrics are repetitive and, well, usually suck. I'm sick of it either being about "criminal in the hood with drugs and guns" or "criminal in the club with bitches and Patrone". It's done to death and boring. I don't care about how many drugs you used to sell, I don't care about how much money and girls you get and how you're the greatest rapper ever, just like every other rapper to ever exist apparently. I do feel like the producer Clams Casino is doing something interesting with his beats, with his shoegazey, ambient free floating "cloud beats". It's too bad he's wasting them on shit rappers like Lil B and Soulja Boy.
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jute
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 6:30 pm 
 

godsonsafari wrote:
If you're into the screwtapes jute, you should listen to basically everything from OG Ron C, ESPECIALLY the Fuck Action mixtape series.


Thanks for the suggestion. I'll check that series out.

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shouvince
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 6:57 pm 
 

I'd listen to some rap occassionaly but it's difficult to pin point an album as such. I enjoy 'The Low End Theory' by A Tribe Called Quest. The somber vibes with those shoddy (ha!) basslines (beats) are alluring in a cool way. Legendary group.

Some have already mentioned Ice Cube. I have his Greatest Hits (2001) album and I dig that a lot.

These are the two memorable albums for me. The rest are singles scattered across different artists.

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DeathcoreDecimator
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:59 pm 
 

Lil B is definitely hipster as fuck, but I don't care. I respect what he's doing. He's one of the only rappers I know of that preaches positivity, doesn't write shit, and has fire ass beats all while consistently dropping mixtapes on a REGULAR basis. Dude's got way too many songs. Sure his shit is way dumbed down, but I find it to be good philosophizing music. I like playing his mixtapes and just deciphering the nonsense that he has to say. The dude's mind is very intriguing. "Regular" rap got boring as fuck to me except for people like Danny Brown and OJ Da Juiceman. I've also been getting into a bit of Homeboy Sandman, but usually super lyrical rappers are just as dull to me as Lil Wayne, Rick Ross, Meek Mill, French Montana, Nikki Minaj, etc. etc.

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dmforever1
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:49 pm 
 

see before i became a metalhead i was a bit of a rap fan my favorite album im gonna go with the classic and say dr dre's the chronic

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godsonsafari
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:55 pm 
 

hahaha I like Lil B for the same reasons DeathcoreDecimator does. And we both like OJ Da Juiceman. I don't think that's incidental. Neither are great rappers, but the beats man, THE BEATS. Part of me wishes metal bands would do something like mixtapes - drop a CD worth of free cover songs like every 9-12 weeks with a couple originals or throwaways and then get people geeked up for a full length record. Will never happen, but fun to dream sometimes.
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DeathcoreDecimator
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:38 pm 
 

It's weird, I love rap beats but I hate all EDM. It's probably due to where I was raised I guess. Either way, trap beats are the best thing to happen to rap since Tupac. Mixtapes are only possible because of the simplicity behind recording rap. It's insane how easy it is to become a rapper. Becoming a good rapper or at least a rapper that's refreshing and innovative is a different story.

What else I like about Lil B is he's essentially a genre of rap in himself with multiple sub-genres. It might be difficult to look at it like that, but if you've listened to enough of his mixtapes you begin to notice all of the certain styles he has. But it is really hard music to get into and it's easy to say "I'm not listening to this stupid swag bullshit" when in reality it has a lot more depth.

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TheMizwaOfMuzzyTah
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:44 pm 
 

Damn if the first two Jeru albums don't come close to being favorites.

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rawsewage
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:54 am 
 

Just-Ice-Kool and Deadly
Kool G Rap-Live and let Die
Onyx-bacdafukup

Thats about all my brother could get me to like.

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Erotetic
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:17 pm 
 

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Him and related artists (Necro, Non Phixion etc) are absolutely worth checking out for anyone here with any remote taste in hip-hop.


excluding all of Necro's later material...
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Erotetic
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:22 pm 
 

DeathcoreDecimator wrote:
he's the only one doing his own thing in the rap game and I respect that beyond belief.


how do you even find the time to listen to everything everyone in the rap game is doing? I can't even keep up with the few artists I like, never mind all the ones I've never heard.
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DeathcoreDecimator
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:36 pm 
 

True, you're right. Let me reform my statement. He's the only one I know of and that is entertaining enough to me that's doing his own thing in the rap game. I do, or at least did a few years ago, listen to a LOT of rap. Does that work for you my guy?

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HellishHound
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:49 pm 
 

Out of all the underground rap stuff I've listened to I have a couple favorites like:

Deltron 3030 - Deltron 3030
Dan the Automator is an amazing producer and I love all his projects. The zany sci-fi lyrics on this album are right up my alley. I'm into all kinds of zany horror/sci-fi/comedy the weirder the better and the lyrics really fit that bill, maybe not as much as my next entry though.

Dr. Octagon - Dr. Octagonecologyst
Again Dan the Automator is an impeccable producers and creates the perfect atmosphere for this album. Kool Keith came up with possibly one my favorite characters of all time with his Dr.Octagon person on this album. His lyrics match perfectly with that zany b-movie atmosphere I was talking about earlier.

Eyedea & Abilities - All albums
Abilities is pretty good producer but Michael Larsen aka Eyedeas's lyrics is what shine here, pure emotion and poetry.

Sage Francis - pretty much anything
Great, intelligent lyricist, good use better producers and better beats though.

I'll post again if I can think of more I used to listen to quite a few of those "underground/intelligent hip-hop artists"
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ObservationSlave
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:13 pm 
 

HellishHound wrote:
Sage Francis - pretty much anything
Great, intelligent lyricist, good use better producers and better beats though.


Intelligent lyricist?
Like "when I came out my mama I was zero"...?

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HellishHound
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:38 pm 
 

Ofcourse not every rhyme he writes is amazingly deep but the guy does have some very intelligent lyrics that work on a poetical level. Ofcourse all of this is my opinion
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ChurningtheMaelstrom
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:44 am 
 

My favorite would have to be a tie between Beastie Boys' "Licensed to Ill" and Wu-Tang Clan's "Enter the Wu...36 Chambers".

I love the Beastie's album for its samples and high-school--ish lyrical content, especially since I was in middle school when I first heard it. My brothers used to play it non-stop on my one brother's ridiculous sound system that would shake the whole house. My best friend and I would get very high and play that album all the time, it was like the soundtrack to a few years of my life, some of the greatest I've had.


The Wu-Tang album was also heard by me around the same time, and I liked it's basic, gritty sound...production was average and it relied mostly on the talent of the members to make a soundscape, which, if you've ever been to a ghetto in NYC (like I have), is very palpable. It just sounded like a direct view into a world of grit, despair, and hardship. Hard to put into words how important this album is.
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Necroticism174
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:12 am 
 

I wouldn't go so far as to say I have favourite albums, as it's not a genre I have lots of expertise in, but favourites include Big L, Public Enemy, Tech N9ne, Immortal Technique, Tupac, Wu-Tang, Jedi Mind Tricks,Ill Bill, Non-Phixion,DMX, and Diabolic. Just off the top of my head.
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shouvince
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:09 am 
 

ObservationSlave wrote:
HellishHound wrote:
Sage Francis - pretty much anything
Great, intelligent lyricist, good use better producers and better beats though.


Intelligent lyricist?
Like "when I came out my mama I was zero"...?


/snort

Yeah I'm not sure about that either. I used to listen to Sage Francis but never cited him in my earlier post. Some of his rhymes are good but at times he comes off as terribly pretentious.

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HellishHound
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:34 pm 
 

Damn, didn't expect to get that much flak for someone I don't even listen to anymore haha I mean I agree with you guys so no need to snort at me, he does come off as pretentious ass (but to be fair snorting makes you seem like that too lol) and yeah not all of his lyrics are great. But some were pretty awesome.
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shouvince
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:56 pm 
 

I think you are looking at an innocent "snort" to be something which is far more than what it is. Don't play the victim man. It wasn't meant to offend you, but it was a mere response to that particular lyric which the other guy posted. Geez. Did you even read what I wrote after that?

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HellishHound
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:17 pm 
 

Hey man I was joking too, hence the lol seriously man I gotta stop this now I don't want it to blow out of proportion. I wasn't actually playing the victim and I wasn't upset by what you said I knew it was innocent I thought you would realize I was joking too, sorry man.
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shouvince
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:24 pm 
 

Heh. It's ok. Just was reiterating that I didn't mind some Sage Francis at times :)

Think I'll listen to some outrageously popular 90s hiphop. Naughty by Nature seems like it will suit this time of day.

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HellishHound
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:33 pm 
 

Cool man, haha I gotta be more careful I don't wanna make enemies While I'm still a "metal newbie" lol. And Looking back I could have been more clear about it so that's completely my bad.

Anyway, if you guys haven't heard of it I'd recommend checking out T/E/L/E/X by Auburn. It's a collab group between Eliot Lipp and Vyle. The lyrics are so/so he tries to be post-modern in this stream of consciousness thing that ends up just being him spewing nonsense and name dropping fashion houses. The beats are the best thing about this album and are very different.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:32 pm 
 

Pharcyde's 'Labcabincalifornia'. If you haven't heard this, give it a listen.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:00 pm 
 

Wu Tang Clan - Enter the 36 Chambers. A completely essential rap album, a true classic in the rap game if there ever was one. Pretty much every damn song on this is killer. Even the skits on it are at least funny. All the rappers on it are on point. Indispensible.
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Gravediggaz - Niggamortis/6 Feet Deep. I guess this is considered "horrorcore". Really good stuff though, the production is tops and there are some really weird raps on here. Features the RZA.
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Bone Thugs-N-Harmony - E.1999 Eternal. A midwest rap classic. Pretty original stuff here, really dig the intricate wordplay and the mixture of rap and R&B style singing in the music. Nothing else they did was ever as good as this though.
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Das EFX - Dead Serious. Really good old school stuff. Probably the only Das Efx album you need to hear. Another album where every one of the songs on it is a banger. More really intricate wordplay with this group here.
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Redman - Whut? Thee Album. Just another good album and one of my favorites.
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Scarface - Mr. Scarface is Back. Favorite Scarface album. A good start for southern rap I'd say.
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TheMizwaOfMuzzyTah
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:28 pm 
 

After reconsideration, I gotta give my vote to Jeru the Damaja's The Sun Rises in the East

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PhilosophicalFrog
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:01 pm 
 

DAS EFX - SHIT IS TIGGITY-TIGHT.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:33 am 
 

To the people who suggested Aesop Rock, thank you. I listened to his last one and holy shit. I'll re-listen sober because I was hit over the head with incredibly dope flow, sweet and inventive beats, but most of all rhymes and wordplay so advanced that I literally had no idea what he was talking about most of the time.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:47 am 
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRiS0lELg3o

listen to that you stupid faggot.
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Tod_Im_Juni
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:13 am 
 

Dr. Dre - 2001 Although I dislike rap, I would listen to this album quite a lot.

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kapala
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:19 am 
 

Wu-Tang's 36 Chambers and Forever are classics. Those two will always be two of my favourite albums, of any genre. Raekwon's Only Built for Cuban Linx is another, as well as RZA's Birth of a Prince.
Some other favourites are Supertight and Ridin' Dirty by UGK, old E-40 like Federal and In a Major Way, The Diary & In a Major Way by Scarface.
I'm probably forgetting a few essentials, but these are definitely the albums that get played the most.

*edit* I knew I'd forget something. Above the Law "Black Mafia Life". Completely underrated. One of the better "g-funk" era albums.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:51 pm 
 

Only one album? It's not hard for me to pick out the single most important vinyl in my collection.

Check Your Head by the Beastie Boys.

I hassled the staff over at the local record store for 2-3 weeks, daily, ever since I got Pass the Mic on American import earlier in April.
That album got played twice. Once when I listened to it for the first time, then when I dubbed it on to a tape. That tape in turn, I listened to daily up until Ill Communication was released two years later.
Except for every other album by the Beastie Boys I really enjoyed these:

N.W.A. - Niggaz4Life
Digital Underground - Sons of the p
2 Live Crew - Live in Concert
Geto Boys - Uncut Dope
The Goats - Tricks of the Shade
Biz Markie - The Biz Never Sleeps
Stetsasonic...
Ah, there's too many to mention!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:01 pm 
 

MF DOOM- Operation Doomsday

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Oblivion_Gene
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:08 am 
 

"Gravediggaz - Niggamortis"

^Haha, excellent.

Can't say I have a favorite rap album, but I dig a few artists like Tupac, Tech N9ne, Notorious BIG, Bone Thugz, old Eminem, Hopsin, DMX, etc... Kendrick Lamar is pretty cool. Generally not that far removed from the mainstream.

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Hircine
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:30 pm 
 

Can I be boring and say "Straight Outta Compton"? Because it's that. To be honest though, I struggle to enjoy rap music in album length.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:46 pm 
 

Here's my favourite rap album :-D
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:36 pm 
 

De La Soul-Stakes is High or any J Dilla album.
Any Roots album
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:37 pm 
 

darkeningday wrote:
Aesop Rock's Skelethon and Illogic's Celestial Clockwork are unlikely to leave my playlist for the next decade.


fuck yeah Aesop > All
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