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ghroth
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:01 pm 
 

I'm not exaggerating, I think this song might be a Guitar Pro file. The "guitars" sound like the "realistic sound" you can apply to the MIDI.
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Ribos
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:07 pm 
 

I... actually kind of enjoy it. It's almost chiptune death metal. I hope it's just a demo version or a one-off, though, because I don't think I'd want a whole album sounding like this. I'm not going to be one of the guys who points to Rad a Trest or one of the other albums and say this or that is what the band "should" sound like; the band can do whatever the hell they want, stylistically speaking. I just don't want to get hyped for an LP that sounds like a demo recording.
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androdion
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:11 pm 
 

Have you even heard their demo material?! I mean, it sounds like an under-produced shitpile, and yet it's still miles away in quality of what this... thing... is! A whole album? My synapses virtually halted with only four fucking minutes! :grr:
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MutantClannfear
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:51 pm 
 

I honestly feel really bad about disliking this, because they're obviously a talented band and I imagine they're already going through enough with one of the members developing schizophrenia, but... god, this song really isn't good at all. :( I'd hate to be the band right now, if they're reading all this criticism it must be like a punch in the gut to try your hardest in the face of illness and still come up horribly short.

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Horus666
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:10 pm 
 

I really, really enjoyed this song. Super weird sound for sure, but I don't know... It just works for me.

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HamburgerBoy
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:12 pm 
 

Hahaha, I actually like this. In a more entertaining world, music like this would be the contemporary analogy to what sloppy South American black/thrash bands played with drum machines in the 80's. I would definitely listen to a full album of this, especially since the writing itself isn't so robotic.

EDIT: Listened to it twice now. The "La, la, la la-la la-la" part kills me. This is going to be amazing.

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Horus666
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:17 pm 
 

+1

The reactions are almost as amusing as the song itself :D

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flexodus
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:05 pm 
 

lol this is the infamous TOOH grind geeks fawn over? I guess they could make a decent Italian prog band...
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MutantClannfear
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:09 pm 
 

TheExodusAttack wrote:
lol this is the infamous TOOH grind geeks fawn over? I guess they could make a decent Italian prog band...

This is like introducing yourself to Metallica by hearing St. Anger. Do your ears a favor and try this:
Youtube: show

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:18 pm 
 

Also the essential Kali.

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wEEman33
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:13 pm 
 

Called it.

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joppek
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:47 am 
 

i'm hoping this is just a troll by the band to laugh at people's reactions...

the actual song isn't half bad, if it was just played/sung for real with proper sounds
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Dragunov
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:36 pm 
 

TheExodusAttack wrote:
lol this is the infamous TOOH grind geeks fawn over? I guess they could make a decent Italian prog band...


Which "grind geeks" have you heard talking about this? Because I don't think they're actually into grindcore at all...

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~Guest 292988
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:27 pm 
 

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dystopia4
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:37 pm 
 

Wow, so it really is that bad. Talk about a fall from grace. The worst part is the lack of harsh vocals. Everything's pretty lame, though.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:09 pm 
 

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iamntbatman
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:17 pm 
 

I feel the need to reiterate earlier suspicions/guesses that this is just the Guitar Pro file for the song with demo vocals recorded. For those unfamiliar with the program, it's basically a tool that helps you write out music/guitar tabs but the actual sound output is essentially MIDI type sounds and/or really shitty synths.

Here's another song someone did in Guitar Pro:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHZwBXO7wHY

So yeah, obviously it sounds retarded and is not a finished product unless the band is seriously insane or trolling.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:22 pm 
 

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slavonic777
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:29 am 
 

I dont know guys, but I have been at their last show and the overall sound was very much in the style of that single. You can see/listen it yourself: http://youtu.be/0P-EImhBF9s

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Horus666
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:09 am 
 

The fact that people want it to be what they expected so bad, that they would delude themselves into thinking that it's a demo, cracks me the fuck up. :D :D :D

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Ribos
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:13 am 
 

The released track sounds like it was done in guitarpro. The live set does not. It may be stylistically similar (which I'm okay with, the live set seemed fine), but the fact remains that the "studio track" doesn't sound like there were any real instruments.
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GTog
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 9:28 am 
 

With the last lineup, or are Wokis and Freedom back in? Wokis just got around to releasing a full length as Duobetic Homunkulus, and it's some weird shit. But not bad.

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androdion
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 10:34 am 
 

GTog wrote:
With the last lineup, or are Wokis and Freedom back in? Wokis just got around to releasing a full length as Duobetic Homunkulus, and it's some weird shit. But not bad.

I've noticed that as well. Do you have a link for the album, or at least some songs? I'm rather curious about it.
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GTog
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:38 pm 
 

MySpace still has the old stuff. Might get a preview on Bandcamp.

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androdion
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 4:49 pm 
 

Indeed, some songs can be heard on their usual pages. This sounds even wackier than !T.O.O.H.!, more along the lines of Melancholy Pessimism's wackiness. I'll have to dig into this.
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Nanoscourge
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:34 pm 
 

Welp, the album has been put up for download by the band here. My computer's acting odd so I can't download/listen to it, but apparently it's a "DIY electro concept" album. No CD release is planned by the band.

Album cover:
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MutantClannfear
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:38 pm 
 

I'm listening to it now, haven't gotten past "Právo" yet which we've obviously already heard but even that's sounding quite a bit better so far. I hate to be that guy who's like "JUST BE OPEN-MINDED AND LISTEN TO IT UNTIL IT CLICKS", because that guy always fucking sucks, but I think this seriously might just have needed to marinate for a while for me. We'll see how the rest of the album holds up.

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slavonic777
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:40 pm 
 

...and it has the same guitar pro-like sound as in the earlier released single :)

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MutantClannfear
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:44 pm 
 

Yeah, tracks 2 and 3 still sound like the same basic stuff. The second one in particular sounds more like a hazy synth-based take on a brutal death metal song. It's actually surprisingly refreshing, I've been burnt out on metal to a certain extent lately and I really appreciate the idea to make an album of what's basically metal but comprised of an entirely different set of sonic textures. Interesting, to say the very least.

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Ribos
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:32 pm 
 

Man, this version of Pravo sounds way more well-developed. It's not just me with shit-tinted glasses on the past, right?

I'm actually kind of digging this. It's definitely wacky as fuck, and bound to piss some folks off, but there's definitely something here that I enjoy. Gotta love those Slavic harmonies, too. I just wish I could read/understand Czech...
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slavonic777
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:40 pm 
 

Ribos wrote:
I just wish I could read/understand Czech...

Then you would probably have a good laugh upon perverse as hell lyrics of this album

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androdion
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:41 pm 
 

To be honest I was actually expecting something weirder. This sounds almost like an alt rock version of the band with blast beats and a trippy filter. It's not outright atrocious but it is indeed a strange listen. It sounds only marginally like the band's early stuff though, and as I said it's much more "rock out" than bluntly brutal. With that being said I'm not feeling any love for this, and the vocals are pretty much cringeworthy.

If some of you dig this then you should probably listen to Duobetic Homunkulus, who now have the full album available to stream at their Bandcamp page.
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Brutality_Junkie
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:52 pm 
 

I...I can't believe it. !T.O.O.H.! records a new album and IT SUCKS?!

No. No, the rest of the songs have to be better...they just have to be.

*checks out the rest of the album*

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LoDebar
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:59 pm 
 

I like the new album for what it is. Whatever it is. Somebody called it outsider death metal, that's an interesting way of framing it. But it does get a little repetitive, they're using the same sound asset and tempo way too much.

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wEEman33
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:08 pm 
 

With a different vocal style and better production there might be some decent songs in here. The composition of the music is at least interesting.

But goddamn those are some shitty vocals and some crappy production.

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Deathstalker1985
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:12 pm 
 

its not like !T.O.O.H.! ever had good vocals to begin with, they have always been terrible.

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Crick
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:18 am 
 

I firmly disagree.
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shouvince
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:30 am 
 

Boy, this is indeed a strange listen. 4 tracks into the album at the moment and I'm not sure how I feel about this. It's got some fun parts but nothing praise worthy yet.

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Wilytank
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:42 am 
 

New album is just anus. A sad state for Winnie the !T.O.O.H.!
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