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Sarneas
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Joined: Sun May 12, 2013 8:51 pm
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Location: Argentina
PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:57 pm 
 

A moderator has not accepted a band I submitted, a solo project in fact, belonging to Nokturnal Mortum's drummer Munruthel. It's Silentium, his first Dark Ambient project. The rules of the MA says that a metal band member's side projects are to be included, even if they don't make strictly metal. Nevertheless it's not like it's something completely different from what this page holds: it has an aesthetical and conceptual connection with the black metal culture, so i don't see why it has been denied. Before this confusion comes up again, Munruthel is his later solo project, what i have submitted is Silentium.

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Breathedit
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Joined: Sat Jun 08, 2013 9:06 pm
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 9:09 pm 
 

Can Lidande (US) be removed off Black list? It was on MA for 4 years straight until a feud came up with some online releases and then some drama/sarcasm but its been awhile ...and I thought since most of there music is considered depressive black metal and there are cds and picture....

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Lidande/ ... ion=stream

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Derigin
The Mountain Man

Joined: Sun Jan 01, 2006 6:25 am
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Location: Canada
PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:13 am 
 

Oh, you're back.

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Nightgaunt
I'll Swallow Your Soul

Joined: Sat Mar 06, 2004 9:50 pm
Posts: 2922
PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:29 am 
 

The answer is "No", Manny. Barring renascence of the project as a productive entity, it will perpetually remain "No", even if you live to be 100 and spend all the long years of your pointless life trying millions of different variations on your strategy of retconning your story about the 'truth' behind Lidande to the point where MA would accept it.

I will spare us all another story about how it's all your parents' fault by showing you the door.
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Fulgurius
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Joined: Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:51 am
Posts: 1066
PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 3:25 am 
 

Sarneas wrote:
A moderator has not accepted a band I submitted, a solo project in fact, belonging to Nokturnal Mortum's drummer Munruthel. It's Silentium, his first Dark Ambient project. The rules of the MA says that a metal band member's side projects are to be included, even if they don't make strictly metal. Nevertheless it's not like it's something completely different from what this page holds: it has an aesthetical and conceptual connection with the black metal culture, so i don't see why it has been denied. Before this confusion comes up again, Munruthel is his later solo project, what i have submitted is Silentium.

Read the rules more carefully. If the official bio is true, Silentium was started before Nokturnal Mortum, so it's not a side project. And even for a side project it's not noteworthy enough for inclusion. Munruthel is here only because some of his albums are metal.

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artery
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Joined: Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:10 am
Posts: 18
Location: Germany
PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:15 am 
 

Myfearone from Germany
here is the song "Not My Fault" from Myfearone
http://tinypic.com/r/2mhtmy0/5

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OKUS
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Joined: Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:45 pm
Posts: 5
PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:58 pm 
 

Trying to add my band Okus and i am being told we are blacklisted . I have read through all the rules etc so dont know why its telling me this . Cheers . Greg .

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Azmodes
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Joined: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:44 am
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Location: Ob der Enns, Austria
PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:06 pm 
 

Apparently they are unacceptable (i.e. punk-based) crust/grind.
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OKUS
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Joined: Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:45 pm
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:23 pm 
 

Are you serious ? HA HA ! Its also very metal but anyway ...

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Azmodes
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Location: Ob der Enns, Austria
PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:26 pm 
 

I guess I am serious, but I've never listened to them, another mod blacklisted them.

If you disagree, you can link to song samples here and we'll take (another) look at it.
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Odins_Erbe
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Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:29 am
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Location: Germany
PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 5:12 pm 
 

Azmode told me i should post again in this Topic.
I hope some mods here with DSBM Knowlegde can listen to the Samples and rate this band as Depressive Black Metal. because some Mod's say, this is not metal because of the riffs. Because they are not metal enough. But like i said, this is no typical Metal style. Please check what depressive Black Metal is.


Zyklus der Verzweiflung
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55dvZbBAtmA


And i uploaded a Sample from the Other songs of the Demo Tape:
http://www.mediafire.com/?lq6whduf3v8vxsp

Pics of the Demo:
http://z-d-v.de.vu/ZDV1.jpg


Maybe this helps:
Other typical Depressive Black Metal bands (which are also on MA and also have no typical Metal riffs):
Herbstregen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=967RRlWo2H8
Aegrotationis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC9_M3_Yoko
Happy Ending: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FAgXKbB7Ts


Best Regards


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GucumatzKalam
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Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:16 am
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Location: Mexico
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:22 am 
 

I'm here for the band "Omacatl"

The band was rejected for have not a metal song, this song is from the last album:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvLte6-AUWk

here the physical format picture:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... e=1&ref=nf


here the bandcamp

http://thesiteofandroid29a.bandcamp.com/

Now is possible? Thanks :)

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Fulgurius
Metalhead

Joined: Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:51 am
Posts: 1066
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:41 am 
 

GucumatzKalam wrote:
I'm here for the band "Omacatl"

The band was rejected for have not a metal song, this song is from the last album:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvLte6-AUWk

here the physical format picture:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... e=1&ref=nf


here the bandcamp

http://thesiteofandroid29a.bandcamp.com/

Now is possible? Thanks :)

Metal song? The band needs metal album in order to be accepted, not just one song. Can't say if that song is even metal because the opening part is metalless, and I've turned it off when those awful vocals started. Maybe some other mod would be more patient to listen to that crap, but keep in mind that one song is still not enough.

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deepdreamsofhell
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Joined: Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:27 am
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Location: Italy
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:52 am 
 

I requested the add for VESANUS. It's an italian one man band with a demo cdr called "In Tenebras Sumus Beati" of 2010...there are also proof of publicity and promotion on their Myspace. Demo was released via self-production so there aren't label that promoted the cdr but it's 100% REAL. You can contact the mastermind of the project on FB (on his private profile) for check it! https://www.facebook.com/vesanus?fref=ts

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GucumatzKalam
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Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:16 am
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Location: Mexico
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:26 pm 
 

I published here the bandcamp for more songs.

also have a physical realese: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... nt_count=1


Here the flyer by the label http://chivonegroprod.blogspot.mx/

Another flyer: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... permPage=1

The label only works with metal bands, (Satanic Forest, Moloch, Ocultus Sathanas)

The label: http://chivonegroprod.blogspot.mx/

Here a METAL song:

http://thesiteofandroid29a.bandcamp.com ... a-tierra-2

Here another METAL song:

http://thesiteofandroid29a.bandcamp.com/track/esp-ritus


Here the complete album: http://thesiteofandroid29a.bandcamp.com/

Thanks :)

NOTE: The voice is "awful" because is "black metal". There's Metal-archives "black metal" bands when they really are "noise" or bands with "lo-fi" style, this band have more melodies, only the voice is "awful" for the black metal, if you want, listen the another song, too is black metal :) Greetings

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OpsiusCato
Mexican Metal Inquisition

Joined: Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:42 am
Posts: 3006
Location: Mexico
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:41 pm 
 

GucumatzKalam wrote:
NOTE: The voice is "awful" because is "black metal".


May I ask you what are you trying to imply?
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Opsius is Metal as fuck.

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Rob1
Metalhead

Joined: Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:50 am
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Location: Netherlands
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:57 pm 
 

He probably means that since most Black Metal bands only scream and do not really sing it is not to his liking (not to mine either but that is not the point here!) and thus awful.
As soon as a band makes music like a Black Metal band but with vocals like Eric A.K. or Warrel Dane they will not be typecasted as Black Metal so in a way he might be right.......! ;)

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OpsiusCato
Mexican Metal Inquisition

Joined: Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:42 am
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Location: Mexico
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:08 pm 
 

Thank you for giving me your interpretation of his post. Now I'll just keep on waiting for his answer.
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Opsius is Metal as fuck.

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Fulgurius
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Joined: Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:51 am
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:16 pm 
 

Nah, he was referring to my post where I said that vocals are awful, while he thinks otherwise (and it's probably his band) arguing that it's such because it's black metal. But c'mon, I listen to a lot of black metal, and I can tell you that these vocals are just terrible, poorly recorded and performed. The music isn't much better. Actually, I like that intro more than the part that was supposed to be metal.

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OpsiusCato
Mexican Metal Inquisition

Joined: Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:42 am
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Location: Mexico
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:45 pm 
 

Also, Rob1, do not post your opinion on stuff without even caring to listen the actual music. Then again, even if you did listen to something, do not post your opinion here, since it may be misleading to other users, and could be considered mini-modding, which is not allowed. Thank you.
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Uncolored, on being a law-abiding citizen wrote:
I'm going to an illegal AnarchoPunkfest in an abandoned disco near a beach. If I'm not here tomorrow look for me in jail.
PhiloFrog, making accurate statements as usual, wrote:
Opsius is Metal as fuck.

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GucumatzKalam
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Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:16 am
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Location: Mexico
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:34 pm 
 

Yes, is for the post of "Fulgurius" is only my opinion. The voice yes, is awful, hehe, (no, is not my band)
for example, this band is more "noise" no black metal...

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Mhnunrrn/3540308689

Other bands recorded with mobile phones and are cult bands. I do not understand what is the purpose to discuss for the voice.

Thanks!

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odium
Metal newbie

Joined: Fri Sep 17, 2004 3:32 pm
Posts: 205
Location: Lithuania
PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:18 am 
 

Polish gothic metal band Diavolopera is black listed. I can't find the info why here, but maybe the situation has changed. Last year they have released and album "Preludium". It is possible to download it from their bandcamp page (http://diavolopera.bandcamp.com), but in their FB profile they wright that it is also possible to buy a physical digi-pack copy of this release during their live shows.

What concerns their style, I assume them playing gothic metal with electro touches, similar to what Bloodflowerz played in the beginning.

May I resubmit the band?

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Alhadis
Madder Max

Joined: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:35 am
Posts: 4014
Location: Australia
PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:09 am 
 

odium wrote:
What concerns their style, I assume them playing gothic metal with electro touches

Eh... you mean you haven't listened to them yourself? ;) If you did, you might know the band is more gothic rock than metal.

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odium
Metal newbie

Joined: Fri Sep 17, 2004 3:32 pm
Posts: 205
Location: Lithuania
PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:17 am 
 

Alhadis wrote:
odium wrote:
What concerns their style, I assume them playing gothic metal with electro touches

Eh... you mean you haven't listened to them yourself? ;) If you did, you might know the band is more gothic rock than metal.

Of course I did. Being a huge fan of old-school gothic rock, I would consider Diavolopera much more into bands like Evanesence than into gothic rock stuff. Anyway, thanks for your answer/opinion.

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Cursarion
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Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2005 6:56 am
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Location: Finland
PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:50 am 
 

Evanescence is not in The Metal Archives.
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deepdreamsofhell
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Location: Italy
PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:04 pm 
 

For the Vesanus, one man black metal band:

Where is this demo available? Any webshop, distro, label, or a webpage from the band? And other info about how many were made, where they were sold?"

Demo is still available via MySpace (you can see aldo promotion done by the band with the banner of the release in 2010 and new updates [in Italian and english] just some days ago. http://www.myspace.com/vesanus696

Also from Vesanus himself it's possible buy the demo (and I posted his Fb account some posts ago)

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TheLoneForest
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Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:16 pm
Posts: 760
Location: Quebec
PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:19 pm 
 

What about Dreariness from Italy. Apparently, it has been blacklisted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoVW28tVRGs

Seems legit

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TheLoneForest
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Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:16 pm
Posts: 760
Location: Quebec
PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:20 pm 
 

RonimuZ wrote:
Evanescence is not in The Metal Archives.


Yeah...they are in no way shape or form metal...

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GucumatzKalam
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Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:16 am
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Location: Mexico
PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:29 pm 
 

Hello!!!

Why the band "Omacatl" are blacklisted ?

this all information about the band:

I published here the bandcamp for more songs.

also have a physical realese: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... nt_count=1


Here the flyer by the label http://chivonegroprod.blogspot.mx/

Another flyer: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... permPage=1

The label only works with metal bands, (Satanic Forest, Moloch, Ocultus Sathanas)

The label: http://chivonegroprod.blogspot.mx/

Here a METAL song:

http://thesiteofandroid29a.bandcamp.com ... a-tierra-2

Here another METAL song:

http://thesiteofandroid29a.bandcamp.com/track/esp-ritus


Here the complete album: http://thesiteofandroid29a.bandcamp.com/

Thanks

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OpsiusCato
Mexican Metal Inquisition

Joined: Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:42 am
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Location: Mexico
PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:57 pm 
 

TheLoneForest wrote:
...Dreariness from Italy...

Unacceptable blackgaze/depressive rock.
GucumatzKalam wrote:
..."Omacatl"... Here the complete album: http://thesiteofandroid29a.bandcamp.com/

Three songs is not a "complete album". Also, how about having a bit of patience?
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Opsius is Metal as fuck.

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GucumatzKalam
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Location: Mexico
PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:21 pm 
 

Do you want the complete album? And yes my friend, but no one came to answer hehe

Thanks :)

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OpsiusCato
Mexican Metal Inquisition

Joined: Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:42 am
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Location: Mexico
PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:44 pm 
 

Yes, please. Add them to your band's bandcamp. Or tell your bandmate to do so.
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Uncolored, on being a law-abiding citizen wrote:
I'm going to an illegal AnarchoPunkfest in an abandoned disco near a beach. If I'm not here tomorrow look for me in jail.
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Opsius is Metal as fuck.

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GucumatzKalam
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Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:16 am
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Location: Mexico
PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:10 pm 
 

A sample is valid?

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OpsiusCato
Mexican Metal Inquisition

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Location: Mexico
PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:14 pm 
 

Nope. In this case we're gonna need full tracks. All of the songs in their entirety.
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Uncolored, on being a law-abiding citizen wrote:
I'm going to an illegal AnarchoPunkfest in an abandoned disco near a beach. If I'm not here tomorrow look for me in jail.
PhiloFrog, making accurate statements as usual, wrote:
Opsius is Metal as fuck.

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Malediktum
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Joined: Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:29 pm
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:21 am 
 

The band called "Svartstorm" was rejected as "Not a metal band" Why "not a metal"? Listen here: http://vk.com/svartstormband

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deepdreamsofhell
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Joined: Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:27 am
Posts: 6
Location: Italy
PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:53 am 
 

deepdreamsofhell wrote:
For the Vesanus, one man black metal band:

Where is this demo available? Any webshop, distro, label, or a webpage from the band? And other info about how many were made, where they were sold?"

Demo is still available via MySpace (you can see aldo promotion done by the band with the banner of the release in 2010 and new updates [in Italian and english] just some days ago. http://www.myspace.com/vesanus696

Also from Vesanus himself it's possible buy the demo (and I posted his Fb account some posts ago)


also Magma Pure Underground Distribution (a label/distro) have this demo https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =3&theater

on myspace there are two songs to understand that is 100% metal c'mon..

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Fulgurius
Metalhead

Joined: Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:51 am
Posts: 1066
PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:31 am 
 

Malediktum wrote:
The band called "Svartstorm" was rejected as "Not a metal band" Why "not a metal"? Listen here: http://vk.com/svartstormband

When was it rejected? Another user submitted it in April when the release wasn't out yet, that's the only case of this band's rejection that I could find in deletion history.

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Gravelander89
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Joined: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:36 am
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Location: Germany
PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:10 pm 
 

Quote:
Sorry Gravelander89, Encyclopaedia Metallum was forced to reject your submission for the band Minblod (United States), for the following reason:

Where can we hear this music?

If you want to object to this rejection, please do so in the appropriate thread in the Suggestions and Complaints sub-forum. Do not e-mail moderators directly about this.

Sincerely,
- Zodijackyl, Encyclopaedia Metallum


The band Minblod was rejected.

You can listen to their last release here on the mediafire-link:
http://distortedcognitions.webs.com/aa.html

I have the physical release here, but actually the link should be the same music as my copy.
Let me know

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herra_af_lik
Metal newbie

Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:43 pm
Posts: 249
Location: Canada
PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:17 pm 
 

Just wondering why Today I Caught The Plague is black listed? They play Progressive metal.

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Cursarion
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Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2005 6:56 am
Posts: 785
Location: Finland
PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:26 pm 
 

^ Not exactly, according to the blacklist. "Progressive metalcore".
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