The blacklist note says they're prog rock. A very brief sampling seems to confirm this - prog rock mixed with some hardcore/metal tendencies. This one has a breakdown in it but it's not metal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulYYeFnMiUk

Fair enough the song i heard "God in Skin" (which can be heard here: http://www.metalstorm.net/bands/band.ph ... Of+Slumber), sounded pretty metal to me (reminded me abit of Mastodon in parts).

But like the site rules elluded too, its all about opinions isnt it?

okies, once again I'm not contesting a rejected submission, merely asking for a clarification:

I submitted Osyon, a band who are Morbid Theory with a new name, and who re-recorded the latter's album and released it under the new name and they (the former) got rejected.
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Osyron/3540371973
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Morbid_Theory/18968

meanwhile, Illusory, who are The Ivory Tower with a new name, and who-re recorded the latter's album and released it under the new name have been accepted in the archives.
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/The ... ower/57486
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Illusory/3540364122

what's the difference? :-/

I didn't listen, but I'd like to point out that it isn't all about opinions - one song on the "right" side of the fence simply isn't enough. From the previous page:

To be honest mate, listening to the album i really cant see how this album can labled Prog Rock over Prog Metal.

A simple oversight on the mod's part. I've deleted Illusory. Keep in mind that a separate band entry needs original material first released under that name.

thanks since I'm here, do all other rules apply the same to those bands? like, they need a(nother) full length release of original material to qualify? a digital single/ep would not do, for.ex? the "covers" album would not help their cause at all?

It might factor into the decision if it's a borderline digital EP, but generally speaking, no. The valid release rule applies just the same.

I've been trying to get a band called Bloodshot added to the encyclopedia, but it keeps getting rejected. I've read the rules and I feel it does deserve to be a part of this encyclopedia.

Here's a link to some of their music:

http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/bloodshot

Hey...

Why is The Pagan Dream rejected ?

They released a split cd with Donkerland and Haunted Wood...
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Ha ... ape/393858

and this is the page that I made it...

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/The ... 3540372965

So tell me why is rejected ?

Bloodshot sounded mostly like nu-metal/rock to me. It was partly labelled as "thrash", which is kinda funny.


Apparently you either missed or ignored the very clear rejection message I sent you, so I'll repost it here for your consideration:

here can you see the cd of the split cd where is also the pagan dream

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Ha ... pe/393858#

Yes, I am aware of that entry. But the pic is ambiguous/could easily be faked and I couldn't find any useful info about Zwarte Hemel or the release online. I'm sure you understand that simply posting something you yourself added isn't real evidence. How can one obtain a copy? Is it a professionally pressed CD or a CD-R? Limitation? Can you provide a photo of the disc itself?

Any particular reason why Deuil (Belgium) is blacklisted? Did a quick search of the forums and I can't find any mention. They have a physical release (http://redriverfamily.bigcartel.com/pro ... ce-rebuild) and it seems to have pretty major atmospheric black metal elements to me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjyut8jxVCs) - although there's some post-rockish meandering it's clearly a minor element of the music IMO.

I know that people have their own opinions and views of Alter Bridge as a band but I feel there new album has a lot more in line with being considered 'metal' more so than any previous effort. Tremonti has his solo project on here and if that's considered metal because of the slightly faster riffs and the inclusion of more double bass seems like a limited guideline, at best. Their new album seems to have more in line with progressive/groove/thrash than with just general hard rock. This is their heaviest, and most diverse, album.

Songs with good examples from the newest album listed below.

Cry of Achilles:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S9OHPth364

Addicted to Pain:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M9QxzpTjec

Calm the Fire:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEmqMD-DBk0

Fortress:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0EyehDWlwQ

Well, I didn't understand exactly the reason for the band was blacklisted, they have a EP called "Condenado" released physically in 2011 and sounds like a Grindcore with Death Metal influences
I will post a url containing all songs from this release and a photograph of cds, right?
http://www.4shared.com/get/O0SUOCOm/Obi ... _2011.html
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/obittogrind (if necessary)

If applicable the band leave black list, I can add them to archives

Thanks guys (Earlier I have posted this message in wrong place, sorry)

Sorry mate, but I was the one who blacklisted that... and I can attest it's predominantly driven by punk riffs, rather than death metal ones. This is the sort of grindcore the site considers to be unacceptable, sorry.

I'd like to submit Arnocorps here as I think most who listen to them, particularly the releases after the first album (Ballsy EP, Two More! and The Fantastic EP), would be considered within the genre of Heavy Metal.

Alter Bridge is one of those so called modern rock bands that I actually like. Myles has got some pipes and plays guitar with a nifty blues overtone. Tremonti is kinda show-off, the guy has got his speed metal influences for sure but it seems he's trying too hard shredding over and over again to prove they're metal. He should write intriguing riffs instead of shredding. I haven't listened to the new album but those songs are pretty cool. Will check it out eventually.

My first submission on Maeth (http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Mae ... iscography) had been rejected as their metal element wouldn't exceed 15 minutes or so - out of 25 minutes total. Nevertheless, their EP sounds pretty stoner heavy to me regardless some calm parts here and there. They now have released a full length album - somewhat softer in general than their first attempt but i've included it in their draft page for a possible revision.

Hey
I'd like to appeal the blacklisted band 'Exist' from the USA.
I listened to the EP last night and it was pretty much straight up progressive metal.
http://existmd.bandcamp.com/album/in-mirrors-ep

Especially more worth considering now due to the fact that the singer/guitarist Max Phelps now plays in Cynic, and is currently filling the role of Chuck on the current Death To All Tour.
Parts of this EP very much reminded me of Focus, mainly towards the end of the EP.
Thanks

I've checked the entire album. There's faster metallic riffing sometimes, but the songwriting seems to be hard rock-based. Don't take this is a definite nay from MA as a whole, but that's my preliminary assessment for now.


This on the other hand... one of the EPs you mention ("Ballsy") seems to be punk rock, but "The Greatest Band of All Time" sounds like punk-loving heavy metal. No problem with accepting them based on this, I'd say. Can now be submitted. Also thanks for bringing them to my attention, cool stuff. This is what Austrian Death Machine would like to be.

Dear Encyclopaedia Metallum Team,

I read all the rules and still wonder why my project (Drang/Germany) is on the Blacklist. For sure there are some non metal songs, but all in all it is a Metal Project. To prove it please check the lastfm Website
http://www.lastfm.de/music/Drang

Hope that´s enough to get the account.

Best regards
André

I haven't stopped listening to this album since it leaked in September. This is easily one of my favorite releases of the year and most certainly the best album they've done. The sweet little guitar part in the middle of Cry of Achilles (just before the solo) is absolutely amazing to me for a band that used to be Creed (thankfully they dumped the shitty label and singer.) I haven't had a band have this much of an influence on me since I got into Deathspell Omega last year.

Hey I was just wondering about the band The Fire Sermon. The site says that they are blacklisted and I was just wondering if it's for not being metal enough or if they were black listed for not having a valid release before digital releases were accepted.

Blacklisted as post-rock/post-metal/jazz fusion back in January.

Gotcha thanks batman.

Oh well my band isn't noisegrind. I mean I play guitar and write nearly every song and riff... Please listen to the music (which is in my signature and can be streamed completely) and give me a real answer. Our split with Special Buddy Discount was put on a mini-CD and we are going to release the EP on CD very shortly.

I listened to xThe__Wizard`s band and it most certainly is not noisegrind. Sure, it is a little noisy, but it is metal music. Even if it does sound like it was recorded in a bin.

I've downloaded Controlled by Fear, was expecting some borderline metallic noisy grind affair. Far from it, it's powerviolence/grind, not metal in the slightest.

@fallot: Read this thread, please.

Sorh have been blacklisted from the archives, would their latest album qualify them to be added.

http://sorh.bandcamp.com/

Many thanks.

Blacklisted under "Dark Ambient". Provide some samples of their latest album if you feel it's metal enough.

I just listened to the new record and that's definitely different than the previous album which was rejected for being Dark Ambient. The new record is black metal. I've removed them from the blacklist and you can submit them. Thanks

Just giving this a little bump so it doesn't get lost (sorry if this isn't normally permitted).

Blacklisted reason is "Ambient/drone"

Where do you get powerviolence from? It says it on our bandcamp but we don't sound like No Comment, Despise You, Man is the Bastard or Spazz at all. Do you even know what powerviolence is dude?

Was this tone truly necessary? Azmodes has been nothing but civil and he knows his shit as well. You're not helping your case here.

Explain how my band is powerviolence and has no metal in the slightest then. The only way he would get powerviolence from my band is cause on our bandcamp it said it. Seems to me I'm just being brushed off.

Edit: If my stuff still isn't metal enough that is fine. But I just want someone to listen to the entire thing and give me a little more analysis/reason for it.

I listened to the whole thing and it's not metal enough. So that's two Mods that have said the same thing now. Sorry dude, just not going to happen.

Yes, I'm not exactly an expert on extreme punk, but I feel familiar enough with it that I can detect the subgenres/influences and discern what's punk and what's metal. I did listen to the entire thing -thanks for assuming that I didn't- and... it's punk-based grind mixed with hectic, speedy hardcore. The only thing even remotely resembling consistent use of metal riffs are a few mid-to-slow-paced sludgy parts, but this I have found to be a characteristic of (newer?) pv bands, in that they like to mix in these heavy breaks and tempo changes to further contribute to the spastic nature of the music. The use of these parts on your album appears to be very similar to this. In any case, a few islands of metaloid music are not enough when the rest is grind/hardcore-based.

So perhaps I can't tell you with total educated authority what this is in terms of punk music, but it's certainly not metal. I don't know what you intended the music to be, but I can tell you that the site does not consider the end product to be acceptable.

EDIT: I am solely referring to the EP here, but another mod told me that the material on the split is also not metal.