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DarksideOfDoom
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:47 pm 
 

i was wondering why Here Comes the Kraken is "blacklisted"

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theunrelentingattack
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:00 pm 
 

DarksideOfDoom wrote:
i was wondering why Here Comes the Kraken is "blacklisted"


Because they aren't metal.
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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:09 pm 
 

DarksideOfDoom wrote:
i was wondering why Here Comes the Kraken is "blacklisted"
Also known as "Here Come the Posers" in the Mexican Metal scene. Toré and David's former band was a million times better than HTCP.

And no, they are not Metal.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:14 pm 
 

Terrion666 wrote:
Sorry, I want to know why, when I added Suicide Movement, I recieve this answer

theunrelentingattack wrote:
DSBM is my forte. "Pure DSBM" - no, i wouldn't call it that. That first track is borderline. Strip away the screams and it doesn't convince me. The second track is okay to me. But that's 50/50 and that second one has a long ambient into, so right now I'd say no. But if there's more out there, I'll listen tomorrow.


But yersterday night I've see that Suicide Movement it's on metal-archives. Someone can explain me why? Thanks!

They weren't blacklisted, so it was submitted by another user and approved by another mod who presumably didn't know about the discussion here. Note that theunrelentingattack's post wasn't exactly a final "no", though.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:11 am 
 

Terrion666 wrote:
Sorry, I want to know why, when I added Suicide Movement, I recieve this answer

theunrelentingattack wrote:
DSBM is my forte. "Pure DSBM" - no, i wouldn't call it that. That first track is borderline. Strip away the screams and it doesn't convince me. The second track is okay to me. But that's 50/50 and that second one has a long ambient into, so right now I'd say no. But if there's more out there, I'll listen tomorrow.


But yersterday night I've see that Suicide Movement it's on metal-archives. Someone can explain me why? Thanks!


This is my bad. I accepted it. It sounded fine to me. I'm sorry for not seeing your post, Terrion666.

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DarksideOfDoom
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:12 am 
 

OpsiusCato wrote:
DarksideOfDoom wrote:
i was wondering why Here Comes the Kraken is "blacklisted"
Also known as "Here Come the Posers" in the Mexican Metal scene. Toré and David's former band was a million times better than HTCP.

And no, they are not Metal.



ahahahaha. that was good. but i'm just curious as to why. like is that the actual reason?

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VI
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 4:32 am 
 

Recently Nachtlich from Australia was rejected on the grounds that it is not a metal band.
I think this is a mistake, Nachtlich is a black metal project with noise elements.

First release is a very limited demo, of which I have a copy.
Further to this, Nachtlich has recently released a split via Wolfsvuur Records, a black metal label in The Netherlands.
A flyer for the release is here: http://www.wolfsvuur.nl/images/flyer022014.jpg

Preview of 1 song of Nchtlich is available here:


Can the rejection/black list please be reviewed please?
I would like it to correctly link to Nachtlich from the split's page, located here:
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Entsetzlich/Echoes_from_the_Void/402604

Thanks

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 6:41 am 
 

DarksideOfDoom wrote:
OpsiusCato wrote:
Also known as "Here Come the Posers" in the Mexican Metal scene. Toré and David's former band was a million times better than HTCP.

And no, they are not Metal.



ahahahaha. that was good. but i'm just curious as to why. like is that the actual reason?



uhhh.

OpsiusCato wrote:
And no, they are not Metal.

theunrelentingattack wrote:
Because they aren't metal.
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Terrion666
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:05 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
They weren't blacklisted, so it was submitted by another user and approved by another mod who presumably didn't know about the discussion here. Note that theunrelentingattack's post wasn't exactly a final "no", though.


Ok, when theunrelentingattack said "But that's 50/50 and that second one has a long ambient into, so right now I'd say no" I understand "No". Don't worry @Halloween, Suicide Movement it's on MA and that's cool. I hope that you, Mods, change the errors of line up and photo on SM's page

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19dlb92
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:31 am 
 

hi
i wanted to add the band Unhappy some time ago but it was not accepted because their releases were only available as downloads.
they have a cd out now through depressive illusion records:
it is a six way split:
https://www.facebook.com/depressiveillu ... =1&theater
can i resubmit it now?

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Peyo_Sinister
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:01 am 
 

Halloween wrote:
It wasn't much better. You submitted it 4 days after it was already in the queue. Yes, sometimes we take the better one but yours wasn't good enough to justify that because there wasn't much of a difference and you had a few mistakes that would have needed fixing, anyway. I was willing to transfer the info if you weren't. Let's not forget the band submission page says:
"Before submitting, PLEASE verify that the band is not already in the submission queue!"

You could have added the information to the approved submission instead of resubmitting it after it was already accepted. I was giving you that time to do that if you cared about points. I'll update it now.


wasn't much better? I specified the year of foundation, the changed names, the lyrical themes, I add picture of the band and logo, band members and everything.... Man, NIHILIFER are from my hometown, I drink with them, How couldn't be my information better? My submit was better than the approved one, if you don't want to accept it, it's another matter. I'm sorry, I'm truly sorry but my submit deserves more respect. I want the accepted one to be deleted and It's nothing to do with "points", they (Nihilifer) asked me to submit the band with all the RIGHT information, you can not just reject my submit because "wasn't on time" or "someone's submit was already on queque". Please understand my point of view. The worst part of all is now other user ROB all the information I brought to this page and take the credits. I demand my submit to be accepted and the other one deleted.

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theunrelentingattack
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:29 am 
 

Terrion666 wrote:

Ok, when theunrelentingattack said "But that's 50/50 and that second one has a long ambient into, so right now I'd say no" I understand "No". Don't worry @Halloween, Suicide Movement it's on MA and that's cool. I hope that you, Mods, change the errors of line up and photo on SM's page


Nope, totally wasn't a final "no" - I wasn't convinced at the time and I lost power during our last storm here so I hadn't had much chance to get back to this but I'm totally fine with it if Halloween heard something I hadn't gotten to.
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theunrelentingattack
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:34 am 
 

19dlb92 wrote:
hi
i wanted to add the band Unhappy some time ago but it was not accepted because their releases were only available as downloads.
they have a cd out now through depressive illusion records:
it is a six way split:
https://www.facebook.com/depressiveillu ... =1&theater
can i resubmit it now?


I haven't heard this release yet but isn't Unhappy mostly ambient? Do you have any links to songs to prove they are the "Raw Black Metal" that DIR claims they are?
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Splendido
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 6:20 pm 
 

Hello,

I've recently wanted to submit a band I released via my label, Unquiet Records.
The band is called Fleshworld and is from Poland. Now I see the reason it was blacklisted might have something to do with the fact that in the beginning the band was very "un-metal", doing triphop/post-rock. This, however, is no longer the case.
They now play post-metal/sludge metal with harsh vocals and black/death metal influences. Therefore I would like to ask for you to take the band off the blacklist.

Here comes the proof - recently released album "Like we're all equal again":
www.facebook.com/fleshworld
www.unquietrecords.bandcamp.com
www.unquietrecords.8merch.com

And some reviews:
http://thesludgelord.blogspot.com/2013/ ... again.html
http://frombtozee.wordpress.com/2014/02 ... t-records/
http://powermetal.de/review/review-Fles ... 23768.html
http://www.demonic-nights.at/2013/12/fl ... ual-again/

Cheers!

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 6:33 pm 
 

VI wrote:
Recently Nachtlich from Australia was rejected on the grounds that it is not a metal band.
I think this is a mistake, Nachtlich is a black metal project with noise elements.

First release is a very limited demo, of which I have a copy.
Further to this, Nachtlich has recently released a split via Wolfsvuur Records, a black metal label in The Netherlands.
A flyer for the release is here: http://www.wolfsvuur.nl/images/flyer022014.jpg

Preview of 1 song of Nchtlich is available here:
Spoiler: show


Can the rejection/black list please be reviewed please?
I would like it to correctly link to Nachtlich from the split's page, located here:
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Entsetzlich/Echoes_from_the_Void/402604

Thanks

The song on the split is random guitar chords and noise. The tracks on Myspace were noise. Not metal by a long shot.

Splendido wrote:
Hello,

I've recently wanted to submit a band I released via my label, Unquiet Records.
The band is called Fleshworld and is from Poland. Now I see the reason it was blacklisted might have something to do with the fact that in the beginning the band was very "un-metal", doing triphop/post-rock. This, however, is no longer the case.
They now play post-metal/sludge metal with harsh vocals and black/death metal influences. Therefore I would like to ask for you to take the band off the blacklist.

Here comes the proof - recently released album "Like we're all equal again":
http://www.facebook.com/fleshworld
http://www.unquietrecords.bandcamp.com
http://www.unquietrecords.8merch.com

And some reviews:
http://thesludgelord.blogspot.com/2013/ ... again.html
http://frombtozee.wordpress.com/2014/02 ... t-records/
http://powermetal.de/review/review-Fles ... 23768.html
http://www.demonic-nights.at/2013/12/fl ... ual-again/

Cheers!

The band was blacklisted in January this year; the mod listened to the 2013 album. Sounds like post-rock with harsh vocals. "black/death metal influences" :lol:
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VI
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:01 pm 
 

It's raw black metal/noise, not solely noise as you've noted.
MA has many bands listed as Raw Black Metal/Noise, why is Nachtlich viewed differently?

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:05 pm 
 

Because there is little, if any, black metal to be found. It's not predominantly metal. Bands listed on MA as "raw black metal/noise" are predominantly metal.
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VI
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:13 pm 
 

Okay no worries, seems we have different opinions about this one, I can see you aren't going to change your mind, thus let us agree to disagree. Thanks for your time reviewing this one.

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shadowzgoth
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:22 pm 
 

So what of The Defiled? They seem to be Industrial / Groove Metal?

Shame Dividing The Element was not accepted since that seems to be the only existing Zimbabwean Metal band.

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odium
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:42 am 
 

As far as I have found, Wolf Krieger has been blacklisted for not having physical release. Now, here is proof:

http://winterrealmrecords.bigcartel.com ... od-suicide

Ambient/DSBM, in my opinion. Can it be re-submitted?

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:50 am 
 

odium wrote:
As far as I have found, Wolf Krieger has been blacklisted for not having physical release. Now, here is proof:

http://winterrealmrecords.bigcartel.com ... od-suicide

Ambient/DSBM, in my opinion. Can it be re-submitted?

According to the blacklist, there's only one original metal track, the rest is ambient.
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odium
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:55 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
odium wrote:
As far as I have found, Wolf Krieger has been blacklisted for not having physical release. Now, here is proof:

http://winterrealmrecords.bigcartel.com ... od-suicide

Ambient/DSBM, in my opinion. Can it be re-submitted?

According to the blacklist, there's only one original metal track, the rest is ambient.

Yeah, kind of + Burzum cover. Got the point, thanks.

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Exhumation54
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:57 am 
 

The band Hypnotic (Germany) was rejected because:

Encyclopaedia Metallum wrote:
The Facebook link is dead.


The link is https://www.facebook.com/HypnoticDeathMetal

Encyclopaedia Metallum wrote:
Provide proof that the band plays metal (a link to song samples) and has a valid release (either evidence for a physical release, such as photos, or for a valid digital release).


The demo-album will be release by Endwar Records on tape.


Please add the band to Encyclopaedia Metallum. Thanks
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Azmodes
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So the release is still upcoming? Please wait until the tape is out then, a valid release must be out and available already.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:29 pm 
 

Hello,

I couldn't able to add the band Athor (from Turkey) to metal-archieves since they are banned!

Here is the facebook page and youtube channel of the band:

http://www.facebook.com/athorband

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UChbGh3R ... ture=watch


The style of the band should be acceptable for adding to metal-archives. In addition, they have two albums as CD format. Can you please let me know how I will able to add Athor to the site?

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jonass
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hey, remember me you guys? I was here years ago trying to make a case that Tool and Primus were more or less metal bands. I'm just stopping by briefly before you shitcan me.

Do you mean to tell me that Primus plays "rock riffs" yet Alice in Chains is a metal band? Go fuck yourselves, ya sniveling morons. In particular, whichever mod blocked me, I remember you were from Finland. Blow me ya close minded prick. Alright see ya later. P.S. Black Sabbath is a rock band too ya fuckin cunts
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Ok.
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kleber wanderley
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:14 pm 
 

hail
ennhum unable to contact any administrator of the page
But I wonder why the band "inverno suicida" of Brazil
this this list I would add it. but she is blacklisted ...

please contact [email protected] if the contact is by email

thank you very much

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:27 pm 
 

kleber wanderley wrote:
hail
ennhum unable to contact any administrator of the page
But I wonder why the band "inverno suicida" of Brazil
this this list I would add it. but she is blacklisted ...

please contact [email protected] if the contact is by email

thank you very much


Some sort of dark ambient with no guitar riffs.

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kleber wanderley
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:52 pm 
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CLei6YParg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG0GSE5fJfg

he use guitar rifs

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 4:16 am 
 

athorkan wrote:
Hello,

I couldn't able to add the band Athor (from Turkey) to metal-archieves since they are banned!

Here is the facebook page and youtube channel of the band:

http://www.facebook.com/athorband

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UChbGh3R ... ture=watch


The style of the band should be acceptable for adding to metal-archives. In addition, they have two albums as CD format. Can you please let me know how I will able to add Athor to the site?

Can you provide evidence that those albums exist on CD? Photos of physical copies? Online stores selling them?

kleber wanderley wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CLei6YParg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG0GSE5fJfg

he use guitar rifs

I'm not hearing any riffs. A distorted guitar, yes, but no riffs.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:03 am 
 

Band "Liveride" from Russia has been blacklist. But it's atmospheric black metal. Also a few digital releases are available for download: http://myzuka.ru/Artist/39946/Liveride
Can I added it again? Or was other reason for blacklisting?

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MeatWolf
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 12:39 pm 
 

Calling for re-assesment for Digimortal again, found some tracks from the last 2 albums on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TKaCVcmbAw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dufcf_3EdPk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt7V2wgDzf4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxdceGPnfmQ

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theunrelentingattack
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Malediktum wrote:
Band "Liveride" from Russia has been blacklist. But it's atmospheric black metal. Also a few digital releases are available for download: http://myzuka.ru/Artist/39946/Liveride
Can I added it again? Or was other reason for blacklisting?


The blacklisting doesn't say anything about the music - it's simply because there's no valid release. All digital, no valid distribution.
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I tried submitting the band MHÖNOS but they are blacklisted.
Their 1st release was a solo ambiant drone project but they're now a band with a full line up playing Black Metal influenced Doom/Drone.

Proof of physical release on label + Audio sample: http://store.deadseedproductions.com/pr ... atefold-lp

Can this be reviewed?

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Karii
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:07 pm 
 

Hi,

I was looking in the search tab for Five Finger Death Punch to add some of their albums to my collection.
It said that that band was blacklisted.

Maybe it has been asked on this thread before, I honestly don't know, I didn't read the full 261 pages.

Can anyone explain to me why they are blacklisted?

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Because they're not metal... you could have used the search function to find that out.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 2:43 am 
 

I did a search for Ovid's Withering, and saw the previous conversation where it was said we could submit them again, but when I try to submit them, it still shows them as blacklisted. Not sure if this is a mistake still? I'd call them orchestral melodic technical death metal, personally.

Just a big fan of theirs, love them!
Cheers,
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 4:40 am 
 

theunrelentingattack wrote:
Malediktum wrote:
Band "Liveride" from Russia has been blacklist. But it's atmospheric black metal. Also a few digital releases are available for download: http://myzuka.ru/Artist/39946/Liveride
Can I added it again? Or was other reason for blacklisting?


The blacklisting doesn't say anything about the music - it's simply because there's no valid release. All digital, no valid distribution.

Hm well, that myzuka site seems like valid distribution? It's band-sanctioned, I assume?

cult_of_death wrote:
I tried submitting the band MHÖNOS but they are blacklisted.
Their 1st release was a solo ambiant drone project but they're now a band with a full line up playing Black Metal influenced Doom/Drone.

Proof of physical release on label + Audio sample: http://store.deadseedproductions.com/pr ... atefold-lp

Can this be reviewed?

That track doesn't sound acceptable. Mostly noisy drone/ambient. This is certainly not something I'd call a definitive metal release (if the song is representative). At the very least, I'd like to have the entire release available for listening.

Karii wrote:
Hi,

I was looking in the search tab for Five Finger Death Punch to add some of their albums to my collection.
It said that that band was blacklisted.

Maybe it has been asked on this thread before, I honestly don't know, I didn't read the full 261 pages.

Can anyone explain to me why they are blacklisted?

search.php?keywords=%22Five+Finger+Death+Punch%22&terms=all&author=&fid%5B%5D=3&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search

aliyah wrote:
I did a search for Ovid's Withering, and saw the previous conversation where it was said we could submit them again, but when I try to submit them, it still shows them as blacklisted. Not sure if this is a mistake still? I'd call them orchestral melodic technical death metal, personally.

Just a big fan of theirs, love them!
Cheers,
Aliyah \m/

Which conversation would that be? Any mention I can find with the search function is a "no" in regards to their musical acceptability.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:34 pm 
 

I upload my band but I can not because it is in the blacklist.
Before the problem was physical evidence, but now I have it and I want to upload
Please let me register

Ezekiel

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