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Halloween
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:51 am

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This thread is for bands that might be acceptable here, but require more research. When posting a band here, try to post as much information about the band as possible. This will help others find more about the band and it ensures that that information will always be available, as websites can disappear.

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If you had a band rejected, take your time to read (or re-read) our rules and the rejection message you received to make certain that the issue isn't already answered there, i.e. the band isn't simply unacceptable by our guidelines but that there is a genuine lack of information/samples for a potentially acceptable band.
Check to see that the band isn't blacklisted. You can do this by inputting the name and country of the band. If a match is blacklisted, an orange warning box will appear. Post in this thread if you want to know the reason.
Use the search function to ensure that the band hasn't been discussed and deemed acceptable or unacceptable already. Enter the band name and in "Search in forums:" select "Suggestions and Complaints".
Also, be sure to check the spoiler'd lists below for your band(s). If they are already there, follow the links and check if you can bring anything new to the table. Quote the linked post in your response.

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Where you can ask about why bands were blacklisted/deleted
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For the first two, use this forum.
For the third thing, use this thread or file a removal/error report on the band page itself.
For the fourth thing, try submitting the band if you think they are metal and have a valid release.

The following is a listing of bands posted in this thread that have yet to be added or determined unacceptable:

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Neseblod list

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[Updated by PaganiusI on Oct 29th, 2018]

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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:21 am

I'm always interested in stuff like this but this guy isn't cheap. At least the Sinistrad tape looks metal.

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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:26 am

Was going to buy them but the seller won't ship to the US.

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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:49 am

Original OP, moved to make OP cleaner:

Added. - Bloated Maggot & Sinistrad

Spoiler: show

Yeah, he wants waaaay too much for them. I didn't realize he didn't ship to the US, I thought ships worldwide meant worldwide :\... I guess that narrows it down to Canadians only

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Here are a couple more bands, sadly with no easy way to confirm anything about them:

Unacceptable - Keyboards and drums - House of Kerion

Spoiler: show

Added. - Iskalde Vinder

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[Updated by PaganiusI on Oct. 9th, 2018]

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Halloween
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:39 pm

I was hoping there would be more interest in this thread

Anyway, here is another band:

Added. - Cosmic Winds

Spoiler: show

[Updated by PaganiusI on Oct. 9th, 2018]

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OpsiusCato
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 2:51 pm

Threads like these are usually slow, Halloween. I like your idea, though. You want me to take Cosmic Winds?

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Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 4:57 pm

Yay! Yes, go for it, man. I was overenthusiastic about it, but I guess if I can't find information, others might not be able to either..

Here are a few more. I don't have time to write them up nicely, maybe later:

Added. - Sverdkamp

Spoiler: show

Added. - Deathbed (Chicago, United States)

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Added. - Lisovyk (Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada)

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[Updated by PaganiusI on Oct. 9th, 2018]

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Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 4:31 pm

I really like this idea, and once I actually have money again (so late June) I'll definitely be down for buying random shit on ebay, I do it for myself already anyways. It's the thrill of the hunt! Also I doubt a substantial portion of the user base ever looks in this forum, I just found this thread today and it's been around for like a month.

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Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 9:14 pm

I'm always willing to buy random stuff - biggest thing for me is shipping. Shipping to the US from other countries can be more than the tape and that doesn't make sense.

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Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 9:53 pm

Deathbed is on demand CDRs only. Though they say they'll have a tape soon.

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Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 11:08 pm

Thanks everyone! I'll make sure to post more random stuff as I find it. :-P

Here is one that would probably end up being very expensive. I've been looking for info on this one for a long time and nothing else showed up:

Needs research. - Sewer Disgust
Location: Norway
Release: "Sewer Disgust"
1991

This is available at Neseblod so it's probably going to be expensive.

http://www.neseblodrecords.com/news.php ... om=&ucat=&

If you don't want to load all of that, here is the info on the page:

http://www.neseblodrecords.com/cutenews ... or_029.jpg
Sewer Disgust-"Sewer Disgust" Original Mega Rare Demo 1991 Memb:Mysticum
NOK: BUD/BID

I was interested because of the "Memb:Mysticum" bit. I assume that means a member of Mysticum was in it. I contacted Neseblod a few years ago and he described it as "some sort of metal" and I didn't want to bother the guy further. However, he also told me that Faust played drums on it. I contacted Mysticum and Faust recently and no reply yet. I doubt they'd reply to a random person inquiring about an old band they may not have even had a part in anyway, haha. Faust didn't play on it!

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Posted: Sun May 11, 2014 12:59 am

I just bought Sinistrad. He does ship worldwide after all. He just sets his account up like a idiot. If it's metal, I'll create it.

Edit: 5.25 to ship 1 tape. Hope I never see another one from him.

Edit: Ha. Neseblod. A metal fan's dream, a wallet's nightmare. If I could ever define my limit, he's it.

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Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 2:55 pm

Cosmic Winds purchased and on it's way from Germany. I'll add them unless OC gets to them first.

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Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 5:58 pm

Woah! Thanks for buying those. Looks like this thread is finally paying off

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And yeah, Neseblod has so much cool stuff but I'd never consider paying the price. There are a few bands on that list that aren't here other than Sewer Disgust if anyone wants to go digging. We actually had a band from there added somewhat recently.

Also, since I'm advocating random purchases, I might as well post this here. These are very likely to be faked, I'd advise not to buy:

Vampiric Ritual - Demo 2004
Hsart - 2004 Demo
Deathtoall - Demo #1
Tid - Truth Is Dominant

Pretty sure they're all fakes by Bathym. He trolled the bm scene pretty hard with the Anti-Wulfhere Front, fighting with Black Twilight Circle, and the joke the USBM list became. I actually saw him selling the Hsart demo once, describing it as sounding like Burzum. He also fought with Vampiric Ritual here. There was also a demo by "Wolf Eyed" which the auction said had an Ashdautas member, but it doesn't seem to be there anymore. Not 100% sure about the others, but the art is very similar. I know we added a separate page for a band that faked a release of another band, but I highly doubt these had more distribution than a handful of cassettes.

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Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 7:05 am

The downfall to that guy is that the tapes themselves look the same. That TID tape from 2011 - looks like a tape from 1983.

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OpsiusCato
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 5:19 pm

So, if TUA took Cosmic Winds... It means he's gonna take the assignment too?

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Halloween
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 1:02 am

Here is an easy one (maybe):

Added. - Thorzon

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Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 3:47 pm

Update! So, I got Sinistrad today and well....not quite ready to post this yet. Firstly, there is no indication of country so I don't know where they are from. Secondly and most importantly, there's a lot of droning noise. I would say there's some black metal but enough noise that if this was submitted in the queue it would sit there for a while. I'm going to give it a few more listens before deciding. I'm assuming it's real as I don't know why something as bad as this would be faked but it is bare bones for sure.

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Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 6:06 pm

Heh, kind of wishing I had had the spare funds to grab it now based on that description. I also doubt it's fake because at least another source mentions it.

That's a shame it might not be acceptable, though.. at that price :ugh:

Sorry if it ends up not being here..

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Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 7:49 pm

No sweat - I think it might be okay. Even if not, my choice to buy it - I like the gamble. Not enough to buy Sewer Disgust but enough...

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Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 5:30 pm

I added Sinistrad. It's got enough metal in it. Put /Noise as part of the genre too. Put it in the notes because there's no year on it though.

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Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 1:51 pm

Cosmic Winds is here and I'll listen to it shortly.

Edit: Submitted. If you go to bandcamp and can read the names of the artists - feel free to add them. My black metal handwriting class got cancelled.

Noisy stuff - more based in black metal than Sinistrad but all over the map - listed them as Avant-garde Black Metal because that's the only term that really fits.

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Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 6:29 pm

Thanks a lot! I'm glad something actually happened as a result of this. I added spoiler tags around the added bands

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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:00 pm

Glad to see Bloated Maggot was added! Thanks, TUA. Sverdkamp was as well, not because of this thread, but heck yeah regardless.

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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:33 pm

Funny, I didn't even remember Bloated Maggot was part of this string. Interesting tape. Sound isn't too great but decent enough for a completely DIY recording. I just bought this one - doesn't seem to have a profile here either.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/l-o-k-o-s-t-chu ... 418357efaa

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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:23 pm

Got a bid on this one too - could be interesting

http://www.ebay.com/itm/201127629412?ss ... 1426.l2649

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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:42 am

So is this thread mainly for groups with a release that no one has heard yet, or would the opposite also fit here? Would a band with listenable songs, but a mystery surrounding whether or not they released a real tape fit here?

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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:05 pm

Yeah, Halloween did that with Iskalde Vinder - so I suppose so.

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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:19 am

Thanks for keeping up with ebay.. I haven't been since I've been busy. It's good to know someone else is actually looking. Sometimes can find really obscure stuff.

And yeah, I made this thread for bands that there is some evidence to be added, but not all of it (hence the thread title!). A lot were bands without samples because samples usually implies a release, though.

I did throw in an easy to add band, Thorzon, because I was unfamiliar with the bands it was compared to in the review. Easy add if anyone is down

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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:40 am

Still waiting on those two but got two yesterday that I need to listen to,- The Last Call of the Wolves which despite listed as NSBM, i'm going to bet is ambient and something called Death Fucktory. Should be interesting.

Edit: Eh, the Call of the Last Wolves is a comp. Bummer, not what I was led to believe.
Edit: Son of a bitch - Death Fucktory is also a comp. Gotta get on this sellers ass.

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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:42 am

In that case:

Needs research. - USSR (aka Kaplunk depending on where you look)

Average punk/thrash hybrid from...somewhere. They're likely American, but there is literally nothing at all about them online aside from two songs and a bare bones last.fm entry, which due to their name attributes a number of National Songs from the actual U.S.S.R. to the band.

The more punk John Lennon is Dead was performed by the band at the 1996 Holidays in The Sun punk music festival in the UK, and a recording of the song is featured on various albums from the event, as seen in their Discogs cache.

The more thrash Live Near Death was featured on the in-game soundtrack to the 2005 video game Tony Hawk's American Wasteland, but was not released on the games tie-in soundtrack album.

I've found no evidence at all that the band had a real release, or any other songs that could be attributed to them.

Of note, I did find two other bands with the name USSR: A straight edge band from Texas that released a punk EP in 2006 (MySpace here), and a USSR that contributed to this EDM sampler. The EDM band seems unlikely to be the same, and the kids from the Texas band seem far to young in their MySpace photos to be the same guys from the John Lennon is Dead performance above.

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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:02 am

Here's some interesting ebay auctions that I'm watching right now - I don't trust how they are labeled at all - so I'm going strictly by look on these - thoughts on which ones have the best shot at being metal? They are a little expensive to take too much of a random shot on.

Interested to see what others think before I spend the cash

Outlandos D'Sol: Labeled with an Iron Maiden tag - but this doesn't scream Iron Maiden by looking at it. Questionable.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/231286969120?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Jeremy Scared: Odd name, labeled with a Metallica tag. Only two tracks, so for $23 this crap better be metal. Jeremy Scared sounds indie rock to me but, I don't know.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/271553333684?ss ... 1423.l2649

God Awful: Labeled with tags of Metallica and Iron Maiden. This one looks less shady than the first two.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/271553337130?ss ... 1423.l2649

Inthroned: This one definitely looks metal by the cover

http://www.ebay.com/itm/380353685597?ss ... 1423.l2649

Perdition/Crematorium of Dachan split: Know nothing about this

http://www.ebay.com/itm/380400770390?ss ... 1423.l2649

Piss: Definitely not sold on this one. I can see this being some kind of post-punk.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/360380017794?ss ... 1423.l2649

Burial Garden: Kind of screams punk...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/360465496597?ss ... 1423.l2649

Position of Power: I do trust this label of thrash

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281382901421?ss ... 1423.l2649

World War Puke: Labeled as thrash - guy is usually accurate and he knows what I like - so he recommended it. Cover scares me off a little though:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281382902304?ss ... 1423.l2649

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theunrelentingattack wrote:

World War Puke: Labeled as thrash - guy is usually accurate and he knows what I like - so he recommended it.

He must know you, he made sure to mention that the band isn't found on MA.

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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:11 am

Not necessarily. I've seen that fact used to advertise obscurity in eBay listings before. Probably even the same dude.

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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:14 am

Oh, he knows I'm a Mod on MA and I've told him I'm looking for bands that don't have an MA profile - but he was using that before we started chatting.

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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:51 am

Can't wait to get this one - megarare.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261538485552?ss ... 1497.l2649

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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:17 pm

The Perdition/Crematoriums of Dachan is probably one of those Bathym tapes I mentioned earlier, so I'd avoid it. Music wise, he was putting out ambient stuff under Perdition if I recall, so it might not even be metal. Perdition is blacklisted, also.

Inthroned already here, page needs fixing it seems:
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Enthroned/46551

Outlandos D'Sol has instruments listed, it has guitars, but it also features a saxophone and an organ.

That's all I know/could find

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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:27 pm

I saw the sax and organ - which made it sketchy. I've unwatched that - and will avoid the perdition one. Good call on Inthroned. Didn't see that.

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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:30 pm

So, from the guy that sold Bloated Maggot I got L.O.K.U.S.T. labeled as black metal but is dark ambient and Hagall (US) also labeled as black metal but is nothing more than ambient black noise. I see the real challenges of this now.

At least I got Valraven, who's profile here was pretty wrong.

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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:20 pm

theunrelentingattack wrote:

Got a bid on this one too - could be interesting

http://www.ebay.com/itm/201127629412?ss ... 1426.l2649

Finally, another one of these pays off - this is a very good Brutal Death/Grindcore band from the US. I'll add them soon. I know this ebay user was heavy into the underground death metal scene so his descriptions are very accurate.

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