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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 4:05 pm 
 

Banner day for new adds. Was able to get off ebay and add four new ones - Disease Infected, Animistic Evil, Pregasm and Melancholia. The Pregasm tape sounds a bit like early Napalm Death. That's got to be an insanely rare tape. I did end up buying that Piss record I mentioned above. I'm trying to get a USB tape deck - might have to record that and get a second opinion. Kind of doom-y but it might fall too much on the drone-ish side - so I'm not adding it for now.
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theunrelentingattack wrote:
I'm trying to get a USB tape deck


I've heard Alesis is a good brand for USB decks, but seeing as I don't own one, I can't comment. If you find one you'd recommend, do post it, please.
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Haven't checked on this thread in a while. Nice to see those tapes were actually metal.

Anyway, I was looking for a release without a track-list and came upon someone's sale list that had a few bands not here.
http://darkpast.forumfree.it/?t=12800638&st=150
He's not very good with genre classification since most of the stuff listed as black metal that isn't here is ambient, but here are a few likely candidates

Added. - ETA CARINAE
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(Ita) - Conte,pt & Melancholy (Black Metal)
Tape
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Pna_rr ... QcLyoXHxOg
Azublazu -- All Vocals- Lyrics -- Bass
Antonino Lo Nardo -- All Guitars
Michele Assennato -- Drums

This one could be added right now, but the demo has no definite track-listing. It might be out there if someone wants to go look. I can't find anything. Feel free to add it, track-list or not. It's not really black metal, but melodic death metal.


No samples found after almost a decade and later name is not metal anyway. - GRENDEL'S CAVE (Ita) - Decadenza Demo Tape 1998
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Interview describes first 3 demos as death metal with influences
http://www.geocities.ws/azrielkris/iillogo.html
http://www.metalhammer.it/interview.asp ... -cantante/
Review mentions them:
http://www.perkele.it/index.asp?pag=recensioni2&id=3041

This is the previous name of http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Illogo/62274
The interviews/reviews make it sound like it would be the same as Illogo. I can't find samples to verify this, though.


Needs research. - AUTOMORTE (Ita) - s/t (Black Metal) Demo Tape

Cannot find any information on this one at all. Could be black metal, could be something else. Something to keep an eye out for and maybe contact the guy about. His e-mail: blasphemousart [at] libero.it

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:29 pm 
 

I've actually had 9 or 10 that I've found from that original Canadian dude that have been added. He's a goldmine of rare tapes. Unfortunately, he's breaking my wallet but I like it. I have a box of tapes at work - maybe 30 of them to go through and I'd bet there's another half dozen or so to add. Have to find the time to get to them though.

Last post from that guy above seems to be 2011 - but I'll request a list of what he has, see if he's still selling. But that's also from Italy - which likely means very high shipping - paying more for shipping than the tapes themselves is not something I really can deal with. But I don't know that I've ever gotten anything from italy before, so it's worth a check.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:14 pm 
 

Submitted Eta Carinae without a track list. I searched high and low, and while I can find a number of sites and archived pages that show the four tracks of the demo, none of them seem to offer up a definitive tracklist. Some sites show three tracks, some show four, and most have no numbered listing for the tracks.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:33 pm 
 

Thanks, man! The track-list is bound to turn up eventually :)

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:36 pm 
 

This guy has listed a few tapes on ebay that aren't here:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/ilexworld/m.htm ... 7675.l2562


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:52 am 
 

All of these lack actual samples to verify the music, though any sort of further information is welcome:

Added. - Apprentess
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http://www.discogs.com/Apprentess-Headless-Horseman-I-Need-A-Woman/release/5781672
This band was submitted by lunaboy at some point, who allegedly owns a copy, but -charming person that he is- he refused to share samples. If anyone else has this record and/or is willing to provide music or at least a description of it, please speak up.


Added. - Sado
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http://www.musik-sammler.de/media/1094487
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/LOADER-SADO-A-BO ... 1568076811 (this is tagged as a bootleg on m-s.de and apparently a "split" with Loader)
Described as heavy metal/avant-garde, but no samples anywhere.


Not metal. - Haunted Child
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http://www.musik-sammler.de/media/1094308
Apparently a band formed by some members of Solar Eagle. I only found this, but that song doesn't seem to be on the album (it says (c) 2010 too...)? Album title is spelled a bit different. Would be a mighty coincidence, but maybe another band? Perhaps someone could contact the uploader.


Added. - Skorbut (Deu)
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From Hesse, this is not the same band as the one from Berlin. I came across it while updating ex-guitar player Oliver Gerke's page. They have at least four CD releases (I have photographic proof for that). He described the music as "experimental heavy metal/prog", but was unwilling to send me samples because one of the ex-members is ashamed of the band nowadays (going so far as to attempt to acquire every single last copy and destroy it -_-). Tried contacting their old drummer as well (a certain Christian Persch, now in Mesmerized), but so far no response. I doubt posting this here will help, but... doesn't hurt either.


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Azmodes wrote:
Haunted Child
http://www.musik-sammler.de/media/1094308
Apparently a band formed by some members of Solar Eagle. I only found this, but that song doesn't seem to be on the album (it says (c) 2010 too...)? Album title is spelled a bit different. Would be a mighty coincidence, but maybe another band? Perhaps someone could contact the uploader.


I messaged the guy on youtube. I'm assuming it's the same band because he seems to be credited on the demo (Rydell instead of Riddell, though). Maybe it was an unused track and the (c) 2010 came from the year he uploaded it?

EDIT: Either way, the uploader is in a band that is probably acceptable here, :lol::
http://nonexistentmetal.bandcamp.com/
http://www.reverbnation.com/nonexistentmetal

Azmodes wrote:
Sado
http://www.musik-sammler.de/media/1094487
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/LOADER-SADO-A-BO ... 1568076811 (this is tagged as a bootleg on m-s.de and apparently a "split" with Loader)
Described as heavy metal/avant-garde, but no samples anywhere.


I bid on another copy on ebay.

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Halloween wrote:
This guy has listed a few tapes on ebay that aren't here:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/ilexworld/m.htm ... 7675.l2562


My wallet hates you. Now I have another guy I have to buy from. Why can't you find someone in the US for me. Shipping from Sweden is going to cost an arm and a leg. Any idea what user he is? I suppose I could just ask him. He's put a link to MA on all his pages so he's someone here.

Bought:
Repent - two of the guys from Mors Principium Est - surprised this isn't on here yet and not blacklisted either. Very curious.
Kahn - though it's listed as Grind so we'll see if it's metal enough.
Abomation - listed as thrash.
Gothic Lethargy - listed as Gothic/Doom


Bidding on:
Surson - cover looks metal enough.

Interesting but didn't buy:
That Empryia Demo isn't on here but I'm not buying it either for 8 bucks.

I'm going to have to ask him about Mine is To Suffer before dropping 12.99 on that guy.

He's got Sonic Temple up there - the tape is called "Hell Yeah" - and he lists it as black metal. I'm skeptical there and not willing to spend $12.99 to find out.

Morfeo - not sure I trust this being metal - could be some black metal, could be some ambient shit.

I'm not bidding on Grimorium - though there might be enough in the picture to add this without purchase. I'll bring it up in the mod forum.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:04 pm 
 

:lol: Last time it was a seller in the US, I ended up with a bunch of ambient tapes. Also, I forgot to post here, but I am bidding on the Morfeo one because I have a little bit of spare cash (but not enough to buy him out :(), so it's good that you didn't. Bring on the ambient shit, I suppose.

I was suspicious of the Sonic Temple tape as well. If it wasn't for the bright and colorful "Hell Yeah", haha.

No idea about his user, though. Maybe he could be talked into adding the Empyria demo.

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His prices are pretty reasonable at least. I just get fleeced on shipping. I struck a nice bond with the Canadian dude and we do a lot of business but at 12.99 or above i had to limit it. This new guy has some nice rare stuff though. Like truly rare.
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I asked him about Sonic Temple and his response was "don't buy it, it's shit." Haha. I won't ask him about Morfeo since it's your money and you've bid anyway. :)
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Nice, Halloween. Let me know what comes of those.

Wanna submit Nonexistent?
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theunrelentingattack: Yeah, I wish I had the money to buy all the rare tapes from him. What did he say about Mine Is to Suffer? The guy in that band has an artist page here already.

Azmodes: About Haunted Child, he confirmed it was the same band and gave me more info, trying to get samples now. He said there were more demos, so maybe that's where the song came from. I'll pm you when I learn more.

You can submit Nonexistent, if you want. If not, I'll submit it when I get the time. He also has another band:
http://www.reverbnation.com/demonspeed
Kinda shred-heavy, but I think it'd be metal enough for here. It's a digital release, but it does have a fixed tracklist:
https://myspace.com/demonspeed/music/songs
and cover: link

I also got both the Sado CD and the Morfeo tape. I'll rip Sado and post here when it arrives.

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Didn't get a response on mine is to suffer - maybe he missed that note. We sent a few. Paid yesterday so I when I get mine I'll listen and add.
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Halloween wrote:
Azmodes: About Haunted Child, he confirmed it was the same band and gave me more info, trying to get samples now. He said there were more demos, so maybe that's where the song came from. I'll pm you when I learn more.

You can submit Nonexistent, if you want. If not, I'll submit it when I get the time. He also has another band:
http://www.reverbnation.com/demonspeed
Kinda shred-heavy, but I think it'd be metal enough for here. It's a digital release, but it does have a fixed tracklist:
https://myspace.com/demonspeed/music/songs
and cover: link

I also got both the Sado CD and the Morfeo tape. I'll rip Sado and post here when it arrives.

Great news. I've added Nonexistent (hope I got the genre right...). Checking Demon Speed now.

EDIT: Added. erm, could you maybe ask him if he went under the alias "The Axe" in Solar Eagle? Not quite sure if that's him right now, but on the Demon Speed FB it says that he used to be lead guitar player for them.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 1:30 pm 
 

Already asked! Thanks for submitting them.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:11 pm 
 

Sado:
goodbye link

128 kbps because hail Satan. Quick post because short on time, possibly okay for here but really iffy at times. Submit it if you think it's okay.

Morfeo is also some kinda synthy goth/doom stuff. It's honestly pretty good. I'm not 100% sure about it, though. I'll rip it when I can.


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Sounds acceptable, added. Prog/heavy or prog/power or something like that.

They, uh, are from the US, right? Music sounds like it, at least. :)
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The tapes finally arrived from Sweden today - will have to get listening - after I smash the cases to pieces as the duck tape he used to keep them all together melted onto the cases and half of them are glued shut. :)

Edit:
Gothic Lehargy listed as "Doom/Gothic Metal." - Not remotely metal. All keyboard driven goth, not metal in the least bit.
Repent - Mors Principum Est members. Certainly not melodic death like that band - more straight up heavy metal. I've added them.
Durson - nice pure Death Metal. Added.
Kahn - good short piece of grind/death - added.
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Azmodes: Yes they were and I added the rest of the info. I'll scan the tape insert when I get back, not home for long.

TUA: 3/4 isn't bad :D

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Agreed. I think there's at least one more not on the site to check out tomorrow.
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Here's another one if someone wants to buy it. Depressive black metal, so have fun with that!

Etonedicius - Baiulus
http://starvedrelations.bigcartel.com/p ... ius-bailus
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Done. I'll listen to it when it comes. DSBM is my expertise, so I'm down with that.

That ebay seller discounted that Mine is to Suffer tape, so I bought it. I'm going to have to digitize it and get a second opinion. It's absolutely terrible but might actually be metal. But if it is, don't know what the hell to call it. It's got a slight death metal vibe to it, maybe a little groove metal but with terrible clean vocals. Extremely tough listen.
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Heh, tough listen sounds fun, actually. Did the Etonedicius tape ever show up?

Anyway, I'm slowly getting around to submitting bands that I have info for, but in the process of submitting Nattfrossa, I came across two that would be good candidates for this thread/further research.

Added. - Somber (Sweden)
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Death metal or Melodic Death Metal
Released "Dragonfly" and "Dragonfly / Daybreak"

Nattfrossa recruited their drummer for a period of time, but it seems like they could be added here. Nattfrossa's website describes them as melodic detah metal, while the others just say death metal. There might be a review or something out there on the internet for it if someone wants to look

Info:
http://www.rockdetector.com/artist/swed ... olm/somber
http://www.discogs.com/Somber-Dragonfly ... se/4227823
http://nattfrossa2.tripod.com/history.html[/s]
I think I found enough to submit


Added. - Out of Hand (Sweden)
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Gothic Doom Metal (possibly)
Released "A Dream"

The rockdetector link for Somber mentions one of the members later forming this band and releasing "A Dream" describing it as gothic doom. A review I found says it's doom metal or dark rock and compares it to Type O Negative and Bay Laurel. I'm not confident that this would be enough to submit it, but maybe there are samples out there somewhere. Damn these common band/album names, makes googling rough.

http://www.rockdetector.com/artist/swed ... olm/somber
http://www.angelfire.com/az/zablogma/demorev.html


No sign of VR. - Omen (Sweden)
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There's also a band called Omen from Sweden that's probably metal, but I can't find anything other than a mention in Nattfrossa's bio and that the drummer was called "Henning Stonehammer of Belial." I'm surprised Somber isn't here yet, so maybe something is wrong with them. In any case, I'll try to look more into these when I finish the rest of my submission, but I don't have much time lately.


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Etonedicius just showed up Thursday - like a month and a half later. Frankly, I didn't remember it was part of this string. I'll listen Monday.
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Well, good. I was worried I got you ripped off. :D

I submitted Somber. I was able to find enough info. Apparently the demo was for sale on Neseblod. I should really go through their list one day and pick out bands that aren't here.

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There was a note in it that said "sorry for the massive delay," at which point I thought to myself - "what the hell is this package." I really need to start tracking my orders better.
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I guess it's better to forget about it than worry about why it hadn't showed up. Glad to see it was metal enough. That's one more off the list.

Since I had free time, I went through neseblod's demos. Around 1700 bands and only 2 that I could add with easily available information. Such a great idea. I wrote a script and narrowed it down to around 250, but it still sucked.

Anyway, here are the ones that I could not confirm as non-metal or typos with some notes if relevant. I just listed the band names, typos included, so you can just ctrl+f here for release titles since I'm lazy.

Original link is dead, here's an archives version: link

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Akeron
Åkes Orgasm
Allegro Rubato
Almost Funeral
Arktogaa
Avadon
Aya
Black Leather Metal
Burn by Tears
Depressive Carrots
Dimension Frost
Einar Grimm Band/Group
Evil Kebab
Excubitor
Face The Reality
I Ruinerna Av Mig Själv
Kardinal
Menadel
Mortorigis
Mystical Noise
No Place To Hide
Phlegma
Plutonium 239
Psalm=1
Probably rock/punk. Pussycunts
R.a.s. (Ger) - "Sackratte" demo 1987 - https://www.discogs.com/release/8605862 ... ckratte-87
Shadow Minion
Stanka
Stealer of Souls
The Gargoyles
Tstragramaton
Wedan
Wynter


EDIT: Found info for Ildkrig!
EDIT2: Gothony submitted
EDIT3: Bleed Me Tears submitted
EDIT4: Shadow Dancers shouldn't have been in the list, oops
EDIT5: Vidvandre was added
EDIT6: Made individual post about Asmorod because demo here not metal.

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Witcher wrote:
Thanks a lot for the update.

You forgot Winter/Wynter, but it has time.
I found an last.fm page of I Ruinerna Av Mig Själv, it has only a minimal info, but as you have said, it is better than nothing: https://www.last.fm/music/I+Ruinerna+av+Mig+Sj%C3%A4lv
Here are some demo titles for the bands from Naseblod's list:
Akeron - demo 96
Excubitor thou art-promo tape orginal.pris:100 nok/16.99 dollar
Wedan-Suddenly one day..orginal demo tape 1990.RARE.BID/BUD
Mortorigis-The darkened palace orginal reh nr24/50 copys.a gift to maniac/signed to maniac.BID/BUD
Almost funeral-Nearly funeral orginal demo tape number 5.NORGE.BUD/BID
Face the reality-Don`t belive the hype orginal demo tape 1996.pris:150 nok/24.99 dollar
Stealer of souls-s/t.orginal demo tape old.NR 23.NORGE.BUD/BID
Evil kebab-Hjernepine orginal demo tape 1990.NORGE.BUD/BID
Burn by tears-A path thr..orginal tape 1998.pris:150 nok/24.99 dollar
Tstragramaton-orginal demo tape 1993 BUD/BID
R.A.S.-Sackrotte orginal demo tape 1987 GERMANY BUD/BID
Wyver/Mortifer 2 in on orginal demo 1995 SWEDEN BUD/BID
Winter night overturn-1995-1996 2 in one RARE BUD/BID
Allegro rubato/Nightside kingdom-2 in one MEGA RARE NORGE BUD/BID
Notes: Wyver/Mortifer is apparently a split album, I wonder, if the band's name is really Wyver or Wyvern?
Allegro Rubato /Nightside Kingdom is a split album of two bands.
Winter Night Overture releae apparently contains two demos.
I left the price tags as they were, because trying to remove would mean another hour of work...
I have also noticed, by whom the Motowns album was added, that would mean, that the owner of Swoss Melodic Rock is ready to communicate and share some info. Good news, since he owns also the albums by Edison and Jade.

MetalCuresHeadaches wrote:
In reference to the Nesblod list update from the last page, we can make a few more changes to it. I attempted to purchase a few of the cheaper releases on that list back in 2016, and had him come back to tell me he either 1) no longer had or 2) couldn't find the following:

    -Arktogaa
    -Excubitor
    -Psalm=1
    -Stanka
    -Wynter

Truthfully, it did take nearly 5 months of regularly emailing/Facebooking him to get any sort of update before I finally gave up on him, so I can't confirm if they are actually no longer available, or if he was just too lazy to look for them.

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Regarding Wyver: I can say with high probability bordering on certainty, that the band is in fact the Swedish band Wyvern. The most important fact- their origianl guitarist Jonas Berndt has also played in Mortifer, other Wyvern band members have also played in black metal bands and Wyvern have some rare demos rleased before their demo album. The 2 in one remark does not always mean a split album, but it can be a double demo package made by the Neseblod owner or the source he got it from. See here: https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/ ... rgon/35976
The name Wyver looks like an obvios typo and I could not find any info about a band of such name. The expression has also nno meaning in any language known to me. The Neseblod entry also makes it clrar, that both "Wyver" and Mortifer are Swedish bands.

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Regarding Jesus Fucking Christ: I think , that the band can be removed from the list, because whatever the music on their 1994 tape "Unlive From Golgotha " is, it certainly is not metal. Noise/experimental/fusion/jazzgrind maybe ? Judge for yoursef, full demo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD1pglp9xH4
https://www.discogs.com/Jesus-Fucking-C ... se/1716240
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Skorbut (Deu)
From Hesse, this is not the same band as the one from Berlin. I came across it while updating ex-guitar player Oliver Gerke's page. They have at least four CD releases (I have photographic proof for that). He described the music as "experimental heavy metal/prog", but was unwilling to send me samples because one of the ex-members is ashamed of the band nowadays (going so far as to attempt to acquire every single last copy and destroy it -_-). Tried contacting their old drummer as well (a certain Christian Persch, now in Mesmerized), but so far no response. I doubt posting this here will help, but... doesn't hurt either.

If anyone cares, after further inquiry, Gerke was kind enough to send me some samples after all. :np: Pretty weird stuff indeed, but it's metal. Entry will follow soon.
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I've been thinking about ordering some of those cheaper neseblod tapes, Wynter being one of them but shipping to the US is flat out insane - certainly trustworthy is he says it's metal but for those without description - not going to take the chance for how expensive this is going to be to get them.
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I'd do some more research before committing to buy. I didn't do much more than a few google searches to see if there was a typo or if they were listed anywhere, so there might be more out there. Wynter looks good, though.

Don't buy the Gothony tape, by the way. It just got posted online. I also didn't list it, but I bought the Arisk tape from somewhere else pretty cheaply.

@Az, heh, I'm counting it as a win for this thread even though you did everything. The Haunted Child guy hasn't replied about selling the tape, by the way. :(

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The Haunted Child guy hasn't replied about selling the tape, by the way. :(

I might try my luck myself. Can you PM me his email or his Youtube account?

Regarding Apprentess, Antioch managed to dig up a video of their bass player Tom Bettini (later of Jakyl fame) talking about his personal history as a musician. He mentions the band at one point, describing them as "hardcore metal" ("hardcore" as an adjective, not the punk genre, given the context/intonation). There's also some photos included of the band playing live, which look, well, pretty metal. Yeah yeah, I should know better, looks being deceiving and all, but might be worth considering taking a leap of faith here...
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Well, for those early heavy metal bands "hardcore metal" sounds more promising than simply "heavy metal" because of all the rock bands lumped in. lunaboy wanting $600 for it is wild, though.

Arisk and Morfeo both turned out to not be acceptable here. Not sure what to call Arisk but it was simply guitar without distortion. Morfeo was closer, but was mostly symphonic with metal bits thrown in. Only about 1/3 of the demo was metal.

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I'm currently going through Ekeroth's Swedish Death Metal, specifically the band list in the second half, cross-checking stuff with MA. Made it to the F's and I already came across some entries missing from MA that may warrant further research. Once I'm done, I'll post a more complete list, but for now here's two I found particularly interesting.

Existence of demo dubious. - Cerebral Death (page 321)
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"What would it sound like if some teenage kids from a boring suburb of Stockholm wanted to make some kind of deadly version of heavy metal in the late-90's? The answer is Cerebral Death."
Not too sure what to make of that genre description, perhaps it's just heavy metal with harsher vocals? Groove/death? Something weird like Arkhamin Kirjasto? :P Ekeroth consistently uses "deadly" as "death metal-ish/-like". A demo titled To a Better World (1998) is given, but no lineup. Obviously/probably(?) not the listed band from the Netherlands. I asked Porman about them and at first he said the demo is unreleased as far as he knows, but apparently he confused them with another band. He'll ask around. Approached Drowned as well and he's never heard of them and couldn't find any info in his old tradelists either. I was unable to find anything about either the band or the demo online, except for Ekeroth's book. EDIT (11-11-2015): Porman talked to Ekeroth himself and the latter said he doesn't have the demo nor can he remember his source for the entry in the book. :( Still, I'll keep this open here in case someone has anything to contribute.


Added. Epitaph (page 342)
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From Västerås, possibly formed in 1989 and apparently neither of the two Swedish Epitaphs we have listed. Ekeroth describes it as "thrash/doom [..] some kind of doomy metal" (he also makes no attempt to hide his poor opinion of the music's quality). Drummer Johan Burman's old website calls them doom metal and you'll notice that he and two other members later also played in Miscreant and Powerage. Haven't been able to find a connection for bass player Carl "HYB" Andersson. Ekeroth gives a Demo (1990); Burman as well, but self-titled (the entry is accompanied by the note "Currently on cassette only, a re-release on CD is planned for later this year"). Weirdly, in his disco section, Johan Burman shows the same cover for this demo as the one for one version of the Blasphemy demo by Dark Abbey (some old drawing of two monks). Dark Abbey later became one of the Epitaph's on MA (from Sollentuna, Stockholm), but Ekeroth stresses not to mistake this band with the one from Västerås (and the tracklist given on Burman's site is totally different as well, not to mention that neither location nor lineup compare). The Dark Abbey cover is also pictured in Ekeroth's book (page 285), clearly attributed to the Sollentuna band. It seems pretty clear that the Västerås Epitaph existed in some form, a teenage band that may or may not have managed to circulate a demo-tape. Some pics and descriptions here and here. The email on Burman's site is dead, but I'm pretty sure I found him on Facebook and have sent him a PM. The cover thing is peculiar, but may be just him... mixing up a detail of his own band with another? Guess it's not to be ruled out.


Ekeroth's book seems pretty legit, from what I've seen/been told, but I also noticed that there are a few mistakes and discrepancies (ex. he combined Adversary and Adversery into one entry). I'm also not sure if he really distinguishes between releases and recordings.

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So I actually found someone who owns that Epitaph tape and got photos of the inlay (thanks, Death_Vomit). See here. As you can see, those two monks are indeed on the cover, which is fucking weird if you consider that another Swedish band from around the same time, that would later change name to Epitaph, also released a demo with that drawing as a cover. Since it looks like the Västerås Epitaph demo came first, maybe Dark Abbey liked the drawing so much that they used it for their demo too? uuuh, and then decided to take the name as well, while the Västerås band was still active (Burman says he and Andersson left in 1991, so it was probably active 1989-1991)? I don't know, this is really giving me pause, heh. Anyone have any theories? Or is that sort of thing nothing to write home about in the various old school demo scenes? I mean, it's not an original drawing and a reverse image search reveals it to be an older (19th century?) "stock" image, but still...

In any case, the band looks good to submit otherwise, I'm just waiting on a tape rip from Death_Vomit at this point (though he confirms the various descriptions -and quality :P- so far).
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Damn, you work quickly. But yeah, that's pretty weird. If you look closely, the Dark Abbey one is slightly cropped compared to the Epitaph's, so that adds a little to the theory that they copied it. I don't really have anything to add, though. Their logos are kinda similar, too, but I guess they're both just really typical.

I scraped some more lists:
Sword Productions (archived)
Needs research. - Anti Christian Attack
ANTI CHRISTIAN ATTACK (Swe)- "S/t" MC

Added. - Valgaldr
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VALGALDR (Bra) - “Conqueror of The Worlds” MC
this guy has a copy: http://www.metal-archives.com/users/Gravelander89



http://narqath.tripod.com/lista.htm
Needs research. - Chaotic Candelight
CHAOTIC CANDELIGHT Reh. Demo Reh.demo
Candlelight? Still no idea about the band

Needs research. - Cradle Of Jesus
CRADLE OF JESUS Having Sex With Several Succubusses…

Needs research. - Deidad
DEIDAD Volumen I Demo
DEIDAD Volumen II Demo
Might be a compilation based on the titles, this also says its a demo, though:
http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/6533132-post1.html
EDIT: I e-mailed the guy that posted the thread. I really doubt he'll remember, but gotta exhaust all leads, eh?

Needs research. - Pohjolan Ylijumala
POHJOLAN YLIJUMALA Demo Demo

Needs research. - Israel's Cold Winter
ISRAEL'S COLD WINTER Blood For Pepsi Generation Demo
ISRAEL'S COLD WINTER Flaggermusmannen Demo
Titles don't really sound metal, but who knows

Needs research. - The Prow
PROW, THE Demo Demo
might be a Voivod dub labelled incorrectly

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Finished with Swedish Death Metal, here's the list of bands not on MA, excluding Cerebral Death mentioned above. Page number in parentheses, followed by the given location and style:

Needs research. - Abominate (304) (Strömstad, "gore-grind")
- Abominate (demo, 2003)
2000's band. Considering the generic name, this is probably not the same band as the one from Uppsala we have listed. Perhaps not metal enough, Ekeroth says they should put some more death metal into their music.

Likely no VR. - Angel Goat (308) (Angered, death metal)
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Probably no releases, Ekeroth says he doesn't know if they ever even officially recorded anything. He cites two song titles regardless: "Black Mass" and "Damnation". This guy played the bass. Rest of the lineup: Miika Salmela (guitars), Juvonen (drums), A Juurika (guitars, vocals). According to Drowned, to his knowledge, they never released anything official.


Needs research. - Bloodlust (316) (Fjälkinge, death/thrash metal)
- Demo 1 (demo, 2004)
I was wondering if it was the same as Bloodlust, but was told by the latter one's ex-drummer Pontus Norman that it's probably a different band. His Bloodlust was definitely from Sotenäs, not Fjälkinge. Ekeroth lists a single (known?) member, "C Lindell". Chris Lindell? Christian Lindell? Note that the MA entry has "The Bloodlust" as a logo, but Norman implied that they were never called that (he was only with them for a short while, though, and wasn't sure). Perhaps The Bloodlust belongs to Ekeroth's band? Or a third band? Or just a naming variation/logo addition for the Sotenäs one? Also note that both bands' demos are from 2004, maybe there were really two but only one released the demo and it was mixed up with the other by Ekeroth?

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The MA band's website was still in the links on v1 and it was http://thebloodlust.info.se, so I assume that's where the "The Bloodlust" logo came. Internet Archive's images weren't saved to confirm that theory, though.

EDIT: Their myspace has "the" in a logo on a photo:
https://myspace.com/thebloodlustswe/mix ... /121587407


No sign of VR. - Compos Mentis (323)
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Absolutely no information given, Ekeroth actually asks the reader to contact him if they know anything.


No sign of VR. - Devour (334) (?, brutal death metal)
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Formed in summer 1997 by two teenagers named Fredrik (bass) and Jan. Other members are Jari S (vocals, or is this actually Jan?), Patrick (guitars, vocals, 2001-) and Jimmy (drums, 2001-). No releases given. "Brutal" might just be an adjective, dunno.


No sign of VR. - Devoured (334) (Stockholm [Hägersten], death metal)
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Formed in 1989, allegedly played a style of death metal with a lot of different stylistic influence. Ekeroth can't remember if they made any demos. Lineup: Victor (drums), Matte (vocals), Stefan (guitars, 1992-), Micke (bass, initially guitars)


Needs research. - Disenterment (335) (Mora, black/death metal)
- "Metapsychosis" (demo, 1993)
Formed in 1992, this guy played the drums. The band had previously been added by Drowned, but was deleted again because the demo remains officially unreleased and was only dubbed on tape by Shamaatae on request (no idea how often, but Drowned has a copy). Not sure if this can be considered a valid release. Also, the title may actually be Metempsychosis.

Needs research. - Euphoria (343) (Uppsala)
- Demo 1997 (demo, 1997)
It's from Uppsala and that's all he knows. Same as this one?

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Gods of Obscurity (351)
- The Abyss of Coloured Tears (demo, 1994)
Little info given and ignorance professed, but it seems pretty obvious that Ekeroth made a mistake here, as this is actually a release by a band called Gardens of Obscurity. Funnily, he lists Gardens of Obscurity as well, without mention of that demo.


Added. Harmageddon (353)
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(Uppsala, death/thrash metal/hardcore?)
- Rather Be Dead (demo, 1994)
The cover of the demo-tape is also pictured on page 288. Appeared on a sampler. Another release on Discogs, this is very likely the same band; the lineup in the book is consistent with the one on Discogs. Genre seems ambiguous, but I contacted the guy who added it and he said he's going to send me a digital rip of the EP soon.


No sign of VR. - Headless (354) (Avesta, death metal)
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No discography given. Stefan Sohlström played guitar. Rest of the lineup: Jonny Lejonberg (guitars), Leif Forsell (vocals, bass), Staffan Dickfors (drums)


Likely no VR. - Infuriation (362)
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No discography given. L-G Petrov was on vocals. Only other member given is a certain Ulf Cederlund. According to Drowned, to his knowledge, they never released anything official.


No sign of VR. - Morbid Lust (377) (Lund/Staffanstorp)
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- Rehearsal (1986)
Existed briefly in 1986, doing a few gigs and one rehearsal. The book isn't very clear about the latter, might be unreleased and/or just a recording session. Their drummer Valentin was later recruited by the Obscurity from Malmö. This guy on guitars and vocals, other lineup: Micke "Muh" Jönsson (vocals), Anders Hansson (guitars), Folkesson (bass)


Needs research. - Morgh (377) (Piteå)
- Ashes of Disgrace (demo, 1992)
Ekeroth says he's not sure when the demo was released.

No sign of VR. - Necropia (382)
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Existed from 1996 to 1998. Ekeroth doesn't think they ever released anything. I've sent a FB message to guitarist Niklas Svärd (now in Terror 2000), asking about the band. Other linuep: Riad Haddouche (vocals, bass), Kristofer Örstadius (guitars, listed as Orstadius), Jonas Gagner (drums)


Added. Redrum (Kiruna, death/thrash metal(?))
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- Murder Industry (demo, December 31st 2000)
1. When the Nightmares Comes Haunt You
2. Faith of Religion
3. Dead by Faith
4. World in Chaos and Fire
5. Experimental Desires by Death

Not mentioned directly, but through a later version, Annihilation on page 309. Ekeroth lists the demo above for Annihilation, but the cover art on MA had the name Redrum on it, as well the notes saying "First demo, very bad sound quality. By this time Annihilation were called Redrum." So I deleted it and am now wondering how and if it was released.


No releases. - Vulcania (419) (perhaps from Malmö based on connected bands)
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- Burn the Cross (rehearsal, 1984)
Allegedly "ultra-obscure" band which existed 1983-1984. Again, not too sure what "rehearsal" denotes here, perhaps no real releases. Lindhe played guitars, he's now in Obscurity from Malmö. Sent them a FB message. Other lineup: Dennis "Anti" (vocals), Ola Püschel (guitars), Kvidde (drums)
EDIT: Okay, I spoke with Lindhe and he said the rehearsal existed only on one copy and he has no idea where it is.


Needs research. - Warmonger (420) (Nynäshamm, doom/death metal)
- Warmonger (demo, 1998)
Late-90's band, described as "doom/medieval/death metal [that] sucks". Probably not the same as the listed Warmonger from Landskrona. Ulf Johansson is the only cited member.

No releases. - Zinc Organ (421) (Stockholm, "death/fusion")
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- Pleasure of Revenge (demo, 2000)
- Alive with Worms (demo, 2001)
Started in 1998. The band was blacklisted in 2013 by Doomsday, citing "no releases" as the reason, so maybe those demos are unreleased/bullshit. I've sent him a PM. Lineup: David Segerbäck (vocals), Ponta (guitars), Johan Hallander (bass), Anders Olsson (drums); past members: Jocke (guitars), Stefan (guitars), David Lichter (guitars)


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Woah, sick! I'll see if I can find anything. I'm going to steal the way you formatted this for the next posts I do in this thread.

Azmodes wrote:
Bloodlust (316) (Fjälkinge, death/thrash metal)
- Demo 1 (demo, 2004)
I was wondering if it was the same as Bloodlust, but was told by the latter one's ex-drummer Pontus Norman that it's probably a different band. His Bloodlust was definitely from Sotenäs, not Fjälkinge. Ekeroth lists a single (known?) member, "C Lindell". Chris Lindell? Christian Lindell? Note that the MA entry has "The Bloodlust" as a logo, but Norman implied that they were never called that (he was only with them for a short while, though, and wasn't sure). Perhaps The Bloodlust belongs to Ekeroth's band? Or a third band? Or just a naming variation/logo addition for the Sotenäs one? Also note that both bands' demos are from 2004, maybe there were really two but only one released the demo and it was mixed up with the other by Ekeroth?


The MA band's website was still in the links on v1 and it was http://thebloodlust.info.se, so I assume that's where the "The Bloodlust" logo came. Internet Archive's images weren't saved to confirm that theory, though.

EDIT: Their myspace has "the" in a logo on a photo:
https://myspace.com/thebloodlustswe/mix ... /121587407

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