Alright, I guess I'll update their entry a bit.

Can probably be scratched off the list. According to David Segerbäck:

Hey Azmodes, just wanted to say thanks for locking my other thread (not being sarcastic) with the list of bands, and letting me know about the pop-up for blacklisted bands. That makes going through this much easier. I'll update this post in a moment when I've weeded out those bands.

EDIT: Non-blacklisted bands below.

This list is up-to-date as of its posting. If there are bands with the same name on the site, I can assure you these are different ones. I've added the albums they appear on in parenthesis for further identification help.

About 99% of these bands come from split albums with bands that are already on the site, hopefully that helps further with identifying them.

Not Metal. - Altarium (2013 - Split Lp)


Added. - Aphorism (2014 - I)

Not Metal. - Arborist (2012 - III Doom in Bloom)
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No releases. - Bestiary (2012 - III Doom in Bloom)
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No Releases. - Cult of Linnaeus (2012 - III Doom in Bloom)
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Needs research. - Devastating Sorrow (2010 - Grief Silhouette... Serenity Shade)
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Stream-only - Divine Clarity (2014 - The Labyrinths of Cold)
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Already here. - Euthanized (2014 - Demo MMXIV)
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Added. - Gates of Irkalla (2014 - Gates of Irkalla)
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Needs research. - Lacerated (2010 - I)
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Needs research. - Mistream (2012 - Into a Fortress (В Kрепости))

Not Metal. - Mung (2006 - We Who Sleep)
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Not Metal. - Nekkral (2015 - Nekkral)
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Not Metal. - No Souls In Manchester (2010 - No Souls In Manchester)
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Added. - Northrose (2014 - Timeless Predictions of Mass Galactic Extinction)
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Not metal. - Skullflower (2010 - White Medal/Skullflower)

Not Metal. - Xanctux (2010 - Darkside Pact)[/spoiler]
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Skullflower and Botanist aren't metal. Isn't Botanist blacklisted, though? The III Doom in Bloom split has 7 bands, so it's not an acceptable release here. So, Arborist, Bestiary, and Cult of Linnaeous are out unless they have other releases.



Annihilation was added by a band member, so maybe he didn't know to submit Redrum under its own page? The band's old website was at http://annihilation.vze.com/, but it's not saved on the Internet Archive. vze.com is a redirection service, so the site's real url might be on there somewhere, but I can't find it. I went through the related bands' link sections and came up with nothing. Well, I did find a band to add.

Thank you for the new thread title, by the way. It's much, much better now. I disliked the old one but I couldn't think of a better one. I fixed the first post a bit, let me know if I can make it any better.

Yep, Botanist are blacklisted for a lack of metal riffs.

Nice OP, Halloween.

I must've misspelled Botanist's name when I was seeing if they were blacklisted, noted. I'll remove them from the list.

Skullflower just a noise band then?




Any other reason? I feel like that's a bit broad and a good amount of bands fall under that category (namely atmospheric/funeral/avant-garde).

I'm listening to them now, and they're certainly weird, and likely non-metal, but aside from 'lack of riffs', I can't really pinpoint (1. what they are, and 2) why it's not some subgenre of metal. It's tagged as avant-garde post-black.

That's a discussion for another thread. If you are wondering about the why's of a blacklisting, please post there.

Regarding Harmageddon from Uppsala, still no CD rip, but I came across this. Useful biography (they shortened their name to Harma) and even four tracks for listening! Pretty sure the first two are from their later period, some dodgy sort of groove metal, but the last two are death/thrash, so they're most probably from the demo-tape (or at least from that period, considering the differing production). Added.


Look what I found. Gothic/doom metal indeed. This seems cool to submit, if you want to.

Oh dang man, that's two (including the PM about Lisovyk). I'll submit them shortly. Thanks I have no idea how you found that.

Googled band name + "Mikael Ribeiro".

I honestly thought I did that. Submitted. Thanks again

EDIT: Also found Somber's demos on soundcloud, where was my head when I was researching these bands?

Sure thing. Thanks.

Here's another band. Maybe someone here knows more about it.

Needs research. - Forlorn (France, black metal)
Lathspell (Tape, 2014, Hypogea Maleficare)
Side Alpha:
1. Cainite
2. Cainite Part 2
3. Cainite Part 1 & 2
4. Fils De Caien
5. Cainite
6. Freeze World
7. War Spirit
8. Strange Dream
Side Omega:
9. Apocalypse With Cain
10. Warspirit
11. Alone
12. Apocalypse With Cain
13. Warspirit

This is pre-Aryos, so I don't doubt it being black metal. The discogs page however lists it as unofficial. The page is a mess, though. The owner of the label is the second contributor, Saturn156, who created the mess with vandalism and is also a known bootlegger. Aryos's facebook doesn't mention this release, either. It's probably unofficial or at least disputed, which would explain the vandalism, but might be worth looking into.

It exists at least:
https://plus.google.com/+TourdeGarde/posts/fPpMWGUgiLQ
http://www.gemm.com/store/CHEAPTHRILLS/ ... 1641871982

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I sent that user an email (address still worked!) and he confirmed the release status of the first demo (he's estimating 100-200 CD's), so I'm going to add it now. Sadly, he can't send me any pics or cover scans, he said their drummer catalogued that sort of stuff, but they haven't been in touched for years.

Needs research. - Peppermynte Gymsokk (Norway, melodic death/black/thrash metal?)
Pre-She Said Destroy, according to their MA entry, they released two demos under that name. The band confirms that they released "a couple of demos" under that name in an interview. Metalness shouldn't really be an issue here, but more details about those demos would be great.

No releases. Ferrum Noricum (Austria, pagan/black metal)

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This guy might have played in it? Google translate sucks and I don't know German:
http://www.katjuschaonline.net/matthias.php

I found some other mentions, one says something about Krems and that guy is from Krems:
http://www.schwermetall.ch/berichte/bericht123.php
http://www.darkscene.at/index.php?m=forum&i=3966
http://www.darkscene.at/index.php?m=forum&i=3707
http://www.darkscene.at/index.php?m=forum&i=3588

Ah, nice one. That band is split-up since last year, but I've contacted them nonetheless.


Yeah, seems Ferrum Noricum might be from Lower Austria rather than Styria. It's an interview with the vocalist/guitarist from Vienna black/speed metal band Ewig Frost; he mentions a concert he's co-organising and that FN are also playing there. Nothing more about them. That guy also played in Katjuscha, by the way.


These are all about a gig where they played as a support. It also confirms that they were from Krems an der Donau. That's the gig, but goddamnit it's a dead end.

But hey, already an improvement over a single Myspace page without context. I love this thread!

EDIT: Ooooh, by combining the name with the Katjuscha bass player, I was able to find this guestbook entry. It gives the sound and lineup:

The rest is just meaningless promo stuff.

I googled his full name and just Matthias, but not that one, haha. Nice find, though. I was looking through old myspace profiles of bands that their myspace was friends wiith for that.

Could try contacting Ewig Frost, too. Nino is bound to know something.

EDIT: Just got a chance to go through those links, the page for the gig is hilarious. The other bands have info but the one we are looking for is just a name, like it's sitting there mocking us.

That guestbook is also from Approxx, nothing really saved for their old website, though:
http://web.archive.org/web/200803140238 ... oxx.at.tt/

I should be in contact with Mattl shortly.


So I sent Beaten to Death a message, the ex-SSD vocalist is with them. He said he'd never heard of that absurd name and when I linked him to the interview, he said that it was just a joke. Some kind of whitewashing? Maybe, maybe not. I noticed that the interview says that they had a couple of demos under the old name, then changed it in 2003 and released Armageddon, Anyone?. The MA page lists two demos before that one, though, and if the uploaded covers are to be believed, they were released under the name SSD. I'm leaning towards it indeed being a joke.

https://web.archive.org/web/20040119021 ... graphy.htm
"She said destroy has been playing in different forms and under different names since the year 2000."

There's this, but they could be talking about the different aliases (?) they mentioned above and the line-up changes they mention in later versions of the biography. Other than that, I haven't found any other mentions of a previous name anywhere else on their old site.

So Ferrum Noricum is off. Mattl said they split up before getting a chance to do a proper demo or anything.

At least now I have peace of mind.

I'm surprised. Those tracks on myspace are really good. I would have bought a copy, haha.

But yeah, one more mystery solved. I feel the same about loving this thread. It's good having more than one head looking at something like this.

At least Katjuscha's page benefited

Not metal. - Hexagon (Austria, heavy metal/hard rock?)

House of Kerion is out, keyboards and drums. I doubt the album was released, anyway.

Added. - Gypsy (Austria, heavy metal/hard rock?)


Added. - Hardly to Touch (Austria, heavy metal/hard rock?)


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I've received the Hexagon single in digital form from Schulmeister. Sadly, it's not metal. As mentioned, the B-side is borderline at best; the A-side -evidently screaming blatant lies into our faces with its title- is poppy, bluesy rock, even softer than the B-side. Hrmpf.

Not metal. - Empower (?, ?)


Needs research. - Intire/Intyre? (?, ?)
- Flight from Reality (?, ?)
https://www.facebook.com/Knochenwerk/ph ... =3&theater

Needs research. - In Memory Of (?, ?)
- Submarine Echos (?, ?)
https://www.facebook.com/Knochenwerk/ph ... =3&theater

As you can see, these are all from the same list, a page titled "Bonemachine" on Facebook. It's by Alexander "Hugin" Wieser (ex. Uruk-Hai), Bonemachine was one of his projects (now B-Machina). I came across it after looking up info on the Austrian band Osiris (he had a copy for sale, but it's been sold ). I didn't check everything he has up, but if someone else wants to go through it, be my guest: https://www.facebook.com/Knochenwerk/ph ... tos_stream A lot is probably non-metal; electronic, ambient, industrial or folk or something (that possibility also applies to the five bands above). Additionaly, he's a bit sloppy when it comes to names and titles, so be alert.

Added. Zieg Abuser (Switzerland, death/thrash metal?)


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Maybe it's this?

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Di ... ghts/93427

It says released under their previous name, Dismal. I can't make out the line-up other than possibly Something Michael on the second line, and there was a Michael in the band. I don't know. The address also says "Wien", I think?

Ah yeah, that's probably it.

http://www.metal-district.de/md_cdsug:: ... _fire.html

So it's this band and maybe this was a promo that they changed the title of when it was released.
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Ek ... _War/19597




Kinda iffy:
https://yadi.sk/d/G1aKwX4eeZDZw
http://i.imgur.com/PQNnHzV.jpg

Line-up:
http://www.sra.at/band/21406

Also released another demo (I think):
http://www.fatal-underground.de/FU10%20 ... 0html..htm

Other mentions:
http://www.thethrashmetalguide.com/E.html
http://www.fatal-underground.de/8.htm

Nice nice, Detective DeathlessDolt. I found some more details about the Ekpyrosis album. Seems they self-released it in 2001 under that name. Then, after signing a label deal, they changed it and added two bonus tracks. I've added it as the parent entry and given After War a separate listing.

Will give Empower a listen. (why didn't I think to check SRA...?) EDIT: Yeah, doesn't sound predominantly metal, some kind of crossover thingy, heavy, but few actual riffs. The review you linked says to contact the guy for a copy, so it's public, but it also says that two of the four songs are re-recorded from the other, 3-song demo. So this one's not gonna fly for MA.

Yeah, I didn't think it was going to make it. At least the list was narrowed down a bit Here's another I've wondered about for years:

Needs research. - Dark Cove (black metal, United Kingdom)
- Dark Cove (CD/Tape?, 2000?)
1. Navigating Thee Seas of Wrath
2. Mackeral Voyage
3. Splintered Timbers
4. Dark Cove Inn
- Sunken Treasure (CD, 2001?)
1. Intro
2. Navigating Thee Seas of Wrath
3. Mackeral Voyage (Idiot Flutes)
4. Double Munsun
5. Marooned
6. Doom Has breached the Hull
7. The Killingh
8. Mad Jack Rat-Boon
9. Variations for Dog and Typewriter
10. Sunken Trunken

Website
Discography
Myspace (Samples)

I actually added this band a long time ago, one of my first submissions. It was later deleted because I listened to the sample again and was like what the fuck not metal and the fact that I thought the physical release/band was dubious. I think oneyoudontknow contacted the band and got info when he added the releases. They had a weird limitation and one was released on tape and CD. He might know more. The years and formats are from memory only. Might be 2001 and 2002.

Anyway, I later found more samples and they actually turned out to be metal. I'm not really sure if the release actually exists or not, though. I bought a copy but they never sent me it. I even asked beforehand if it was still available and I got a reply saying yes, but they never mailed it out or replied to further e-mails. Might have just been ripping a guy off 6-7 years after it was released, which is why I'm now posting it here.

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From the Encyclopaedia of Australian Heavy Metal by Brian Giffin:

Needs research. -

Can't find anything online, demo may not even meet our standards, but nothing else is listed in their short entry.

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Their Myspace? https://myspace.com/absinthebetrayed

This guy might know more: viewtopic.php?p=1663956#p1663956

This guy was the vocalist: https://www.facebook.com/KornosConcertService

This band has one of their ex-members: https://www.facebook.com/AgeofHorror

This one too, but they're split-up: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Last-Sta ... 9796605396 (physical release if you want to add it)

Added.

I was unawares of this thread. This is great.

Added. - Your Silent Avenue

Needs research. - XIII (black metal, Greece?)
- Of Hate & Blood (2005, compilation, Illegal Angel Productions, Download)
12. In the Northern Twilight
- Possible demo
The layout for the comp. says that the track is from an upcoming demo on Illegal Angel Productions. Illegal Angel's website is just barely on IA, so no info can be found there. At least the track is some nice slower-paced black metal.

Needs research. - Black Forest (black metal, Ohio, United States)
- Heidenblut (2000, Download)
1. Amidst The Fury Of Battle
2. Nordlands Saga
3. Call Of The Black Forest
4. Fatherland
5. Wotan's Might
6. Winds Of The North
Line-up:
Raven: Vocals (lead), Guitars, Keyboards, Bass, Drum programming
Darkstorm: Guitars, Vocals (backing & clean), Bass
According to this interview, they were planning a demo. The demo was added to the Russian Black Forest's page with the title, "Heidenblut (Unreleased Version)", so it might not have ever been released. The interview references photographs of the band on the demo layout, so there was at least some sort of artwork for it made.

Not metal. - Fallen (death/doom metal?, Finland)


[Updated by PaganiusI on Oct. 9th, 2018]

I've added Gypsy after checking out a track of theirs on a sampler (fsm agrees that it's acceptable) and talking to someone who owns/owned the single.