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HDS
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:21 pm 
 

HDS thanks PDS! Are we related? haha

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Shadechaser
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:41 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
Note that rough demos and singles are still (generally) not sufficient

Years ago I wrote to one of webmasters that 50 kb for album art is not enough. Thanks goodness, it's fixed now.
Years ago I disagreed here on forum that "20 minutes" rule is often broken if stuff just wants it in some particular case.
Now debut can be shorter but singles are still insufficient. And what if single is 20 minutes long (eg., some funeral doom band)?
There were much more debatable questions like issuing time considered by USA (timezone despite other world lives somehow in the other timezones), genres, writing "bandcamp" to version description and much more.
I just want to say rules are too raw here.

By the way, some other user has already submitted Noctambulist band to the queue on 2019-01-20 21:19:45, I hope it will rejected as mine one was.
Moreover I remember that once a moderator said that my submission could be accepted instead of someone's premature submission.

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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:44 am 
 

Shadechaser wrote:
Azmodes wrote:
Note that rough demos and singles are still (generally) not sufficient

Years ago I wrote to one of webmasters that 50 kb for album art is not enough. Thanks goodness, it's fixed now.
Years ago I disagreed here on forum that "20 minutes" rule is often broken if stuff just wants it in some particular case.
Now debut can be shorter but singles are still insufficient. And what if single is 20 minutes long (eg., some funeral doom band)?
There were much more debatable questions like issuing time considered by USA (timezone despite other world lives somehow in the other timezones), genres, writing "bandcamp" to version description and much more.
I just want to say rules are too raw here.

By the way, some other user has already submitted Noctambulist band to the queue on 2019-01-20 21:19:45, I hope it will rejected as mine one was.
Moreover I remember that once a moderator said that my submission could be accepted instead of someone's premature submission.



I've had submissions rejected because of "too rough" even when it's a full length of up to almost 35 minutes when it was just digital.

It's still just guidelines. Every submission is just case to case. I wouldn't take the guidelines as concrete, because they aren't.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:05 am 
 

Noctambulist have a full-length album, which was released today, so the do not have only the single: https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/N ... ion/757380

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Shadechaser
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:05 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
Noctambulist have a full-length album, which was released today, so the do not have only the single: https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/N ... ion/757380

If you've meant "...so theY do not..." than:
1. thanks for the link, it is my submission and thus I know it :)
2. precedent was that I've tried to submit this band yesterday when the band had only a single issued in 2017 (although album was on web already).

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:29 am 
 

Oh, I see now, that it was your submission. But still I do not understand, why you would like to submit bands, which have only digital singles out. I would personally never submit a band with only a digital one trackerfor download, since I would consider it a disgrace for the site. A digital single is just like a teaser, almost nothing. If a band would release a single track, which is a 20 minute long one, it think it would be up to debate, if it should not be considered an ep. But single of this band in question is just over five minutes long. The written rules are just general, so they cannot cover everything, so there will be still some debatable cases. But genrally ,digital singles only are not enough and I personally strongly support this current rule. The band was today accepted correctly, but what's the point of the debate ? Not much...

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frodin
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:12 pm 
 

frodin wrote:
frodin wrote:
PaganiusI wrote:
Hello,
I was trying to register my band Endolith (Norway), but I get a warning saying it is blacklisted, and I wonder why?

Sincerely, Frode Hofsøy
http://www.endolith.no

Blacklisted in 2013 for being Industrial +Harsh vocals. Anything new?

Hi,
We released our debut full-length Voyager in 2016, which No Clean Singing reviewed as "fantastic" and "metal" here: https://www.nocleansinging.com/2017/07/ ... -endolith/

available as streaming and download at all major streaming services and downloadable on iTunes/Amazon etc:
https://open.spotify.com/artist/45nOk734XEGy9i2SRycMQ6
https://itunes.apple.com/no/album/voyager/1185093579
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=ntt_srch_d ... ch-type=ss

We also did a video for the song Old as Cancer from Voyager: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QsBJpIkkyo
And for the song Ichthys from our coming album Chicxulub - The Fossil Record: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILi24Wqw9KA
We also have a 7" which we only sell at our live shows, picture here: https://www.facebook.com/endolith/photo ... =3&theater

I hope this will suffice.

Best regards, Frode, Endolith



Sorry to nag about this, but I still have not got a (second) reply. We released our second album Friday January 18th on vinyl and digital:
https://itunes.apple.com/ca/album/chicx ... Row3qPmxfU
https://open.spotify.com/album/08zTsKGM ... myC1siQ2EY
https://bigdipper.no/vinyl/metal_hardro ... Sq-HkUu5B8
And a video to one of the songs, Bloodfiends: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wdxdSn-sbY

If it isn't metal, then I don't know what it is.

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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:21 pm 
 

frodin wrote:
Sorry to nag about this, but I still have not got a (second) reply. We released our second album Friday January 18th on vinyl and digital:
https://itunes.apple.com/ca/album/chicx ... Row3qPmxfU
https://open.spotify.com/album/08zTsKGM ... myC1siQ2EY
https://bigdipper.no/vinyl/metal_hardro ... Sq-HkUu5B8
And a video to one of the songs, Bloodfiends: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wdxdSn-sbY

If it isn't metal, then I don't know what it is.

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VigilantRabbit
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:49 pm 
 

Received a message from PaganiusI that a band submission was rejected due to "needing samples of the actual music and proof for a valid release to judge the band." The band only has a Myspace page when they were active for their official page, tracks are visible but for some reason won't play on the site after double- checking, relegating a site/platform issue even though valid material is present. Not sure how to provide that material when it was their only page/segue for the music at the time, bandcamp and other sites now popular either didn't exist or weren't well known at the time said bands were active. Both bands played multiple live shows and have demo material as aforementioned.
Please advise, just trying to get appropriate information added per Diamhea's original request (RIP).

band rejections of reference:
Nihil Rising (Black Metal, WI)
In Time of the Plague (Blackened Metalcore, WI)

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NUTstriker
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:00 pm 
 

Hello! In the reasons that my band was rejected was mentioned that i had to provide photos of the demo (Hegemony - The reign over the fallen). Now that i can provide them, i realised my band is blacklisted. Can you please do something? I have the photos of the tape

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NUTstriker
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:57 pm 
 

I'm uploading the demo on bandcamp too, to include it on the additional notes when i submit it in your site. Could you please put me out of the blacklist in order to do it?

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:00 am 
 

VigilantRabbit wrote:
Received a message from PaganiusI that a band submission was rejected due to "needing samples of the actual music and proof for a valid release to judge the band." The band only has a Myspace page when they were active for their official page, tracks are visible but for some reason won't play on the site after double- checking, relegating a site/platform issue even though valid material is present. Not sure how to provide that material when it was their only page/segue for the music at the time, bandcamp and other sites now popular either didn't exist or weren't well known at the time said bands were active. Both bands played multiple live shows and have demo material as aforementioned.
Please advise, just trying to get appropriate information added per Diamhea's original request (RIP).

band rejections of reference:
Nihil Rising (Black Metal, WI)
In Time of the Plague (Blackened Metalcore, WI)

For proving that a band is metal, when actual samples aren't available, sometimes we are also willing to take a trustworthy third-party description of the music, i.e. usually a review. For Nihil Rising at least, this might suffice. If the other band is indeed metalcore, though, we definitely need actual samples to determine that it is more metal than hardcore. If neither can be provided, the bands aren't acceptable. You might try posting them here, though.

Secondly, and this was left ambiguous in your post, do both bands have a valid release?

NUTstriker wrote:
Hello! In the reasons that my band was rejected was mentioned that i had to provide photos of the demo (Hegemony - The reign over the fallen). Now that i can provide them, i realised my band is blacklisted. Can you please do something? I have the photos of the tape

Upload the photos to an image hosting site such as imgur and post them here.
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NUTstriker
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:26 am 
 

https://imgur.com/lKoZcgb
https://imgur.com/VfDCDks
https://imgur.com/cvYKF2u

and here's Bandcamp link: https://hegemonygr.bandcamp.com/releases

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:29 am 
 

Okay, taken off the blacklist.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:56 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
VigilantRabbit wrote:
Received a message from PaganiusI that a band submission was rejected due to "needing samples of the actual music and proof for a valid release to judge the band." The band only has a Myspace page when they were active for their official page, tracks are visible but for some reason won't play on the site after double- checking, relegating a site/platform issue even though valid material is present. Not sure how to provide that material when it was their only page/segue for the music at the time, bandcamp and other sites now popular either didn't exist or weren't well known at the time said bands were active. Both bands played multiple live shows and have demo material as aforementioned.
Please advise, just trying to get appropriate information added per Diamhea's original request (RIP).

band rejections of reference:
Nihil Rising (Black Metal, WI)
In Time of the Plague (Blackened Metalcore, WI)

For proving that a band is metal, when actual samples aren't available, sometimes we are also willing to take a trustworthy third-party description of the music, i.e. usually a review. For Nihil Rising at least, this might suffice. If the other band is indeed metalcore, though, we definitely need actual samples to determine that it is more metal than hardcore. If neither can be provided, the bands aren't acceptable. You might try posting them here, though.

Secondly, and this was left ambiguous in your post, do both bands have a valid release?

NUTstriker wrote:
Hello! In the reasons that my band was rejected was mentioned that i had to provide photos of the demo (Hegemony - The reign over the fallen). Now that i can provide them, i realised my band is blacklisted. Can you please do something? I have the photos of the tape

Upload the photos to an image hosting site such as imgur and post them here.

As you have mentioned one detailed review, culd the Czech band Lament be accepted based on the reviw in Rockpalace webzine after all? The The review is quite detailed and the style is clearly described as "classic heavy metal with a lot of solos " there. The album is out of print and impossible to find even here or on auction servers. https://www.rockpalace.cz/rockpalace-re ... nosti-1999

The review is actually the guitarist of Alžběta, so he would certainly recognize classic heavy metal, when he plays it himself with his band.
https://www.babelfish.de/dict?query=Lam ... uto&dst=de

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VigilantRabbit
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:55 am 
 

VigilantRabbit wrote:
Received a message from PaganiusI that a band submission was rejected due to "needing samples of the actual music and proof for a valid release to judge the band." The band only has a Myspace page when they were active for their official page, tracks are visible but for some reason won't play on the site after double- checking, relegating a site/platform issue even though valid material is present. Not sure how to provide that material when it was their only page/segue for the music at the time, bandcamp and other sites now popular either didn't exist or weren't well known at the time said bands were active. Both bands played multiple live shows and have demo material as aforementioned.
Please advise, just trying to get appropriate information added per Diamhea's original request (RIP).

band rejections of reference:
Nihil Rising (Black Metal, WI)
In Time of the Plague (Blackened Metalcore, WI)


Azmodes wrote:
For proving that a band is metal, when actual samples aren't available, sometimes we are also willing to take a trustworthy third-party description of the music, i.e. usually a review. For Nihil Rising at least, this might suffice. If the other band is indeed metalcore, though, we definitely need actual samples to determine that it is more metal than hardcore. If neither can be provided, the bands aren't acceptable. You might try posting them here, though.

Secondly, and this was left ambiguous in your post, do both bands have a valid release?


Thanks for the reply, both bands were underground and didn't release a CD/CS/Vinyl through any label, tracks were put up digitally in full demos on Myspace as mentioned for the time they were active, and Nihil Rising (The BM band) would sparsely put the tracks on a simple burned CD for people who wanted it, unsure if any still exist though, still trying to contact members of that band for more info presently. The Metalcore/ Melodic Death Metal band ITOTP had a digital demo too and would send tracks from the demo to people as they wanted them for free but it never made it to a larger limelight- merch was printed and sold though (tshirts and patches). I'm working with the founder of that band presently to try and get either the tracks working to listen on the aforementioned site or a different segue for the adequate context, will try to submit the band again at the appropriate time when those facets of information are obtainable.
I will certainly see if the other link/forum page can provide more help as well, it was a strange transitional time for the internet and bands in that manner. Thanks again.

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Carlo Cranmer
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:25 pm 
 

Hiya,

Just been rejected for not being metal enough.
Link Below just in case as there are non metalish songs as we are open to new ideas etc...
Please see link below for your convenience.

There are two bands rejected.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha8pUrZ8QQQ - From Sheep to Wolves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wsB9lNCYvY - Kyoto Jacket

Just need more details as to what qualifies as metal and should that be the case, a little help as to what the genre really is as I do not wish to be misleading and am not very good at genres.

I did read the post as well not sure if I understood some parts of it to be honest.

Kindest Regards
Carlo Cranmer

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oogboog
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:21 am 
 

How come Winter Dynasty from China's blacklisted? Their new album seems fine to me.

https://winterdynasty.bandcamp.com/albu ... -to-winter

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Saxonslaught
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:57 am 
 

Warfare Noise (Sääksjärvi, Finland) was rejected because first demo (rehearsal) was not metal enough and second demo was not available in physical format yet.

Now the second demo tape is available from the band and also from Northern Heritage during next week.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BtBcsx4FFu1/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkNs5dr1INY

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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:19 pm 
 

oogboog wrote:
How come Winter Dynasty from China's blacklisted? Their new album seems fine to me.

Blacklisted in September 2018 for being predominantly ambient and for being bedroom-y. But this one sounds fine so far. Whitelisted.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:24 am 
 

My submission of the band Jesushed was rejected with the reason, that it is Lehard rock with Lemmy style vocals. I strongly disagree and present their third ep from 2018 as a proof . The riffing is clearly in the crossover thrash style imo, with some heavy metal style leads. Did Helvede, who rejected the band, aactually listen to all thre of their albums.: The first has some acoustic songs, but the second one has oonly one ballad and the third has none. In any case, I please ask for another opinion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5wRK06D2K4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mthwTgJREU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o3qII_ns7s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-lglmn9C5A

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:17 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
As you have mentioned one detailed review, culd the Czech band Lament be accepted based on the reviw in Rockpalace webzine after all? The The review is quite detailed and the style is clearly described as "classic heavy metal with a lot of solos " there. The album is out of print and impossible to find even here or on auction servers. https://www.rockpalace.cz/rockpalace-re ... nosti-1999

The review is actually the guitarist of Alžběta, so he would certainly recognize classic heavy metal, when he plays it himself with his band.
https://www.babelfish.de/dict?query=Lam ... uto&dst=de

Perhaps, but I have two main reservations here: a) Personally, I'm more comfortable with the review/description exception when it's genres with, if you will, less wiggle room. Meaning that something referred to as heavy metal can be anything from AOR to pop punk, while with death or black metal things are in my experience less ambiguous. Additional musical details (and/or a second review) would of course lessen this concern. b) I wouldn't mind our one Czech-speaking mod going over the machine translations (unless you are willing to do a full translation yourself).

Carlo Cranmer wrote:
Hiya,

Just been rejected for not being metal enough.
Link Below just in case as there are non metalish songs as we are open to new ideas etc...
Please see link below for your convenience.

There are two bands rejected.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha8pUrZ8QQQ - From Sheep to Wolves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wsB9lNCYvY - Kyoto Jacket

Just need more details as to what qualifies as metal and should that be the case, a little help as to what the genre really is as I do not wish to be misleading and am not very good at genres.

I did read the post as well not sure if I understood some parts of it to be honest.

Kindest Regards
Carlo Cranmer

Sorry, these are so obviously not metal that I don't know what to tell you other than read the rules, listen and learn. Which parts of the opening post were unclear to you?

Saxonslaught wrote:
Warfare Noise (Sääksjärvi, Finland) was rejected because first demo (rehearsal) was not metal enough and second demo was not available in physical format yet.

Now the second demo tape is available from the band and also from Northern Heritage during next week.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BtBcsx4FFu1/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkNs5dr1INY

Please simply resubmitted with those links included.

Witcher wrote:
My submission of the band Jesushed was rejected with the reason, that it is Lehard rock with Lemmy style vocals. I strongly disagree and present their third ep from 2018 as a proof . The riffing is clearly in the crossover thrash style imo, with some heavy metal style leads. Did Helvede, who rejected the band, aactually listen to all thre of their albums.: The first has some acoustic songs, but the second one has oonly one ballad and the third has none. In any case, I please ask for another opinion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5wRK06D2K4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mthwTgJREU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o3qII_ns7s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-lglmn9C5A

hmmmm agreed, I'll talk to Helvede.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:57 am 
 

thanks for your answers, Azmodes.

Regarding lament: I may try to translate the whole review into English, but it wil take some time, I will try to do it later today or tomorrow. I tried to find some samples or aanothr review the whole last year, but with zero results. the album was actually once downloadable from the review page and there is stil a sentence , which refrs to it, but the link was removed, presumably dure to copyright reasons. I may present now already two things, which I found on the net: The keyboard player on the album was ˇPetr Czendlik, who has later played with Koka and other metal bands. the album is mentioned in his Bandzone.cz profile: https://bandzone.cz/fan/terranas?at=info
https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/ ... dlik/69780
Second guitarist was Martin" buchta" cupek: https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/ ... pek/139681
Famous czech folk singer Jaromír Nohavica has written the lyrics for the last song on the album, the album is mentioned in his discography on his official site:
http://www.nohavica.cz/_pl/diskografie/ ... _pisne.htm

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CosmicDruid
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:13 pm 
 

Erlen Meyer (FR) Blacklist Appeal - January 1, 2019

Hello! The sophomore LP by French Blackened Sludge Metal/Post-Hardcore band Erlen Meyer was just released today by Argonauta records. I believe the band's sludge metal content is much more apparent than their post-hardcore influence, even on their previous album that they were apparently blacklisted for.

I won't argue if you choose to continue your blacklist, but I request you skim through their two releases and reconsider as their style is a strong cross between Celeste (FR) and early Isis (US) who are both deemed metal.

1st Album: https://shelsmusic.bandcamp.com/album/erlen-meyer

New Album: http://www.hardforce.fr/actu/27422/erlen-meyer-sang-et-or-album-premiere

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perzine
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:56 pm 
 

Just bumping the below post that I made a week ago. Also, I made a mistake with the band description - they're from Castlemaine (Victoria, Australia), not Melbourne.

perzine wrote:
Can Dead (Melbourne) be whitelisted on the basis of the higher metalness quotient on the latest EP?

https://weemptyrooms.bandcamp.com/album ... -hog-dance

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Milos
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 3:44 am 
 

Why Grudom is not listed on the site?

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 3:56 am 
 

The translated review of Lament "Reje pekelných mocností" 1999:

The heavy metal band Lament was founded by today's Citron guitarist Jura Šperl, who was responsiblein the band for guitars and vocals. The line-up was completed by guitarist and backing vocalist "Buchta" (Martin "Buchta" cupek-later member of the band of Miloš Dodo doležal), The drums were recorded by Josef "Šaman" Balazs,the keyboards were played by Petr "Špendlík" Czendlik, the bass was recorded by Pavel "Piškot " Piskorz and two songs were sung by Víťa Koncval. The album opens with Satanův bestiář. There is a lot of devils not only on the album cover, but also in the lyrics. The lyrics were written by Jura Šperl. The lyrics of the closing song Peterburg were written by Jarek Nohavica. His poetics fit well the driving music with a folklore touch.It is a really interesting connection of words and music.
Lament is no hellish rampage , as the song titles may suggest. All hell breaks loose only in the lyrical departement Musically it is classic heavy metal with a lot of guitar solos. The title track Reje pekelných mocností is interwoven with a march of guitars. The second song Rozlomí also does not branch out from the heavy metal rank. One of the highlights of the album is Rebel a satan with interesting lyrics and a classic heavy metalfill in the middle. It is followed by Zachraňte vojína Ryana (Saving Private Ryan), which is inspired by the movie of the same name. . The intro part belongs to keyboards and an accoustic guitar, then Šperl's guitar solo will sound. The lyrics are really well done. They are easy to remember,Just after a few listens it will become a hit song.
The band Lament has done a good job. It is a pity, that the band has not left more recordings. And for Citron fans is certainly the older work of Jura Šperl a "required reading".
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Jesushed restored.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:43 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
Jesushed restored.

Many thanks. What do you say on the topic of the Lament review, Azmodes?

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CosmicDruid wrote:
Erlen Meyer (FR) Blacklist Appeal - January 1, 2019

Hello! The sophomore LP by French Blackened Sludge Metal/Post-Hardcore band Erlen Meyer was just released today by Argonauta records. I believe the band's sludge metal content is much more apparent than their post-hardcore influence, even on their previous album that they were apparently blacklisted for.

I won't argue if you choose to continue your blacklist, but I request you skim through their two releases and reconsider as their style is a strong cross between Celeste (FR) and early Isis (US) who are both deemed metal.

1st Album: https://shelsmusic.bandcamp.com/album/erlen-meyer

New Album: http://www.hardforce.fr/actu/27422/erlen-meyer-sang-et-or-album-premiere

Thanks!

I think the blacklisting still applies. Seems more post-hardcore than metal.

perzine wrote:
Can Dead (Melbourne) be whitelisted on the basis of the higher metalness quotient on the latest EP?

https://weemptyrooms.bandcamp.com/album ... -hog-dance

Doesn't sound conclusive either way. Also, I dislike the whole "is it acceptable now? how about now? and now?" thing whenever a blacklisted band drops a new borderline single or EP, citing things like metal quotients and percentages. Better to report back when there's a clearcut full-length or at least a string of shorter releases that show a consistent trend.

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Why Grudom is not listed on the site?

"Goofy horror rock/dark ambient" (from 2013)

@Lament: Sorry, but we (MutantClannfear, who speaks Czech, and me) just don't feel this is sufficient grounds for including the band. The text is pretty sparse on details as well. I've seen too many reviews consistently name-drop heavy metal only for things to turn out to be far more ambiguous.
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Hi!

The band Nexcoyotl form Mexico was rejected for their first demo (maybe is most ambient than metal and i understand) but, the new full lenght is most Pagan Black metal than ambient, you can listen the new album sample on the bandcamp also, the album is avalable in cd format.

https://onsp.bandcamp.com/album/madre-norte

If you need listen some full track i can upload a track on YouTube.

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Azmodes, I've heard the songs "This is Why We Ride", "All Love is Lost", "No Lives Matter", "Talk Shit, Get Shot", "Black Hoodie" and "Civil War", which songs should I listen to that are hardcore and rock about the last Body Count album?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 6:25 am 
 

AncientAssault wrote:
Hi!

The band Nexcoyotl form Mexico was rejected for their first demo (maybe is most ambient than metal and i understand) but, the new full lenght is most Pagan Black metal than ambient, you can listen the new album sample on the bandcamp also, the album is avalable in cd format.

https://onsp.bandcamp.com/album/madre-norte

If you need listen some full track i can upload a track on YouTube.

can we have proof of the CD version?
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droneriot wrote:
Azmodes, I've heard the songs "This is Why We Ride", "All Love is Lost", "No Lives Matter", "Talk Shit, Get Shot", "Black Hoodie" and "Civil War", which songs should I listen to that are hardcore and rock about the last Body Count album?

You know what? I just listened to it again and it's not as unacceptable as I remember it being. Perhaps the vocals threw me off back in 2017. Even so, I'd say "The Ski Mask Way", "No Lives Matter", "Bloodlust", "Here I Go Again" and "Black Hoodie" are probably the ones I'd categorize as rap rock/rapcore/whatever you want to call it. "All Love is Lost" also sounds pretty beatdown-y. "Civil War" is -instrumentally- at least some sort of groovy metal/hardcore that turns into thrash at the end and indeed there's a good amount of that to be found ("Walk with Me" goes into outright death/thrash territory). And yet, especially as the album progresses, seems to me we're getting closer to crossover/rapcore stuff like RAtM, Dog Eat Dog or Beastie Boys.

"Talk Shit, Get Shot" is from another album, by the way.

Divisive to be sure, but as Zodi put it somewhere else
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rapcore with some leftover groove/thrash metal riffs. It's hard and pretty consistently guitar-oriented, but definitely more -core and rap-rock than metal, to me.

which seems accurate to me. Considering this is presented as their most metal album to date, it's not exactly doing favours for the big picture.
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I'm waiting responses of my request.

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sunsetlight wrote:
I'm waiting responses of my request.

So there's one long ambient single and one black metal single. In other words, no valid, predominantly metal release yet.
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Yes sir, here physical proof. Greetings!

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 5009696718

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 4:38 pm 
 

I don't understand why PaganiusI rejected my recent submission. The band in question is Dark Mill from Cuba. PaganiusI wrote ""Digital file. Doesn't really proof anything was printed. Needs proof for an acutal CD release."

However, I explicitly included in my note to the moderators:
"-Here is a pic of the CD back cover (proof of physical release): https://www.facebook.com/yodelyn19/phot ... =3&theater

-Here is a Soundcloud page which has their music...I'd say it's obvious that they're a metal band :) :https://soundcloud.com/yodelyn19"

Of course, the second link will take you to a Soundcloud that has the demo's digital files...however, the first link will take you to a photo posted directly on the band's Facebook page of the back cover of the CD (hence why I said proof of physical release). If this isn't enough, then here are some more links to photos of the physical release (I would have included these as well but I assumed it would just be redundant):
-BOOKLET: https://www.facebook.com/yodelyn19/phot ... =3&theater
-BOOKLET2: https://www.facebook.com/yodelyn19/phot ... =3&theater
-BOOKLET3: https://www.facebook.com/yodelyn19/phot ... =3&theater
-BOOKLET4: https://www.facebook.com/yodelyn19/phot ... =3&theater

Now, if the legitimacy of these photos is suspect then that's another argument, but according to PaganiusI's statement above my submission was rejected based on the premise that a digital file wasn't good enough to warrant inclusion into the database. If these Facebook photos aren't good enough either then that's fair, but something tells me that perhaps PaganiusI misread my submission notes :)
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:27 pm 
 

cweed wrote:
I don't understand why PaganiusI rejected my recent submission. (...) if the legitimacy of these photos is suspect then that's another argument, but according to PaganiusI's statement above my submission was rejected based on the premise that a digital file wasn't good enough to warrant inclusion into the database. If these Facebook photos aren't good enough either then that's fair, but something tells me that perhaps PaganiusI misread my submission notes :)


I -without a doubt- would have acted the same way as Pag did, cweed.
That isn't an actual picture of the final release, but instead it's supposedly the back cover of it, which doesn't guarantee/proves that a physical album was actually released.
We prefer a photo of the final product than the design of the front/back/etc. artwork (which can vary, and often does).

Thanks.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 6:02 pm 
 

Midnight Rider wrote:
cweed wrote:
I don't understand why PaganiusI rejected my recent submission. (...) if the legitimacy of these photos is suspect then that's another argument, but according to PaganiusI's statement above my submission was rejected based on the premise that a digital file wasn't good enough to warrant inclusion into the database. If these Facebook photos aren't good enough either then that's fair, but something tells me that perhaps PaganiusI misread my submission notes :)


I -without a doubt- would have acted the same way as Pag did, cweed.
That isn't an actual picture of the final release, but instead it's supposedly the back cover of it, which doesn't guarantee/proves that a physical album was actually released.
We prefer a photo of the final product than the design of the front/back/etc. artwork (which can vary, and often does).

Thanks.


Right, and that's fine! I completely understand. All I'm saying is, if that was the real issue (that it's supposedly the back cover of it and not proof that it was a physical album) then it should have been mentioned in the reason for why it was rejected (as opposed to saying it was because of the digital files only and not addressing this other major issue). Otherwise it's unclear. Does that make sense?
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