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Storm of the Light's Bane
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:14 pm 
 

Christian Teegardin wrote:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Flesh/3540439810

This band should be removed from the Metal Archives for having no proper riffs... All it is... is endless note-less slams and pig-grunting. Have a listen to hear what I mean.

This is perfectly acceptable bdm... It's just pretty damn bad.
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~Guest 566514
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:21 pm 
 

Storm of the Light's Bane wrote:
Christian Teegardin wrote:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Flesh/3540439810

This band should be removed from the Metal Archives for having no proper riffs... All it is... is endless note-less slams and pig-grunting. Have a listen to hear what I mean.

This is perfectly acceptable bdm... It's just pretty damn bad.


Quite agree on the bad part as I'd easily give it a 0%. 95% of non-metal beatdown hardcore is better than that. I simply complained about it since I didn't hear any note differences. In a weird way, it reminds me of shitty war metal where it's just a wall of noise and grunts backed by aimless blast beats.

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Erosion of Humanity
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:57 pm 
 

Uhhh what? Try new speakers or something, even on my phone this sounds like standard bdm. Pretty decent too.
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~Guest 566514
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:49 pm 
 

Erosion of Humanity wrote:
Uhhh what? Try new speakers or something, even on my phone this sounds like standard bdm. Pretty decent too.


I've listened to many other BDM bands and I can perfectly discern the notes, e.g. Analepsy. That band is kickass. I don't know why this one sounds different to me. I mean, sometimes I hear very subtle changes, but it's all under a wall of monotony so to say.

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MutantClannfear
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:57 pm 
 

This has very clearly audible riffs to me.

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GuardAwakening
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Location: United States
PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:57 am 
 

Since slam bands are now having "slam" added to their genre, this should be one of them that get the same treatment.
It might even avoid future complaints like this.

Christian Teegardin wrote:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Flesh/3540439810

This band should be removed from the Metal Archives for having no proper riffs... All it is... is endless note-less slams and pig-grunting. Have a listen to hear what I mean.


LOL "endless note-less slams"... you DO realize that playing a slam REQUIRES notes to be played.. right? Holy fuck.

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Pessipath
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Location: United States
PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:09 pm 
 

Rush is on this site and that's still really funny

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Helvede
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Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2003 6:28 pm
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:42 am 
 

Removed Svavehl - a misspelled entry of Svavelh, which is already here.

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Midnight Rider
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Posts: 400
PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:03 pm 
 

Removed Planet of Zeus. Stoner Rock!

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joecubbie
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Location: United States
PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 5:08 pm 
 

Why was Burning Rain accepted? Great band, but with the exception of a few metal songs here and there, hard rock in the vein of Whitesnake and Lynch Mob...
Burning Rain (1999): https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=O ... k_o5mfjpuE
Pleasure to Burn (2000): https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=O ... MTw7Hd89uY
Epic Obsession (2013): https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=O ... 5CkSmpSyDU
Face the Music (2019): https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=O ... YI-YMjYZCo

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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:27 pm 
 

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ar ... 3540452722

Spotify-only releases are now acceptable?
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Derigin
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:55 pm 
 

Contacted Doomsday to clarify. Waiting on response.

Digital releases must be available as standalone downloads.
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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:20 pm 
 

Derigin wrote:
Contacted Doomsday to clarify. Waiting on response.

Digital releases must be available as standalone downloads.


Thank you, Derigin. Just want to make sure everyone's on the same page. :)
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Doomsday
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:33 pm 
 

https://www.amazon.com/Armagedon/dp/B07 ... =8-1-fkmr0

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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:51 pm 
 

Doomsday wrote:
https://www.amazon.com/Armagedon/dp/B07QMZFJPW/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?keywords=music%3Aarmagedon+-+armageddon&qid=1555379861&s=gateway&sr=8-1-fkmr0


Thanks. This helps me fill in the gaps missing on the page here.
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Krister Jensen
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:02 pm 
 

Removed Hugo Flores (Portugal) - predominantly progressive rock
https://hugoflores.bandcamp.com/album/atlantis

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MutantClannfear
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Location: United States
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:21 pm 
 

Deleted Wold (Canada/United States) - blackened noise with heavy emphasis on the "noise" part. After a thorough evaluation, it feels safe to say that none of their releases are predominantly structured around metal riffs, or guitars, for that matter.

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0th
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Location: China
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:07 pm 
 

Removed Dragoon (USA). According to the band member, the album is just makeshift, tracks will be changed from time to time. Besides, several mods think the quality sounds too rough.

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ᴎostalgiʞK
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Joined: Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:27 pm
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Location: Argentina, Brazil
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:33 pm 
 

Storm of the Light's Bane wrote:
Christian Teegardin wrote:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Flesh/3540439810

This band should be removed from the Metal Archives for having no proper riffs... All it is... is endless note-less slams and pig-grunting. Have a listen to hear what I mean.

This is perfectly acceptable bdm... It's just pretty damn bad.


I laughed I have to say..

I think Christian found this band strange because Flesh tuning is too freaking low.. Even 20 times lower that the standard Slam metal bands...

I got a question here, I saw that Lacuna Coil was accepted based on "In a Reverie" and "Unleashed Memories", iihhh, my question is.. Really? I do not meant to be rude or something, almost I always agree with staff decisions, but.. Why? This is more poppy stuff than everything else, it is not near even from Post Hardcore or something light thing... Again, my question is 100% real, not meant to troll or something, I guess I will never understand this "band"...

Cheers! :)
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Lord_Of_Diamonds
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:24 pm 
 

I'm surprised that I didn't discover this earlier, but exactly what album of Helmet was considered metal enough to allow them to be on the site?
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How can something be riffless slam when a slam, by definition, is a metal riff?

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Storm of the Light's Bane
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:04 pm 
 

Lord_Of_Diamonds wrote:
I'm surprised that I didn't discover this earlier, but exactly what album of Helmet was considered metal enough to allow them to be on the site?

I'm not too familiar with the band, but I believe they were accepted mainly based on Meantime.

ᴎostalgiʞK wrote:
I got a question here, I saw that Lacuna Coil was accepted based on "In a Reverie" and "Unleashed Memories", iihhh, my question is.. Really? I do not meant to be rude or something, almost I always agree with staff decisions, but.. Why? This is more poppy stuff than everything else, it is not near even from Post Hardcore or something light thing... Again, my question is 100% real, not meant to troll or something, I guess I will never understand this "band"...

Cheers! :)

Well, they're gothic metal/rock albums.
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I'm sure he would have pushed strongly for them to be included. I'm guessing there was a fight among the mods over whether to include them, and it ended with Metantoine being imprisoned in Napero's Finnish ice wizard tower.

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Lord_Of_Diamonds
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:51 pm 
 

Storm of the Light's Bane wrote:
I'm not too familiar with the band, but I believe they were accepted mainly based on Meantime.

Weird. That release never struck me as being particularly metal; more alt-rock with noise rock and hardcore punk influences.

I suppose it's more of a surprise thing, as alt-metal bands generally get kicked off this site, in my experience with it.
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Storm of the Light's Bane
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 3:28 pm 
 

Deleted Sendero Inoxerable from Mexico, same band as Sendero Inexorable from Chile.
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I'm sure he would have pushed strongly for them to be included. I'm guessing there was a fight among the mods over whether to include them, and it ended with Metantoine being imprisoned in Napero's Finnish ice wizard tower.

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Rompestromper
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Location: Netherlands
PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:29 pm 
 

not sure if this band should be accepted, price of the album 999.99
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/S ... ted/772943
https://swellingrepulsion.bandcamp.com/releases

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0th
Suicidal Angel

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Location: China
PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:02 pm 
 

We just noticed this. Swelling Repulsion (USA) now removed.

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Rompestromper
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 5:46 am 
 

for some reason the bandcamp page is removed as well, odd case if you ask me.

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~Guest 566514
Mallcore Kid

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:42 am 
 

Why was Audrey Fall accepted? The band sounds amazing, from what I heard of their song 'Petrina,' but it's just over-driven post-rock. Not metal in any sort or fashion. Perhaps the other songs were metal enough?

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Storm of the Light's Bane
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:39 am 
 

Please don't ask why a band is listed after only listening to a single song. One song usually doesn't give you a full representation of a band's sound.

Their 2014 full-length seems to be acceptable post-metal/rock for the most part.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:45 am 
 

Full albums by Audrey Fall: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj5ppBuoMp8
https://audreyfall.bandcamp.com/album/mitau

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:31 pm 
 

Storm of the Light's Bane wrote:
Please don't ask why a band is listed after only listening to a single song. One song usually doesn't give you a full representation of a band's sound.

Their 2014 full-length seems to be acceptable post-metal/rock for the most part.


Will give the entire album a jam sometime today.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:36 pm 
 

Storm of the Light's Bane wrote:
Please don't ask why a band is listed after only listening to a single song. One song usually doesn't give you a full representation of a band's sound.

Their 2014 full-length seems to be acceptable post-metal/rock for the most part.


From a quick gander at the other songs, it seems like Petrina is an outlier in being a post-rock track. The first track is definitely metal. Taking a few skims towards the middle of the album, I even found a post-black metal passage which surprised me. Priboi is also really metal. Sorry for the mis-judgement. :lol:

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:20 am 
 

@Klaagzang: It took a bit longer than planned, but I took care of all those bands you brought up:

Zwarte Plaag & Sulmog: Deleted.
Corozain & Nevelheim: Went with the split solution.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:02 pm 
 

Deleted Richard Andersson. No valid original material; not really a band as such but a compilation of his various other projects.
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Krister Jensen
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:43 pm 
 

Removed:
The Johansson Brothers (Sweden). Hard rock.
The only album is now listed on the Johansson page. Not that significant name change and basically the same musicians.

Looking-Glass-Self (Germany). Prog rock/acoustic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO2uDvfrHEA

Val'Paraiso (Germany) Prog rock

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ᴎostalgiʞK
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:14 pm 
 

Hi there people, I reviewed this constipation and I knew I was reviewing a mallcore band, but what I didn’t realize at that time is that I was reviewing a mallcore band in Metallum, so here is my question:

Why this band got accepted? Did they offered to the mod who accepted a house in Iceland and wine with talking polar bears?

This is not even Melodeath (as it is cataloged on MA and also in their bandcamp’s page) they putted death metal and groove metal as tags what the fök? Maybe it’s just me that can’t find the metalness on this… I don’t know, maybe time changes, maybe I’m evolving as a level 81 elitist.

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Krister Jensen
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:16 am 
 

Removed Coracko (Germany) - hard rock.

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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:29 am 
 

ᴎostalgiʞK wrote:
Hi there people, I reviewed this constipation and I knew I was reviewing a mallcore band, but what I didn’t realize at that time is that I was reviewing a mallcore band in Metallum, so here is my question:

Why this band got accepted? Did they offered to the mod who accepted a house in Iceland and wine with talking polar bears?

This is not even Melodeath (as it is cataloged on MA and also in their bandcamp’s page) they putted death metal and groove metal as tags what the fök? Maybe it’s just me that can’t find the metalness on this… I don’t know, maybe time changes, maybe I’m evolving as a level 81 elitist.

Cheers

....it very much is a mix of Melo Death and Metalcore. Not sure what you listened to to make it sound like Mallcore ;)
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ᴎostalgiʞK
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:49 am 
 

Hmmmmmm I was thinking that mallcore is the name of non-metal -corish bands, my bad. But I insist Pag that this band lacks every point to be melodeath, I seriously can't hear any death metal element.. Rod Stewart is even more metal than this guys.
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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:49 am 
 

ᴎostalgiʞK wrote:
Hmmmmmm I was thinking that mallcore is the name of non-metal -corish bands, my bad. But I insist Pag that this band lacks every point to be melodeath, I seriously can't hear any death metal element.. Rod Stewart is even more metal than this guys.

Mallcore = Nu Metal
And three mods agree that this is MeloDeath/metalcore.
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ᴎostalgiʞK
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:55 am 
 

Ohhhhh I got it now the mallcore thing... Wow

Well Pag... I'll never understand these bands, but guess I will have to deal with it.

Thank for your quickly response :)
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